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Constant & Ignition Power On Empty Fuse Slots
In this video I show how I was able to locate constant and ignition switched power on empty fuse slots in a 2022 Subaru Outback.
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2022 Outback Dashcam Install
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Installation of a front and rear dash cam in a 2022 Subaru Outback Limited (w/ Moonroof). The dash cam that was installed has a rear camera that connects to the main front camera for power and to save video. 0:00 Tools used 0:49 Front dash cam install 7:02 Electrical hookup locations 8:26 Rear dash cam install 11:36 Side airbag considerations 12:04 Wrap up the electrical 13:37 Finished install ...
Helped a lot thanks
First of all, thank you so much for this video! I was confused at first, but i think i understand everything u discussed. U were very clear and concise. Question: for those empty slots providing 12V, can any type of fuse be used, depending on the device i am working with (7.5A, 20A, etc.)? I ask because if i want to hard wire something, i am not sure which empty slot to use. I just know i only want ignition power, not constant power.
I believe any of those empty slots can work with any fuse value, within a reasonable range. There is a max limit to the amperage that the fuse panel, the wiring supporting the fuse panel and the wiring for your added item can handle. I would be cautious adding too many high draw items 20A+ (and don't ever try to run something like a subwoofer directly off that panel) but a couple of lower draw items of 3A - 10A are ok. I'm sure if there is information on the specs for the panel and the wiring used to feed the panel from the manufacturer, so you could calculate if higher draw items would be supported and how many you could add but for just a couple of small draw items it isn't really necessary to do that deep of a dive.
@@jakesdiy197 thanks for the info, to tell u the truth, i was looking for the opposite: low draw items like led lights. I just didn’t want to blow a fuse by accidentally putting it in an unsuitable port. If u cant tell, i am beginner at this and perhaps do not have the best understanding how this works.
what setting you use on the multimeter to test?
That's great but the one question to ask is what the amp value behind the panel that feed that circuit ...for light stuff you'll be ok, but if you want to supply a sub panel you need 30A and i don't think any of these taps will handle more than 10A....newer vehicles TIPMs have sensitive solid state boards in the PDP making issues worse.
I’m assuming the fuse taps you used had two slots? If so in which slot you installed your fuse? Since you not tapping to an existing one, figured you only need one.
The slot away from the prongs is for your new circuit. The slot closer to the prongs is for the existing circuit. For this example, the slot closer is empty since it was an empty slot in the fuse box.
Thank!
Thanks for saving me hours of wasted time. Cheers
What about pros and cons of using a memory saver when disconnecting the battery?
Not quite sure that it is constant power.Once you lock the car by remote it will switch of after few minutes? You may re check this? I may be wrong?but....
When you reconnected the battery, did you have to recalibrate windows or annything else?
Thanks for sharing where to find a constant 12volt on the fuse panel. Sure wish we knew more about the fuse location. Looks like location #14, wonder gauge of wire compared to the other 12V supplies that are 20 amp fused. Would be great to know if we could reliable jumper the 14 to the 12v socket for constant power for the accessory plug.
What was the tool you used for snaking the cable through the trunk?
I used a wire fish tape / cable snake. Pretty sure this is the one I used. www.amazon.com/Gardner-Bender-EFT-15-Electrical-Fishing/dp/B074B3ZWMH?th=1
@@jakesdiy197 Thanks so much for the reply!
Some of the slots in my fuse box aren't working i.e. fuzes that lit up with a test pen from other slots won't light up when placed in other slots. Is that normal?
Car manufacturers don't always populate all the fuse slots in a panel. So it's not unexpected that you might not get any power to some empty fuse slots. I think things like different trim packages can effect if they wire up all the slots or not since it saves them a couple of pennies in wire for each one they don't have to wire. With those add-a-fuse taps you can just piggyback on one of the existing working fuses, I just found an empty working slot in this specific car (2022 Subaru Outback Limited) that I could use instead of piggybacking an existing fuse.
