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nulldeviceband
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เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2006
Null Device jumps genres with a dizzying frequency, while maintaining a distinctive melodic sound. Experimenting with everything from synthpop, breakbeat, IDM, bhangra, middle eastern folk music, and rock-n-roll, they've carved out a unique niche on the independent electronica landscape.
Am I Too Old To Be Doing This?
We all get older. But the music industry is aimed squarely at young people. So what's it like to be a marginally-successful bedroom producer blundering headlong through middle age?
What exactly do we do next?
I attempt to answer a few of these questions as best I can. Am I right? Who knows. I guess we'll find out.
0:00 Intro
0:17 An Intro, for real this time
1:28 Disclaimer
1:55 Don't Give Up. Or Do.
4:04 You Are Going To Be Different
6:29 Your Audience Is Gonna Be Different
8:25 Your Health Is A Bigger Deal
10:53 The Health of Your Hearing Is More Important Than Ever
11:44 Summing Up
Null Device
nulldevice.bandcamp.com
Cinematic synthpop
Klack
klack.bandcamp.com
EBM/New Beat
Edgecase Development Corp
edgecasedevco.bandcamp.comSome sort of techno
The Mayors of Nothing
mayorsofnothing.bandcamp.com
Lo-fi Post-Punk Industrial Beats To Have An Existential Crisis to 24/7
Submersible Studios
submersiblestudios.com
What exactly do we do next?
I attempt to answer a few of these questions as best I can. Am I right? Who knows. I guess we'll find out.
0:00 Intro
0:17 An Intro, for real this time
1:28 Disclaimer
1:55 Don't Give Up. Or Do.
4:04 You Are Going To Be Different
6:29 Your Audience Is Gonna Be Different
8:25 Your Health Is A Bigger Deal
10:53 The Health of Your Hearing Is More Important Than Ever
11:44 Summing Up
Null Device
nulldevice.bandcamp.com
Cinematic synthpop
Klack
klack.bandcamp.com
EBM/New Beat
Edgecase Development Corp
edgecasedevco.bandcamp.comSome sort of techno
The Mayors of Nothing
mayorsofnothing.bandcamp.com
Lo-fi Post-Punk Industrial Beats To Have An Existential Crisis to 24/7
Submersible Studios
submersiblestudios.com
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Null Device Live @ Terminus Festival, 2023
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A collection of clips from Null Device's performance at the Terminus Festival, Calgary AB, July 2023.
Oh No I've ruined my life
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I made a purchase that will invariable send me down a time-consuming and financially-consuming rabbit hole. Null Device nulldevice.bandcamp.com Cinematic synthpop Klack klack.bandcamp.com EBM/New Beat Edgecase Development Corp edgecasedevco.bandcamp.comSome sort of techno The Mayors of Nothing mayorsofnothing.bandcamp.com Lo-fi Post-Punk Industrial Beats To Have An Existential Crisis to 24/7 Su...
A Brief Look At The Live Rig (while I panic about about gig prep)
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I had a big plan to do a deep dive into gain staging, but I've also got Terminus Festival coming up and I had a lot of stuff to sort out before then, since I'm in two different bands for that (give or take), so instead here's a brief overview of how I wrangle the live rig and keep it small enough to (mostly) fit on a plane. Terminus Festival: dickensyyc.com/events/#2425 Null Device nulldevice.b...
A Look At Several Clipper Plugins
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0:00 Intro 0:17 What are clippers for? 1:07 Waxing philosophical for too long 7:30 Schwabe GoldClip 8:45 TDR Limiter6 GE 9:50 Kazrog KClip 3 11:00 Boz Digital Big Clipper 2 11:42 Newfangled Elevate 14:45 Audio Examples 15:07 Gold Clip 16:21 Limiter6 17:08 KClip 18:45 Big Clipper 19:30 Elevate 20:10 Delta monitoring 22:00 Other Clippers not tested 22:32 Summary and Final Thoughts 26:08 A hamhand...
