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Four The Wheels
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RJ here. Auto enthusiast and long time Honda/Acura owner.
2023 Honda Pilot DIY Oil Change
American Honda offers free oil changes for the first two years or 24,000 miles on the 2023 Pilot. These oil change intervals appear to come around 8,000-9,500 miles per interval, depending on one’s driving habits. IMO this is too long of an interval if you plan to keep the vehicle a long time and avoid some long term maintenance issues. I am doing mid interval DIY oil changes around 4,500 miles and not resetting the oil change maintenance minder (will let Honda dealership reset during the free oil change at the full interval). I recommend using only genuine Honda oil filters (15400-PLM-A02) and 14mm crush washers (I have found Honda washers to provide slightly better “crush” characteristics than other aftermarket brands which are harder.). Once the free oil changes run out, my plan is to change the engine oil around every 5,000 miles - which is a more proactive approach than the factory recommendation.
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2023 Honda Pilot Elite 15K Mile Owner Review
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Thanks for watching! Detailed review of likes, rethink areas, and nit picks of my 2023 Honda Pilot Elite.
Question? Does it roll back when you stop on hill and go. Or it has a delay before it rolls back?
In 15 k you already know is the most reliable? Ok. Sure
I have a 2025 pilot touring and noticed that they have two drain hoses for the air conditioning one for the front and one for the back the one for the back it’s not water coming out only the one for the front. Any suggestions
Only on rare occasions have I seen what appears to be a/c condensation drips at the back of my Pilot. Might only occur under certain conditions based on humidity and how hard a/c is running. On my previous Odyssey the rear dripped more frequently during a/c use.
@@FourTheWheels thanks for sharing
Go to your infotainment settings to change the radio to turning off when you’d like it to.
I don’t think so. No change settings apparent to me. Pls advise on menu path to make the setting change.
Couldn't get your foil trick to work. Made a complete mess spinning the oil filter off. Ended up with most of that filter oil running down the shrouding on the undercarriage for the next few days. Even after buying the oil change tool for next time at about $60, my first self service tire rotation and full synthetic oil change with a premium Honda filter is still less than the cost of having the dealer do that service, and without the hassle of sitting in their waiting room for a couple of hours. The next day I did the rear differential fluid service for about $35 more dollars. Also - even though you get 2 years of some factory maintenance package (which may not include filter changes every time) designed to get our in the habit of going to your dealer for routine services, they aren't using full synthetic for that and my Honda dealer is a 40 minute ride from home so not convenient for routine maintenance. Bottom line - buy the $60 oil change tool to catch the filter draining when you spin it off. I doubt very many places other than the dealer will have this tool. And without it the oil filter service makes a mess.
Great comments and thx for sharing. The tin foil approach is a bit challenging but if you can get it tucked in well and then don’t budge it when spinning off the filter you’ll be ok. Still, the filter funnel tool is the easiest and best approach. Also, the Honda two year free maint really only covers two oil changes and two tire rotations. Doesn’t cover the rear dif fluid service at 15k miles, which they should IMO. DIY approach certainly saves a lot of money over the long run.
What is wrong with this guy ??? All he says bad about Honda Pilot … I bought this car it’s so good and comfortable spacious room .. kids and wife they love it .. if you complaining too much then go buy a BMW or Tesla .. am sure you will complain that too ..
Your points about the trailer hitch and braking during cruise control are notable observations that will influence my purchase. Thanks a lot for sharing. I really liked your video. Well done.
Glad I could provide some helpful owner insights. Good luck with whatever you decide to purchase.
Not sure but I’d guess the plastic at the bottom on the sides of the vehicle is there to reduce exposure to rust. Those are the first parts of the car to rust typically so making them out of plastic provides some protection there.
They mostly just cover up the metal at the bottom of the door. At least with the plastic it doesn’t get chipped from rocks being kicked up from the tires.
Do you have the link for Hondas oil filter tool. the one you don't have?
acura.snapon.com/HondaAcura/Catalog/Product?id=VSB02C000053
Tool is designed for the new 3.5 liter V6 Honda/Acura engine and newer 3.0 liter turbocharged Acura engine.
In my honda ridgeline. It also turn off the radio when im turning off ignition. But if i want to continuosly use the radio after turning off the engine, i let the engine stay in drive mode before turning off the engine. For black trims, i applied ceramic coating and will stay vibrant
In your case does the push button electronic shifter not automatically put the tranny into park when the engine turns off (if not already in park), which then kills the radio? That’s what happens to me.
More horse is what honda needs to add ..sport trim with 400 hp!
That would be cool…a Type R Pilot?! Standard power is fine but a little more torque would be nice. Would be interesting if Honda offered the 2.0 turbo motor in the Pilot making somewhere around 300 hp and 310 ft lbs.
That tow-hitch/bumper issue is inexcusable.
