Idk but if I agree with you on the quality part you seem to be splitting hairs, both are awesome bikes there’s a give-and-take on both but if I were to choose one it would be the Honda
Yamaha has more torque and low end. It's faster off the start than the Honda. The Honda has better top end. It's slightly faster than the Yamaha at higher speeds.
I'll do a update soon. I'm not the best channel at posting videos. I'm a busy person with many things going in my life and I don't make money off my channel. Thanks for viewing!
@jocoloco1320 That's a hard question to answer because they're both great bikes. I think the better handling bike is the Honda and it's more fun to ride. The better quality built bike is the Yamaha and oil changes are easier. The Yamaha has better low end which means it's faster off the start than the Honda. The Honda has better top end which means it's slightly faster than the Yamaha at higher speeds. You can't go wrong with either bike. I have aftermarket exhausts with full headers on both bikes now and the Yamaha sounds better than the Honda. I'm glad to have them both.
Yes I do have both of them and yes I have done some modifications on them. I know my channel isn't the best on posting TH-cam videos because I'm not that kind of channel, but I will be doing a update video on both these bikes with the modifications.
Hard to say. It’s personal preference. The Yamaha is quicker off the start and the Honda has a higher top speed. The Yamaha sounds better than the Honda. The Honda is more fun to ride and it shifts better than the Yamaha. Overall fit and finish of the Yamaha is higher quality than the Honda. Hope this helps.
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im sure Yamaha plastics will look like sh.t in 10 years ! yama plastics fades quicker must be cheaper mix in it! i had 15 yl rancher atv and same year Yamaha atv yamahas plastics did look like shit to be honest and more in complicated in service . I have 2005 crf230f right now i bought from original owner, bike is 17 yl but look likes new ! i love it !
I’ve had both bikes. They are both rock solid reliable. I like the Honda seat better. In the end you can’t go wrong with either one. My son rode the hell out of the Trr and it is still going strong!
I went with the klx230 but really any size air cooled 230 is a great bike. Simple, light on maintenance and easy to own, perfect for fun trail rides. Mines street legal and I go everywhere on it. I don't care for living with fuel injection though. I'd rather have a carb but that's just personal preference
not exactly sure if you are still replying to these comments but right now i am 5’4 and a half and 114 pounds. i want to get a dirtbike next summer. how tall should somebody be to ride a 230?
It all depends on what you are comfortable riding on. When I was younger I started riding directly on a full size 250 2 stroke because that’s all my friend had for me to ride. It was way over sized for a 12 year old, but I made it work anyway. I’d say you’d be fine riding on a 230 as they sit much lower than a full size race bike and the 230 will have plenty of power for someone 114 pounds.
You’ll love the bike. I recommend rejetting the carb, big gun aftermarket exhaust with full header and a K&N air filter ASAP. You won’t have to use the choke anymore on a cold start.
What am I looking for as a beginner rider buying her first dirt bike? I’ve done my research and both of these models have come up a lot and very similar. I’m 5’9 155 pounds Thanks
At your height you can definitely start on one of these bikes, but if you have no experience with working a clutch and gear shifting then a crf150f would be your best option as it would be safer to learn on. If you have a experienced rider to teach you the basics of riding then you’re going to be happier with a 230cc because this really is the right sized bike for your height. These bikes for my size are underpowered, but I’ve been riding all my life and these bikes are just trail cruisers for me. You being a beginner and lightweight these bikes will be a monster for you and they will pull you up big hill climbs and do about 60mph sixth gear pinned. Anymore questions feel free to ask.
@@northamericanproductions Awesome very helpful advice - I almost was considering the CRF250R 2008 because it was on sale in my area or a WR250f but read both weren’t ideal for a beginner is this true? thank you so much you’ve really helped me narrow down my choice. I’m from New Zealand and only could find one used crf230 that was around the same price as a new TTR230. So might be leaning towards the Yamaha.
