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The Cave of Twins

When are you going to tell your followers all the Hebrew Scriptures are altered - repeatedly - and that Genesis is just made up from digesting stories of others to remake them in their hoped image - and that they then spit in the face of God?

Why is this not being raised as an alarm among Evangelicals and others to show Israel altered the words of God to justify evil in the NAME of God today? and that they are supporting evil - not God? They all believe and trust in liars. "Romans Proves Paul Lied - Have We Inherited Lies From Our Fathers" - Dare to read it and abandon your evil?

Well said Ross!

Love your studies, Ross. Just wanted to posit an alternative explanation on Paul though. As an esoteric Christian (of sorts) Paul is using Abraham as an allegory. The seed is indeed one because it is only the lineage of Isaac that seems to be included, despite Abraham having other wives and concubines. Maybe that helps reconcile this?

Thanks!

I caught up... ❤ You two are indeed a fresh breeze in all the fundamentalism around us. Thank God! It's so difficult to find God Believers (Walking with God people) that keep up with all the technology, archeology, and contemporary studies of our era. God bless you!

Torah tablet you speak of

What is the total tablet

Whenever Paul "quoted" from the "Old" Testament , he twisted them in order to create his own religion , what he called "MY. gospel" : Genesis 15:6 KJV 6)"And he (Abraham) believed in the Lord (Yeh Ho VaH) ; and he (Abraham) counted it (Yeh Ho VaH's promise) to him (Yeh Ho VaH) for righteousness." of course if Paul had kept reading ...... : Genesis 26:5 KJV 5)"Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws." His doctrine of faith alone falls on it's face

Baruch HaShem for your efforts If it's any consolation to whom it may concern, "*the Words* spoken by Moshe according to the mouth of Elohim" - do NOT require sacrifice. Dense narrative in this portion. In the lesson or the chat I usually find something I hadn't considered or given much thought to. As we can tell, Abraham is presented as a very socially conscious sort. Not so much in the manner of "winning friends and influencing people," but rather one who inspired loyalty - and not necessarily by means of performing miracles. The parallels with Moshe you raised are interesting. Though both seem like different archetypes (Abraham as "the father of multitudes") both were sojourners, and both narratives wherein prayer is shown to be only as effective as one's will to intercede with God. Yet HaShem welcomes you to intercede. "Return to me and I will return to you, says YHWH of hosts" as Malachi 3.7 puts it (shuvu elai w'ashuv aleichem, amar YHWH tzavaot). Perhaps today we aren't so different at times than those before the intervention of HaShem at Horeb; who withdrew in pleading for a vicar. In the case of those who deferred to listen to Moshe, rather than the voice of Elohim. As the author of the epistle of James reiterates in 4.8: "Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you" As for the birth of Isaac, perhaps God is illustrating to Abraham a sign. In a world where fertility was strictly a matter of providence (agriculturally, in regards to livestock, in regards to heirs, so on), A miracle. The absurdity that HaShem could make a matriarch of Sarah might warrant an outburst of hysterical laughter. The power to radically reverse things - that potential maybe realized according to the fruition of supreme faithfulness. So what is the point of a supreme blessing Abraham would not see? Is this some affirmation of the hereafter for the author? How did the scribes intend this to be understood? Is it a providential affirmation of a peoples - a nations - written backward?

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Not a fan of the A I..

Again, good job. I do wonder about the sacrifice of a son who was so old, is there a theology that fits into?

Is it possible that the tomb of the Patriarchs isn't in Hebron after all?

I completely missed that Isaac and Ishmael's grandad was still alive when both were growing up

When it comes to 'Abram the Hebrew' from Bereshiyth 14 we are not so much inspired by an epic concerning the virtus of a mighty warrior. Virtu we might associate with crusading subjects of chivalric literature throughout the middle ages; or with the Homeric heros of old - or Aristotle's model of a hero - of a brilliant military strategist - or even the virtu of Nimrod the *mighty hunter before the Lord* from the previous chapter, but rather *integrity* resolve, moral fortitude - the most exemplary qualities of a leader - of a father - the father of the house of the faithful. A *friend of God* (Isa 41.8; 2Chron 20.7; Jas 2.23). A person who inspires dedication (Gen 14.14 'chanik'). If the focus of the philosophers (Aristotle, Plato, Xenophon) deemed the people [demos] a product of their regime ('politiea' or 'constitution') as oriented around city-states - further east into the ancient past, we find in the narrative of Abraham how a people were a product of their house. Good study.

