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19:30 that KDA 21/3... Yeah, that's one of the issues on display.

15:50 False. Better players will get more farm.

14:42 good point

Gigantic keeps dying not bc it's "too high skill" or w/e, it's because it's horribly mismanaged.

~100 Steam players Going B2P was a tone deaf decision.

Gank crews are killing this game for me atm. It feels like the only people who are playing now almost two months later are stacked crews. It's not like they's just 'playing with their friends for fun' either, they're trying so hard. Every game I've played recently has been sweaty af and it sucks for solo queuers like me.

Been playing mobas since Dota was a mod and have been following Gigantic since its first release. I think a lot of what you said is true, but the sad reality is that the mentality of PvP for the average person in the west has shifted. 10+ years ago long term rewards by improving at a game were the standard. CS, Dota, LoL have high barriers to entry but were the standard for PvP. Those games still have a huge following but I'd think that is more because of their legacy. Releasing a new successful PvP game is all about easy play and quick rewards. It's why Overwatch 2 changed so much from Overwatch 1 (killed the game for me). Why heavy RnG reliant games like apex legends and CoD warzone. You don't need to be better than the other guy if you can get lucky with loot once in a while. Or counter someone by just switching characters instead of learning how they play and then outplaying them. Nowadays someone that has played 20hrs of a game demands they be as good as someone who has spent 150hrs. Your right. Gigantic doesn't pander to that and it's a huge reason it hasn't seen much success. It's also why there hasn't been a new real eSports title made in the last decade.

Imo the biggest problem of the game is inherent to the era it comes from. Since the mid 2010s, continuing until now, there's been an idea that players only play shooters for multiplayer PvP. This allowed game companies to entirely focus on the multiplayer, which technically reduced costs. However, what was left out of the equation was that people often used PvE as a way of getting used to how characters work in a combat environment, so by not including a PvE campaign or Co-op missions, you're actually losing a lot. This is especially true of games that have very complex characters and mechanics such a Gigantic. PvE is also a environment that is a lot less pressure filled than PvP, which a lot of players use for casual experiences when they want to play the game but don't feel like try-harding it in PvP. I know the re-release wasn't going to have a campaign or anything since that's obviously a larger scope project. It's just one of those things that would have really helped with player retention in the initial phase.

You should adjust your game volume and your own voice. I can hear the game more than your voice. Awsome video btw! Good takes

All I got to say is. I’d rather play a game that’s enjoyable being a tank (OW2 made that a pain. Ik there fixing that as of recently but idk if it’ll rlly be that impactful.) that is asking for 20 dollars not 50/60. And when you buy it everything in the game is right there for you to earn in game. To me all it needs is some time to grow Like a tree needing some water and sunlight.

You say cyberpunk was boring which validats me because i could never play more then an hour of it without wanting to play something else, What single player games do you think are fun in the modern age??

After playing a lot on steam i ended up buying another copy on ps5 and its night and day, that shit really crashes after most games, then the ps5 wont turn off so i gotta unplug it. That being said playing this game on the dualsense is so cool, they utilize the remote like its a PlayStation studio game and i love it, all the vibrations and haptic feedback feels so cooll

I really like this format, keep it up!

You should do a guide for Tyto

The sound is a bit loud for ur voice. But otherwise u speak slow understandable and good. Not a huge hk fan but a good guide

Not a hk player, but I really appreciate the video. Hope it picks up

I didn't know anything about this game until a month before re-release. I saw a video explaining what it it was and it had my attention. I bought it the day it dropped on PS5 and fell in love! It's amazing and I experienced multiple crashes every time I'd play. I'm still chomping at the bit to play more. Sadly I can't endure the relentless crashes. I gave it a couple weeks and prayed that it had been fixed, it hasn't. I could see this game being one of my all time favorites but I worry that it won't be fixed for 3 months and I'll forget about it. What's worse is everyone else on PS5 will too and it feels like this game really needs players and I know PS5 has players. Please Gigantic make this a top priority, for all the fans. ✌️

Cheers

Oh love this video tbh, it’s very accurate I’m a pretty diligent gamers so I love getting over the skill gap but my friends will find trouble grasping onto all of the mechanics but it Dosent take away from the originality at all I just hope the devs foster the game more

I am trying so hard to bring people into this game. It is quite the ask when you have 5 stack premades that not only stomp on the opposition with no chance of losing, but take a game that should be over in 10 minutes and stretch it out into a 40 minute "I can't leave my airship, but these people aren't even trying to win" fest. It is like people want this game to die.

