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THE MYSTERY OF THE KAIMANAWA WALL - PART TWO
The second visit to the Kaimanawa Wall with the authorisation by D.O.C and local Iwi for a Geotechnical company to scan the area with Ground Penetrating Radar.
Interesting results revealed.
The question is, what next?
Interesting results revealed.
The question is, what next?
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THE MYSTERY OF THE KAIMANAWA WALL - PART ONE
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A pyramid in New Zealand? or just a pile of very even blocks of stone. If it is a man made structure, we know it is at least 1800 years old. In 186 AD the Taupo eruption covered a vast area in volcanic ash and pumice....including this mound of stone.
The Real Indigenous People of NZ
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With official recognition by Auckland University of ancient standing stones, with discovery of stone walls, carved boulders, and ancient working solar observatories, there is compelling evidence of a pre - celtic peoples inhabiting New Zealand as long as 4500 years ago. This 6 minute clip asks why is there a wall of silence on this most important part of NZ's early history? email: TurehuNZ@gmai...
What a load of rubbish people are so stupid they want to believe rubbish that Aline’s with there racism. Māori were he first here moriori are only an offshoot of Māori left nz in 15 th century and they gen developed into moriori in the Chatham Islands
The stone people tall fair and red headed, peace loving, good gardeners,
You mean the dwarves?
The reason this info is suppressed is bc undrip thats their ticket to controlling the 'democratic' process they use unelected 'indigenous' stooges
Seek help
Turehu, Toi and Kui are of Māori Oral Traditions 😂😂😂 but certain people Will believe wholeheartedly……..as long as it fits a Colonial justified Narrative. 😅 pick n choose aye
Incoherent
Same as all countrys there have been many indigenous peoples.before colonization..goverment erase this history so political propaganda and division of the nation can be based upon pakeha and maori people.
What
This so interesting. I'd love to see a modern genetic analysis done, because these people being of Celtic origin, or anywhere from Europe or even the middle east seems a little far fetched, given the distance, and also the Celts of 3,000 years ago were relatively primitive when compared to Mediterranean/Anatolian, middle eastern, indian and yellow river civilisations The "white skin" genetic adaptation has occurred in many places on earth independently. These people being of Celtic origin, prior to them receiving civilisation seems a bit off We aren't talking transversing the Mediterranean, or the Baltic sea. We are talking about transversing the north and south Atlantic seas and then following out American, and then going through the Pacific ocean. I would think, it's more than likely if this place was found in those days, it would be more probably that they came from modern day india or modern day china (Chinese are said to have "yellow skin", but this is a bit of a social construct when you consider a Calabrian is "white" and has darker skin than Han Chinese)
Same as chachapoyas cloud people mummies in Ecuador peru etc a Celtic blonde blue eyes people in South America... the redhead caucasians in Peru, like nz, who birthed the Inca Empire after being thousands of years already in Peru
Who knows these white folk from Peru may have had to flee from the Incas and sailed West via Easter Island, Tahiti etc to NZ and maybe it was they who brought the Kumara to our shores.
I recommend the NZ channel “out there learning”. They provide actual scientific evidence for NZs MANY rock formations.
Maori on here getting worried and should be😂
Nope. All the evidence shows Māori were the first people of nz.
Lol it doesn’t re write treaties that never get honoured anyway 😂😂 no one is worried 😊
The Polynesians must have discovered Europe
What? No.
@eeeaten Well they discovered just about everything else, so why not?
@@frwansie no they didn’t, just in the pacific.
There is no real evidence for pre-Polynesian settlement in Aotearoa. Just foolishness like this. Suppositions and fantasy from unqualified racists denying real Māori history and their rights as indigenous people.
It's just as racist to suggest the myth of Maori explorers Kupe and Toi. There is absolutely NO proof, just fantasy.
@@JohndeVere-i1v Kupe and Toi are as much oral history as mythology and not at all racist. Inventing this ridiculous fake history to deny the fact of original Polynesian settlement is motivated by racism toward Maori.
@@graemehelleur1627 Ohh you are touchy. When was study of archaeology and anthropology racist? You brought the subject up.
@@JohndeVere-i1v As I explained, it is fake anthropology and not at all academic. Its purpose is to denigrate real history and nga Maori place as tangata whenua. That is why it is racist. The intent is to replace real history with ridiculous fake invention that denies Maori their place.
