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Thank you for your kind words

If you watched the video you would have seen the self-reflection. If you would have read the comments you would have seen I do admit to my lack of knowledge and quite frankly I do t give a dam. TH-cam is just a money grab any way. This video has opened my eyes to the fact that people will defend there idols to the end with no doubt and no proof. With all your words defending this product I suppose you own one and love it. Good for you. For safety sake be sure to where safety glasses. DS

@@meanmacawwoodshop No, nothing happend. You did not selfreflect. You are acting like a 2nd grade getting caught doing stupid things and blame others for the damage you made. The best part is that you not even recored you lack of basic knowledge, no, you give us the joy of watching in slowmotion too XD You could have educated yourself in 10min how to use a miter saw by RTFM or look up one of hundreds of videos one this platform from people who actually know what they are doing and talking about. But you decided to insult critics, even with "your mom jokes". Childish and primitive. I am not related to shop nation in any way, nor do i even own any product of them, as you pulled out of your fantasy. Be glad you didnt hurt yourself by now... But do us a favor: Stop uploading dangerous representations of your failures. You told already you did not reach out to the manufacturer in the first place, just blaming low quality, while admitting no knowledge at all. This have to be pure satire 🤣

Oh, you did another 30min reaction vid in that case.... Maybe mention this in Video description... Ive watched by now, i do see your point in material. But non the less, you wouldnt have blown it up If you did use your saw correctly. Which you admitted later. Im a Carpenter for 33y, and yes, i came to your Channel to See whats your issue with the dust collector. Not because i want to buy silly shit for 50dollar i can build myself for way less, No, because i thought you found a construction failure and i wanted to know. Abused Tools are very common, i could tell Stories all day😂 You just cant foolproof everything, and im glad not living under stupid laws of the U.S.

I did my original video back in November where I simply gave my opinion of the product. I was not a fan of then that's before it exploded. I was actually planning to remove it from the saw. I also am humble enough to admit my wrong doing and lack of knowledge. I knew what was in the video and I posted it anyway. I felt people should know what they are buying. It is set set of 3 videos that has made step away from TH-cam for a while. I don't want to do it for the money but I don't want to be aggravated for free either.

@@meanmacawwoodshop ya, i see now. obviously you made that 2nd of 3 vid while still emotional about the incident. and got even more emotional in the 3rd because people, including me, blame you for your wrong usage and responsibility. your initial point of material is correct and important to be known by potential buyers. the almost worst way to communicate this is the issue here.

Thanks I love using reclaimed wood

Glad I could help

This seems like the general consensus of people who have bought the product 🤔

I admitted my lack of knowledge of 3d printing and won't be buying any more. I did learn more about it than I wanted, so I guess that's an experience. As far as being pro on any saw, I never claimed that either. I'm still learning from mistakes and the few viewers I have. As far as making it right, I'm good. I'm good with the conversation right here for everyone to as well. I don't have any regrets or anything to hide. Just sharing my opinions. But thanks for chiming it

It was more awkward than heavy , if it had more wait, I would have used longer screws. Or just went with a bigger latch. These are only temporary until I get the ceiling done. Then I'll decide on a nicer, better latch

@@meanmacawwoodshopthat makes sense. I'm looking at adapting this though. Very good idea. Currently using the wooden I beams and it's awkward to push those totes, often heavy as heck, through those channels. I'm older too so a fall off the ladder and I'm ancient history. lol - Cheers!

@MechE11B cheers good luck

It was a long video, but there was a lot to cover. The worst thing about the Bosch is its dust collection. Other than that, I love it. This is my first 3D printed purchase, and I must say it will be my last. The difference between 3d printed and molded parts are vary different. I just wanted to do my best to provide the information.

I'm still working that habit out. But I'm getting better

I do have 2 blue and gold macaws. Charlie and Rosie. Rosie is the mean macaw she hates everyone but me. She loves to snuggle with me. anyone else will loose fingers

Thanks for your support

If you can read down in the comments there are some other options

@@meanmacawwoodshop I appreciate you making this video and I did see other recommendations. I appreciate it. You earned a subscriber.

Thanks I appreciate that

Agreed 👍

Thanks

I can't believe I went without for so long

It cuts straight, that's all care about

That would definitely be a safer way to do it thanks so much

I'm not sure just yet. I think I'm going to upgrade my vacuum first.

Thank you, it's more for construction use than wood shop I guess

Yes he did

+@loligagger85 I do like a good burger with cheese slaw and pickles

I have 2 blue and gold Rosie and Charlie. I have an African grey, ozzy and a Hans macaw named doo little

I know I need to work on that bad habit

I don't feel as if I bashed him, but no, I did not. Nor has he reached out to me. Besides, what would he do. Oh, sorry, I sent you a product I know explodes. Would you like another on the house. Also I have had much luck reaching out to the big youtube woodworking communities. Tried before with no response

You absolutely bashed him. You assumed that he wouldn’t respond to a message from you concerning a product of his. If you watched the videos when he created them, you know he went through a whole bunch of trial and error. You cut crossed which potentially could have put tension on the blade causing it to kick

@paul_hartsel24 I have watched every one of his videos and am subscribed to his channel. I did not reach out out to him because he is aware they explode. He explained it in a video. He also stated that he replaced the product with no charge. The fact is I don't want another one, I didn't like the product before it exploded. The video was not intended for bashing it is intended to inform. He is well aware of the issues with his product. Also, I lifted the blade slightly. That is what caused the kickback, not the crossed arms.