So many good thoughts provoking questions. Thank you for adding the linguistic context to the English!

'J' is enchanting. Some of the most impressive features of the Bible come from J. Not an accident. Imagery and pun happen to be helpful memory devices even despite those puns which are lost to English translation. The Yahwist accounts for almost all the charismatic alter building (with fewer instances attributed to Elohist scribal tradition concerning religious sites of Ya'acov in Gen 28.10-22; 31.54; 33.20; Exds. 24.4) prior to the construction of the Tabernacle of Exodus 40, which the Priestly authors would not have sanctioned. Surely there is a strata consistent with Jeremiah 7.22 (often attributed to the scribal tradition of the 'Deuteronomist'). I found astonishing that "mercy" or "chesed" is nowhere to be found in the 'Priestly' sources (as mentioned by Friedman in his Sources Revealed).

*ba'alei brit-Avram* בַּעֲלֵי בְרִית אַבְרָם Interesting use there in Gen 14.13 in regards to Amorites with Avram at the oaks of Mamre. Baruch HaShem who gave Jono the faculties to make keen observations (like the connection between this week's portion and the Moses Scroll); as well for all your efforts Ross and Seth. Was Abraham a "warlord?" What I like about Abraham is that he is not generally remembered as a "warrior" despite his success having lead a military excursion [Gen 14.14] when he pursued the Babylonian kings "north of Damascus" with "trained men born in his house" (חֲנִיכָיו |"chanikaw" often translated as "trained" - a peculiar term possibly related to חֲנֻכַּ֔ת | "chanukah" e.g. BaMidbar 7.10, 11, 84, 88 - the familiar term from the Maccabean/Hasmonean narrative; whereas a close translation of חֲנִיכָיו | "chanikaw" from Bereshiyth 14.14 could mean "dedicated" as in, "dedicated [members] born in his [Abraham's] house" i.e. not the common designation for the virtue of a "warrior" - גִּבּוֹר | Gibbowr from Yeremyahu 50.9; Nimrod in Bereshiyth 10.9; or in conjuction with "valiant" from חַיִל | "chayil" - skilled warriors גִּבּוֹר חַיִל | "gibbowr chayil" or "valiant warriors" we may find in Yehoshua 1.14, 8.3, 10.7; David in 1Shemuel 16.18 - something akin to virtues/values of the "Homeric heros" from Greek poetry/mythology, that which even Socrates [a supposed veteran himself of the Pelopenesian War] scrutinized, in regards to the limitations of martial force [Gorgias 466a; Plato, Republic, 1.353d-354a]).That is, the authors did not dwell on Abraham's "virtu" (in Machiavelli's terms - not Hebraic terms) or warrior ethos [in contrast to the account given by the author of 1Shemuel 18.7 and what is indicated by those whom coined the recalled expression recorded by the author of 1Shemuel 18.7). Rather, Abraham has been regarded for his hospitality - and remembered as a "friend of God" (in 1st c. by the author of James/Ya'acov 2.23). More than a megalopsychia. "If it be a sin to covet honor, I am the most offending soul alive" from Henry V Act 4 Scene 3 (from this "St. Crispin's Day speech" speech the U.S. Marines adapted the slogan "the few, the proud. . .") Shakespeare was aware of the tensions between the Judeo-Christian and the pagan virtues prevalent in his day - and the fact that for Christians it was a sin to covet honor. Nevertheless, the author left it to the subjects of his comedies, tragedies, and comi-tragedies to work out the contradictions (one aspiration of the Renaissance was to combine the best of the "Classics" with the "Apostolic Tradition" - an observation made intelligible to me by Paul Cantor in his series "Shakespeare and Politics" - one of the Tribe who's memory has been a blessing having listened to his lectures available on YT - second to none when it comes to appreciating the scope of the literature attributed to Shakespeare). Though David himself recognized "HaShem does not save with sword and spear" in 1Shemuel 17.47. In Tehillim 33.16-17, "my sword does not bring me victory;" and "a mighty man is not delivered by great strength" in Tehillim 44.3-7 ("descendents of Korah"). Yet David was forbid to build a house for HaShem for he was a "man of war" -אִישׁ מִלְחָמוֹת | "ish milchamot" and had "shed blood" דָמִים שָׁפָכְתָּ | "damim shafachta." Let's not forget Abraham the *river crosser* was born in Babylon and Moshe the *stranger in a strange land* was born in Mitzraim/Egypt.

