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Can someone push the red button already?! 😅

The matrix will adjust suffering quotient after only a year of starving it. It needs physical slaves and loosh cows. Mooo

Down with systems!!!!

FACTS!!!!!

Luigi served the highest calling of humanity

Much love Amanda! Cheers!

ca. 30:00 - The talk about good and bad. My definition of those terms is a little different from the mainstream. TL;DR: Good is not the absence or reduction of bad; it's the adding of pleasure or other benefit. Bad is the opposite. Also, the need to reduce bad supersedes the need to increase good (especially what I call "surplus benefit", more benefit needed for a realistically humane quality of life). Further, when I zone out on the couch or in bed, "staring into space", I feel neither good nor bad. I noticed when in those moods that I have no need for good, yet do retain the need for bad. So ultimately goodness doesn't actually matter, it's a 2nd or 3rd level concern, tops.

Rats and mice included in wildlife suffering they suffer feel pain have emotions humans are cruel sadistic to wards them they did not ask to be here just like us not there fault they were born being a rat mice

Congratulation OldFan! To a hundred more this year! i am open to hear more about E 2.0, i just do not want to call myself an Efilist 2.0 thou! may you have a long and healthy 2025

Great job, Amanda! I would like to suggest Marcia Drut-Davis. She is not an antinatalist but a member of the childfree movement. I want to recommend her because she is a witty and wise woman. See her appearance in My So-Called Selfish Life.

You are gorgeous! ❤❤❤ Please never stop doing your podcast 😂

Excellent presentation .

You never fail to push our giggle button Amanda! Congrats on 100 episodes and looking forward to more! 😻😻🐾🐾⚡⚡

disturbing but pointless. we all already know you lot want to blow up the whole planet (without asking for the consent of the people living on it, naturally) so i dont see why you need to do this. is this just a way for you to smear a veneer of further justification onto your rancid ideology? you people arent fooling anyone with your sophistry, and you are destined to fail.

I like hearing this articulate ethical reasoning happening. ✅

Very ontologically immature perspective. Leveraging human rational for a natural and divine process. Sentience is not a burden but an alley for consciousness that is the route to enlightenment.

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I also enjoyed this edifying podcast. I’m reading your book again - Antinatalism, Extinction, and the End of Procreative Self-Corruption. An excellent read. This dovetails quite nicely with a mythicism book I’m currently reading where there is a quote at the beginning, ‘If God is not it’s all for naught.’ Thank you!

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Glad you're an antinatalist. Jesus christ.

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This is clearly someone who did not have friends growing up

Anti-Natalism is a Jewish conspiracy to destroy white demographics. I would not be surprised if either of these people were Jewish

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This is enjoyable to listen to. Thanks.

🎶 And the Cat's in The Cradle and The Silver Spoon 🎶

Count me in the camp as someone who is quite worried about this shift in focus/definition of anti-natalism! Grounding AN axiologically on 'needs' and 'existence' would be fairly difficult to defend. One could define AN in such a manner, but for it to be one of axiology/ethic-driven, is going to be quite quite difficult. Most ethical framework that try to contend intrinsic value in something aside from felt experience struggle to do so, and often have to invoke something like God and divine commands, contracts to coordinate autonomous agents, or deontological principles -- all of which I would argue are fundamentally smuggling in the (dis)value of suffering to ground said principle. I'll be interested to see where you go with this, as you will have to go pretty deep in meta- and normative ethics to do so, but I overall am worried about this approach. Fwiw, I also think it could muddy the waters of AN, what is is and should be, and could inadvertently do more harm to sentient beings, which is where I think any *ethical* focus should be. (If one wanted to make the case that AN isn't a purely ethical one, then I think that's unfortunate but at least could be made consistent). All that said, need everyone who has thought carefully about their ideas to continue pushing the boundaries of the dialogue and this space, so will look forward to the papers coming out! :)

My parents were reckless gamblers; and so were yours.

Hello hello hello

Antinatalism is kinda gay

Philosophies/Ideologies against the existence of sentient lives are all delusional, rubbish and pointless BS! I have never seen any antinatalists and efilists who actually want to live alone in a world without other sentient lives. These people do always make excuses when I ask them why they aren't living alone in the wild without other sentient lives.

Congratulations on the hard earned century!!

Thank Ms. Amanda. I am sorry but life is impersonal…I am an antinatalist who believes that life is only suffering to a particular being…sentient or NOT…suffering is a part of being alive…as well as pleasure. Human being are tragic in that we complicate natural suffering. The problem in Efilism is that it is problem to human beings linguistically…no language, no problem. I am an antinatalist the way I am because I am a particular type of being…history makes it clear basic antinatalism even efilism, is not a common position and need not be common to all human beings. Good luck for the next 100 episodes.

Congratulations on the 100th episode! The podcast really is a precious thing for the antinatalist community ;)

It's demanding work and you do it so well!

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You "Ive been doing some thinking" Past you: "well I can tell by the look its not going to be good news" Love it!😄 For me (at least in my mind) plants can suffer...they just dont suffer like you or I or other creatures. Plants fight each other for territory and resources. Winners and losers.

Thank you so much Amanda, for all the time and effort you invested in this, and for openness, curiosity, generosity and pleasantness that is reflected in every moment in all 100 episodes. What a tremendous achievement! Can't wait for the next 100!

Thank you Amanda for all your work! It is very much appreciated.

🎉🎉🎉🎉 reverse biocentric! Absolutely brillant

thanks Amanda for your amazing work.

You're the best, Amanda.

😆 🤣 😂 Love this, Amanda!

i'm tryna remember why i subscribe to this shite jk. love u any update on the modern mystic archives? i need 'em. i wanna train a language model with them

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🙏Push the button. Push all the buttons until there are no buttons left. 🔎🦠🕳

The janitor is right. What the janitor's opponent is saying is like saying the existence of a piece of art would have value if it was somewhere no one would ever see it. If that has value, I don't know what "value" means. To say a plant has needs is a shorthand way of describing a mechanism, by analogy to the functions of sentient feelings. No value concepts would be comprehensible, and would never have developed, without sentience. If you think there is value, negative or positive, in life that has no capacity to feel, independently of how it might affect life that does have the capacity to feel, you are projecting your own feelings onto something that could not possibly be in a negative or positive state. Without sentience, life is just another physical mechanism, like many other physical mechanisms that don't manifest anything bad or good. Why differentiate, in terms of value, between life without sentience and rock formation in the Earth, the gases of Jupiter, or countless other physical mechanisms that you're not arguing should not exist?

Incredible work, Amanda. Thank you.

Congratulations and well done to all Amandas involved in making of this episode :) I’m still slowly making my way through some of the earlier episodes and really enjoying all of them so I’m glad that there will be more to come in 2025!