Could be a silly question-wonder if the Elite 2nd row (removable) middle seat can recline, like the rest of the 2nd row seats? Thank you
It reclines to the same degree as the two outboard seats.
For me, i like the position of the exhaust pipe directed to the ground. While loading up things at the back while warming up engine during winter, i think the smoke from muffler will not go straight to my leg. Not sure if this correct, i will know once i have my 2025 honda pilot at the end of april.
Good luck with your purchase! I have several other cars with straight dual exhausts and have never had any issues with smoke or heat, but angling down would mitigate the potential.
how to reset?
Yeah, I should have captured that last part. It’s done through the infotainment system. Pretty easy. Owner’s manual will say and I recall there are one or two TH-cam videos on how to reset the maint minder.
Wireless charger on my 2022 F150 does the same thing. It’s pretty much a phone heater, not a charger.
We test drove a 2034 Touring and I really like it. We have a 4Runner and it is highly modded for off-roading, especially at night. Hard to let it go but I miss having heated seats and leather seats that are comfortable. We can’t do sedans, I’m the size of a linebacker and they are also expensive to insure for us. (Thanks Nevada).
Two great SUVs playing different roles. You’re likely gonna be much more comfortable in the Pilot. Good luck!
Under the seat still the same in 2024, I just don't look there! Most cars apile the brakes for cruise control going down hill, you could shut it off if its a big hill. You are picky like me. But I over look things because its a great car!
The overall greatness of the complete package certainly makes it easier to live with the nit picks!
At that price Honda needed to put real exhaust tips. The MDX has it
Agree 💯
@@FourTheWheels I’m looking to get an exl in the future. I noticed prices drop on the pilot,passport and ridgeline much faster than Honda’s 4 cylinders. One can easily get a pilot exl for about $3-$5 less than stick with only several thousand miles on them. I like the hustle
@@NYGFRANK87 good luck! You might even try to get $2K off on a new one in this market.
Great video
Thanks!
What i absolutely hate in HP2023 is a quality of paint (they saved a lot on clear coat) and driver avarness system when you actually need to move wheel to disable alarm. It is dangerous. What I will also improve is a noise from the engine (I am not a fun of F1 engine noise) and shaky feeling from suspension. Otherwise, the best buy for $
What the poor level door engineering. Under 5mm is a normal. But, it is bigger than 8mm. I guess. Compare with a same priced cars. What the shameless Honda.
The marking on the oil filters are on the side indicated by triangular arrows.
Thx for the comment, correct. However, the filter goes on horizontal so it’s hard to get a good view of the triangle markings on the filter given the filter housing placement. Wish it also had markings on the end cap of the filter.
fantastic? It is a poor mechanical design. esp. door gap. What the fuck door gap and too weak gear cover(piano black). It is worse than Hyundai/Kia car.
Love this Video, very informative! everything that he said is very realistic and accurate for me, though i can deal with most of everything that needed to be improved, there is 1 thing that i can not deal to buy this fantastic SUV, that is the gas tank for me, its the deal breaker for me, i need a 500 miles range vehicle if i spent 50k plus, after everything done , it's probably about 60k. Sorry Honda !
Thx for watching! If I’m easy on the gas and can eke out 27 mpg on the highway I can get close to 400 miles when the gas light comes on. If you’re going 75mph+ I’d expect around 340-360 miles. Gas tank size is disappointing, but it hasn’t been too much of an issue for us…but haven’t had to drive across the country, yet!
Picked up a 2024 Elite last Nov... hitting 6500 miles .. I do oil every 6K and balance and rotate the tires as well at same interval. That routine got the previous Pilot EX to 279K miles
Congrats and good luck getting past 279k with your new Pilot!
Thank you for the thorough and objective review! The best review on the 2023 Honda Pilot.
Kind of you to say that. Thx for watching and leaving a comment!
Think of the parking brake control this way…pull up on the switch to engage like a “fly off” parking brake like old Hondas, push down to release. I have a 2020 RDX and engage the parking brake like the old-time “step-on” parking brake…push the switch; pull to disengage…like old cars. Just a thought. I share your pain regarding the wipers. Whoever approved the wiper design has never lived in a snowy/icy climate. I like to lift my wipers off the windshield after parking for the night…beats having to peel the wipers off glass in the AM. I’m getting close to pulling the trigger on a new ‘24 EX-L Pilot. 😊
Interesting way of thinking about the e-parking brake approach. Thx for sharing. Wish Honda would go back to a wiper arm design like the type used on the ‘13-‘17 Accord.
@@FourTheWheels, I agree regarding the wipers. I can’t lift the wipers off the glass on my RDX, my wife’s CX-30 or the Acura TLX I had before my RDX. Yet my son’s ‘23 F150 has the feature. 😕. I think Honda does it for aerodynamic reasons. As much of a pain it is at the gas station, try digging ice and snow out of that deep pocket in the winter with non-lifting wipers…it’s a ROYAL pain. Do you happen to know if the Pilot has self-pairing TPMS sensors? I run snow tires on all 4 wheels on my car in the winter.