I Forgot To Set My Out Of Office Notification
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I haven't uploaded a video in a while, and I'm sure all seven of my loyal viewers have been concerned. I've been busy. Doing...stuff. I'll make more videos, I swear. Null Device nulldevice.bandcamp.com Cinematic synthpop Klack klack.bandcamp.com EBM/New Beat Edgecase Development Corp edgecasedevco.bandcamp.com Some sort of techno The Mayors of Nothing mayorsofnothing.bandcamp.com Lo-fi Post-Pun...
IRs For String Players
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The humble little impulse response file is useful for stuff other than just guitar cabinets and reverbs. If you're an electric string player, it can be used to fairly convincingly fake an acoustic instrument. The IRs demonstrated here: www.3sigmaaudio.com/acoustic-impulses/ Null Device nulldevice.bandcamp.com Cinematic synthpop Klack klack.bandcamp.com EBM/New Beat Edgecase Development Corp edg...
Some Useful Mastering Utilities
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Mastering isn't all EQ's and compressors and limiters. Sometimes you need other stuff to help. Track: "Blind" by Unitcode:Machine unitcode.bandcamp.com/ HorNet VU Meter: www.hornetplugins.com/plugins/hornet-vu-meter-mk4/ ADPTR Audio Streamliner www.plugin-alliance.com/en/products/adptr_streamliner.html Perception AB www.meterplugs.com/perception-ab Null Device nulldevice.bandcamp.com Cinematic ...
AI Drums 2: Deep Sampling?
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Audialab, makers of Emergent Drums, have started testing a veeeeeerrrry interesting technology to generate new drum sounds from existing samples. They call it "Deep Sampling." But does it work? audialab.com/deep-sampler/ Null Device nulldevice.bandcamp.com Cinematic synthpop Klack klack.bandcamp.com EBM/New Beat Edgecase Development Corp edgecasedevco.bandcamp.com Some variety of techno The May...
A Couple Of My Favorite Weirdo Plugins
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I take a look at Devious Machines Infiltrator, Minimal Rift and MorphEQ, and Dawesome Abyss. deviousmachines.com/ www.minimal.audio/ www.tracktion.com/products/abyss
A Must-Have Tool for Mac Audio People
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PlugInfo is just stupidly useful if you're a mac user with a lot of audio plugins, and you're trying to navigate the whole Intel/Apple Silicon transition. apps.apple.com/us/app/pluginfo/id1626412949?mt=12 Also shout out to Alex K, aka Digital Geist: digitalgeist.bandcamp.com/
AI Drum Sampler Insanity: Emergent Drums and MACE.AI
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It's the Batman v Superman, Coke v Pepsi, Godzilla v Gidorah, Kramer v Kramer of artificially intelligent drum samplers! Do they make cool drums? Are they worth the hype? Will they take our jobs? I take a look at two new products that use Machine Learning/AI to create unique drum samples: Audialab Emergent Drums and Tensorpunk Mace.AI. They take similar technologies and apply them in different ...
The Boring Piece of Gear Every Electronic Live Act Needs
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They're often forgotten, or just thought of as "something the venue has." But when you play live with synths and laptops, having your own ready to go can be a time-saver and a gig-saver. www.radialeng.com/product_category/passive-di www.audiopile.net/FDB-404 www.whirlwindusa.com/products/black-boxes-effects-and-dis-direct-boxes-imp2 www.behringer.com/product.html?modelCode=P0208
Nonlinear Reverbs!
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We go back to the sound of the 1980's with a bunch of plugins that do nonlinear and gated reverbs. Gosh they're fun. valhalladsp.com/shop/reverb/valhalla-vintage-verb/ www.wavealchemy.co.uk/product/glow/ goodhertz.com/megaverb/ babyaud.io/crystalline slatedigital.com/verbsuite-classics/
The Sound of 90's Electronica In a Plugin?
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The Sound of 90's Electronica In a Plugin?
