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Thanks, and good to hear. Hope these can be of some use to those who wanna try their hand at it.

@ well I ain’t a Godlike player like you and some of the other great GH/RB people, but I can still try even if it’s not a FC lol.

I mean I've just been beating my own records for a while now, they're all documented on Scorehero (linked in description) and on the channel.

Stock GH1 SG

It's just a generic, pretty low quality mono CRT (Sanyo brand). It was something in storage until my good quality one (S-video, stereo) started shutting off randomly when I got a new PS2/SG late last year to finish the game. Always appreciate the kind words, there's plenty to still do in the game (or at least further optimization) and it'll sure be interesting to see where it goes if someone else wants to give it an honest go. The lack of optimals mainly has to do with the early whammy mechanic, but it's also worth noting in other titles peoples' claims of certain optimals may just be that (claims), even on multiple ties. Everything I've declared as (non-lag) optimal has been tested through TAS, though new mechanic findings, improved emulation accuracy, or the off chance I just performed/calculated a couple things incorrectly could make even those obsolete.

I have a feeling my whammy bar would break again if I ever seriously committed to it lol, glad I was able to match your good ticks this time around anyway.

Thanks a bunch, but yeah we're getting close to the end of the road here methinks. There's a near endless amount you can do with this game but only so much time/motivation to put towards it.

The legend of TonyThreeChains and his 2 billion score dynasty lives on

Second this

@@Rezplz Third this

No eta on this tbh. Don't really feel like committing to a whole new project atm and I'd like to try and enjoy the experience if I end up doing it.

Just on particular songs that had changes from their PS2 counterparts, calculations are made the same.

@EvilApple567 Huh, interesting. I continue to learn new things about these games every day! 😅

Meant to reply earlier, but honestly I doubt it. While the mechanic is certainly less feasible on specific tracks/activations, it would feel entirely arbitrary to only use it on those few tracks already abused on SH. Controversial as it may be, I don't really view scores using that exploit comparable/competitive with non-lag scores, it's just a matter of archaic leaderboard design and a lack of community activity/interest to resolve it. Given the recent unfortunate event involving the most prominent user of the mechanic (and only one with still standing records) I'll refrain from going any further than just to say I've tied one of the lag 1sts (Yes We Can) but don't agree with those scores on the traditional leaderboards regardless so haven't/won't post them there.

Since the Xbox port came months later, I guess they felt inclined to "update" parts of the game such as mechanics (removal of hopo glitch and minor specific whammy function are all I know atm) and certain songs. These changes range from very minor (this song is a great example, PS2 has an extra 48 points from a longer RB sustain at 2:58) to major such as an extra note in Jessica, cut note in Misirlou, 2 extra SP phrases in X-stream (though they don't change path functionality), and 2 extra phrases in Stop that make the path completely incompatible with the PS2 version (SH's adjusted formula doesn't even try to properly calculate between the two lol).

This didn't beat the lag 1st, those ticks are either impossible or basically optimal without lag. When I beat a lag score there's no need to specify in the title "No Lag Glitch" such as my last upload of Red Lottery. The difficulty question is coincidentally hard to answer because my skill has improved going through the setlist, but even if it might not be in my top-top scores at this point Madhouse still sticks out in my mind as the worst singular grind for a couple reasons. The first was just the blatant difficulty in optimizing ticks alongside the squeezes, the second was the fact that previous 1st had no proof attached and people were just baselessly claiming it was real which left an awful taste in my mouth the whole time. I spent at least 40, but probably closer to 50 hours on that record and it still hurts to think about almost a year later. As for the tick barriers you mentioned, honestly I don't feel particularly inclined to go back to songs just to pick up minor tick milestones (hundreds), especially for songs I've already had to redo like Girlfriend for the 74 untied (no lag glitch) 1sts, but there are a couple I've redone either just for curiosity/fun or because they were just that bad (usually on a new squeeze path). It's not out of the question I'll do more (especially on songs like Woman I haven't played in almost a year) again for fun/curiosity but there's certainly no checklist in that department, I've almost exclusively hunted major milestones (thousands or new squeezes) and don't really have the motivation or time for optimizing every aspect of the game. Thanks for the in-depth questions, always nice having some actual feedback and discussion on these.

You'd be surprised just how engaging even this becomes after that 2nd act. I hated this as a kid like everyone but honestly don't mind it much audio wise nowadays.

Ya'll are bringing out the demonic requests on this, but I probably will end up going for the 3rd act Nearly Ideal (+200) at some point. Motivation is kinda eh for it though since I don't see a reasonable route to 397k.

As a general rule, I'm not looking to redo every song on each console, I've just been redoing stuff I have other reasons to do so (new squeezes, thousand milestones, etc.) on Xbox since it's the superior version. The only reason I would go back to that hellscape is if I find the extra squeeze on the last act to be somewhat reasonable through TAS, but motivation for that is pretty slim since 424k is already done and I would have to sacrifice a lot of ticks to get enough runs to the last act (which also bleeds many ticks) so the overall score increase wouldn't even be very substantial most likely.

Thanks for clearing that up. On what your plans are for the songs you squeeze. Such as point barriers. I mainly said do madhouse as a joke since apparently that song is cock and ball torture to optimize score.

Thanks, and yes I use a stock GH1 SG for both consoles (Blue Indigo v4 adapter for Xbox)