I don't understand the "tryharding" thing, people are just playing the game, Why wouldn't you be playing the best way you can? Some people have fun by minmaxing and playing well, some people play casually. It is what it is. You said it yourself, ranked isn't a thing yet, so what are these people supposed to do?

i wanted to play it but i dont want to buy a game that might not be alive in a year

I feel like the game would get more attention if they didn't puppet it's corpse around, the game deserves a dedicated team to breathe new life into it but instead they're running a skeleton crew, just make sure the game runs so they can sell it. Gigantic was a game that was proud of its depth and creativity, now it's a cash grab that doesn't plan on promoting itself, fixing bugs or producing new content. It's still fun and I'm glad I've picked it up again but I'm mega sad that this is how things are. My friend who got the game with me to play together has already stopped playing, sad times

I love the game, the main technical problem it has for me is that the voice lines are muted for the heros and guardian for some reason, i play on a series s but the xbox one version do crash alot of times, the queu times are good now on console, i think you are right about the game diyng in 6 months and thats pretty sad.

Hi, new player here. &Kills and doing damage doesn't feel as impactful as I hoped it'll be. - I don't feel like I contribute to anything, - There's no high stakes for me I don't understand it when people say, 'it's one of the best games they ever played'. I'll consider it mid honestly

As a new player, I'd say the Dead by Daylight generators actually have a pretty decent comparison in the power spots, it's really easy for a new player to just get one done if other players are distracted in a fight or at another location. I've gotten so many points when I play with my friends that way, just being opportunistic xD

i really think your game just fucking sucks. it really seems like youve got this idea in your head that "all gamers nowadays are too shallow and only want simple games so gigantic cant compete." theres literally so many games with unique mechanics and depth that have come out, new and old. league of legends, hades, baldurs's gate, any fromsoft game, stardew valley, terraria, etc etc. despite some of those games having higher skill ceilings and harder learning curves, theyre still popular. players ARE willing to overcome those challenges, so you acting like "its just too hard" is a cope. no one wants to play gigantic because it just sucks and its boring. all of your arguments regarding other video games are in a vacuum. "hitting minions is so easy." in a vacuum, no shit. when you take into account your lane opponent, the enemy jungler, the champion matchup, your champion specifically, it gets a little more complicated. it also seems to me like you've got this really strange superiority complex over other gamers because your game is just so "complex and unique." "my game more complicated = better" is not the home run argument you think it is. inversely, a game having simple gameplay also doesn't make it inherently bad. maybe a capitvating story is what gets people coming back. maybe its the art direction or the characters. you claiming that games that don't "live up to the complexity of gigantic are just bad" is genuinely hysterical and really shows your lack of media comprehension for any kind of storytelling. gigantic isn't going to die because its too complicated, or because people want simple baby games. its going to die because the game fucking blows and people want good, enjoyable, and replayable games with genuinely interesting characters / story. at the end of the day, video games are meant to be fun and enjoyed, and will be enjoyed regardless of if you think that game is objectively bad compared to gigantic. if people find the games fun, theyll play them regardless of some complex mechanic. if the game isnt fun, then it wont be played, even if it has depth (i.e. gigantic). i cannot stress enough that there isn't something wrong with gamers, your game is just not fun, no captivating story, and no interesting character designs for the majority of players. (and as i already mentioned, it has absolutely nothing to do with some perceived complexity. players WILL overcome complexity inherent to the game theyre playing if its fun.)

Abstraction is useless games dead to me as much as i like it.

Game itself is so much fun. I play on PS5 and it has so many issues the game is basically unplayable. I will say im level 130 but i basically quit after the last patch didnt dix PS5 issues.

I definitely feel like a more dedicated tutorial/guide section, similar to the Skullgirls training sections, would really help rescue this game's new playerbase: you have a mandatory guide on game basics, then you have little bite-sized optional guides on 'managing stamina', 'jump attacks', 'dodge attacks', 'creature upgrades', 'building focus', etc. Most of that stuff is *technically* intuitive, People know you build focus by dealing and taking damage like in Overwatch or Paladins, but how many people think to go solo a creature for a little while not to kill it, but just to build some extra focus to finish out that 3/4 full bar? Most players know that jump attacks exist, but how many know about the cripple effect on backstabs? How many know it's ONLY backstabs? I certainly didn't for a while, and I wasted a ton of jump attacks trying to cripple opponents to their face. Does the game actually state anywhere that every character takes more damage when hit in the back because armor values are different in different places? I definitely agree with you; getting over the base hump of the learning curve to reach the, point where you actually feel like you're playing the game, rather than just flailing around hitting buttons, is the biggest problem this game is facing... Outside of the technical issues, which ARE getting fixed, just kinda slowly. It's been almost 100% functional for me on PC since about a week after launch, but that first week really kneecapped its momentum. I would also really just love a private server browser like TF2 has so that the core community can keep playing without going to the extreme lengths they did for the original version (and also potentially allowing for a modding scene to develop), but even if we don't get that and the game shuts down in a year or less, I am personally just going to enjoy the time I do have with this game. I made the mistake of leaving the game as soon as the server shutdown was announced back in 2017, and I have regretted it ever since. Nothing lasts forever, and it's okay if I payed 20 bucks for a 1-year pass to play this game as much as I want. I honestly wouldn't consider that a bad investment under normal circumstances, and for the revival of my favorite multiplayer game of all time? It's a steal.