A Great Tape Plugin (that you probably aren't using)
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A Great Tape Plugin (that you probably aren't using)
Null Device live on the University of Wisc Madison Terrace, Aug 14, 2022
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Null Device live on the University of Wisc Madison Terrace, Aug 14, 2022
Awesome for any sort of snare drums
Oh my word, I love this, Eric. This is so helpful for someone like me joining in squarely in middle age. Thank you!
It’s nice to see a bunch of options on the market, it’s also very educational to know the origins of this in terms of D/A hardware. Thanks for that. I only found the demonstration itself to be lacking any real value to me. Just playing audio through a limiter and switching Clippers on/off at 12db (or whatever you set it to) tells us very little other than that they are doing ‘something’. Great, but it leaves me with way more questions than answers. These products are built for real world Mastering applications, and understanding these products in that sweet spot is the real value to understanding the differences between one and the other. For example, Clipping transients that are only a few samples long can often give you back headroom with nearly zero perceptual difference, which at the mastering level is how we’d use these products. So why not demonstrate some of this? As a potential consumer trying to purchase one (or at most two) that work the best for me, this is why I’m seeking out videos like yours. Maybe food for thought? Good to have a list of products though, so thanks, but I’ll keep searching for the video I wanted to see.
Regarding Box Big CLipper 2, I think you have a high pass filter at 200Hz, which could explain why it doesn’t clip as much as the other clippers, it must let peaks below 200 Hz unclipped.
Sir, thank you for a lot of info. You have yourself a great day!
I have just gotten the TDR Limiter 6 GE, not used it much just yet. I also have Venomode Maximal 3, a limiter with an input clipper. The one I use right now on my Studio One 6.5+ 2 bus as an insert is the LVC Clipped-MAX. I send that clipped signal into LVC Limited-MAX. The limiter is just to make certain peaks don't go over my -1.0 ceiling.
And yes, I'm aware I haven't put out a video in months. I'm hoping to rectify that soon. I've had both a) a shedload of personal stuff crop up that's drained a lot of my time and b) I'm heads-down on the new Klack record...it's almost done! It's so close!
May i ask what you mean when clipping with the Tdr 6 Limiter clipping module you say „it shows 3 db but i know i am clipping more“ , why would the meter lie ? I consider Tdr plugins to be among the best when it comes down to reliability thats why i am asking. Btw Saturate is not multiband. To the summary, yes they all are very similar. Thats my conclusion over the years. We have a lot of productions at -2 -3 lufs so clipping is here to stay (for now). There is a lot of „incredible loudness“ as you say. I personally find everything „louder than -7, -8 lufs to be very fatiguing
I...honestly don't remember why I made that statement. I think I might have been reacting to the fast response of the needle in L6, which can make it a little difficult to get an exact reading. But I might have been thinking of something else. I need to stick to my script and not ad-lib. :) Most of the time I try not to really exceed -9, -10LUFS - there's little point in going hotter than that unless it's for some specific effect, and as you say, anything louder that about 8 is just tiring. In these cases clipping probably doesn't get you a whole lot that limiting couldn't, other than a better transient response. I find myself using clipping a lot more for client work than for my own, since when I'm dealing with my own mixes I can manage the gain staging and transient stuff at the mix stage and don't really have to worry about it so much in the master.
@@nulldeviceband i hear ya. Dont worry, my life consists of things i cant remember what and why i tried to say in the first place and then people look at me funny :-)
Thanks so much for this video. I use Logic and am trying to decide which soft clipper to get and this was so helpful. Subbed!
Phat fx does it and for free! Also all the compressors have a clip mode on them too.
Unjustifiably underrated
Ash is the best I’ve tried
Same. Was blown away after years of finding and detailed comparing almost every clippers/limiters in vst (DMG, l2, Softube Weiss, Elixir, AOM and so on). All of them muffles and degrade material more or less. Ash makes it sound like what you finally can name «mastered» in some very natural way.
Alas I didn't have Ash when I made this video. I'd have like to have added it to the shootout. To be honest Im always a bit hesitant to pull the trigger on any Acustica plugins - I had a few not long ago and they were so bloated and their UIs were so kludgy that they were borderline unusable. I hope they've improved since then but it really did leave a bad taste in my mouth, and the recent revelations about their copy protection still leaves me gunshy.