Baruch HaShem who gave Jono the faculties to make keen observations (like that connection between this week's portion and the Moses Scroll); as well for all your efforts Ross and Seth. Was Abraham a "warlord?" Reminded me of this I posted a while back relevant to the Bereshiyth 14- What I like about Abraham is that he is not generally remembered as a "warrior" despite his success having lead a military excursion [Gen 14.14] when he pursued the Babylonian kings "north of Damascus" with "trained men born in his house" (חֲנִיכָיו |"chanikaw" often translated as "trained" - a peculiar term possibly related to חֲנֻכַּ֔ת | "chanukah" e.g. BaMidbar 7.10, 11, 84, 88 - the familiar term from the Maccabean/Hasmonean narrative; whereas a close translation of חֲנִיכָיו | "chanikaw" from Bereshiyth 14.14 could mean "dedicated" as in, "dedicated [members] born in his [Abraham's] house" i.e. not the common designation for the virtue of a "warrior" - גִּבּוֹר | Gibbowr from Yeremyahu 50.9; Nimrod in Bereshiyth 10.9; or in conjuction with "valiant" from חַיִל | "chayil" - skilled warriors גִּבּוֹר חַיִל | "gibbowr chayil" or "valiant warriors" we may find in Yehoshua 1.14, 8.3, 10.7; David in 1Shemuel 16.18 - something akin to virtues/values of the "Homeric heros" from Greek poetry/mythology, that which even Socrates [a supposed veteran himself of the Pelopenesian War] scrutinized, in regards to the limitations of martial force [Gorgias 466a; Plato, Republic, 1.353d-354a]). That is, the authors did not dwell on Abraham's "virtu" (in Machiavelli's terms - not Hebraic terms) or warrior ethos [in contrast to the account given by the author of 1Shemuel 18.7 and what is indicated by those whom coined the recalled expression recorded by the author of 1Shemuel 18.7). Rather, Abraham has been regarded for his hospitality - a leader and a "friend of God" (in the 1st c. by the author of James/Ya'acov 2.23). More than the megalopsychia. "If it be a sin to covet honor, I am the most offending soul alive" from Henry V Act 4 Scene 3 (from this "St. Crispin's Day speech" speech the U.S. Marines adapted the slogan "the few, the proud. . .") Shakespeare was aware of the tensions between the Judeo-Christian and the pagan virtues prevalent in his day - and the fact that for Christians it was a sin to covet honor. Nevertheless, the author left it to the subjects of his comedies, tragedies, and comi-tragedies to work out the contradictions (one aspiration of the Renaissance was to combine the best of the "Classics" with the "Apostolic Tradition" - an observation made intelligible to me by Paul Cantor in his series "Shakespeare and Politics" - one of the Tribe who's memory has been a blessing having listened to his lectures available on YT - second to none when it comes to appreciating the scope of the literature attributed to Shakespeare). Though David himself recognized "HaShem does not save with sword and spear" in 1Shemuel 17.47. In Tehillim 33.16-17, "my sword does not bring me victory;" and "a mighty man is not delivered by great strength" in Tehillim 44.3-7 ("descendents of Korah"). Yet David was forbid to build a house for HaShem for he was a "man of war" -אִישׁ מִלְחָמוֹת | "ish milchamot" and had "shed blood" דָמִים שָׁפָכְתָּ | "damim shafachta." Let's not forget Abraham the 'river crosser' was born in Babylon and Moshe the 'stranger in a strange land' was born in Mitzraim/Egypt.

Stop the nonsense - repeating mythology of the Rabbi - Moses did not write Genesis - or exodus, or the rest. Raad "Why the Bible Began" and "The Origins of Judaism". Your texts were unknown before 250 BC - invented. "Romans Proves Paul Lied - Have We Inherited Lies From Our Fathers?"