@@meanmacawwoodshop well, you said it yourself you caused the kickback. And I hate to tell you even if it was solid PVC it still would’ve exploded with the force of that blade spinning at the RPMs that it does when a solid chunk of wood hits it.

I've been aware of the reasons that caused the kick back the second it happened. All I can say is make sure you're subscribed. I'm going to do a video addressing all these comments with examples of what a plastic part can withstand when properly made. With all of the support for the product and its maker, I would have to assume you have bought the product, have it installed, and it is working great for you.

I'll agree to that 👍

I'm afraid I have to disagree. The device, by design, was manufactured to collect dust, not withstand something as violent as kickback. One can argue that home windows should block small elements, but if you were to throw a baseball at it, it would shatter. Was the window manufactured incorrectly, or does the blame lie with the baseball and the person who threw it?

There are windows for certain parts of the world that are developed to withstand a 2x4 and bullets

As someone that has 3 years of plastic experience the plastic is great but it needs proper pressure and molding to be able to withstand hits like that .

@@Unluckytoe I see your point but can you agree that when the window manufacturer decided to sell windows that they took on a certain amount of responsibility of safety ? So that if there is a catastrophic failure it limits pain and suffering, and secondly the windows don’t normally break from every day wear and tear

All very good points. Thanks for your concern, and I plan on fixing some of the issues you have pointed out. But you know who the one person in a company OSHA can't fine, it's the owner and in my shop that's me so I can be as safe as I feel comfortable.

What a childish stance. I hope that those watching don't follow your blatant view on safety.@@meanmacawwoodshop

I hope you are right, I have always been bad about my glasses. Ladders, climbing, and a whole bunch of other safety violations. I have never been a great example for safety. I intend to work on changing that going forward. But if some one dose something just because some one else dose it doesn't make it my fault. People are of there own mind and need to stop following blindly

Rather than having this stance on a public platform, why not spend the time to make it a teachable moment. You know by deduction that this video is not about the failure of a dust collection device but the failure to use a tool safely. Again, the dust collection device is just a dust collection device, and nowhere on the maker's site does it state that it will survive a kickback event. If you had created an auxiliary zero clearance fence to mitigate kickback after the fact and showed others how to build it, accepted the blame that your measures caused this incident, and concluded that you should have been wearing the proper PPE when this occurred, folks like me wouldn't have to comment the obvious. @@meanmacawwoodshop

@Unluckytoe have you bought this device? Have you used this device yet? I can only assume that you have set up perfectly for ever single cut you have ever made and never made a cut without all of your ppe. Mabe self evaluation is need elsewhere. I know what I did wrong. New it as soon as it happened but was comfortable enough to share it anyway

That is some awesome information right there

I think it is a habit left over from my old miter station. I used to brad nail scraps of wood on the right as stop blocks. Now I still like my stop block on the right.

+@TankR I am so sorry I missed this comment yesterday. this is the most accurate informational statement I've seen in 2 days. thank you.

Ive worked in a shop with a submicronresolution $160,000 super fancy 3d printer. And even THAT, 93% of the stuff that came off of it, we would mold and cast out of a more durable material. Im confident that with some experimentation with Smooth-On blends a proper firmness urethane could be found (possibly even modified with a glass microbead filler. Another thing we would do a lot casting parts for animatronics and costumes), a 2 piece silicon jacket with fiberglass backing mold can be made (with like 10 of em in one mold), write the smoothon kit number and required AB mix on the outside, and BAM! need to make some? Dont waste electricity, risk a spaghetti monster mishap, risk burning the house down if the printer goes nuclear in the night, AND avoid the potentially noxious fumes printing out the same damn part every order! The technology is best suited for rapid iteration of designs. At best they should be finished, smoothed, and casted most of the time. And at worst used in a lost plug casting. But it kills me, and drives me up the wall every time I see these wannabe makers who call themselves engineers because they can read a set of digital calipers wasting time, energy, and material doing things in literally the laziest, worst, slapdash way possible....while chasing unrealistic accuracy and resolution ideals.... Like, yeah, its cool there are anti resonance mitigations now giving us smoother prints and such....that doesn't mean you can print bolt threads youre not going to have to tap out anyways, and shouldn't trust in the first place! I love 3d printing, its awesome. I just cannot abide these wienies whos day falls apart at the mention of microwave fish or pineapple pizza flaunting their ego around like they know something when all they're doing is parroting someone else's blog post talking about someone else's blog post feigning intelligence in the field (and the sycophants mesmerized by their swinging bologna...) [Sigh] ....but yeah man....yeah..... Also, safety squints my guy. And be sure to manage your motion stresses on hoses and cords. That being said, there is no way a properly cast/molded part like that would have flexed far enough to catch the blade. Regardless of hose or cable tug. No way. Inferior part, plain and simple. Id ask for your money back.... Or at least a solid filled replacement with wider tolerances around the blade teeth....

