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Guy Daniels The Microbiome Expert
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เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 7 ธ.ค. 2023
I´m Guy Daniels, and I´m THE Microbiome Expert. I will help you take back control of your body and health.
Probiotics & fermented food NOT helping your gut? You're NOT alone! Follow the data, NOT the hype.
My critique of probiotics, particularly Lactobacillus, garners the most feedback-sometimes outrage. But why is the microbiome expert questioning their use while the masses sing their praises? Is he off his rocker, or does he have insights that others are missing? 🦠🔥
🔍 What You'll Learn:
The surprising reality about Lactobacillus as a probiotic.
Why the scientific data on Lactobacillus is disappointing.
How popular approaches to SIBO, IBS, and dysbiosis might be misguided.
💡 Key Insights:
Discover why I criticize the overuse of Lactobacillus based on extensive research and meta-analyses.
Understand how following the crowd in microbiome health may not be the best path.
Learn about more effective strategies for maintaining a healthy gut.
📊 Fascinating Facts:
Why Lactobacillus might not be the probiotic powerhouse it’s claimed to be.
The crucial distinction between fad treatments and scientifically-backed gut health practices.
📺 Subscribe for more groundbreaking insights: The Microbiome Expert 🌟
🔔 Hit the bell icon to stay updated! 🛎️
🔗 Dive deeper into the microbiome and how to care for it on our website: themicrobiomeexpert.com/
📱 Stay connected and get more health insights by following us on our social media
- Instagram: microbiomeexpert
- Facebook: MicrobiomeExpert
- X: microbiomexpert
🔍 What You'll Learn:
The surprising reality about Lactobacillus as a probiotic.
Why the scientific data on Lactobacillus is disappointing.
How popular approaches to SIBO, IBS, and dysbiosis might be misguided.
💡 Key Insights:
Discover why I criticize the overuse of Lactobacillus based on extensive research and meta-analyses.
Understand how following the crowd in microbiome health may not be the best path.
Learn about more effective strategies for maintaining a healthy gut.
📊 Fascinating Facts:
Why Lactobacillus might not be the probiotic powerhouse it’s claimed to be.
The crucial distinction between fad treatments and scientifically-backed gut health practices.
📺 Subscribe for more groundbreaking insights: The Microbiome Expert 🌟
🔔 Hit the bell icon to stay updated! 🛎️
🔗 Dive deeper into the microbiome and how to care for it on our website: themicrobiomeexpert.com/
📱 Stay connected and get more health insights by following us on our social media
- Instagram: microbiomeexpert
- Facebook: MicrobiomeExpert
- X: microbiomexpert
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Dr Mark Pimentel has concerns regarding the lactobacillus strains and probiotic s for people suffering from IBS/SIBO. Some worrying research on Ecoli Nissle 1917 probiotic emerging as well.
Dr. Daniels, As a retired plant nutritionist who studied and taught growers how to manage the pH of the soil media I found your discussion highly informed, extremely detailed and very helpful and enlightening! Thank you! I will watch ALL your instructional videos and learn more! I understand your point that there have been no known civilizations that were 100% plant based. No argument. However, it is interesting that the well studied Okinawans of the WWII generation with great longevity were found to be about 95-97% plant based, pretty low calorie and definitely low in protein and fat by most any standards. And most notable is the diet record showed they derived 66% of calories from a root vegetable, sweet potato which fits your thesis perfectly. The Okinawan diet raises a question that I have puzzled about for some time. Given that ocean fish now contain a lot of heavy metals and toxins that were not in the fish or water at the higher present day level is there a good reason to include significant quantities of mackerel, sardines, etc today if we can have a reasonably high level of plant protein and avoid certain risks? Or is there a beneficial effect on a particular microbe from the fish that is key to pH and microbiome balance? DHA is always discussed, but confusing. What about TMAO? I beg your pardon if you have covered this in your other lectures and promise I will watch them all and study the details. Oh, one last question? Could you discuss the effects of green tea on an empty stomach unbuffered. There seems to be some cultural wisdom from India that suggests tea should never be taken on an empty stomach. It does seem to have some dramatic effects downstream in some situations, and no doubt there must be some significant effects on the microbiome even in the distal colon. Big money studies obviously suggest tea effects are positive, but your unbiased observations would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks for the great work! There is nothing like it that I have seen in print or online! Congratulations!! Very few in the world that qualify as a true GI Guru, but I have to hand it to you. Dr. Daniels! You have set the standard!