Thanks for the vicarious peek into your world. Love live your music (and hearing)!
awesome! saw you guys @ Unconvention last year in Morristown Hyatt.
Nice! Not my best show - I was on like 6 kinds of cold medicine at the time and was battling some horrid sinus infection - but it was still a good time.
What have you done
Oh it's gotten so much worse in the intervening weeks.
Wow, I admire anyone with organizational skills to be able to get on planes and play internationally. Does it get easier over time or is it always a bit anxiety inducing trying to remember everything? I'm very looking forward to your views on gain staging. I've watched a ton of TH-cam videos and half say gain stage through the whole process and the other half says it doesn't matter anymore in the digital realm and just pull down the faders or slap a volume pedal at the end of your chain. Personally the former way has had a huge impact on the quality of my final mixes in my opinion.
It's a little easier but every trip is its own Thing and has its own challenges. Like this last one was nervewracking because I was juggling two bands of my own and some other one-off stuff for the show. The last fly-and-play show was easier except for the fact that I had some martian death flu the weekend we performed and I had to try and sing while doped up on cold meds. Stuff like that. My biggest deal with gain staging is twofold: first, a lot of analog modelling plugins are calibrated to emulate hardware that's optimized for 0dbVU, which is usually a lot quieter that most plugins output. LIke, when I fire up my channel strip as my first plugin, the raw output from something like Serum is already pushing the input meter into the red. So there's that. Second, even though digitally I might not NEED the headroom, it does help me eliminate some bad habits when I'm mixing. If I've got space to play with, I can turn the snare up instead of turning the other 50 tracks down or worse, trying to make it sound louder with excess effects.
I Love this song and it's accompanying video so very much. 🖤
Man this is creepy beautiful.....video reminds me of "interstate love song" great job needs to be soundtrack for a series
Great video, thanks for sharing this technique!
It has proven ludicrously useful for me. Especially with a live electric cello - that sucker NEVER sat correctly in a FOH mix and had a tendency to sound like a B17 flying low overhead. Add some depth to it with the right IR and it was a lifesaver.
Would people be down to start a discord group to share such sounds and build a communal drumkit?
That could be a lot of fun. Audialab does run its own discord and might have some resources for that already. Tensorpunk doesn't, to my knowledge, so there may definitely be a use for something like that.
ADPTR's Streamliner is going to save me hours of panic attacks, wow.
Im eager for a developer to make a sound generator based on the point you made earlier of listening to samples you import and make variations upon that.
From what I gather, you won't have to wait long. Audialab has something in alpha right now that does things along those lines.
Heeeeeey well check out my latest video - a developer just did! It’s still in alpha but the technology exists and I think has some interesting ramifications.
Loved the Bad Gear homage. Florian is a treasure.
I love Bad Gear SO MUCH. I don’t know how he manages to edit together such meme-heavy videos AND learn some obscure synth add and every week but I’m so glad he does.
Stop calling it A.I. !! ti's not it's nothing but complex algorithm : A.I. my ass 🤣🤣🤣
Well, technically it's not AI, but ML - It's slightly more than " just" an algorithm, but slightly less than "classical artificial intelligence." But ML tends to get lumped in under AI studies, since it's in the same ballpark. Roger Penrose would never have complained about it, sure, but it's more adaptive based on input and dataset than a standard algorithm. More interestingly, you could use the same algortihm and get multiple different outputs depending on the training data, which is where the power of this lies - keep refining (or expanding) the data and you can get more interesting and complete output. It was also my second least-favorite CS class for my college degree, LOL. And that stuff has changed a LOT since I took that class [mumble] years ago.
Your ass has A.I.? Impressive!
Fantastic info! Danku
I still like to make it on my own 😎old school I am 😂
brilliant opening! ; )
thanks for the overview, I just got them both now. thanks for helping me spend more money hahaha
Haha my pleasure. I suspect that if I didn’t like plugins so much I’d have paid off my house by now.
