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When will the stream start at the event?

Thanks for the great episode guys Love the channel If you go two handed with a hand and a half sword do u ignore minus one penalty on a 6

Usurpers you can take a banger through on in with the evil Rohan troops

As someone playing in this event as Minas Morgul, after a bunch of testing I ended up cutting the spectres entirely. They're incredibly lackluster in a fight considering how expensive they are and because their fell light ability is now directly towards its super trival for a decent player to completely block valuable models from being pulled out of position. Two models basing a banner or something else valuable renders the pull impossible. It was just better to take more orcs. The WK on fell beast is a must take. Not only because of his fight six buff but with the addition of bladewrath and the way monsterous charge and cavalry stack in this edition he's capable of throwing out ten strength six wound rolls that reroll all fails. Add in the fact he's a 12" flyer with heroic combat and he's an insane assassin. Because he's a monster I've had games where he's gone in, killed two guys in the front line, killed the spear supports, charged again and knocked out another 2-3 guys in the second combat or jumped on an exposed support piece like a banner (or Saruman once). Plus if he gets tagged he can either D3+3 barge to get into something tasty or more or less guarantee a targeted hurl with his 4+ int. The fell beast takes a powerful spellcaster who is now decent at winning fights (and fantastic at killing when he does) and then gives him the benefits of all the monster buffs on top. You've not lived until you move 12", compel a cav model 5" into combat with you (because 17" away from the flyer is safe, right?), heroic combat, win, fly another 12" and kill your opponent's most important model.

As a correction, a unit in shieldwall that loses the duel roll to a charging cavalry model still gets the shieldwall bonus. The rule states that the knockdown happens AFTER backing away, meanwhile shieldwall is calculated BEFORE models back away.

Honestly think dunalnd players are falling for the trap of the crebain. I honestly don't think they are good in the dunland lists and don't provide enough value which is taking up their numbers. 20 points for essentially a flying model imo isn't good enough. They are only good at getting to places on hold ground and fog and maybe setting up for sneaky traps but honestly think your better off with 4 more dunalnd models. You don't really need help with traps when you mob something and you can also casually send models to objectives with the numbers you have.

Been trying to say to my nooby locals that numbers are king in this game and this data backs it.

450 points is really small

Usurpers can get a banner on Thorne's warband with the traitors! So I think he's the first pick over Freca. Cave troll I think is actually done really dirty this edition if you compare to mordor trolls or gundy ogres, losing burly was really unfortunate coupled with going to a bigger base! Could do with being a bit cheaper.

The reason for the drummer is actually warband space as you could only fit 3 more in for him and be 8 under which means it’s less of a cost.

Time to dig my box of berserkers out :D

Is goblin town dead

No Shadows of Angmar???

Were is goblin town ??

I'm only taking Thorin's company, in barrels, with leggy and tauriel in 2025. So there.

I personally think elf factions besides lothlorien got a huge buff. Lots of stuff around them got nerfed, no more boromir banner out classing your army. Elf shooting is above average, the big one is for 9 points base they get f5, shoot 3, d5, high courage elven made hand and a half sword so they can choose to 2 hand or not and now that 2 hand keeps 6s its worth spamming now. I personally think the 2 handed elven made needs to be inbuilt their cost now.

Would really pay if Elliot did watch the film or did his research 😅

Thanks for the great bat rep, im a totally new player so unsure about all models, What are the models you call nuns?

can say a lot, as I hate good armies cant wait for the evil video :D

It's egregious that Gil-galad doesn't have Heroic Strike anymore (along with the lack of shield and horse). He's meant to be the greatest elven warrior of the Second Age, but can't Strike against the most powerful models. There is 0 incentive to take him over Elrond in The Last Alliance, which is a shame, because he is meant to be the overall leader alongside Elendil. And there is less incentive to take Lindon, when Rivendell is simply the better-written army. Heroic Strength is nice, but Gil-galad had that last edition, and so isn't gaining anything new. For the increase in points, he has only lost resources (Shield, Horse, Strike, and Blood and Glory).

At 650 last alliance you get a 30 model army, with 10 strenght 3 shots of which 7 are elves, amazing battleline, elrond and isildur, so ring shenanigans , wrath of bruinen can opener, foresight which synergizes amazingly well with the whirl of blades special rule, id say its up there for this 650 pick, naturally elven ring elrond will be your leader very ranky

Defenders of the pelennor field, terror frontline, good shooting, F4 backline, decent magic, 6 inch banner. Remembers me of a certain list...