@@MrGarfield4 not sure on your TPMS question, but I believe yes. Perhaps we can get another viewer to chime in…
I bought a 23 Pilot Touring and here are my peeves: Bad=no engine temp gauge, Worse=No 360 degree camera. And what really pisses me off=no CD player.
isn't it on the left side of the dash 6:39
Yep, the cd player has gone the way of the 8-track and cassette decks! The temp gauge is on the bottom left of the IP - four bars equals normal temp. 360 camera was an important feature for me. Unfortunately only comes on Elite and Trailsport.
New cars no longer offer CD players…APPLE CARPLAY replaced cd players and navigation systems…
The Honda pilot is awesome omg there isn’t a vehicle out there that doesn’t have things wrong with them !!! But overall it is the best of all SUVs and if you need a 12” screen get glasses gee wiz
Yep, hard to please every owner with all the various details. Thank goodness I got new glasses this year! 😅
Have been considering this vehicle for our next one but the wipers that can't be completely raised is a no-go in the northern climates with snow and freezing rain. Thanks for the review.
One consolation is that on my trim the electronic wiper deicer feature works well at the base of the windshield to melt any ice frozen to the wiper blades. Overall, though, the wiper arm design is a real PITA.
Excellent first-hand review. I appreciate your observations and recommendations. Your insight is helping me decide between the Pilot Elite and Palisade Calligraphy.
Glad the video and my user perspectives are helpful. Tough choice on the two SUVs. Palisade has more tech and a more elegant cabin but the Pilot will likely have better long term reliability and higher resale. Good luck with your choice!
Surprised you didn’t say a miss on this is the lack of a rearview mirror camera if the view is blocked by luggage or passengers…especially in top trim..
Great point. I should’ve included the lack of a digital rear view camera option as a nit pick. It was on my list at one point! Overall, though, haven’t noticed too many issues getting good views looking outside the vehicle if you get all your mirrors set up correctly.
I might buy one of these once more used ones pop up. My other choice is a GX 460 which can be had for mid 40s for one that's a couple years old
Great video. I hope you have or will make a video on the 2024 pilot
Thx! I’m not aware of any changes from the 2023 to the 2024 model. Likely gonna have to wait for the mid-cycle refresh to see if any of my rethink and not-picks get addressed.
Thanks RJ! Just bought the 2024 Elite, I love it! Definitely chose it for Honda's reputation for reliability!
Congrats! I think you’ll really enjoy it.
Regarding the small infotainment system display, it is disappointing that its smaller than the the other cars in this class. But have you found the size to be an actual problem in real life usage? Also, how are the safety features on the pilot? On my 2016 Odyssey the phantom brake warnings are too sensitive and not useful.
It would be nice to have some more “real estate” on the screen but I have not found it to be a problem. The menus on the screen are simple to navigate to what you want from the infotainment system. And, it has yet to glitch on me. Safety features work as designed and work well. Only minor concern for me is in certain bright light conditions it can sometimes be difficult to see the blind spot yellow warning light on the outside mirrors - for me not enough color contrast from the yellow warning light to the silver mirror finish of the side mirrors.
Oh my god yes, our 2013 Honda Ody is on its 5th set of front brakes at 240,000 kms ... Its brutal how quick they warp
Had a 2012 Odyssey before the 2023 Pilot. Yep, roughly the same experience with the rotors/brakes driving it 230k miles.
proper fog lights only illuminate off to the side. It's to give you bearing when you can't see straight ahead. Your complaint is more with the headlights than the Fog lights. Flush mount and raised rails are not a trend. Some cars choose them others don't. Most higher end car have flush mount. Buy and Audi if you want those. Most vehicles competing with the Pilot have raised rail. Couldn't agree more on the Display. Honda will move on from it, but by then everyone else will be on to the next thing and they will still be lagging behind. I have the same trim level, I also have some higher end cars. I had hondas for many years, many years ago, we're back in one for the first time in 20 years. Honda needs to change their business model, they aren't competitive, and just riding the wave of being bulletproof. Not going to be a sustainable path for them. I honestly feel like I am driving a cheap chincy car compared to other cars I've owned. Honda is way behind in tech, and features, and overall quality. It's a decent "package" but it stops there.
Thx for the comments and observations. Fair point that side illumination is the primary benefit of fog lights. I own and have owned Hondas where the fog lights also added a bit of extra near lower front distance illumination so that’s where I base my observation. IMO the Subaru Ascent and Pilot have the most rugged and “old fashioned” looking roof rails. A quick pic search on Google shows many competitors (Telluride, Palisade, Grand Highlander, CX-90 as examples) using the low profile roof rails with others like the Explorer, Traverse, and Grand Cherokee going with something a bit in between. Interestingly, it also looks like Kia may have switched to the more rugged looking roof rails for their 2024 model. You’re right that the lower profile rails are more consistently present on luxury SUV models.