@@JohndeVere-i1v. Toi and kupe are mythical people, like Jesus or Ragnar lothbrok. May have been real people, may be amalgamations of different legendary folks. The actual evidence shows Māori were in nz from around 1250AD, there is no evidence of people in nz before that.
Pre-Celtic doesn't mean they were Celtic, does it? Pre-Celtic-TiMES is what that means, surely? Pre-Celtic-Times Polynesians? Yes, this evidence is very compelling, although I dare say 'Science' has sound arguments? But yes if it's true lets find out more about it. You spoiled it at the end by saying "True Tangata Whenua of this Land" because that can ONLY BE whanau-hapu-iwi Maori peoples, surely??? Their signatures are on Te Tiriti o Waitangi. We're lucky to be offered Co-Governance IMHO??? Pretty GOOD* Deal, let's take it !!! 😂🤔🤓
I have filmed all over the place in NZ and some civilisation was very astronomically clever way before 1300 AD. This is about archaeology discussion and nothing to do with Treaty of Waitangi and co governance which are political topics. I have seen evidence under a dated volcanic ash of SAWN Moa bones 7162 years ago. A pity our Government doesn't get excited about this. I wonder why?
@@JohndeVere-i1v obviously you have no science training or qualification. There is no evidence of people in nz older than about 1250AD.
You obviously have no scientific training or have got off your arse to do original research like I have.
@@turehunz342 who are you talking to?
So people were here 5000 years before Maori arrived and the Maori still class themselves as the indigenous people of NZ. Sorry no more payouts your fraudsters, you were beaten by 5000 years.
The is no evidence of people in nz that old. Don’t believe everything you see on TH-cam.
Probably left by Oligarchs who needed a safe Island after plundering the world..... sorry I've confused it with today's history, just ignore it.
This needs to be explored. It's our history. It's a sin to hide it.
nobody is hiding the history, this video is 100% fantasy.
people who like to BS want to believe BS
Maui Tikitiki A Taranga Discovered Aotearoa-New Zealand (Which Maui Named "The Pearl of the Ocean". Maui was born 615 AD in Hawaii, and he came here on the Double-Hulled canoe Nukutaimemha. Therefore he was here approx 650AD. The Stone Walls and the Standing Stones resemble the building structures of the Ancestors of the Maori Nation (From the Ancient America's) Civilisations. They had their own Mathematicians, Scientists, Engineers and more.
that is obviously 100% made up fantasy nonsense.
Theres a pepeha from the far far north - Te Hapua - who say they dont have a waka, but claim they have been here mo ake ake ake. They are often refered to as the Tanake, and some whānau still have this in their pepeha. Similar stories can be found amongst many Iwi and Hapū across Aotearoa. Remember tangata whenua were not called Māori until Pākeha came, and they had to start differentiating themselves from the europeans. So technically there were no Māori until europeans arrived. Before that it was Iwi and Hapu.
there's no evidence of people in nz earlier than about 1250AD.
@@eeeaten This video suggests otherwise. Maybe not proof, but there is evidence
@@I_Extinguish_I lol this video is 100% fantasy. don't believe everything you see on youtube. there is ZERO evidence of people in nz before 1250AD.
The first people were not even human so stop getting it twisted into thinking the first people were probably white british 😂😂😂😂 the first people were more likely to be leprechauns. I believe they were another type of living beings that were similar to human beings. also was known as the little people with red hair that live in the mountains... Many countries have similar stories about little mystical people, so I believe that they occupied this earth as well no doubt about it.
there's no evidence of people in nz earlier than about 1250AD, and no evidence of magical creatures ever.
White europeans making up bullshit stories again
The language of the Ancient people is Maori not neolithic
what ancient people
There is no Maori language from the Neolithic era as Maori is too recent.
I know the name of this early fair skinned tribe the ngati where the f..k are we😂😂😂😂
Polynesians including maori explored and settled the biggest ocean in the world without compasses or maps while all of Europe thought the earth was flat and if you sailed to far you fell off. The face of the earth while Polynesians were settling the south pacific ocean the Europeans were coastal huggers proven by thor heyerdahl hahaha 😂😂😂 your full of conspiracy crap hahaha 😂😂😂
Maori were washed upon the shores of NZ via the Tokaleau current according to David Rankin , a Nga Pui Kamatua.