The Amorite were originally known as the Mar.tu in Sumerian, but they called themselves the Amurru and their gods was also known as Amurru. Overtime they became more powerful and collected a Pantheon of minor gods. Although it cannot be certain the city of the flood myth, Shuruppak, was attacked and set ablaze by some Euphratean people, possibly the Mar.tu. The colony that became Mari was abandoned after the flood, and when it was reoccupied it was reoccupied in cooperation with the Amorites. The Marian kings were at least in part Amorite. The Marian Kings were the spearhead of the initial conquest of Cana’an in Sumer’s early dynastic period. They attacked Ebla, and Ebla invaded and occupied Mari, after which, with the help of Sumer, the Eblaites were kicked out and the hegemonic trading empire of Ebla fizzles out, and the cities gods start to fade from the inscriptions. It is around this time that ‘El, the most high, appears. At first they god appears to have the favor of the Marians, but during the Akkadian dynasty it falls out of favor in Ebla. My thinking here is that ‘El was pushed to be a mountain/tabernacle god. The phraseology most high meaning, literally, the most high. The same with Shaddai, which is an Amorite derivative of shaddu (boobs), and they may be using it the same way we use Gran Tetons. That would kind of make ‘El an Amorite deity compatible with eastern dynastic sensitivities. So where was the mountain. Almost certainly Mt. Hermon was a mountain of both Hadad and ‘El. IMO, the sacrificial site used by Samu’el and Eli was probably a sacrificial site for El. This site is relatively close to trade routes and it’s likely travelers made offerings to ‘El to demonstrate the piety, and safe travel. There was a mountain near the Baka valley that was referenced as a site of ‘El. And the priestly site seems to move about. The Mar.tu appear to originate in N. Lebanon and W. Syria and they might have had sacred mountains in that region. That’s the simple answer. A more complicated answer is that the Hyksos originated from sites between the Euphrates and Damascus and traveled south and joined with west Semetic speakers. At the end of the period when Ahmoses displaced the Hyksos they traveled through S. Canaan and dispersed, possible some south, as this was the region of the west Semetic speakers, and some into the Levant. “Ahmose I led three attacks against Avaris, the Hyksos capital, but also had to quell a small rebellion further south in Egypt. After this, in the fourth attack, he conquered the city. He completed his victory over the Hyksos by conquering their stronghold Sharuhen near Gaza after a three-year siege.” And his strategy was to block the road to Gaza, this meant that levatine Amorites were supporting Avaros. Thus the colony appears to have these connections with Syria. After the defeat of Avaros the Hyksos fled to the Levant, which the Pharoah occupied, but as the territory was very hilly and the Amorites more familiar it was probably a game of cat and mouse. The primary Canaanite god of the Hyksos appears to be Ba’al Hadad and his wife Anath, which sort of links them to Damas. Ba’al had sites on Mt. Hermon, Mt. Carmel, and other sites. In the inscription literature whenever ‘El is mentioned so also is Ba’al.

if Ezra could read the LDS creation and pre-mortal myth that would be interesting. I do think there is some truth to it, BUT we would need more biblical proof.

