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I would highly recommend the Pilot. Space might be a little tight, though, if there are six total of you (assuming you’re using the 3rd row) in the vehicle for long trips plus baggage.

@@FourTheWheels there are 4 total we have 2 teens, but awesome thank you for the review.

@@altimaguy03ifyGotcha! You’ll be just fine then. Good luck!

Likely a combination of more advanced motor oils, increased engine oil capacities, greater internal engine lubrication ability…and a desire by manufacturers to reduce the number of “free” oil changes on some new cars that they have to reimburse dealers for.

Appreciate your kind comment! Glad the video was helpful. More real estate on the info screen (and better integration with the dash) would be nice, but I think you’ll find it perfectly adequate. Enjoy your new Pilot!

Thanks so much for your reply! I will keep up with your channel for updates on ownership! 😀

Thx @zukme! See ya at a future Cars and Coffee! Looking forward to seeing what you do with your Kei truck.

Thanks for watching!

That is true. You might have identified the one and only benefit! 😅

Good question. The native navigation system on my 2023 is not a strongpoint. It’s a bit cumbersome to use. Thankfully the wireless Apple CarPlay works well and I just use my iPhone’s Google Maps which displays perfectly on the Pilot’s infotainment display.

There’s no reason to pay MSRP on a new Pilot in today’s world. The TX350 is a great vehicle. Well done!

Thanks for that! It’s been fun - and a challenge - keeping the engine as clean as the exterior.

Yes, there is some ambient lighting. Primary place I notice is on the front driver and passenger door cards. Overall very thoughtful ambient lighting on key places where you might look or reach for things.

Thx for pointing this out. I have changed my cabin filter and engine air filter and forgot to mention those in the vid. I have not done a fuel treatment yet.

Thanks for the comment and your observation about the possible Civic wiper design.

Well done on that deal, and thx for sharing.

​@FourTheWheels Thanks ours is Radiant Red, which matches my Infrared '23 Lexus IS500.

⁠@@moonman_8935Love the IS500! Last of its kind of sedan with a V8. Certainly a keeper for long term collectability.

Glad I could help!

I think I know what you’re referring to. Yes, below 30mph there can be some slight jerkyness, especially when trying to easily lope along between 20-30 mph and the lower gearing creates something that feels like a bit of engine compression that in turn causes the transmission to check up. For me I notice it most in slow speed commuter traffic or driving slower in my nhood. Hard to describe but it hasn’t concerned me from a mechanical standpoint. To me feels like a characteristic of this second gen 10 speed auto. Outside of this characteristic, I have found the transmission to be very smooth and responsive. Your experience like what I describe?

@@FourTheWheels I get an occasional surge when accelerating between 1st and 2nd gear. I also get a jolt when slowing down around 25mph. Almost like the car lets out the clutch too quickly and it upsets the smoothness of the transition between gears. I’m more inclined to think it’s a programming issue than a mechanical fault. At least that’s what I’m hoping. I planned on keeping this car for the next 200,000 miles but time will tell I guess.

@@dadslovetacos interesting. Reasonable thought about the programming. Sounds like you’ve already documented it with the dealer. Maybe bring it up again before the power train warranty expires (if the behavior persists) so there’s good documentation of your concern in your service records should something worse develop outside your warranty period.

Glad it was helpful!

Thx my friend! Too bad that Honda of Canada doesn’t offer the same program. Here’s an Amazon link to a device that will reverse the stop/start relay (to default off instead of default on); a.co/d/4sDhBgw . I have not tried it but it’s on my “Saved” list. May be a few other sellers out there. Tire/road noise is really my only big annoyance at this point. I tentatively plan to try Michelin Primacy A/S tires when I need a new set. Just put the Primacy A/S tires on my RDX and they are quiet. I’ve owned three Hondas with various iterations of their V6. All three were quiet, smooth revving, and relatively fuel efficient. Having said that, I will admit that the higher output K20C 4-cylinder turbo engine might be a good match for the Pilot. Would definitely offer more low end torque. We’ll see if that plays out in the future…or some hybrid version. Good luck with your decision!