Just came here to say your walk through was super helpful for my 2024 Outback / A139 Pro. I think the only difference was the the rear view mirror on my trim didn't have the same paneling. Also pro tip for others, open the trunk before disconnecting the power...
Hi - we have a 2019 Forester and I'm getting to ready to install a webcam as well. Here is a link to the (2019) manual with diagrams of what area of the windshield to avoid so as not to interfere with EyeSight. techinfo.subaru.com/stis/doc/ownerManual/MSA5B1914A_STIS.pdf
Thanks for the video.
My fuse box has no exposed metal and i cant use a prong to reach them sadly
That can happen, lots of manufacturers won't populate the unused fuse slots. It saves them a few cents to not wire anything on the back side of the panel if their design doesn't require the extra fuse slots. Have done several vehicles like that, when I do those I will use an Add-a-circuit fuse tap on one of the populated slots for something like a cigarette lighter (cig) or power (pwr) accessory. I have also done accessory installs where I added a secondary fuse block (www.amazon.com/Blue-Sea-Systems-Blade-12-Circuit/dp/B01BV1MS1K?th=1) that comes directly off the battery.
Just installed a BlackVue DR900x-2ch plus in my 2020 Outback using these fuse locations and they worked. For some reason I couldn't get the camera to start up on the hardwire, but after starting it up on the cigarette lighter power cable, then (quickly) switching over to the hardwire it continues to run. Maybe it requires higher voltage at startup?
Cigarette lighter adapter is also called a 12 volt socket. They run at 12 volts, 50 or 20 amps regardless. Your battery is also 12 volts. Your question does not make sense as asked, I believe you meant amperage?
Thank you so much for posting this video- used it to find a constant hot on my fuse box for aftermarket radio install.
Thanks Jake, you the man! I just installed a Vantrue S1 front/rear using this video into my 22 Outback, I much appreciate the time you took to make this video.
How’s the vantrue camera is the app working okay
I was just gifted a vantrue pro4 for my 2020 outback xt. Where in your outback did you mount your front facing camera? Thanks in advance.
Thank you, I just finished installing a dash cam on my 21 Outback and this video made it easy. 👍🏻
Is there a way to connect power from the fuse box to a couple unused fuse slots, to effectively add one or two 10-amp switched fuse outlets?
I can’t believe it’s almost 2023 and cars don’t hear USB ports behind the rear view mirror for dash cams.
Have you made your 12volt ports always on? I’m trying to figure out how to do that. I’m thinking that always on port with the fuse adapter to the cold side of the 12v ports?
"cold" ??
Clean installation, thanks😊
hello I already tested my fuse Box and I found it two empty slot, when the car if off with 12.2 volt and another one when the car is on 14.3 volt , which one should be use in each case ..thank you
The constant power (when the car is off with 12.2 volts) slots I only use for things that I always want to have powered, like if you wanted to add a USB charger that you don't have to start the car to power. I typically use switched power (only shows voltage when the car is ON) for most accessory installs as it avoids problems with drawing down the battery while the car is off. When the car is on, the alternator will recharge the battery so you don't have to worry about parasitic draws on the battery that might draw down the voltage of the battery if you use the constant power slots. Hopefully that makes sense.
You basically said the same thing two different ways. If you tested a fuse with the car off and it showed 12.2 volts, that is standard where your battery should be without the load of your engine. 14.3 volts is a regular reading with the engine on. If you turned the engine off that reading would drop to 12.X volts. So, your question cannot be answered the way you phrased it. There is no problem with the details you gave, nor is there a difference in the operation of either scenario.
in the engin fuse box is there a a slot like an accessory that I can use?