@@fastfoxxx88 Yes this is true. The Crf250r is a motocross bike and the wr250f is a detuned race bike designed for trail riding. Both of those bikes are going to have more power than a ttr230. Both those bikes are liquid cooled vs an air cooled 230cc. That means more components on the bikes. The 230cc will have plenty of power for a beginner and is far more reliable than a liquid cooled bike. That being said the ttr230 is carbureted and both bikes you mentioned are electronic fuel injection. You want to make sure whatever you buy has a kickstand and electric start. There’s nothing more demoralizing to a beginner rider than sitting there in a remote location trying to manually kickstart the engine over. Note that race bikes don’t have a kickstand either, which means on the trail you’ll be leaning the bike up against a fixed object like a large rock. A kickstand is a nice luxury to have while trail riding. The ttr230 is going to have less maintenance than a liquid cooled race bike. Air cooled bikes are built like tanks and will last a lifetime if properly taken care of. I hope I’ve answered your questions. Greetings from the USA 🇺🇸
I like them both the same and gave my girlfriend the Yamaha. They both have their differences but I like them both equally. The Yamaha has better low end and the Honda has better top end.
Just bought a crf230f second hand an upgrade on mine crf150f so thats my choice as had buddies have both and the crf230f takes way more abuse and less repairs have been done on the honda
Thanks! I'm in the market for one of these for my son. Leaning towards the Yamaha for sure. Honda is good as you said.. but Yamaha overall can't be beat. My experience! If you asked me bout trucks ..I wouldn't hesitate to say Ford trucks! From a new Ranger to new F350 etc. I have a '20 Raptor 700R-SE & love it.. been riding 35yrs+. Appreciate ur simple & thorough review . Thanks! - NW Ohio.
Thank you for your comment. If I only bought one bike it would be the Yamaha. Hands down better quality bike. Also the Yamaha has wider grips for adults with large hands. I have average midsize hands and the Honda grips are a tad bit narrow. I wish I had more time to talk about other key points, but my channel at this point is only allowed 15 minute videos. Maybe I’ll do a update video in the future. -East Wisconsin
you probably already got a bike. but a great bike that i just got like 3 days ago is a 2019 CRF 250f. it is a super nice and powerful but not to powerful trail bike. i am a pretty small 13 year old and i fit on it very good. it’s an amazing bike
This fucking guy says the yamaha is more quality because of polished shiny motor. I got half way through and shut it off. After he said he only rode them on pavement but knows which one maneuvers better? You're 32 so you need a to simmer down and cruise safely on trails? Good lord.....what a clown. Shiny=quality, less power and less "maneuverability " on...... pavement that is
I love the TTRs. I have a TTR225. Over 10 years now. They NEVER EVER STOP RUNNING. I also have a YTM225DX. Same engine and they are reliable. My Buddy has a XR200 my TTR225 is a bit faster straight out but the XR handles like a dream. Either bike is a great Pick
The outboard is still running great. I made a mistake and ran aground, but this was my fault. I was full throttle and hit a rock shelf so I had to replace the lower unit. No real mechanical issues with the etec that was fault of its own just my own mistake.
@@northamericanproductions thats good, I'm considering buying a 2017 model today but keep reading horror stories about ecm going bad and injectors going bad and you have to have computer soft ware to program them to the motor. But then again alot of people say they lovem.
Cody Stanfield It’s definitely an engine you have to take to the dealer to be serviced because they are the only ones who have the software. You won’t be able to fix the motor yourself. Hope this helps.
The seat is way better on the Honda because it has a gripper seat while the ttr230 doesn’t have a gripper seat it is slick as butter and ive ridden both a 2017 crf230f and a 2019 ttr230
i’ve had these exact bikes for upwards of 3 years now, both 2007 both completely stock, and I can say with full confidence that the CRF is the better bike 150%. The TTR is meaner sounding, it is quicker off the start, and it’s easier to pop wheelies up with, but the honda is just so much better in every way. the honda feels lighter, springier, and quicker, is waaaaay more reliable and is just so much nicer to ride. the top speed of the honda is also unofficially a lot higher. i’ve had to wrench on my TTR probably 30 times more than i have to mess with my honda. they’re both great bikes, but if you’re on the fence about getting a ttr or a crf, and you stumble upon this video and scroll into these comments, I’ve been riding for 8 years and I can say with full confidence that you should get the CRF.