Shalom Ross and Jono, Thank you for taking the time to comment on my previous message. I really appreciate it! My name could be pronounced “Ann-dreez Low” (Andries Louw). I have another question regarding Moses. We know that Moses was raised in Egypt and was familiar with the Egyptian gods. Would it be plausible to say that Moses was accustomed to a pantheon of gods, and that this might explain why he referred to Elohim? And then, when he encountered the burning bush, he learned that God’s name is Yehovah (YHWH)? Also, I recently spoke to a pagan friend, and we discussed ancient gods. As Jono mentioned, the concept of El Elyon (the King of the gods) also seems to be a common theme. The pagan belief system includes a hierarchy of gods, with a chief deity at the top. In many ways, this hierarchy appears similar to the role of the Watchers in ancient texts. It's fascinating how many ancient deities share parallels with the Watchers or other heavenly beings. Could it be that these ancient gods were understood as powerful spiritual beings or angelic entities, rather than literal gods? Looking forward to your thoughts on this. Phonetic Pronunciation of "Andries Louw" (Afrikaans name): Andries: "Ann-dreez" (Where "Ann" rhymes with "man," and "dreez" sounds like the English word "breeze" with a soft "d.") Louw: "Low" (The "w" is pronounced like the English "w," so it sounds like the word "low.") References and Clarifications: Moses in Egypt & the Egyptian Pantheon: The idea that Moses was raised in Egypt and would have been familiar with Egyptian gods is supported by historical accounts. Moses would have been educated in the ways of the Egyptians, including their polytheistic beliefs. It’s reasonable to consider that Moses, in his early life, might have seen the Egyptian gods as powerful deities, and this would later contrast with his understanding of Elohim (the Hebrew God). Moses' encounter with the burning bush (Exodus 3:14) was a profound revelation of the singular, eternal God, and this marked a shift from polytheistic thinking to a more monotheistic understanding. Reference: Exodus 3:14, where God reveals Himself as "I AM" or "YHWH." Elohim vs Yehovah: "Elohim" (a plural form) is often used in the Old Testament to describe God in a majestic or collective sense. "YHWH" (often vocalized as Yehovah or Yahweh) is the personal, covenantal name of God revealed to Moses. The transition from a polytheistic worldview (recognizing multiple gods) to the monotheistic revelation of the one true God is a key theme in the narrative of Moses’ encounter with the divine. Reference: Genesis 1:1 (Elohim) vs. Exodus 3:14 (YHWH). The Hierarchy of Gods in Ancient Beliefs: Many ancient cultures, including the Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans, believed in a hierarchy of gods with one supreme deity, such as Ra in Egypt or Zeus in Greece. The concept of a King of the gods or a top god overseeing a pantheon is a common theme in many mythologies. Reference: The concept of El Elyon (the Most High God) in the Bible is similar to the idea of the chief god in many ancient pantheons. El Elyon appears in texts like Psalms 78:35 and Psalm 82:6, and is often associated with the supreme God of Israel. The Watchers: The "Watchers" are mentioned in the Book of Enoch (which is not part of the canonical Bible but is part of the apocryphal literature). They are described as angels who descend to earth and interact with humanity, teaching forbidden knowledge. Some scholars have drawn parallels between these Watchers and the ancient gods of various cultures. The idea of powerful, otherworldly beings with a hierarchy and authority could explain some similarities between ancient gods and the Watchers. Reference: Book of Enoch, 1 Enoch 6-7.

"The animals went in two by two HURRAH! HURRAH! The animals went in two by two HURRAH! HURRAH! The animals went in two by two The elephants and the kangaroos And they all went into the ark All to get out of the rain" Does that jog any memories, Ross?

Is it possible that Julia Julia was just baiting people to view her FB page?

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Ross, this is unrelated but I hope you will reply. In listening to your videos I hear you mention that you were raised in the “ Churches” and have not fell away when faced with the errors and that your son Seth is working along at your side. I am a wife and a mother of 5 people children whom I LOVE dearly. I brought them to the churches and left churches that taught contrary to the word. My husband is an unbeliever and brought in pagan world influences: music, movies,friends, and examples. I am praying for my family to return and be restored to their purity and LOVE of TRUTH. How were you brought up and how did you raise your children????!!! PLEASE share your insights And Everyone pray for my husband and children to forsake ALL FOOLISHNESS!🤲🏼🤲🏼🤲🏼

ALL PRAISES to OUR FATHER!!!!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I have just reached this fork in the road is it the Septuagint or the Masoretic text????? And honestly became VERY discouraged! Thank you Ross for this study. Also knowing the scribes injected and changed Torah can anyone help me if you have knowledge? Disciplining children by using the rod was that injected? Also what makes a man and woman married???? MARRIAGE Deuteronomy 25:5 If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger: her husband's brother SHALL GO IN UNTO HER, TAKE HER TO HIM TO WIFE , and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her. MY thought is because Eve was taken out of Adam in from his rib and formed therefore when a man goes into a woman she becomes his wife. Other examples are Tamar with her brother Ammon and Dinah Jacob’s daughter. Anyone?????

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So was discussing the different flood versions with my very smart husband & it's not different versions.. One is how long it rained & the other is how long the water from the rain stayed on the earth ❣️

Gen 9:8 Then God said to Noah and to his sons with him: 9 “I now establish my covenant with you and with your descendants after you 10 and with every living creature that was with you-the birds, the livestock and all the wild animals, all those that came out of the ark with you-every living creature on earth. The covenant wasn’t just with Noah and his family, but also with the animals. It’s hard for me to reconcile His care for animals with His being pleased by the smell of their roasting flesh (sacrifices).