12:20 which issues happen if you only use one prebiotic? some functional medicine specialistis say recommend only acacia fiber as single prebiotic. resistant starch can lead to explosion of bad bacteria. do you agree?
So no to modified citrus pectin?
I wouldn't put it that way. I'd say the data is better for apple pectin.
Seems like total nonsense to me. Different strains can have completely different effects. To categorize all lactobacillus as bad seems like an oversimplification since there is tons of data to show that some are incredibly beneficial. L. Reuteri for instance.
watch some more videos, and perhaps it will make more sense to you
Hi there, may I know if your protocol for autoimmune disease work for rheumatoid arthritis? thank you.
It works to address the dysbiotic microbiome in RA. Which drives much of the disease. Please watch my two-part video on autoimmune disease.
I guess OVER-use of anything should be discouraged. However I stay firmly by my sauerkraut (home-made); at least 2 table-spoons every other day as a salad to my dinner plate brings me to a near orgasm, so I can't imagine it's bad for my body... Same goes for kefir, BUT NOT TOGETHER WITH SAUERKRAUT!!!
I went off the lacto probiotics and take just a bifido probiotic as you advised and my gut is so calm now
Glad to be of help. Please let others know about the channel.
Are dried apples OK?
i don't see why not
Everything you say makes sense, but I follow two of your protocols I bought into it, and I got worse taking the prebiotic shakes for the Akkermansia. My diarrhoea was worse and I was more toxic than ever now in another video. I seen you mention not to take the inulin if you have diarrhoea I thought your program would account for this anyhow, I’m back to square one because your protocol did not work for me I tried it for 10 days. Not sure if I should keep going, but I was in a lot of pain. My postmeal perennial blood sugar spiked more than before and the LPS was affecting my brain and nerve damage. Just getting worse after your program everything you say makes complete sense but when I tried it for 10 days straight, and every symptom got worse not sure where to go from here, but I am taking the sporre from megaspore biotic that seems to be good for me, but in another video, you mentioned that sports don’t work whatsoever I’m quite confused and not sure if I could keep taking the pre-biotics along with the Akkermansia because my situation seem to have gotten worse
Obviously my consultations are very thorough. The protocols are built on average information, and help many. But there are many nuances to this, things I would pick up on during a conversation. I can't build a protocol 20 pages long trying to identify every variable possible. It sounds like you should discontinue to A muciniphila. I recently took this recommendation out of the few protocols it was in after conversations during my consultations. Perhaps this will help. And yes, if you have diarrhea, then I'd also take out the inulin. Again, a consultation is better.
This guy is abusive toward his audience
I am? I thought I was just providing valuable information that people aren't finding anywhere else. If that's abusive, well, I don't have a protocol for being overly sensitive.
Hi and thanks from Germany. Where to get F. prausnitzii from? Am eating fresh things from my garden such as Yacon (Smallanthus sonchifolius) which has inulin. As a retired graduated biologist and professional horticulturalist I do my own experiments mainly in plant production.
Guy needs to be more popular! Influence people in a good way
Subscribed, greetings and thanks from a biologist living in Germany. Am growing yacon (Smallanthus sonchifolius) which is rich in inulin/fructooligosaccharides in my garden. Started different ways of fermentation of yacon tubers, even in Sauerkraut style. Plants have their own fascinating microbiomes: Some living in the rhizosphere and even inside the plant as endophytes, yes even inside things like apple seeds to promote the future seedling. Planning to produce joghurt with milk, yacon and specific bacteria. Am having a joghurt machine which controls temperature fluctuations. Please, do you have recommendations which bacteria to use? There is some inspiration from Dr. Davies book.