I will start off by saying these are both great bikes and highly reliable. Yamaha’s are just as reliable as Honda’s and there is a high probability that you just bought a lemon because you’ve only been riding eight years and you’ve wrenched on it 30 times now. The ttr is just as bulletproof as the crf.
@@northamericanproductions all trail bikes are pretty near indestructible but at least from personal experience, the ttr takes more work than the honda and the honda is a lot easier to wrench on
What's the max speed you've got the TTR at now?
@@d3290s Last time I checked, 64-65mph.
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Which bike has the best potential for engine mods ? High compression big bore , cams etc ? The Honda .
Idk but if I agree with you on the quality part you seem to be splitting hairs, both are awesome bikes there’s a give-and-take on both but if I were to choose one it would be the Honda
For years I’ve always been drawn to Yamaha for the quality and reliability.
the gearbox n motor block internals hard to beat in honda but yama maybe susp
I do know Yamaha likes the ttr geared low I wonder if it’s a power difference or gear difference? Interested if anyone knows
Yamaha has more torque and low end. It's faster off the start than the Honda. The Honda has better top end. It's slightly faster than the Yamaha at higher speeds.
Love to see an update.
I'll do a update soon. I'm not the best channel at posting videos. I'm a busy person with many things going in my life and I don't make money off my channel. Thanks for viewing!
@@northamericanproductions very nice thanks. Quick question, which would you pick? 🍺
@jocoloco1320 That's a hard question to answer because they're both great bikes. I think the better handling bike is the Honda and it's more fun to ride. The better quality built bike is the Yamaha and oil changes are easier. The Yamaha has better low end which means it's faster off the start than the Honda. The Honda has better top end which means it's slightly faster than the Yamaha at higher speeds. You can't go wrong with either bike. I have aftermarket exhausts with full headers on both bikes now and the Yamaha sounds better than the Honda. I'm glad to have them both.
@@northamericanproductions nice, thanks again. Getting ready to snag one or the other.
@@jocoloco1320 Awesome. You'll have fun on these bikes. They max out at about 65mph sixth gear pinned.
Finish dont make it better brother. Honda is a better bike. Period
Always good to have a opinion.
Honda is better
Dang, u missed out on the Crf 250f. That thing is a big upgrade from the 230
No the crf250f was out when I got these bikes. I wanted a carbureted bike.
That's your opinion. I have owned both brands . the Honda is better and will last longer.
4 stroke are a joke 2 stroke are much more fun than these gutless 4 strokes.
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Do you still have both bikes? Did you mod them?
Yes I do have both of them and yes I have done some modifications on them. I know my channel isn't the best on posting TH-cam videos because I'm not that kind of channel, but I will be doing a update video on both these bikes with the modifications.
so which would you say is better
Hard to say. It’s personal preference. The Yamaha is quicker off the start and the Honda has a higher top speed. The Yamaha sounds better than the Honda. The Honda is more fun to ride and it shifts better than the Yamaha. Overall fit and finish of the Yamaha is higher quality than the Honda. Hope this helps.
How much did you pay for the ttr230
4500
Ttr
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Very nice crf 230
Too bad no spedo or odo. I kind of missed it in the video but does the honda have a key? I'm kind of annoyed the yammy has no key
The Honda has a key and I clocked the Yamaha at 64mph.
im sure Yamaha plastics will look like sh.t in 10 years ! yama plastics fades quicker must be cheaper mix in it! i had 15 yl rancher atv and same year Yamaha atv yamahas plastics did look like shit to be honest and more in complicated in service . I have 2005 crf230f right now i bought from original owner, bike is 17 yl but look likes new ! i love it !
Ttr is way better imo. I’ve got both as well. Ttr wheelies and stays strait unlike the crf. Ttr is faster and easily as bulletproof
They have the Honda 250f now, that's what I'm looking at
Update video? Great review!
Thank you. I know I’m not the most polished reviewer/channel, but I only give honest information and my honest opinion.
I’ve had both bikes. They are both rock solid reliable. I like the Honda seat better. In the end you can’t go wrong with either one. My son rode the hell out of the Trr and it is still going strong!
In your opinion which one made more power
@@Tain950 The Honda has more torque and slightly faster, but the Yamaha is quicker off the start.
