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How to Pour a Shower Pan Correctly 'Part 2 The Curb'
Here is a link for all of those who would like to see the filling of the curb where the camera dies in Part 1.
You can see Part 1 here: th-cam.com/video/Gj39ZpwWwmY/w-d-xo.html
You can see Part 1 here: th-cam.com/video/Gj39ZpwWwmY/w-d-xo.html
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How to Pour Shower Pan Correctly!!
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Welcome! And thank you for coming. Let's learn how to pour a shower pan shall we? Here is a link to part 2, where the camera dies, if you would like to see how the curb is filled, and the liner cut. th-cam.com/video/bBYmx1ildEA/w-d-xo.html If you have any specific requests, please leave a comment, and we will make it happen for you! Thanks, and hope we can help you make your home, or your clien...
Great lesson and totally out of my league. I need one done in Fort Myers, Florida. If anyone is on here and in that area or knows someone here please comment here.
Very good 💯
Thank you so much! This is how I did my last one , only I had concrete subfloor
Whats the thing you used to sorta water proff the pre slope?
Solid solution. This is one of few methods where the liner is not cut anywhere near water. The popular method with the stacked 2x4's and those glue on corners that go over the corner cut frequently leak and rot out the 2X4's. that's why NYC requires lead pans and Mass. requires soldered copper pans. Aaron's poured curb method is just as sound as those. There is no cut anywhere except where the liner ends at the very top of, and centered in, the curb. Water cannot get out of the shower that way.
Where is this even legal to do this ? A shower pan is required to be between the wood and concrete or mortor where I'm from. This can't be legal in other states .
So wrong lol the tile guy will hate you
If I put in a like this where I live, it would fail inspection
Thanks for the video. How do you trim excess liner in the inner corners by the curb?
Great job
just install a preformed pan and tile it..easy peasy..lol
Roofing nails are garbage. They pull out.
Great video. Thanks!
Great video! Question: why lay the concrete so dry? Is there a purpose to that?
Not sold on the pre-slope. How could water find it's way to the drain between the liner and the mortar bed without wicking into the mortar before? Unless a thumb-sized hole is present I just don't see it. Agreed about the lining on subfloor prior to mortar bed. Nicely done.
Thats the point of the pre-sloped float. If there is a hole in the pan and the floor is flat the water will make its way out the hole over the years. A prefloat compells the water to run down hill past the hole and never pond on say warped oxb plywood substrate 12" x 12"wide dip or such. I say stay off the prefloat while its fresh or one causes dimples under the pan in the prefloat, thus the ponding issue is brought back into the equation. Agree with you to protect the raw wood, I always put down detri-mat or kerdi to prevent even the plywood sheets from cracking up, heaving and damaging mud bed. But I dont use the vinyl pan anymore, use the Mapei Aqua Defense etc. type waterproofing membranes for a pan. Way more versatile than trying to bend a vinyl pan on ADA applications, curbless showers, etc. I have not installed a vinyl pan in I dont remember how long, 20 years? 1st was the Mapei PRP-315 2 part pan, now the paintable ones, all good when applied to the right mil thickness. They dont make cars like they did 100 years ago, time to embrace new technology.
Finally someone knows what their doing . Slope before the waterproofing.
All the guys supporting this method in the comments 👏.... Let me tell you .. You're all wrong !! This will have leaks way before you start your project... next year when your income tax check arrives...
The very part I came here to see ...That I needed help on was not there because your camera died.
Thanks for sharing all the steps in detail. Do we have to wait for pre-slope to cure before putting shower liner ( at 5:41 )
that is sick bullshit....crapp....dont do it this way...use kerdi preformed pans and walls.....and goboard is great and go board pans !!1
Outstanding instructional video!
THANK YOU!! FINALLY a simple diagram showing the proper relationship between all the elements of a shower pan!!
Where's the pan liner
You are an imposter. Sussy boy
Finally an inside pan Corner folded correctly although I don't agree with the way you did your curb but it will definitely work with waterproofing
I think the fold was wrong, watched twice. His way, water can travel in the fold and migrate out of the pan. Just my thughts. Have been doing tile since 83, many many rodded off fat mud shower walls and dry pack mud shower pans. Concrete block or brick curbs and benches. Not this sandwiched vinyl pan crap between 2 layers of dry pack mud. Where is the structural integrity? But overall its passable, getting right on top of the fresh prefloat negates the purpose of the prefloat as it creates dimples in the prefloat, thus low spots for water to pond on as it migrates through grout, mud bed, runs down hill following sloped pan to flange weep holes. Low spots lets water pond, over time calcium, hard water can erupt through grout joints. Plus I even put my pebbles on top of the flange as there are small weep holes there too that if plugged with dry pack will eventually plug with the hard minerals, calcium, lime, iron and not let water pass them. Just another line of defense to help the drain system work for many years. .