Good Job gentlemen. These are not really corrections but heads up., The first one, ‘El, the most high was a Babylonian like high god that assembled both the qualities of Anu (celestial sky) and Enlil (supreme god). The differences is that Anu, at least in the literature owns the bull of the heavens and ‘El is the bull of the heavens. Like ‘El he is the (disputed in Eridu) father of the gods, but in the Eridu mythology Nammu is a hermaphroditic first true god, who gives rise to Enki (Ea, Ia, Yah) and is the daughter or grandaughter of Absu (the waters that dwell beneath) and his wife (Tiamat/Tahom) the deeps. The reason for this complexity is that Uruk, Anu’s city, is the great organizer of the cities and his eight pointed star signifies higher divinity in the tutelary gods of the other city states. But Eridu preexists Uruk by 1450 years at least. The E.absu in Eridu is 1300 years older than Uruk. As a consequence there are two divine cosmologies, the more colorful is the one of Uruk and the more venerated the one of Eridu. So this is our little lesson about gods, they evolve. So we need to go back to ‘El. The storied ‘L takes on the character of Enlil, he apparently rapes two beach virgins, and thus Asherah is forced to adopts these two sons, Shalim and Shahan, Dusk and Dawn. Shalim is the god of Urushalim. “The Execration Texts of the Middle Kingdom of Egypt (c. 19th century BCE), which refer to a city called rwšꜣlmm or ꜣwšꜣmm, variously transcribed as Rušalimum, or Urušalimum, may indicate Jerusalem.” And ‘El the most high appears in the literature slightly before this as the gods of Ebla trading hegemony begin to fade during the Mesopotamian conquest of Canaan from the pre Babylonian. The city itself is over 5000 years old. He is also prone, like Enlil to excessive drinking and hangovers. A hangover may have been his reason for rage against the noisy humans in the flood Epic of Gilgamesh. In the Ugaritic literature he gets drunk and almost dies. But there is a subtle aspect of ‘El that is peculiar. ‘El appears to be denied a tutelary city, he is a god of peaks (Shaddu, breast, think Gran Tetons), he’s a portable god, and his tributary sites existed over a broad region, in Hurrian areas, probably in Arabia. He shared sites with Hadad. The Bible claims there was an alter at Bethel, but the cities name was Luz, an important site to Asherah. The Ugaritic texts seem to imply he is a tabernacle god. It is likely, in fact almost certain ‘l went by different names in different regions. In the Hurrian kingdom he is Elkanusa, some northern Canaanite groups might have to referred to him as Elyon, whereas he might have, in the south been called El Shaddai, in west Semetic he is an obligate treaty partner (a role similar to Anu) and finally the jury is still out on whether El is the Egyptian god Ptah. These various instances of the same original notion may have varied, so much so that in contract negotiations they need to be treated as different gods. The quality of El, IMO, is a god set up by Mesopotamian as to install a priesthood capable of watching over trade, shepherds and travelers. This process probably began in Mari in which the Amurra and Sumerian gods were forced to mesh together in the 25th to 26th century BCE, the Marian Kings being the spear-head of pre-Sargonic conquest in the west. This high watching god was a necessity because Mari by itself was not that powerful, Sumer was far away and sometimes Sumer fell into civil conflict or was taken over by outsiders. Without a locally controlled priesthood, the hundreds of years setting up trade routes would be immediately taken over by fuedal chieftains who would try to create a dynasty unto themselves. But without constant and consistent oversight by Akkad and Sumer, along with multiple worship sites the priesthood of ‘L would radiate.

Gen 7: 11 In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, on the seventeenth day of the second month-on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened. 12 And rain fell on the earth forty days and forty nights. Sure, it rained, but springs also burst from the deep. As far as it taking 150 days for the water to recede, I don’t see this as contradictory. Surely it would take time for all that water to recede or evaporate.

Looking forward to "Lekh Lekha" (Genesis/Bereshiyth 12) next week - where history departs from myth. Not to say the flood did not happen or that Abraham is historical (that is my own personal belief -- without who, there would be a cavernous vacuum of leadership in history without). Loosely I mean. I find the Yahwist portions brilliant - rich with imagery and Hebrew puns. Wherein we find the first of many of our earliest impressions of THE Bible. Don't be discouraged by those who accept without questioning or those who reject because questioning. With "Elohim" the "Sh'ma" (from Deuteronomy/Devarim 6.4) becomes a statement in parallel: "God, our God, God is ONE" "Elohim (general/universal in plural grandeur) Eloheinu (personal i.e. who? 'Our God') Elohim (God) Echad (One)"

(I'm bout 40 minutes in now) "J" appears to have been scribed from a highly phenomenological perspective. That said, I must say this cycle of reading helps in drawing clarity from the text. To approach Scripture in this way, as y'all have demonstrated, requires a level of candor and devotion other teachers and shepards have not come to yet.