I went with the klx230 but really any size air cooled 230 is a great bike. Simple, light on maintenance and easy to own, perfect for fun trail rides. Mines street legal and I go everywhere on it. I don't care for living with fuel injection though. I'd rather have a carb but that's just personal preference
Isn’t it the only 230 trail bike that’s fuel injected?
not exactly sure if you are still replying to these comments but right now i am 5’4 and a half and 114 pounds. i want to get a dirtbike next summer. how tall should somebody be to ride a 230?
It all depends on what you are comfortable riding on. When I was younger I started riding directly on a full size 250 2 stroke because that’s all my friend had for me to ride. It was way over sized for a 12 year old, but I made it work anyway. I’d say you’d be fine riding on a 230 as they sit much lower than a full size race bike and the 230 will have plenty of power for someone 114 pounds.
@@northamericanproductions Update i’m going to get a crf230 sunday and i’m 5’6 now
@@owenbucknell5654 Congratulations. You should be fine on a 230.
@@northamericanproductions Thanks!
@@owenbucknell5654 Have fun!!!
Thanks for the video, I'm in between both.
You’re welcome. They are both great bikes. It just matters what your preferences are.
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Just brought a 2021 ttr230 because the dealer was sold out of crf250fs and I honestly can say I’m happy with my ttr
You’ll love the bike. I recommend rejetting the carb, big gun aftermarket exhaust with full header and a K&N air filter ASAP. You won’t have to use the choke anymore on a cold start.
What am I looking for as a beginner rider buying her first dirt bike? I’ve done my research and both of these models have come up a lot and very similar. I’m 5’9 155 pounds Thanks
At your height you can definitely start on one of these bikes, but if you have no experience with working a clutch and gear shifting then a crf150f would be your best option as it would be safer to learn on. If you have a experienced rider to teach you the basics of riding then you’re going to be happier with a 230cc because this really is the right sized bike for your height. These bikes for my size are underpowered, but I’ve been riding all my life and these bikes are just trail cruisers for me. You being a beginner and lightweight these bikes will be a monster for you and they will pull you up big hill climbs and do about 60mph sixth gear pinned. Anymore questions feel free to ask.
@@northamericanproductions Awesome very helpful advice - I almost was considering the CRF250R 2008 because it was on sale in my area or a WR250f but read both weren’t ideal for a beginner is this true? thank you so much you’ve really helped me narrow down my choice. I’m from New Zealand and only could find one used crf230 that was around the same price as a new TTR230. So might be leaning towards the Yamaha.
@@fastfoxxx88 Yes this is true. The Crf250r is a motocross bike and the wr250f is a detuned race bike designed for trail riding. Both of those bikes are going to have more power than a ttr230. Both those bikes are liquid cooled vs an air cooled 230cc. That means more components on the bikes. The 230cc will have plenty of power for a beginner and is far more reliable than a liquid cooled bike. That being said the ttr230 is carbureted and both bikes you mentioned are electronic fuel injection. You want to make sure whatever you buy has a kickstand and electric start. There’s nothing more demoralizing to a beginner rider than sitting there in a remote location trying to manually kickstart the engine over. Note that race bikes don’t have a kickstand either, which means on the trail you’ll be leaning the bike up against a fixed object like a large rock. A kickstand is a nice luxury to have while trail riding. The ttr230 is going to have less maintenance than a liquid cooled race bike. Air cooled bikes are built like tanks and will last a lifetime if properly taken care of. I hope I’ve answered your questions. Greetings from the USA 🇺🇸
Dude just say that u like Yamaha better
I like them both the same and gave my girlfriend the Yamaha. They both have their differences but I like them both equally. The Yamaha has better low end and the Honda has better top end.
Just bought a crf230f second hand an upgrade on mine crf150f so thats my choice as had buddies have both and the crf230f takes way more abuse and less repairs have been done on the honda
Wow. These are both beautiful bikes!
Beautiful bikes bro...Hard choice to choose from... I'll take them both 😄
Thanks. That’s why I bought both.
@@northamericanproductions it's been a year, any preference to one or the other?
@@lf3skillz921 They’re both great bikes, but I will say the Honda shifts a lot cleaner. The Yamaha sounds better.