Just want to thank you for doing what you do!
You're welcome. Please help support the channel by liking, subscribing and recommending to others. It's still new.
Yes but how do we fix our guts?
on my website, Themicrobiomeexpert.com you can find a number of protocols supporting a wide variety of conditions. Also, you can schedule a consultation there as well.
My suspicion is that the reason Bifidobacterium and Lactobacillus strains are high in people with IBS is that people with IBS are very likely to take a probiotic. This would fit well with the research showing supplementation of those can help manage IBS symptoms. It may very well be the case that those strains are beneficial and can improve symptoms, while also being the case that if you actually want to cure your dysbiosis you need to increase strains like F. prau and reduce the pathogenic overgrowth ones.
good thought but no. All of the studies control for probiotic intake.
I didn't see fermented foods addressed. Kimchi, sauerkraut, miso, natto, tempeh, Kefir and cheeses like parmesan reggiano (and maybe Gouda, Emmental, Gruyere, Roqueforte, especially those made with raw milk) have all been shown to have beneficial effects on the gut microbiome, at least in small limited studies, and the research wasn't funded by entities with a conflict of interest either. If most the beneficial bacterial in the gut cannot survive outside of the gut, where do they come from?
Again, if you are healthy, and fermented foods make you happy, then enjoy them in moderation. I'm just presenting the data across the board. And on average, if you are dysbiotic, then they can be a bad idea, and some a very bad idea. For example, milk proteins are HIGHLY problematic in the dysbiotic. So with say kefir from cows milk, you're introducing dairy proteins, Lactobacillus and other bacteria possibly on top of SIBO and lactate. It's a TERRIBLE combination. It may help in some people, but on average, it's a very bad idea.
@@TheMicrobiomeExpert my understanding is that fermented dairy is where there’s the most evidence for benefit, and to some extent soybeans too. Maybe it’s not good for dysbiosis but high amounts of inulin, resistant starch and most prebiotic fibers championed here have been shown to increase inflammation in a dysbiotic gut too. There is at least one A2/A2 kefir product out there for those who don’t like the A1 milk protein for whatever reason, but if you follow the science as claimed then a casein allergy is pretty rare, less than 1% of the population.
Probably not great that a test showed I was below the detectable limit for Faecalibacterium prausnitzii
You probably have some. Almost everyone does. You just have to change to environment to favor it.
@@TheMicrobiomeExpert Yeah, it's strange it's so low though. I've been on a plant-based diet for a very long time, so most of the foods I read that can increase its population are already in my diet in abundance.
Have you ever looked at the recent studies on glioblastoma and the gut microbiome? I have GBM; that's why I'm interested.
I can't say that I have, sorry
Great podcast. I've been taking probiotics for over a year now and they've made no difference whatsoever. A complete waste of money.
You're welcome to schedule a consultation with me. That won't be a waste of your money.
You said, more often than not! Often times! I’ve listen to scientists whose expertise is gut health! As well as functional medicine physicians. I plain yogurt Greek yogurt and kimchi everyday. As well as vegetables to feed my good gut bacteria and will continue to do so…
I wish you continue success. Again, we're talking averages here. And on average, if someone is dysbiotic then Lactobacillus and fermented foods are a bad idea. If you are healthy, then enjoy in moderation if that makes you happy.
Yeah but i have low good bacteria and also dont tolerate fermented foods. Stool analysis shows: Bacteroides species 2 x 10^9 KBE/g stool1x10^9 - 9x10^11 Bifidobacterium species 2 x 10^9 KBE/g stool 1x10^9 - 9x10^11 Lactobacillus species <1 x 10^5 KBE/g stool 1x10^5 - 9x10^7 Enterococcus species 3 x 10^6 KBE/g stool 1x10^6 - 9x10^7 Lactulose breath tests shows excess methane, hydrogen is not suspicious. methanobrevibacter smithii wasnt tested in stool but is probably there in excess or there wouldnt be excess methane.
Do you recommend the IBS with constipation protocol or SIBO protocol? I bought both but don't know which I should follow next.