@ediliver4255 thx! Acceleration is fully adequate. No issues with a full load (just be sure to move drive mode from Econ to Normal if you’ve got a full load). 1-2 gearing is pretty low so takes off easily from a stoplight. When up to speed torque feel is a little lower than I’d prefer, though, and you will notice that especially when needing to pass quickly.

Yes, pls see an earlier reply that includes the link.

Yeah, new car reviews are great but the long term owner experience is really where you learn how a vehicle performs in real life. Thx for commenting.

Good to hear. That was going to be my other approach after the tinfoil.

Congrats! One word of advice (plan to mention in a future vid). I’ve learned that rotating the tires at the 8-9k mark with the free Honda oil change is too long. Keep to around 5-6k miles and the tires should wear more evenly (and thus reduce the chance of cupping and the tires being a little louder).

@@FourTheWheels thank you I appreciate that! Keep the great videos coming

It has a hill stop feature so it won’t roll back.

Only on rare occasions have I seen what appears to be a/c condensation drips at the back of my Pilot. Might only occur under certain conditions based on humidity and how hard a/c is running. On my previous Odyssey the rear dripped more frequently during a/c use.

@@FourTheWheels thanks for sharing

I don’t think so. No change settings apparent to me. Pls advise on menu path to make the setting change.

Great comments and thx for sharing. The tin foil approach is a bit challenging but if you can get it tucked in well and then don’t budge it when spinning off the filter you’ll be ok. Still, the filter funnel tool is the easiest and best approach. Also, the Honda two year free maint really only covers two oil changes and two tire rotations. Doesn’t cover the rear dif fluid service at 15k miles, which they should IMO. DIY approach certainly saves a lot of money over the long run.

Glad I could provide some helpful owner insights. Good luck with whatever you decide to purchase.

Have you looked at after market tow/hitch systems? I have looked at companies like e-trailer,and they offer simple workarounds on the install. Have not done it yet (*JUST* bought our 2025 Pilot 3 weeks ago!), but seems like a one hour install at the most, without replacing the bumper with one with a cutout and keeping the trunk opening sensor in place…

@@PascalBrunet77I have not. I know there are some aftermarket options but I never felt they fit or looked as seamlessly integrated as the OEM set up. Did you go with an aftermarket version?

I think this function was made on the decision that brakes are cheaper then transmissions. If the tranny is constantly changing gears to hold speed, that is more wear and tear on it, where as brake pads are cheap. Just my two cents. BTW, we picked up a used 2023 Pilot Elite in this same color and we love it. 13k miles on it and I agree with nearly all the assessments you make.

They mostly just cover up the metal at the bottom of the door. At least with the plastic it doesn’t get chipped from rocks being kicked up from the tires.

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Tool is designed for the new 3.5 liter V6 Honda/Acura engine and newer 3.0 liter turbocharged Acura engine.

In your case does the push button electronic shifter not automatically put the tranny into park when the engine turns off (if not already in park), which then kills the radio? That’s what happens to me.

That would be cool…a Type R Pilot?! Standard power is fine but a little more torque would be nice. Would be interesting if Honda offered the 2.0 turbo motor in the Pilot making somewhere around 300 hp and 310 ft lbs.

It reclines to the same degree as the two outboard seats.

Good luck with your purchase! I have several other cars with straight dual exhausts and have never had any issues with smoke or heat, but angling down would mitigate the potential.

Yeah, I should have captured that last part. It’s done through the infotainment system. Pretty easy. Owner’s manual will say and I recall there are one or two TH-cam videos on how to reset the maint minder.

Two great SUVs playing different roles. You’re likely gonna be much more comfortable in the Pilot. Good luck!

The overall greatness of the complete package certainly makes it easier to live with the nit picks!

Agree 💯

@@FourTheWheels I’m looking to get an exl in the future. I noticed prices drop on the pilot,passport and ridgeline much faster than Honda’s 4 cylinders. One can easily get a pilot exl for about $3-$5 less than stick with only several thousand miles on them. I like the hustle

@@NYGFRANK87 good luck! You might even try to get $2K off on a new one in this market.

Thanks!