The engine fuse box probably won't have empty slots like I used in this video, but you can use the same fuse taps to piggy-back on an already populated fuse. If there are empty slots, a lot of the time the manufacturer doesn't put leads (wires) to the empty slots so they aren't actually hooked up. I would look for a lower amp fused slot, like 5 - 10 amps as those are typically more accessory type things and not critical stuff that will prevent the car from working right if you have a bad fuse tap or something that effects the already populated fuse.
hello good video, can I hire you for doing that job in my Subaru Impreza, jajajaj., very instructive video. and also why did you choose VIOFO dash cam instead another brand do think that's better than another one?
I chose the Viofo cam based on a previous one that I had bought several years ago that was still working well. When I bought that first dash cam I researched a lot on forums and came up with a good idea of what was a good value for performance cam. I'm not really tied to any specific brand. I've installed several of the A119/A129 duo cameras and all of them work without any problems so far. I would suggest looking at wiki on r/dashcam on reddit (www.reddit.com/r/Dashcam/wiki/index/) which will have up to date recommendations on cameras.
Thank you!
Thanks for the video. Did you put one fuse the blue one ? And your left the other slot empty of on the fuse tap. Right ?
Yep, for those fuse slots that are originally empty you only use 1 fuse in the fuse tap.
@@jakesdiy197 thanks I got it installed.. the only thing the camera turns off saying it reached the low voltage cut off which I have it set at the lowest possible 11.8 V. When I test the fuse, I get 12.2 V.. do you have any idea why it’s turning off ?
@@alive2990because you left your car on in the accessory position without starting the engine for too long, and your battery discharged below your cutoff limit. It showed you 12 volts when you tested it because either you started or jumped the car since then.
Thanks! Needed some visuals from back seat area to the hatchback. I ran my wires along the bottom of the door sills and followed the big bundle of wires that went from the front to back under the step mouldings, which was super easy then back up to the rear of the passenger door area.
Awesome, I tried the bottom of the door sill route on the next install I did but the wires ran a little short (like 6 inches short) so I had to pull them out and install in the headliner like I did on this one. I do like the bottom door sill install better, since it doesn't mess with getting in the way of airbags.
Thanks for posting, mine is a UK model, and we have an extra camera behind the mirror. Also the bolts in the roof, are not easy to access, so chickened out and put the camera next to the RHS eyesight camera. All the panels and roof linings were OK but the grab handels over the rear door defeated me but managed to tuck the wires underneath the airbags.Notched the rear plastic panel in the back door. It wouldn't close when I re connected the battery. Pulled it closed, it locked, switch ignition off and on again and all is well. Your video was really helpful, I owe you a pint or two!
Great video, thank you! I'll be watching it multiple times before attempting to install my new dash cam on my '22 Outback. Quick question: The mounting location on your windshield - still no issues with EyeSight mounting it right below the rear view mirror mount? Also, have you had any issues with the auto high beam feature since mounting the camera there? I'm worried about where the car's sensors are for the auto high beam feature, which is something I use. Thanks in advance!
This is my Outback. No issues with camera placement affecting eyesight.
Great video it helped me install the 3 cameras. Wasn’t as hard as I thought it took about 1.5 hours. Thanks
Fuse choices at 7:45
If you disconnect the battery wouldn't that create problems for the cars computer system?
Not in my experience (which isn't really worth much). The car's computer managed to keep all the settings through the battery disconnect. Once I hooked the battery back up everything was as we had setup on that car. It probably has a smaller backup battery for the radio/computer or stores the settings in non-volatile memory.
thank you very much for your video. thank you with your help.
Jake, thank-you so much for your video. I also have a 2022 Subaru Outback Limited and would not have had the nerve to do this install myself on a new car without watching your video many times. Everything from the listing of the tools needed to identifying the proper fuse locations was very helpful. Thanks.
Jake, Thanks for the great video. I also have a 2022 Outback. I have one question, does the brake light above the rear camera have any affect on the picture quality?
Sorry it took so long to reply... The brake light does not cause any problems with the picture in the day and night videos on this install.
@@jakesdiy197 Thanks, it works for me.....
