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I’m so glad that there are also some proposals for expanding and/or restoring some of our remaining historic passenger stations here! Some are in desperate need of restoration, and I’m glad that such a project is happening in my lifetime because we need it.

I went to AC for a conference a few weeks ago. Rode Amtrak to Philly, Market-Frankford Line and PATCO to Lindenwold, AC Line to AC, then took the free Jitney shuttle to my hotel. All my connections were smooth, Jitney shuttle was a reliable service. It picked me up ~20min before the train was due to depart, and it dropped me off at the station with plenty of time to grab a ticket before departure. Gets a good review from me!

4:40 I broke that train in Trenton once, took it out of service for like 8 months, it got a new engine and generator. Also at the RiverLINE, out of the 20 trains we got, only 13 can run, 2 are in upstate NY, one is paper weight (caught fire), 2 were in bad accidents, 1 is undergoing tests after a repower they rarely do, and the final one has too much rust or something, also theyre afraid to start it

philly!!!!

Any news about this project?

Ive always wanted to visit everytime i visit philly its always been closed

W Patco mentioned

Announcer Bernie is a male.

After watching another transit You Tuber I decided to follow their trail that was from NY to Philidelphia, not using Amtrak, but a collection of public lines. The last connection was the PATCO. I took the commuter from Penn NY to Trenton, then the River Line to Walter Reed…then things got a bit sketchy. Transferring from River Line to PATCO at Camden was done with the assistance of a local who was not under substance influence. He will have my eternal thanks. The Camden PATCO station really needs more signage explaining how to purchase a ticket and where…and how to access the subway. It was a fun trip but the Camden station was a bit scary. The great thing was that the PATCO dropped me off a block from my accomodation.

The Path trains and bridges in North Jersey / NY. Have their own Police dept with jurisdiction in both states . Doesn’t Patco have the same type setup ?

Sounds like you need a cough drop

Great video, being a Rowan alumni this would really help the campus. When I was there in the 00s it was disconnected from most of the town. The Landmark was probably the easiest to get to on a regular basis. Woodbury, G City, and the other more dense areas should see a lot more foot traffic.

Can't wait to ride it

Homeless go into subways globally??

They should extend the Patco past 15-16 & Locust via Rittenhouse Square and Penn Medicine Regional Rail Station to the University of Pennsylvania.

Thank you for this video. I grew up in the Lindenwold and used to take both Patco and the AC line everywhere. I think your point about Hamilton. Being the only downtown within walking distance is important. There is so much potential for TOD. When I was a teenager, I would ride this to the old Atco multiplex. That giant empty site is right next to the station and would be amazing if redeveloped.

Ugh I need this

Thank you for touching on the homelessness problem on PATCO! I’ve been taking it since I was a child and it’s incredibly apparent the situation has gotten worse. Because the DRPA pays rent to SEPTA to use the Philadelphia stations, they aren’t able to police outside the mezzanines before paying the fare, and given SEPTA’s chronic lack of funding they aren’t doing much of anything about it. I took the PATCO from Philadelphia during rush hour a few weeks back and was blown away by how many homeless and aggressive panhandlers had made it onto the platform!! My dad took the PATCO to work for years and he never experienced anything like that during his commute. Really hope SEPTA gets its act together because 20 person homeless encampments and panhandlers on the platform is actively keeping people from riding an amazing transit line

One unfortunate thing about PATCO is the 2 mile gap between Ferry Avenue Station and Broadway Station in Camden. It really sucks that there is an entire urban neighborhood that lives right by the train line but is not within reasonable walking distance of a station.

Originally from North Jersey. PATCO is your version of the PATH (Port Authority Trans-Hudson) system, operated by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. 😃👍

One glaring weakness is the lack of bus support from NJT, they need more lines to connect to job centers, and to make some lines run more frequent to make the buses useful.

Half of everyone in the contest (all ages) have made PATCO vids, lol! Anyway, I never knew people called PATCO “the PATCO”. I think this video has definitely confirmed my thoughts that PATCO is kind of the best subway in the country, honestly. Also, are the trains automated still? I heard that they added operators, im not sure

Nice! I always wonder who does the announcement voices for transit systems.

Patco originally planned to have branches to Woodbury and Mt Holly. Those plans should be dusted off and make Patco a truly regional system for south Jersey. The extension to west Philly would be a great idea, and the connection with the Broad-Ridge spur should be re-established for a better regional network .