Your shower pan looked great,until you got to the curb.it should wrap over the top,fold down to the floor 🙈
No, he did it right, way better to have the liner inside cement curb like that rather than a wood curb that it rapped with the liner. This way will last way long. This is how I have always done them.
All this technical data and drawings but the drain isnt even centered. 😂😂😂
Totally disagree with this most of this video .Bob from star light would light this one up.
I had cultured marble shower walls including the base. The base had a fiberglass lip that extended about 6 inches above the pan. No grout, a solid cultured marble wall. I hate grout because it will eventually fail and need to be regrouted and is a pain to clean.
Pour a shower pan?
Thanks for the video man
The way your liner and curb are built together is a terrible idea and plain wrong.
How many hours after leveling muds we can setup tiles?
How much and what type of material do you use for mud? Could you give us specific amount of each ingredients?
You can buy it already bagged at Home Depot, Lowes etc. Its called sand topping mix, deck mud etc. If you make it raw use 40 shovels of masonary sand and 1 bag of portland cement. Divide it back for smaller batches. Mix it dry with a hoe and shovel. Then add the water. Should be the consistency of a snowball, stays together when packed in hand, when hand opens it does not crumble apart. Its so dry to permit shaping and not like a blob of jello that gets all pushed around and is difficult to contour. To make cement for the walls buy bagged mortar mix or do the 40 shovels of masonary sand, 1 bag of portland cement and 1/2 bag of lime.
That curb will leak.
I hope Bob with star tile watches this video, he is so against a pre slope. Way better than I've seen others do.
Bob doesnt do his showers correctly either...
@@Trucker-Belly ,hey man ,I've done tile for about 40 years, takes pride and time to give a quality job. But Bob needs to cut grass or paint
@@jamesderbaum9678 yeah. Ive been doing it for only 6 years but I got a lot of trades under my belt which help out when doing tile in a lot of cases. Ive been injured several times from roofing and the military so now that Im older I think tile is just about all I can do now. I like doing showers and my work turns out really good. I want to keep moving up and thats why Im always watching these videos.
@@Trucker-Belly be sure never use treated lumber, it swells ,which will crack joints and tile, I my self I'm fighting cancer, what a fight... Wish I could show you trade methods.
@@jamesderbaum9678 sorry to hear that. I wish you could show me. I have a full time job doing mostly showers but 100% tile. Nobody else in the company is “great” and I can only learn from watching TH-cam videos. In one way its nice bc I work alone 99% of the time but Im always stressed. So far everything Ive done has come out wonderful and Im not just saying that lol
Please stop making videos, learn how to do things properly before making videos.
Your curb is going to fail
coze he didn't put any 2x4s and drive handful of nails in the membrane ?
How would I do this when my drain is a few inches from the curb? I bought the pre pitch kit and quick pitch kit but seems that the perimeter will be a lot lower near the curb.
Never use this style....use Wedi or Schluter Kerdi...no mortar requred .very very old style suspect to fail....never use mortar...prehistoric !!
kinda funny I've been watching video after video and the failed shower pans are always the new foam ones professionally installed or not
@@handydandyhomes NO....mortar pans are the oldschool garbage...the foam core base and sides is the only way to go !!!
@@Mrcrisis2012 just saying the videos I have watched all of them foam ,wedi , kurdi so on im sure there are mortar pan failures just from what I've been watching its all foam failures professionally installed
Is the first dry pack necessary if you are doing this on a slab? Thanks.
That a question I had . As tedious as it was I actually chiseled out my concrete foundation to attain a 1/4 inch per foot for the pre slope. I regained the height of the shower flooring ( some) by pouring a 1 and a 1/2 mud base on the liner. At the drain end ( tub to shower conversion) the floor level was back to where it was and at the far end ( I removed a 60 inch tub) the flooring was an inch and a half above the original foundation floor level. I installed a curb for this installation.
It would be good if you can cut 1by2 strip of wood and pitch it down the drain, cut it so its thinner as u go.
Will try this.
AbsoLUTE WORST way to do a curb. I get so tired of tearouts where people are FORCED to spend money on a new shower because of a leak where THIS is the leak! That damn curb to wall cut in the liner at the ends of the curb. Why do people STILL do this this way. Just absolutely RIDICULOUS! "But I Redguard it." Yeah, well if you did the liner and curb properly in the FIRST place, you wouldn't NEED Redguard.
dude,skip the tunes
Do I need to wear Under Armour underwear or is Fruit of the Loom ok for it not to leak?
Either brand is fine. Your belt however should be tight enough to keep the butt crack at bay.
I've been using Fruit of the Loom for years, I haven't had any leaks.
Pull your frickin pants up and be a white man
Pan inside curb ... only one I seen done correctly
Exactly
Way too much get real.... nice beard though
I couldn’t find any of the mortars at my local store u had listed I found something called spec v will this work
5 parts sand one part Portland cement