Hahaha Hahaha we knew the place was here we were migrants not immigrants the people here were our relatives and ancestors and the last migration of waka was a planned settlement migration that's why we bought our animals vegetables and women with us, washed up on a beach my arse clown and again thor heyerdahl proved Polynesians are the original ancient mariner's not the Europeans yous thought the earth was flat we knew for sure it wasn't, get outta here with your conspiracies oh and the last migration came from the cook islands and they will verify that and that was the last migration consisting of seven waka do you know their names? Well my tribe we talk about twenty five waka that came at different times before the last migration all these waka were named im a direct descendant of a fair skinned iwi and they weren't speaking Irish Hahaha
@JohndeVere-i1v even the vikings were coastal huggers compared to the Polynesian seafarers we sailed and settled the biggest ocean on the planet and we did it without compasses or maps in double hulled ocean going waka built without a single nail
@JohndeVere-i1v from aotearoa to Hawaii to Rapanui and everything in between that was discovered and settled by Polynesians who were the famous irish early explorers around tasmans time and what did they discover and in what kind of ocean going vessels that would enable a Irish man to navigate his way here from Europe i eagerly wait for your reply only thing I can think of the Irish may have discovered is whiskey
The pretenders to a culture much older than Maori.
Yes the fair skinned ones like kupe the Explorer they are the ancestors of modern day maori
News to me that Kupe was Caucasian. Maori are polynesian and ended up with the genes of the Patupaiarehe (who were caucasian) through rape and murder and completely usurped their culture.
@@JohndeVere-i1v made up nonsense. patupaiarehe were mythical fairy people. do you believe in dragons and giants, too? kupe was eastern polynesian like all maori ancestors.
@@eeeaten Can you prove Kupe's existence? Of course you can't , made up nonsense. a mythical entity to suit your story.
@@JohndeVere-i1v correct, kupe is a mythical character, or perhaps a legend, or somewhere in between. that said, science shows the first people in nz were eastern polynesian, so there's no evidence that the early explorers were anything but eastern polynesian.
@@eeeaten "so there's no evidence that the early explorers were anything but eastern polynesian." I thought you said Maori were indigenous, now you call them early explorers.
They call me tetea urukehu and I live in matang haha irony
The Maori should compensate what they took from the native nz moriori before crowing about the bill 😂
Have you ever heard of any IWI apologizing for anything they've done ?
when did that happen? what did maori take and when?
The "tattooed rocks" in Raglan are an interesting one
The sun god obviously
Pakeha ain't even supposed to be here
Youe an immigrant too bud.
This information corresponds to skeletons in the closet series on TH-cam. Read headed maoris have the same DNA as Scottish people, the same as Peruvian DNA as well. The pacific was full of sailors.
yeah that's made up nonsense from kooks and amateurs. no ancestry from scottish or america.
Maoris shouldn't claim as if they were the indigenous people of NZ.
They know they are not indigenous as early missionaries were told stories by Maori elders of the white people who taught Maori basically the culture we see today (except the violence)
read the definition of the word indigenous. maori are indigenous to nz.
@@eeeaten Maori are not indigenous as they say they came to NZ from Hawaiki (wherever the hell that is)
@@JohndeVere-i1v again, read the definition.
@@eeeaten again look at the facts.
I am the celtic king of new zealand, give me back my country...😮
I claim new zealand as mine ,as i am of celtic heritage,😮
Irish and Māori culture are similar in many ways but that does not mean white people were set up here before us māori😂 many different cultures have similarities and are on opposites from each other in the world
Irish are white folk. You say Maori and Irish culture is similar. Have you considered that Maori inherited some of Irish culture which is of course much older. If this is the case, there is evidence that late Neolithic Irish came to NZ with Maori absorbing their culture as Maori definitely did not travel to Ireland.
@@turehunz342 there is zero evidence of any people in nz before the eastern polynesian ancestors of maori arrived.
There are no such thing as indigenous people unless you live in Africa the rest are migrants
that's not what the definition of the word indigenous says.
@ yes I know the first people to use that land but most weren’t
@@davidboyd8113 maori were the first people in new zealand.