Thanks! I'm in the market for one of these for my son. Leaning towards the Yamaha for sure. Honda is good as you said.. but Yamaha overall can't be beat. My experience! If you asked me bout trucks ..I wouldn't hesitate to say Ford trucks! From a new Ranger to new F350 etc. I have a '20 Raptor 700R-SE & love it.. been riding 35yrs+. Appreciate ur simple & thorough review . Thanks! - NW Ohio.
Thank you for your comment. If I only bought one bike it would be the Yamaha. Hands down better quality bike. Also the Yamaha has wider grips for adults with large hands. I have average midsize hands and the Honda grips are a tad bit narrow. I wish I had more time to talk about other key points, but my channel at this point is only allowed 15 minute videos. Maybe I’ll do a update video in the future. -East Wisconsin
you probably already got a bike. but a great bike that i just got like 3 days ago is a 2019 CRF 250f. it is a super nice and powerful but not to powerful trail bike. i am a pretty small 13 year old and i fit on it very good. it’s an amazing bike
you just like the color blue 😅
This fucking guy says the yamaha is more quality because of polished shiny motor. I got half way through and shut it off. After he said he only rode them on pavement but knows which one maneuvers better? You're 32 so you need a to simmer down and cruise safely on trails? Good lord.....what a clown. Shiny=quality, less power and less "maneuverability " on...... pavement that is
KLX 230r is the best of all the 230s
what dose the finish have to do with the quality of the bike?
Nothing. It has nothing to do with it.
Take the governor out the Yamaha will go faster
Honda better
I love the TTRs. I have a TTR225. Over 10 years now. They NEVER EVER STOP RUNNING. I also have a YTM225DX. Same engine and they are reliable. My Buddy has a XR200 my TTR225 is a bit faster straight out but the XR handles like a dream. Either bike is a great Pick
I have an XR200 and had a TTR225. The TTR225 was faster, but one heavy pig of a bike. Much prefer the XR200 for its nimbleness.
I don't know about the honda but on the Yamaha you can put a kick start
Still running good? Any problems so far?
The outboard is still running great. I made a mistake and ran aground, but this was my fault. I was full throttle and hit a rock shelf so I had to replace the lower unit. No real mechanical issues with the etec that was fault of its own just my own mistake.
@@northamericanproductions thats good, I'm considering buying a 2017 model today but keep reading horror stories about ecm going bad and injectors going bad and you have to have computer soft ware to program them to the motor. But then again alot of people say they lovem.
Cody Stanfield It’s definitely an engine you have to take to the dealer to be serviced because they are the only ones who have the software. You won’t be able to fix the motor yourself. Hope this helps.
The seat is way better on the Honda because it has a gripper seat while the ttr230 doesn’t have a gripper seat it is slick as butter and ive ridden both a 2017 crf230f and a 2019 ttr230
have ttr engines changed
i’ve had these exact bikes for upwards of 3 years now, both 2007 both completely stock, and I can say with full confidence that the CRF is the better bike 150%. The TTR is meaner sounding, it is quicker off the start, and it’s easier to pop wheelies up with, but the honda is just so much better in every way. the honda feels lighter, springier, and quicker, is waaaaay more reliable and is just so much nicer to ride. the top speed of the honda is also unofficially a lot higher. i’ve had to wrench on my TTR probably 30 times more than i have to mess with my honda. they’re both great bikes, but if you’re on the fence about getting a ttr or a crf, and you stumble upon this video and scroll into these comments, I’ve been riding for 8 years and I can say with full confidence that you should get the CRF.
I will start off by saying these are both great bikes and highly reliable. Yamaha’s are just as reliable as Honda’s and there is a high probability that you just bought a lemon because you’ve only been riding eight years and you’ve wrenched on it 30 times now. The ttr is just as bulletproof as the crf.
@@northamericanproductions all trail bikes are pretty near indestructible but at least from personal experience, the ttr takes more work than the honda and the honda is a lot easier to wrench on
Thanks man thought about getting a ttr cause I grew up on them but ride red all fayt
Rejet the ttr230, open up the air box, remove exhaust baffling, and enjoy.
@@uhyeahitsme413 I did that to mine and your right much better