@zombieregime In the first video I did on the product, I explained that I did not like it for several reasons not related to the construction of the part. I was aware of the 3D printed parts and the possible effects or a kickback. I was not aware that I would have to completely change the way I use my saw. Thanks to me posting this video, I have learned a lot. One thing being dewalt has a recall for a similar defect. Also, there will be no room for a small channel like mine to thrive with a truthful factual opinion against largely followed channels. But that's fine. I'm not going anywhere and plan to keep putting out content on good and bad tools for the low-budget average weekend woodworker. Your comments have given me a lot of valuable information and are greatly appreciated. Thank you

Yeh I know that's why I said they need to Ingection molded with lots of pressure to fill the voids.

@@meanmacawwoodshop he could have printed it without voids if he wanted to, he chose not to to save on time and material. It's a setting in the printer software. It's called infill percentage. If it's 100% then there are no voids. I donno if 100% would have fared a lot better against a kickback or blade strike though. It might have broken less, but it would still be a broken part in need of replacement. So I donno if it was cheaply done or just made only as strong as it needed to be to withstand the kinds of forces the material could be expected to bear.

@commentsonthetube14 I'm not sure any 3D printed parts are going stand up to and force of this nature. Maybe I went about it the wrong way. My intention was to inform people to beware of 3D printed parts in an application such as this. Where an impact is eventually inevitable. 3D pointing has ist places, but I don't think on machinery is one

@@meanmacawwoodshop yeah, I'd get it for a kickback, but it didn't look like that's what happened. It shouldn't have flexed to the point where it touched the blade.

Agreed, I guess I'm just going to have to work on my miter saw technique in the future lol

Can't even use the stock fence with th SN collection system. It catches. So your forced to use a short home-made one not vary convenient. As far as the off cut was not big enough for the factory hold down to reach. But it would have been big enough for the factory fence if I could have use it I will be doing a follow up on the video to address the comments. So subscribe so you can see it when it come out. As well as watch the other video I did on this product

Factory chute is still good. And has taken a few just like it

Yes 3D printed

@@meanmacawwoodshop Just because it's 3D printed doesn't mean it's PLA. I does look like it shattered like it were PLA. However, the site says it's PETG. I wouldn't have expected it to fail that way. Did you perhaps get one specifically saying it was PLA? I could easily print that in ABS and it wouldn't fail that way. That said, injection ABS with some glass fill will always be stronger.

I must be misunderstanding. What is PLA? I thought you were referring to PLAstic. Yes, petg is what it is made of. As far as that goes, that is 90% of the material I injection mold every day. That is one of the reasons I bought it. My experience with injection molding PETG led me to believe it is a durable , strong, and very impact resistant material. When properly molded, that is. Glass filled abs would be awesome too

@@meanmacawwoodshop PLA is a specific type of plastic. It's easy to print, so more common in lower end printers. But it has a low melting point and is hard but easy to crack/shatter. PETG is a bit easier to print than ABS but should have similar characteristics.

That is interesting, I have never heard of it. It's not even on my list of materials. I'm going to have to look into it more. I've been in plastics for 25 years is it new.

Agreed, but the factory chute is still fine after 4 years and it has taken a few shot like this

Operation errors or not.. Chutes should not blow up like this.

They should not

Just a thought, how many tool companies research and develop products to stand UT to people like me. The factory chute has taken a few of these and has stood up the the impact just fine. That's all I'm saying

Agreed. I'd also point out that those procedures aren't there to protect the integrity of the factory dust collector. That flying projectile of wood is just as likely to be sent into your body as the dust collector is. Be safe.

They create user manuals for the consumer to follow and provide proper guidelines for safe usage. Again, with safety in mind, "Has taken a few of these" only solidifies my original points. Taking the time to properly secure your material (Regardless of the tool used) eliminates kickback. Secondly, you should consider wearing proper PPE, as you're fortunate that a piece of that PETG did not fly into your eyes. My one bothersome issue is watching woodworkers continually record themselves doing things incorrectly without regard for their safety. When something bad happens, they dare to refrain from self-reflecting. If a new woodworker watches videos like this, they too may think it's okay to perform their work similarly.@@meanmacawwoodshop

@@Unluckytoe What has this got to do with the chute blowing up?

@@MechE11B everything

Amen to that

Most of us , most of the time 🤣

I am no expert by any form of definition. What I am is someone who uses tools. Not always correctly. I mean I have wrench hammers, drill hammers, I even have Chisel prybar 😂