This is the first time I have come on your channel. When you say J P E Letters, what do they stand for, please?

Baruch HaShem for all your efforts. Was late to tune in live. Thanks!

Jesus absolutely claimed to be God. Jesus and the apostles read and quoted from the Septuagint Greek scriptures which were translated into Greek 300 years before Jesus was born. Being in Greek locked the prophesies down. The Masoretic text, the Hebrew text was completed 800 years after Jesus was condemned to death by the Jews. The prophesies of Jesus in the Masoretic text have been changed to make them appear to not be about Jesus. A word made meaningless here and there, or left out passages. The genealogies record and translated passages to make it appear that Jesus could not have been the Messiah. Whereas the Septuigent was being used by the early Christians and the apostles to prove the prophesies were definitely about Jesus. Example from BibleHub the Greek into English John 8:24 Jesus speaking, That is why I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe in me that I AM you will die in your sins. (Jesus is saying He can forgive their sins, no mere man can forgive sins. No mere man can die for any one person's sins let alone every person's sins only God Himself could be the Savior.) The I AM are words of divine self identification. If your scripture reads instead of I AM, but instead, "I am he" then the divinity claim is twisted out of recognition. The word 'he' is not in the Greek it is added. Only the Most High God in heaven can claim to be the I AM. And when Jesus does so repeatedly he is claiming to be God. Jesus repeatedly used the I AM referring to Himself. And the Pharisees picked up stones more than once to stone Jesus on the spot for Blasphemy. Jesus claimed I AM THE BREAD OF LIFE. I AM The Light of the World. I AM the Door. I AM the Good Shepherd. I AM the Resurrection and the Life. I AM the True Vine. These were all belonging to YHWH alone. JESUS CLAIMED THEM ALL TO BE ABOUT HIM. Mark 2:28 (Jesus speaking) "Therefore, the Son of Man is Lord even of the SABBATH " Early Christ. Followers were called Christians because they WORSHIPPED THE CHRIST AS GOD. First century sources outside of the Bible documents tha the Christians had a habit of meeting early in the morning ON THE LORD'S DAY (which was Sunday because HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD ON SUNDAY) singing songs UNTO Christ Jesus as if He were GOD. And they would break bread (Communion) as Jesus told them to do in remembrance of HIM). THE New Testament also tells of them meeting on the Lord's Day with Paul teaching them. I am not arguing for anyone to give up keeping Sabbath. I am arguing that they were meeting on and commemorating Sunday as THE LORD,"S DAY which is why Christians meet on Sunday but we should be WORSHIPPING EVERYDAY with all of our actions and thoughts which does not preclude worshipping on Saturday also. The High Priests and Pharisees understood exactly what Jesus was claiming with each of these I AM statements. How about when Judas betrayed Jesus in the garden ? (the band of soldiers from the chief priests and Pharisees were looking for Jesus... John 18:5 "Jesus the Nazarene" Jesus said, "I AM" . And Judas His Betrayer was standing with them. 6 When Jesus said, "I AM" They drew back and fell to the ground. (*There was POWER to knock them down when Jesus claimed I AM as He was about to be arrested.) 7 So He asked them again, "Whom are you seeking?" "Jesus the Nazarene" they answered. Jesus replied, "I told you that I AM so if you are looking for Me let these (men) go." Later in the court the High Priest asked, "Are You the Messiah (Christos) the Son of the Blessed One?" Mark 14:62 "I AM" said Jesus, and you will see the Son of Man sitting at the Right Hand of Power and coming with the clouds of Heaven 63 At this, the high priest tore his clothes and declared, "Why do we need any more witnesses? 64 "You have heard the blasphemy. What is your verdict?" And they all condemned Him as deserving of death. This is extremely clear that the First century Jews knew, without a doubt that Jesus just committed the blasphemy of claiming to be God in the flesh. If Jesus had said, I am your neighbor you will see me walking in the road the high priest would not have acted the way he did at that moment. Research what Son of Man means and research what the Right Hand of Power means Coming On The Clouds. These were not mere idle words! He was crucified for claiming to be God! Your ears are not understanding what is written and what the JEWS UNDERSTOOD JESUS TO BE SAYING. Don't be fooled by people who claim that Jesus didn't Claim To Be God or that He wasn't worshipped immediately after His resurrection. Acts 7:56 (Stephen, the fist martyr who followed Jesus, is speaking just before he is taken and killed) Look he said, I see Heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the Right (Hand) of God. 57 At this they covered their ears, cried out in a loud voice, and rushed together at him. (They knew he was making a Diety claim about Jesus, they rushed Stephen and drug him out if the city and stoned him). 59 As they were stoning him, Stephen appealed, " LORD JESUS RECEIVE MY SPIRIT" Stephen called on the Name of his God! He a Jew, full well, knowingly committed his spirit to Jesus. He knew that was blasphemy if Jesus was not God. He fully considered Jesus God. HE DID NOT MAKE A MISTAKE he knew he was about to be dead and he better say what he means, there would not be a second chance to call on YHWH. Cross Reference scripture Psalm 31:5 Into Your Hands I commit my spirit; You Have redeemed me Oh LORD God (YHWH EL) RESEARCH what it meant in the Old Testament to Call on the Name of God (YHWH) it meant the same thing when the apostles and followers of the Christos called on Jesus. First century Christ followers got the memo that so many here have totally MISSED. Jude Jesus' brother thought Jesus was insane until Jesus resurrection. Jude 1:1 (introduces himself) Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ... And ends his book with Jude 1:21 Keep yourself in the love of God as you await the mercy of our LORD Jesus Christ to bring eternal life. 24 Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present (you) unblemished in HIS glorious presence with great joy 25 to the only GOD our Saviour (be) glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all time, and now, and for all eternity. Amen. Jude is definitely calling on the Name of Jesus as God. This next scripture could not be more clear. Titus 2:11 For the grace of God has appeared bringing salvation to all men. 12 it instructs us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, to live sensible upright and godly lives in the present age. 13 AS WE AWAIT THE BLESSED HOPE AND glorious Appearance Of OUR GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST 14 He gave Himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify FOR HIMSELF A PEOPLE FOR HIS OWN POSSESSION zealous for good deeds. ---------------------------------- There is so so so much more. Jesus indeed claimed to be God and he was worshipped by the angels at His birth and by many others *(only God can accept worship,) Jesus never turned anyone away from worshipping HIM as the angels and apostles did, telling people not to worship them and to only WORSHIP THE ONE TRUE GOD.