@@nulldeviceband oh don't remind me haha
13-14 minutes in and I've heard about 10 seconds of drums. Please on god less talking and more actually showing us the instrument...
I’m still new at this. :) DULY NOTED!
😂dope intro
This is so beautifull! Well Done! Lyrics going deep and such a creative clip!
It really is great! Thanks for the plugs! Lol plugs get it 😂
gonna be great for sound design for games
Very useful. Thank you
Thanks for sharing this! Alex is a great guy.
Thanks sweetie
Honestly, I'd been following Emergent Drums for a while, but MACE really impresses me as a source of weird shit that I can further mangle. Easy buy, thanks for bringing it to my attention! Steinberg also have a drum plugin called Backbone which can both generate and resynthesize drum samples using a machine learning model, as well as break them down into separate tonal and atonal elements. Of the three it seems like the most powerful for building production-ready drums, but it is also quite expensive at $150, which could get one something like Kick 2 and a bunch of sample packs. This generative stuff is really cool from a producer's perspective, but I do worry about what this means for artists who rely on sample packs to make ends meet. I agree with Clif that Emergent's online rendering is 100% to protect their assets. Early on, when they switched away from a subscription model, they promised that if the company went under they'd release the model so that the program could be run offline, which suggests that it can be run just fine on consumer hardware. I really want to support them since they seem very passionate and actively engage with their community, but they also raise all the typical red flags you see from tech entrepreneurs--particularly those in new fields like machine learning. I've been leery since they walked back the free lifetime licenses for their early beta testers and then immediately tried to switch to a predatory subscription model.
Good stuff. Thanks for taking the time to run us thru these.
Sounds like shit
Alright this was Fire!!! finally TH-cam recommends something good lol
The online portion is almost always to protect their models. Building them takes a lot of resources, using them generally takes much much less.
There is definitely that. I suspect the "overhead" that users pay for is less the processing horsepower and just straight up rental of the server time. Audialab claims - and I have no way of verifying this, obviously - that they're continuously refining and training their datasets so that would also be a reason there. If user usage is refining the models that would make sense. Of course, Microtonic's Patternarium functions in a similar way, with upvotes and downvotes influencing sound generation, and they don't charge more for it, so...take it all with a grain of salt, I guess.
Another simple reality is that their supporting server architecture might be highly dependent on Nvidia cards, this is a common problem right now for a lot of people to run the models locally. Sure the model itself would be fine on an iPhone, but you end up having to rewrite too much code and oh yeah, you are changing code constantly at the beginning.
I never ever trust a venue to have their own when I play out but as a venue we made damn sure we had them onhand - so so so so important and there's no way that should be left to chance.
so many, many venues have "a few, but not enough." Like they're set up for a band that has a keyboardist or a drum track but then a whole lineup rolls up with a couple euroracks, some amp sims for their guitars, and a handful of drum machines, suddenly those "four DIs we bought back when we opened" just aren't enough.
Yes! having my own has saved my ass (and other people's!) so many times
Oh, Winston :-D
I love this plugin! I use it in every track I make, especially on the drums. Check out Shapeshifter too!
I have shapeshifter as well! And Digitalis too. I love their stuff.
@@nulldeviceband I love Shapeshifter, again especially on drums. I have Digitalis too which is also great but I don't use it very much to be honest. It's still a great plugin though
It's wild that I came across your channel because I got recommended your demo of a tape plugin review. Your track "Electrified" has been a staple of my DJ sets for like 12 years. 🙂 Sketch Cassette looks cool. I have Klevgrand's DAW Cassette and Spectral Plugins' OCS-45, but Maybe I'll pick this one up, too. I love collecting plugins!
Oh wild indeed! I too love collecting plugins. My mortgage would probably be paid off by now if I didn't. :)
Loved it!
Your intro....masterful. Hilarious. Thank you for making me and my friend laugh randomly.
As you may have gathered I have a great fondness for 90's electronic music. :)
I fully endorse this product or service.
So good!
More people should know about Sketch Cassette
my favorite tape plugin hands down
Nice tune 👌