The methane seems to be stubborn. No effect of different antmicrobial therapies be it synthetic or herbs.
It depends. Why don't you send me an email on my website (Themicrobiomeexpert.com) and we can discuss this in private.
Methane issues iron-out when you rectify the environment.
I listened to this lecture probably on average 4-5 times what with starting and rewinding to re listen to interesting sections (essentially every single part of this amazing lecture). I am subscribed and I’m going to buy some of your protocols. The naturopathic world of natural medicine has been waiting for this breakthrough for some years. I have had to rewind my assumptions about lactobacillus. A difficult but necessary journey.
Thanks for your feedback. Please help out the cause by letting others know. I just launched in February, and although things are going well, it's always a challenge to spread the word.
What are your credentials? I didn't see them on your website.
You can go to my Linkedin profile where I have over 17,000 followers.
Sachromyleces boulardii?
completely unnecessary, and especially bad for Crohn's.
What abt akermansia
Depends on your condition. I have a whole video dedicated to A muciniphila. Check in out.
I'm sold, I have bloating, perhaps SIBO, and probiotics make my condition worse, the problem I have now is how to avoid them.
You're welcome to schedule a consultation or get a protocol from my website. Themicrobiomeexpert.com
So what is the alternative treatment. If that was mentioned I missed it.
I have a number of protocols available on my website. Themicrobiomeexpert.com
I have watched many of your videos. I agree that probiotics and fermented foods haven't worked for me. In none of these presentations have I found an applicable approach to making things better for me.
You can schedule a consultation or find a protocol on my website. Themicrobiomeexpert.com
are you familiar with bacilis subtilis from Japanese fermented natto and do you have any data on that regarding its effect on the microbiome?
Thanks for bringing up B.Subtilis. I failed trying to get the spores to work in soybeans, so I fermented raw dairy. It does well in milk but I don’t know how good it actually is as a prebiotic. It tastes fine. But not as good as Kefir. Any thoughts?
@@stephenduplantier2151 Combine lactobacillus with subtilis then the texture and taste is good. You need the lactic acid from lactobacillus. I like fermentum me3 + b subtilis hu58 yogurt. For soybeans you need to buy specifically the b subtilis natto strain not regular b subtilis.
Awesome, thank you
You're welcome. Please subscribe, like and recommend.
Thank you for the interesting video. I'm still not convinced (yet) about causation based on this alone. A few things I'd like to say: 1) You mentioned cross-feeding from akkermansia to prausnitzii, but some of your slides clearly show scenarios where prausnitzii is beneficial (all green), but akkermansia is detrimental (all orange). 2) There are different types of inulin: chicory, j-artichoke, b-agave, etc. They are all different molecules. Which one is most beneficial and why? 3) Prebiotics shouldn't be necessary anyway, as our bodies produce their own prebiotics. If our bodies own prebiotics, evolved over many millennia, can't fix the dysbiosis, then there's likely a deeper root cause behind the dysbiosis. 4) Do you think that there is too much oxygen in the gut causing this dysbiosis, and if so, what is causing the high oxygen levels?
A muciniphila is likely a bad idea in colorectal cancer, dementia and Parkinson's. See those videos
inulin is inulin, regardless of source, unless the manufacturer alters it
Our bodies produce their own prebiotics? Maybe true if you consider breast milk or mucus. Care to expand?
High oxygen (and we're really only talking about 2%) is induced from the inflammatory state, which is largely driven by antibiotics. Please see that presentation. Also see Opportunistic pathogens.
@@TheMicrobiomeExpert 1) Yes, akkermansia can be problematic when levels are too high, probably due to degrading mucin, but it goes to show that the increased cross-feeding isn't helping. 2) Certain polysaccharides with 20-100 moecules of fructose can be classified as an "inulin", but that doesn't mean it is one identical molecule. Inulin from j-artichoke has a longer molecular chain and relatively fewer branches; from chicory a short molecular chain and more branches. 3) Yes, the mucus can act as a prebiotic source. Mucus can also be lost during dysbiosis even without akkermansia. Can check blood levels of proline, threonine, and serine. 4) I'm not sure what causes high oxygen, if it's ROS related or butyrate metabolism. Have you read Lucy Mailing's 'the oxygen gut dysbiosis connection'? What are your thoughts?