Not to throw hate or shade. But as a new player no content creator has made something like a beginner guide which makes it feel like im stumbling blind. This game is so unique that is genuinely alienating. Especially the seemingly low solo kill potential (the ability to kill some1 1v1) Idk what can change that but i just thought i would give my thoughts as some1 who never played previously

I Love this game. Im gonna play it until the servers are dead.

You had until you shit on Cyberpunk... I played it on release, and on PC it didn't crash as much as console, and the whole story is one of the best, going even higher on Phantom Liberty, and with 2.0 it fixed the lack of build variation, and right now you can go crazy play styles. It is a great game. If you dont like RPGs or cyberpunk setting, fine, but it is a great game. And while Gigantic has more depth than Overwatch and some other mainstream titles, it has less of a depth that some games that died exactly because too much depth, so depth is not just a thing to add non-stop, or the game will die, like Battlerite died.

That’s because Gigantic is a moba and people didn’t really get that at first now they are.

I bought the game on steam just to support the development since my laptop cant really run it. I just hope it either 1. Doesnt die before I get a new setup 2. Goes free to play so I can play it again on my xbox

Can't blame people for having friends to play with. I can never blame people for being in a 5 stack. The only fix is having different queues for solo players and 5 stack, but that's not possible with this low player base.

You keep saying console players are having it rough, but through my experience I've had one crash on xbox ever while several of my friends on pc have had a way worst time and straight up haven't played since launch. P.s. I'm pretty sure the console problems are on Playstation

Gigantic cash grab

When I see the game to be 20 bucks and no micro transactions, I felt already doubtful. Maintaining servers and such, It's not a viable. I hope they can keep a legacy for the game like allowing lan servers for private games and such.

Great time capsule. Not the tier list format thar I was expecting. I was waiting to hear your opinion on Xenobia since she was my main and I feel that she is overlooked and very strong.

Im glad you pointed out the incredible character design and personality in Gigantic. The artstyle is also top notch. The closest game to Gigantic in my eyes is Paladins but I doubt anyone else would make that comparison. I'd have to take a long time to explain the similarities.

I enjoyed the game but i have to amit i refund the games due to match making and other issues like i don't really like sitting in qu for 40 to 20 mins for a single game like i i didn't mind spending 20$ but there are to many issues at the moment i will re buy it in a few month's once crashing and weirdo match making is fix Edit: I just wanted to add i play when the original version released i play for maybe a few months i think but it so werid how the games seems to have more issue now then the og released

Gigantic is a thinking person's game people who played cod and the like clearly don't have the capacity

I made it 14 minutes into this video and have zero idea of what point you're trying to make. You just kind of go off an elitist style rant about how "mechanically dense, high skill games" like gigantic do terribly and burn while "low skill games like COD" do well Dude, moba's are a hardcore niche and almost all moba's are free to play. When you take an already small sector like that and add a paywall you have even less players. And when the game is completely broken on launch you lose a lot from the already small player base. I haven't bought a COD game since the first modern warfare reboot but what I will tell you is the reason people play COD games is the game feel. There's not another shooter out there to this day that genuinely feels as satisfying as COD. There are plenty of super complicated and mechanically deep games that get super popular. It's all up to luck and having a fully working solid game that spreads through word of mouth.

i want u to keep in mind if a game flop as a f2p it wont work out by rerelease with price on it no one will trust it, if ur game flop as f2p just make new one just move on from this one or change it entirely and rerelease it as f2p but with huge changes, multiversus will flop again cuz its the same issue mark my words

I'm OG player and everyday I wanna enter to game less and less every game filled with bugs,lag,crashes and game doesnt have a good power scale thats why tanky characters and supports dominates to meta.

next time, either turn up the mic or turn down the gameplay; I loved the sentiment, but it was hard to literally hear you

People playing "meta" is just the normal evolution for a team based games,. The bigger issue with gaming nowadays is all the youtubers/tw players with implementing tier lists of heroes/guardians and "give advices" to ppl so their view point of a game becomes so narrow and u start to see the same stuff all over just because xy person said its true. Instead to let ppl figure it out themselves. they take that wow moments away. That leads to: 1. Experiment phase is shorten (fun part)

Whether you like COD or not they have done an exceptional job of protecting their lower skill playerbase, there is value in understanding how they did this

You know i feel the same. I see people who are just playing like their life defends on the game. Just abusing weird physics to gain a speed boost on a wall or something....i cant even tell what the hell they did. Getting someone to perfect throw a nade around a corner and the entire team is jumping one player and defeating them in 2 seconds. Like.... it took me an hour to get into the game, can i just play? I loved this game when i was a teen. I had no idea how to run a private server, or i would have tried....im so happy that the game got a 2nd chance.... the last thing i want is to see it die again. Just let people have fun. The game has barely been out for its 2nd run...give it half a year before you go full esports every match.