It's just a minivan without the sliding doors that's all it's still a beautiful
Thank you for a very informative and honest perspective from an owner’s perspective. I am thinking of pulling the trigger on one but cannot decide on the Elite vs. Touring trim. Can you tell me your perspective on the multicamera system on the Elite (shared with the Trailsport)? I cannot tell how useful it is in the real world situations or is it gimmick.
Appreciate your comment! I find the 360 multi-camera view very useful and worth it. 360 view is great for parking in tight spaces and the front camera automatically turns on when you get close to objects such as pulling into parking stalls with a car in front of you, a curb, garage front wall or objects in front of car, or shrubs in front of a parking spot. The 360 views turn off automatically when the vehicle passes 15 mph (and won’t display when going faster than 15 mph). The front view can also be turned on manually with a button on the end of the right stalk when below 15 mph.
Totally agree on plastic body cladding! Borderline dealbreaker especially on the top trim
Is there a way to move the wiper blades when the car is off? In my VW GTI you push down on the wiper stalk after turning the ignition off, and they sweep to the "up" position where they can be serviced.
Here’s what the owner’s manual says… “Set the power mode to VEHICLE OFF. While holding the wiper switch in the MIST position, set the power mode to ON, then to VEHICLE OFF. Both wiper arms are set to the maintenance position as shown in the image.” The image then shows the wipers in a 90 degree position (pointing skyward).
Lol for that price I'd expect it to have at least a 12 inch display 😢😂😂 this interior looks like my 24 civic touring
Perhaps more than other brands there certainly is a lot of interior dash layout similarity among all Honda newer vehicles, particularly the instrument panel and infotainment system designs.
@FourTheWheels yeah which is a scam 🤪😅 I'm happy with my touring tho lol
Certainly helps with a consistent design language, but I would prefer more variation between a $25k Honda and a $50k Honda.
Why in the world would Honda skimp on putting true exhaust tips???WHY??
My guess is because they would likely need some type of metal shroud around the exhaust tip or other heat resistant material to mitigate the heat transfer around the bumper and that adds cost…perhaps only a few extra bucks but when you’re building a vehicle with thousands of parts, every few bucks here and there adds up to real impact on the sticker price.
Dude I work for honda. 2022 and 23 pilots used the same brakes lmfao 😂
Well, you’d be wrong. 😂 2022 Pilot has 12.6” disks in front and 13” in rear. 2023 has 13.8” in front and 13” in rear.
Very well said in all of your points... You hit every major point and Honda should use your video for engineering.
Thx, appreciate that! Certainly hope my observations and the many comments like yours can influence the mid cycle refresh.
HONDA ENGINEERS ARE YOU LISTENING? I agree 100% about the cruise control, why it doesn't downshift or have a lax behavior blows my mind. I am constantly cancelling, and downshifting like you mentioned to hold hills that are miles long. I can just see what the other drivers are thinking, like why is this guy riding his brakes so much?? It also drives me nuts that it has no tolerance for coasting on a slight downhill. I get if you're coming up on a car, ya gotta brake. But there's literally nobody around and it brakes like there's a speedcheck ahead. Also, I can't comment on the wireless charger much as it doesn't work with my particular phone case and iphone. Only if I take the phone out of the case, unfortunately.
You hit the nail on the head with the cruise control. Well said. It’s particularly annoying if you’re on a stretch of highway with a lot of small hills…downshifting to maintain speed up the hill and then constant, regular brake applications on the downside of the hill. The repeated pattern gets old and I have to turn off cruise.
@@FourTheWheels For sure!! They could even do the EV thing where if they downshift and the car is decelerating, they light the brake lights (but not the physical brakes). Seems like a no brainer.
The lack of a step bumper on the back is regretful. The push buttons for the transmission should be on the dash to make more workspace on the center console.
Got the elite too! Dealership here has been doing the complimentary oil change every 3k or 3 months. Thanks for giving me a sneak peak. By the way at 6k the valve cover was leaking aleady. Got it resealed under warranty.
Congrats and thx for sharing the info in the valve cover issue. Nice of the dealership to do the early complimentary oil changes.
My dealer doesn't do my first oil change until my light went off at 8k
I had to ask very nicely to get dealer to do it at 20% on the maint minder…
@@FourTheWheelsmy dealership refused to oil change at 20% oil life lol they said blah blah it will ruin the engine lmao for early oil change?? like how? i patiently waited until it showed up and it was 6,300miles
@@jonathanKogthat’s frustrating. Probably depends on different dealerships and how reasonable/flexible their management is.