They are them bro....
Lots of weird stones around the south waikato
A geologist might tell you if these stones are natural to the area ,not someone with a belief celts were not the best sailor s five thousand years ago and where generally in europe.🎉
What I have learnt over the years is that amazing structures have taken place which baffles our modern day thinking. In speaking with an elderly gentleman in Jordan very recently he said to me we have to accept is what is infront of us but how it came about or how it was constructed etc is just theory. There is not definitive proof. ie the pyramids or sphinx. The Celtic cross is actually a wonderful navigational instrument. The Egyptian/Phoenician/Greek voyages of discovery throughout the Pacific under the guidance of Maui the Navigator over 2000 years ago is tantalising to contemplate but difficult to prove.
@@JohndeVere-i1v fantasy nonsense.
So its the maori land and money grab before the truth is truely told in 2063 this explanes why the big lieing push has started
incoherent conspiracy fantasy
I keep being suggested to dig into new Zealand history, because a lot of new Zealand people feel their link to Ireland. I must start digging
There's no link to Ireland with our people's. But the natural habitats inhabit a similar spiritual presence. Patupaiarehe and Tūrehu are the guardians and indiginoeus spiritual beings of this land. They are "The children of the Mist" told in our folklore. The word "keha" derived from Māori describing these beings as "white figures". Which has now evolved to "Pākeha" to distinguish European people.
lol
This guy is a joke
Where do people get these moriori facts cos omg every white orator loves saying that but its untrue like how has someone made that reference or how do I reference where people hear that rubbish
it was just presented but you say its rubbish so were to now is your call hope you find what your looking for tr the bible the end bits good
@@skylark17 wow is this in english?
White people couldn’t even make it out of Europe 5000 years ago
thats wrong and nonsence are you annoyed at the facts of history
What right have the suits got to suppress this stuff. They are working for us and I say open up for a dig and let's find out about our past.
dig where? nobody is suppressing it, it's just made up fantasy nonsense
Why couldn't Maori or their predecessors have made these ? Spirals were inscribed by many cultures..not just Celts! Where is the evidence of Celts sailing to NZ in those days?
Had the maoris discovered the wheel before the Europeans arrived in New Zealand?
So no archeological confirmation yet.
It is piecing clues together to arrive at a probability. At a simple level we have to decide what is the probability of this structure being man made.
Need archeological confirmation and govt acknowledgement otherwise its irrelevant
Therein lies the problem. Our Government actively try to shut down investigations of our ancient history ( unlike other countries). So you will never get archaeologists in Government employment going against the official narrative as it is career suicide. So why do you think the Government wants to take no interest in our pre Maori history?
@@patriciamoke15the video is made up nonsense, not supported by any scientist, archeologist or historian.
@@turehunz342 archeologists would LOVE to find pre Māori anything. It would make their careers if they could prove it. No professional accepts pre Māori people in nz because there is NO evidence for it.
Whoever done those stones, have LONG gone. I’d say before the Great Flood, which is before Māui the Surveyor, fished up Te Ika a Māui (Aotearoa) Māui did not “fish” up the ika, it would have risen out of the water as the floods were subsiding back to normal levels. That was after the younger dryas days
incoherent fantasy nonsense. there was no great flood. you're getting mythology mixed up with reality.
Why Europeans try telling everyone their history is beyond me
Because European history is far more interesting to Europeans than Maori history.
@@turehunz342 you misunderstood the comment. caseyking meant why are europeans telling other people's history.
Why not? Everyone discusses and researches other cultures histories. Do you have a problem with that?
@@turehunz342 I agree with you on this. Just not on the whole fairy pre Māori people nonsense.
Most of our kōrero are tapu. Especially whakapapa. Because of reasons like this, other cultures trying to explain another culture and their origins. Which almost 99% of the time ends up confusing the next generations. Creating a "chinese whispers" effect. The bible for example. Took the written stories from ancient Sumerian tablets. Years and years of manipulation from common man. Now everyone thinks the Bible is the true book. #NeverRevealYourWhakapapaUntilItsTime
Thank you for shedding light on the ancient world wide culture from before the flood.. 😁We The patupairehe shared the land with the Turehu and Panenehu in those times.
is there any irrational nonsense you don't believe?