"Probiotics", "microbiome" etc. - Just more silly stories to sell NON food and poisonous supplements to dumb people.
I'll take this opportunity to turn your "brilliant" comment into some positive commentary. So yes, food can go a VERY long way to determining your heath. Without a doubt. And if you look at the longest-lived people in the world, they don't take supplements. HOWEVER, there are a variety of insults that most of us can experience in our lives which can have major impacts on our health. Antibiotics, PPIs and an unhealthy diet are HUGE determinants on the microbiome. The Okinawans or Sardinians haven't been exposed to this. I have often found, MANY times over, that despite people's best efforts to manage their health, via the microbiome, by diet. It fails. Once the microbiome is broken, you need to drive significant change in its environment to reestablish health. This requires more than just diet. I have seen this time and time again. For those out there who tried it by diet alone, and failed, feel free to chime in.
Wow so all the folks I follow for peri/menopause issues all suggest fermented foods and I make a reuteri yogurt Actually love it. 😮🤔what is a lady to do???
If you are healthy, then enjoy your fermented foods in moderation. They are not a good choice for the dysbiotic, on average.
Fermented foods ..yogurt. Included...is heast like. ...and let the candida overgrowth..in the Stomac.....
thanks for your contribution
my smallish screen so l can not read much of those small letters
You can pull any of the papers at PubMed, or other sources
So random question here. Do these fermented foods not convert to glucose once ingested? If so, can they then not create more issues, as sugar would, for someone with damaged stomach/intestine tissues?
the lactose (which is glucose and galactose) is broken down into lactate.
'There are Lies then there are damned lies then there are Statistics.' Stats and data used for inferring or criticism can be a motherlode of all lies. Many have benefitted by many i mean in millions with yoghurt, kefir, and many other fermented products. It cant be a lie so something else must be..
I can only recommend that you watch more videos. Perhaps it will click in time.
@@TheMicrobiomeExpert : So can u refute number of studies done on L rueteri strains, nine of them. Atleast come up with comprehensive refutation on only one strain that is DSM 17938. Then i might take u seriously. On a side note: Another interesting thing that science might ve missed taking seasons in to consideration which was considered primarily during days of past. In some book i ve read its not advisable even prohibited to take probiotics like curd/yogurt during rainy season or on a rainy day. But we have no studies at all to back it up or to refute it.
My purpose in being isn't to spend my time trying to persuade you so you can maybe take me seriously. I'm far too busy. You can watch the videos or not. Best of luck.
Kefir fixed my horrible histamine sensitivity. I couldnt eat any other fermented foods now i can. Its about type of bacteria in there, proper balance of vitamins B production. If i would drink enriched kefir my fingers would become blue. Because plain kefir has antihistamine bacteria while other fermented things have prohistamine ones but proper ones let body calm down and turn back off sensitivity genes.
I'm glad you had a good experience. We're talking averages here. and on average, what I mention is not good for those who are dysbiotic. and kefir is complicated by the dairy proteins which many people are highly reactive to.
So what are the quantities of oats we need to consume that will achieve 3 grams of beta-glucan?
about a couple bowls
Do I see a product placement in future videos?
thanks for your contribution
A correlational presence of Bifidobacteria and Lactobacillus in the diseases you cited does not indicate that they are causative or even accelerative of those conditions. It could just be that they are hardier than other bacteria and are thus likelier to survive upon the intake of antibiotics or antacids. I say this owing to the benefits these strains are known to bring from a trove of research and anecdotes. E Coli is the opposite, where research and anecdotes attest to its harm. As you said, these are anaerobic strains, so are viable and easy to sell. Maybe this is the whole point, that they are nature's solution to dysbiosis. They are administered into the gut and remain there for a transient period in which they wipe out the actual pathobionts and relieve dysbiosis. Then, the beneficial aerobic species you cited have the latitude to return to healthy levels. In an ideal world, the beneficial aerobic bacteria would be easily accessible and affordable, but that is not the case, while I highly doubt that nature is letting us down, so I truly believe that Bifidobacteria Lactobacillus, as well as Bacilis, Saccharomyces and Akkermansia, are the keys to restoring good gut health. Fibres and prebiotics are impossible in cases of dysbiosis, hence why the carnivore diet sees so much success in healing people's guts. Thank you for sharing your perspective and serving to improve my understanding of the gut microbiome.