Awesome video. This helped me get my Thinkware F200 Pro front/rear dashcam installed on my new 2022 Outback Onyx XT, hardwired to an external Thinkware battery to provide power during parking mode. I do have a question though. How were you able to tell the fuse ratings of the unused fuse slots? Like, I don't understand how you knew from the fuse diagram that the bottom right was ACC and the other one was constant power, since the fuse diagram shows only shows a line through those slots. For my setup, I hardwired using an external battery supply into the bottom right ACC like you did. Everything was good for about a month, but the last 2 days, I've gone out to start my car and the CAR battery was dead and needed to be jumped, which suggests that power is still getting pulled from my car battery during parking mode :(. I'm wondering if I'm using the wrong fuse slot...
I used a multi-meter (DC voltage setting) to detect if the empty fuse slots were constant power or switched with the ignition. With the car off, I put the meter's black probe on a grounding location and then just probed both sides of each empty fuse slot with the red probe to see if it registered ~12 volts. Then I did the same with the ignition on. That should allow you to note which of those slots show no voltage when the car is off and which are constant. I'll have another video pretty soon that just focuses on checking those fuses with a multi-meter.
@@jakesdiy197 Awesome, thanks!
I did a quick walkthrough of how I checked for ACC (ignition switched) and Battery+ (constant power). You can find that here th-cam.com/video/h5O0yf9y00U/w-d-xo.html Hope that helps
Awesome video! Got my dash cam installed today by following your guide. Thanks!
Fantastic video! Thanks for taking the time. I'm wondering about the rear camera. Are you still happy with the location? Is it in the way when you look through the rear view mirror being dead center? Is there another location you would have preferred? Thanks!
That location in the center seems to be pretty good. The camera is mostly out of the way, I don't notice it when looking in the rearview mirror. I suppose I could mount it down low on the rear window, but then I think I'd notice it.
Fantastic! Thank you for showing how to remove the trim! Great attention to detail, especially the part about avoiding the airbags. I wonder, does your rear red light cast interference on the backup camera when that light is on?
I just looked at some night time footage from the rear camera and there wasn't any interference or problems with the exposure or contrast when the brake light was on. There is some red light that is cast on the street and a little reflection of red light on some of the car body that is in the frame, but I think that is a good thing since it shows that your brake light was working if someone rear ends you.
I installed on my 2020 outback.. I just hooked up the yellow to an empty constant fuse slot and red to an accessory empty fuse slot.. seems to work...
Really appreciate the install for the eyesight cameras. Can you please comment on the type/model of the add a fuse connector you used?
I've added a parts list to the video description. I had a kit with various size fuse taps, but for this Outback I needed the low profile mini fuses (LP-Mini).
Great video. Do you have any advice on how to remove the eyesight cover? I saw the tabs in your video, but I’m not sure in what direction I should be pushing/pulling.
I'll check on this and make a better video of just removing the eyesight cover. I'll link that here once it is available.
@@jakesdiy197 Have you been able to do this video? Thanks!
If you don’t require the always on of connecting to fuse box just mount it and run the wire in the headliner and under the weatherstripping on the passenger side down to glovebox. My 2023 has a cigarette plug in the box so I just use that and you literally can’t see any of the power wire except for the short distance to the headliner from the camera. I leave it plugged in and the camera turns on as soon as I start the car.
is taking apart the eyesight housing necessary or can you work around it?
In this car I could not slip the cables between the eyesight housing and the windshield above the sensor, the housing was too tight to the glass. Maybe other cars will have more room depending on the fit of the plastics and windshield from the factory. I think you could run the cable without removing that eyesight housing by taping the cables to the windshield as high as possible in front of the sensor, it looks like that might avoid the sensor. The housing was pretty easy to take down once I figured out where all the screws and plastic tabs were. The hardest part was getting over the fear of taking apart a new car and screwing something up. Hopefully I showed where those screws and tabs are so you don't have to pry and poke around like I did to find them.
I just slipped it behind the plastics without pulling the Eye Sight covers.