Patco had been interested in a branch to Glassboro before the GCL really picked up steam, but what about a branch following NJ 38 to Mt Holly. The suburban branches could be every 10-20mins, making the Bridge Line "core" would be every 5-10. Even if getting to reach University City, it should probably terminate at Penn Medicine station since the trollies, busses, and regional rail do decent at covering points west. You can transfer to an Airport Line train here and even walk to 30th St if you wanted instead of transferring at 8th/ Market (which is a hike) at worst

I’m super excited for this!!

Normally I support rail transit. The Atlantic City Line (ACL) is the only rail line in New Jersey that I severely dislike. The routing over the Delair Bridge and North Philly into 30th street station is poor. The length of the line combined with the low population density once you leave Camden County means that frequencies are low. I would rather see the line converted into a BRT line / busway with physical ramps to surrounding roads. This would improve frequency, operational costs, and allow for new service utilizing the busway.

I can agree with you the atrocious road traffic having been to the Pigeon Forge and Gatlinberg area before. There is no political will in Tennessee (outside of maybe Nashville) to build any rail transit. This is caused by a variety of reasons such as low usage/return on investment, cost to acquire a right of way or perceived safety. The population density in Pigeon Forge and Gatlinberg in particular is too low for rail transit as the towns only exist to provide hospitality for out of town (and really out of state) visitors who drive into the area. The best that one should aim for is a BRT service which would still be insufficient without prepayment, favorable signaling and bus only lanes. The lack of land alone would doom any proposed BRT service without considerable material/condition changes.

Aww thanks for the shout-out!

Spent a few days in Cape May and took a deviation to Ocean City on the way back today and knew about the Cape May shuttle and say a sign that said Jitney in Ocean City today near Gilligan's Wonderland (RIP)

Note scathing bitter opposition to the line in towns like Wenonah, Woodbury Heights, Pitman and Mantua Township. Demands to route the line along the rt 55 freeway is only a veneer of bitter opposition to any rail.

NJ Transit's Atlantic City line is the dead last absolute rock bottom in consideration at Amtrak 30th St Station Philadelphia. From information booth employees giving any info about it as if their teeth were being extracted, to Amtrak police actually beginning to lock up the station before the final train of the night departs. I speak from personal experience as a regular commuter. The last Conrail PRSL Budd cars Lindenwold-Atlantic City ran June 30th 1982, the day before the line was "suspended" due to track conditions. Ocean City Cape May trains came off August and October the year before. When service was suspended September 2018 to May 2019, there were times commuters and local officials believed NJ Transit would NEVER reopen the line. Another source of disruption on the line is the Delair bridge between Port Richmond and Pennsauken. River ships have priority and bridge openings can be lengthy.

You failed to mention that across the street from the AC Station is the Tanger Outlet center with many stores and is a corridor to the boardwalk casinos. The optimal project would be to electrify a 2 track line as an extension to the PATCO service.

im from staten island actually and today i did an adventure to atlantic city, since NJT is free LMFAO for the week and WOW. what an adventure, 5 hours of train fun

Great video! I learned several new things!

I honestly can't believe that this line is still around

i somehow never saw/heard of the phlash before... a little late in the season to find out about it, lol. but now that i know it exists, i'll keep an eye out and maybe get a free ride across town someday!

6:14 that bus the 559 also passes by a restaurant in galloway named Tony Beef

Other than a tunnel from Haddonfield to Suburban (adding Haddonfield, Broadway/Walter Rand, and Suburban over 30th St). Also if NJT wants to restore the ROW around Chatsworth as a future phase to the MOM corridor for service to Atlantic City, that might not be so bad

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OK, is this a proposal or is it is process?

Officially, it's Patco Speedline, not High Speed Line

Nicely done! great job editing too.. always a tough challenge.

I think app based companies offering e-scooters and e-bikes such as lime, bird etc. need to take up this market. I don't understand why this hasn't happened yet? I'm considering booking a street legal (up to 35 mph) golf cart ($270 total for 3 days) just to get around easier, it would be nice to be able to take it to Gatlinburg though but the routes I've found so far all exceed 35 mph

The company I work for built the stainless steel benches that are being placed into this station. I personally did a lot of the welding on them so I will definitely have to go check it out once the station opens.