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It certainly is very good value. I find I get cold a few degrees below freezing but with that liner it was fine . 👍

@huntonthetrails i take it its unzipped like that for getting in/out and you zip it up when you get in

It is 😁

Well toasty might be pushing it ! If the weather was not settled I would not use the Lanshan 1 and go for my Vango F10. Heavier, but more comfortable. 👍

Yes, the weight was good. However, if the weather was anything but settled, I would use my Vango tent which would add 2+kg to the weight .

Yeah, the stove was not good enough at such low temperatures. I somewhere have an MSR whisperlite that i need to dig out. Heavier, but more reliable in the cold.

Hmmm not sure. When my sleeping bag has been damp at the bottom it has always been from condensation. I have used the bivvy bag several times now and never had a problem with the sleeping bag being damp. I do make sure before i get in the sleeping bag that I dry my feet ( have a mini towel ) and put on dry socks. I find this helps get my feet warmer more quickly and helps with any potential condensation.

Cheers Paul. I will check out the alternative stove although I do have an MSR whisperlite somewhere that I probably need to get back in action. 👍

Thanks David. Glad to know the videos are helping. Its a tough, but rewarding route. As it turned out, if I had not lost the tent and continued, the next week of weather was pretty wet and miserable. So, in hindsight maybe a good thing. Best of luck. 😁👍

Yes, going to continue to use it. Beats taking the car. 😁

Thank you. Really glad you enjoyed it. 😁

Yes, its a great time of the year if you get clear cold days. I love being in the hills on those type of days. 👍

Did I mention that ? 😁

Funnily enough my wife said the same thing. 👍

Cheers Mark, thanks for commenting. 👍

Cheers Phil. Just subscribed to you too and will check out your St Cuthberts Cave video. I ran past it when I did the St Cuthberts Way Ultra, so will be interested to see it. 👍

Hi Craig. Thank you. Its a sleeping bag in a bivvy bag. I have another video out on Wednesday about the kit I took on this trip.👍

@huntonthetrails cool. Do you show the sleeping bag

Yes, I go through the sleep system I used. I've been trying to go lighter weight than in previous years. Not all successful !

@@huntonthetrails cool. Can i comment on the sleeping bag on this other video please? It wont be negative

Of course you can and say what you like about it ( I do ) ....all opinions count !

Thanks. Yes it did ok, but I wouldn't want to use it in winter in bad weather.

Thank you so much for commenting. I would strongly encourage you to do so. Its a marvellous trail through such a variety of landscapes that will always keep your interest. A great adventure 😁

Certainly, deep snow makes it very hard going, but very enjoyable in such beautiful weather 👍

It certainly was hard in places, but the weather was great and the area fabulous.

Cheers, glad you enjoyed it. I'm probably as wrinkly as an old boot too !

Cheers Dave. It was great to be out in the Dales in proper winter conditions, it doesn't happen very often these days. I'm sure you would have coped, just got to take your time. Although it was really cold, I prefer this to damp just above freezing conditions. Catch up with you soon. 👍

Cheers Phil. Had it a while ( hover air x1 ) but probably used it more on this trip as no wind !

@@huntonthetrails I thought it must be that, I couldnt see any other footprints around so I was sure you were on your own, but some of the shots just had to have some kind of gadgetry involved! Theyre amazing drones, so clever. I really enjoyed this video Andy, thanks.

@@PhilWaud Yes, although the batteries do not like the cold !

@@huntonthetrails Yeah, constant problem.I put my spare batteries in an seperate bag and they go in the sleeping bag with me. When Im walking, I keep them in my inside pocket. My drone has removable batteries so its a bit easier.

@@PhilWaud Same here, gopro and drone in inside pockets.

Cheers. Hope it was useful 👍

Cheers Mark. The ground was pretty challenging. Its rough bouldery terrain. It would have been great to get some views but, you have to take what you get on these backpacking trips. It could have been a lot worse ! Looking forward to your adventures in 2025.

@@huntonthetrails A pleasure, Andy. Yeah, challenging but you were cool with it. Views how or not Andy - as you say we'll take what comes. 2025 - I hope yo be back out on trails. Peace.

I used the 3 season inner. Worked fine for me. I pitched the tent with the rear facing the wind so rarely got any wind blowing through the inner. For summer the mesh also m adeit feel more airy and less confined.

Thank you. The pack was a Salomon active 8 which as it suggests has an 8 litre capacity. It's really comfortable.

Glad you enjoyed it. Its the first time I have walked in this area (apart form Nine Standards on the coast to coast). As you say, the train stations give some great accessibility. I intend on exploring the area more.

Cheers. Glad you enjoyed it. 👍😁

Cheers Dave. I do remember that Simpsons episode. One of many good ones. The north pennines are great for open wild spaces and don't attract the crowds. Catch up with you soon. Cheers 👍

Oh nice one. I hope the video reminded you of the rain and mud 😁

@ it did same again next September for me 😅

Me too ! See you there....

Cheers, glad you enjoyed it. Yes, so many honeypot areas but even more off the beaten track where you can find solitude and peace.

Cheers Dave. It's an area that I think I have underappreciated over the years and only recently have started to explore more. In fact, I had never been to Dentdale until I did the Fellsman ultramarathon in April. I do intend on going back and making use of the station stops on the railway to plan more trips.

I do remember its threatened closure. The station stops give great access to many places which I intend on using more. Thank goodness it is still here.