It’s interesting how this topic keeps coming up in my studies. I have not even searched for this. I guess that means it’s time to dig in! Book of Creation. Ch. 1 9. These are the ten emanations of number. One is the Spirit of the Living God, blessed and more than blessed be the name of the Living Elohiym of Ages. The Holy Spirit is his Voice, his Spirit, and his Uttered Word. 10. Second, from the Spirit he made Air and formed for speech twenty-two letters, three of which are mothers, A, M, SH, seven are double, B, G, D, K, P, R, T, and twelve are single, E, V, Z, CH, H, I, L, N, S, O, Tz, Q, but the spirit is first among these. Third, Primitive Water. He also formed and designed from his Spirit, and from the void and formless made earth, even as a rampart, or standing wall, and varied its surface even as the crossing of beams. Fourth, from the Water, He designed Fire, and from it formed for himself a throne of honor, with Auphanim, Seraphim, Holy Animals, and ministering Angels, and with these he formed his dwelling, as is written in the text "Who maketh his angels spirits and his ministers a flaming fire." (Psalm civ. 4.) Ch. 2:5-6 “…And from Nothingness did He make something, and all forms of speech and every created thing, and from the empty void He made the solid earth, and from the non-existent He brought forth Life. He hewed, as it were, immense column or colossal pillars, out of the intangible air, and from the empty space…”

28:03 but isn’t Elohim plural? And is not Eloah used as the singular? If so, how is it a name and not the title for the Most High, Ancient of Days?

Just a waste of time! These two have no idea what they are talking about!

Ross and Everyone!!! GOCC has done an intense study in THE TRUE NAME of THE FATHER.!!! No where does scripture say not to say HIS NAME rather it says to call upon HIS NAME!!!!!!!! th-cam.com/video/EzAVWOHc_VY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=uPSyPUd99qyNaBPl

Do you think these are actually the tombs of the patriarchs... th-cam.com/users/shorts-_W4L_90HAM?si=BCzyy17rqTNBK-pp

Great teaching

Ross knows true cosmology....not this nonsense which heliocentrism is...question is, will he have the cojones to SAY it? 😊