Thanks for your contribution, but you said quite a few things that aren't exactly factual. I don't want to write a book here, so what I do suggest is that you watch my videos and you'll being to understand. We'll start with this. Do you want S boulardii in Crohn's? Do you want A muciniphila in dementia, Parkinson's and colorectal cancer? Do you want Lactobacillus and Bifidobacterium in Parkinson's? Is the carnivore diet really a healthy diet, or is it food avoidance and drives dysbiosis?
This is an angry comment. My lactobacillus made me do it!
You're off the hook then.
A lot of what you say in this presentation sounds plausible - but there is a really serious problem with it. You say that your position is justified by the data and you purport to present that data to us - but unfortunately you really don't do so in any scientifically credible way. For example right now I'm looking at your graphs where you have orange and green sections on what appear to be histograms above various conditions, and you tell us that this shows that, for example, Roseburia is beneficial whereas Enterococcus is associated with ill health. But, the problem is you never really explain what that graph is showing, where the figures come from or what the statistical significance of them is. In short, whilst it looks, visually, like convincing data it actually doesn't really make any sense. Take, the case of covid. First off one can wonder what the height graph over covid is supposed to represent. You give some units on the left hand side but there is no legend to explain what those units are. We are supposed to assume that they mean something since you have different heights above different conditions, but you don't actually say what they signify. Secondly, you divide the graph into two sections. Where does this division into two sections come from? In particular what does the green section actually represent? You don't really explain it at all, just tell us that having a big green section is good, and having a big orange section is bad - but you could do a much better job explaining what those sections actually mean and where the data that they're based on comes from. I'm certainly open to the idea that your argument is a good one, and I certainly think that there is a very strong case to be made that prebiotics represent a much better approach to modifying the gut biome than probiotics, but without a better presentation of the data, I just can't say that you really make the case at all.
I aim to build videos which are interesting and different, but not boring. I can't explain everything at all times. I often leave out details from a variety of sources to streamline the data for the overall audience. However, I did briefly explain my graphing, but for those who need a bit more detail, here it is. The Y axis represents an individual data point when a significant difference was found between healthy controls and those with a given condition. The analytical methods used were either PCR (which is narrow in scope using primers to search for suspected actors) 16S which is less exact (often times only going down to the genus level) and shotgun metagenomics (which enables a pretty complete inventory of the microbiome down to the strain level). So if the study was 16S, and Roseburia was found to be significantly elevated in healthy controls, that would be one data point. If another study was shotgun, and found that three species from Streptococcus were higher in colorectal cancer, then that would be three data point. If the paper was PCR for example, and found that one species of Lactobacillus was higher, the other lower, that would be two data points in opposing directions. If an unidentified species from Lachnospiraceae was found to be higher or lower, I would not include it given the size of this family, it would be a useless data point. A data point for Faecalibacterium is a data point for F prausnitzii because for all intents and purposes it's a one species genus. Whereas a data point for Escherchia is a data point for E coli, not because it's essentially a one-species genus, but for practical purposes it is, given that whenever there is speces level data for Escherichia, it's 99% of the time E coli. I could write a book here. I suggest you watch some videos.
@TheMicrobiomeExpert Have I got this clear, on these graphs the number on the Y axis represents the number of times a particular condition featured in a paper examining the constituents of subjects microbiome, with the orange section representing the proportion of the count where the specific strain was significantly present in a subject, and the green the proportion where it was absent?
I like the information, what is the connection everyone tells specific Lactobacillus strain for vaginal health and recurrent UTl?