You must. It would be easy to do a walk linking the stations with some great wild areas between them. It's great backpacking country as well, as the ascents and descents are generally quite gentle.

@@huntonthetrails Tracy and I have actually done that Andy, train to Dent, walked along to the village and stayed at Condor Farm campsite, then walked to Ribblehead via Whernside, only just making the last train home for school in the morning! I really must try it again, like you say there are lots of options. Thanks!

Yes Garside station also looks in a great spot. The mountain marathon I mentioned in this video I did with Chris Jones about 15 years ago. I remember the overnight camp was near Garside station and I thought at the time it was a lovely valley.

Many thanks, glad you enjoyed it. 👍

Thank you Mark. This section brought back a lot of good memories and it was great to traverse these hills. It a fabulous section with some great views. Cheers 😁👍

@@huntonthetrails A pleasure, Andy. Good to hear of the memories and to see the epic views. I could here the awesomeness in your voice. Peace.

Cheers. Thanks for commenting. I hope it was useful 👍

Hi. It is a tough walk if you are considering doing it all in one go. I summed it up at the time in Part 11 at the end. It is the hardest trail I have done and I have done a few. There are not many easy days. You could break it into smaller stages and take more time, but even then its going to be hard. It will be easier if the weather is good and April/May sounds like a good time to be doing it. Fell free to ask me more questions if any come to you and good luck. 😁👍

I am not sure. You get lots of space for the weight, maybe a Lanshan 2....its 300g heavier but loads of room and slightly easier to pitch. Same quality materials. I did get quite good at pitching this tent by the end ( about 5 mins ) but getting the tension right on uneven ground can be tricky. I do take your point about it stretching, its why getting the pitch right is important.👍

I share your concerns! I'm off bikepacking in Wales again in June, last year I used my Phoxx 2 which was great, but pack size and weight ain't ideal! It will be my first time using my Lanshan 1, I've made a few mods and can pitch it quite well. But ideal pitches where I'm going are almost impossible to find! My Phoxx 2 is quite forgiving, the Lanshan isn't! This has led me to think about the Vango helium UL2 as a better option, have you entertained that idea?

@@mokotramp I had a vango f10 xenon prior to my lanshan2. I think the materials on the Lanshan are better ( poles bent and seam split on vango tent ). With the Vango you get the advantage of a freestanding tent which will pitch easier on rough ground. For me though, the weight and materials of the lanshan 1 outweigh this for backpacking in 3 seasons.

Cheers. I agree with what you say. You cannot argue with the quality of these tents, particularly for the price. Any issues tend to be due to the design, but because of that design you are getting a lightweight backpacking tent. I'm still to see anything better without spending a serious anount of money.

Thats interesting. Agreed, the Lanshan 2 is palacial for 1 person. Its roomy enough for 2 people. I was surprised how good I found the living space in the Lanshan 1 on this trip. Sure its compact, but that brought its advantages. There were 2 pitches I used which would have been too small for a Lanshan 2. Both great tents though. 😁

There are two versions of the Lanshan 1. The older was much smaller than the newer, which is 230 cm long. Was is the newer one you tried?

@@archi-mendel That is a good question. I bought it 1 year ago, so not sure if it was the newer one. Just thinking about my xtherm pad. Its 183cm long and it certainly did not take up the length of the inner. So mybe 230 is about right.

@huntonthetrails probably the newer one. My is like 3 years and it's long.

The 1. Lighter, smaller footprint, just as robust and enough room. Both great tents though. 👍

I have the lanshan 2 myself and like yourself I rate it, tried the pro and lasted one night lol. Been toying with the idea of getting the 1 for a while now and you’ve just helped me out so thanks for your reply.

Lanshan 2 Pro Slightly heavier but so much more room Also very sturdy in bad weather

I just prefer the 2 skin tents, especially when condensation is bad. But, we each have our own preferences which I gues is why these different tent options are available.

Let me answer your question: 3fulgear is different from other Chinese tent factories. It only produces its own styles and does not design and produce other styles for other brands. Therefore, the employees are highly skilled and the workmanship of the products is guaranteed. Other Chinese tent factories have to produce many styles of tents for many brands, which is not a good thing for the workers. Then it is impossible for them to be better than 3fulgear in sewing details.

@@camperlists7090 I didnt ask a question and Im not sure what you mean. 3FUL gear (and Flames Creed which they also produce) in my experience use top quality materials (in terms of their specification and performance) and are manufactured to a high standard.

100% agree. I did two 500 mile backpacking trips with my Lanshan 2 and it was fantastic. They have to be pitched under tension and all the seams / attachment points / zips hold up brilliantly.

@@PhilWaud As their distributor, I visit their factory once a year.

@@camperlists7090 Ah, now I have some context! I love the 3FULgear stuff, Ive a Lanshan, a Quidian Pro, a Minaret and Ive just ordered a Tyvek bivvy. Oh, and Ive also got some of the six inch carbon fibre stakes. Its great kit.

Bombproof but not cowproof ! I have to say I always get very nervous when t here are cows around and definitely try to avoid camping near them. The are too curious and big units. 😁

Cheers Fraser 👍

Cheers. I remember my first OMM. Unlike anything I had ever done before. We were hopelessly over time on the first day. Glad you enjoyed it, it is a unique event ( and the weather can be so much worse ! )

Hey , why not ? The only problem is you will know the tough bits that are still to come. 😁😁