Vaginal health is a bit of a different story. Please watch my video entitled, "Getting started in life with an optimal microbiome" for much more information.
I had really bad 'IBS" for six years nothing helped. then I had some investigations and found out my issue was inflammatory kind of gut problems - erosions and ulcers - particularly at distal end of small intestine but everywhere. About twenty erosioned areas - and loss of villi that were not related to celiac apparently. Anyway, then COVID hit and I couldn't follow up with more biopsies, I had what looked like Crohn's but came back negative for the faecal test. So delays doing further 'balloon' scope with biopsy. I had a camera pill, colonoscoppy and endoscopy. anyway, when covid restrictions relaxed and I had to have another procedure, due to bone infection risk (dental) was put on antibiotics and guess what. All my gut issues were fixed in literally three days - pain and bloating gone, soon after I found I could eat anything - never looked back. that was in 2020. I can demolish any fruit/veg/nut/legume without any bloating. Of course meats were never an issue. Lived on m eat and milk instead of the liquid meal replacement I was prescribed at one stage - sugar and seed oil not good.
I'm glad to hear you overcame your health issue. Sounds a bit like Crohn's to me. Hopefully you can continue in health.
How can you praise F prau so much and fail to know that B coagulants is one of the most effective way to increase it. Yes spore probiotics aren't on the charts but who cares we know when people take certain spore bacteria, other bacteria go up. This effect is useful and not utilizing it is not smart.
B coagulans (is the proper spelling) is one of, or one of the probiotics with the best data. That being said, the microbiome is much more complex than just one bacterium (F prausnitzii). Second - do you think a supplement of B coagulans is going to alter the microbiome more than 30-35 grams of prebiotics per day? Third - I'm willing to bet I have more studies showing pectin and inulin increase F prausntizii than you have studies (no animal) showing B coagulans increases it. Lastly, my data points come from researchers around the globe with no agenda to sell a probiotic. They simply want to know how is the microbiome different between healthy controls vs those with a condition. It's just the data without an agenda. Feel free to watch more of my videos. I think in time it will click.
@@TheMicrobiomeExpert I think the reasonable position here is not either or. If you see low f prau on test, just have them take both! This is my main point. I am not anti fiber- I just don't understand this dogmatic anti probiotic stance when we have plenty of data showing probiotics also influences bacterial populations in predictable enough manner that they should be used along side all the other tools.
I do say that Bifidobacterium species are generally health-promoting - so it's not anti-probiotic. I also say that probiotics help some of the people some of the time. But the prebiotics not only feed FP. They feed a slew of other amazing health-promotors and change a dysbiotic microbiome much more effectively. Plus some people have budgetary constraints. But if someone wants to follow one of my protocols and take some B coagulans with it, I don't have a huge problem with that, whereas with Lactobacillus probiotics, I would.
@@TheMicrobiomeExpert I understand but just like b coagulans has a signature of changing microbiome in a certain way, so do certain strains of lactobacillus. They can suppress, promote certain bacteria just like any other bacteria. IMO, a much more likely explanation for higher lactobacillus is that it is a consequence and not the cause of problems. Obviously there are exceptions like lactic acidosis etc...
Would love a discussion with you and Dr. Davis.
Set it up.
@@TheMicrobiomeExpert I would if I knew Dr. Davis personally. I can leave a comment on his channel.
You have 0 data that shows lactobacillus ruiteri as being non effective. There is tons of data showing its incredible effects
What I'm showing is hundreds upon hundreds of trials from around the world where the microbiome of those with a given disease/condition were compared to healthy controls. This is human fecal microbiome data via PCR, 16S and shotgun metagenomics. This is real world. This gives you a clear picture of who is who in the gut. These are not intervention trials where some company-sponsored data in animals, in vitro or in vivo shows that their particular strain that they manipulated had some short-term benefit. I've had a number of people tell me over the years that they used a probiotic and it worked for a while, until it didn't. And many others tell me the probiotic did nothing or made them significantly worse. And how is it that I can help so many people without using probiotics? Watch my videos and you'll begin to understand.