Realms of men is esentially the only playable list in this edition thus far.

I think you have a mistake. Citadel Guards do not get +1 to wounded when shoting. Only in hand-to-hand combat. Anyone can confirm or deny?

Faramir's Wizard Pupil wouldnt work for Recon's condition because once models are off the board they are not within range of the effect. Faramir would have Dominant 2, but nobody else would. Still for sure going to steal a scenario like Hold Ground a few times just as you said. Gil-Galad with Strength is a machine its true, but still, why did they take Heroic Defence away from him? That was also an incredible call if someone surrounded and Heroic Striked against you - you are likely to have comparable fight and win but even if you lose you are able to survive. Now its just risking a swift trip to flubbed roll city and dying if you dive for a hero and get swamped. It was also literally the only reason Sauron would ever Flames of Evil him which means it is now a flavour fail.

Thanks for the content! Please release the full Top 5 lists for each of you.

For Minas Tirith, I gotta say I like this list better than what you guys proposed; long live the Citadel Guard spam! 650 points | 42 models Minas Tirith Denethor, Steward of Gondor: (50) 7x Citadel Guard: Longbow (63) 1x Citadel Guard: Spear (9) 5x Guard of the Fountain Court (50) 1x Warrior of Minas Tirith: Banner (33) Irolas, Captain of the Guard: (65) 6x Citadel Guard: Longbow (54) 6x Citadel Guard: Spear (54) Faramir, Captain of Gondor: Exchange armour and bow for heavy armour, Horse, Shield (Without Bow) (125) 4x Warrior of Minas Tirith: Shield (36) 4x Citadel Guard: Spear (36) 5x Knight of Minas Tirith (75)

New edition tournament happening today in Aus 28th of dec

Hey I've seen this before

Honestly still think the list with boromirs banner is still the best gondor list. I think it outclasses minas tirith and anything denethor brings.

Just ents 🌳 really enjoying them and love the balance of fun/playable experience

More livestream 😍

Ride out seems so out of place in this list, I think even pure Rohan defenders of the pelennor could be better than ride out. But having said that, I have not played it, and I am very willing to be proven wrong

I think a big thing to note on Ride Out, if you call a March with a Hero (such as a free one via Aragorn), you can ignore the charge requirement as you can't charge while Marching. You can do that if your opponent has just gotten within the 10" as a way to escape and put more distance between you for another turn or two of kiting.

600-650 is actually a very good spot for LA (650 is the best; maxes out the two warbands - 32 is fine for an elite army at 650) with Elrond and Isildur but 700 starts pushing it even with 2x banners to support a wide battleline. Don't sleep on mounted Isildur because just like Elrond he also gets more mileage out of the two-handed rule when mounted (even without LotW). BTW you can get 40 models at 800 with Elrond (with horse; he is great with a horse for the 4 att on the charge for 2-handing and calculated/guaranteed channeled "bruinen-bombs" with a wider AoE/threat range with a horse - he has even got Expert Rider now), Isildur on foot w/ring and a Riv Captain along with 13 bows or 39 with 12 bows if you want to give every non-bow wielding Riv Warrior a shield (9 of them). 37 + 12 bows with both Elrond and Isildur on horse... I think pumping up those numbers as much as you can is the way to go along with Elrond and Isildur who are both absolutely top notch in this ed. (might consider Elendil at 700) On another note, I would've picked Rivendell (Knights) instead of Realms of Men (below LA). Despite weak special rules (although Invoke the Bruinen is decent), what really makes it strong is the buffed Elrond, giga-buffed Arwen and the slightly buffed Knights (1pt cheaper + elven-made lances + less prevalent Blinding Light). The new Channeling makes Wrath of Bruinen so damn good and coupled with a strong Arwen a pure Knight list is quite strong. Once that omega-buffed Glorfindel comes to Riv (along with others in AoME - I hope the twins are good), it's gon' get even better. I think even mixed arms Warrior-Knight lists are p. good with how strong the heroes supporting them are.

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When dice is that hot its not much u can do.....anyway keep up with the good work laaaads. And plz more points like 750-1000

i would love to see a trebuchet or a catapult hit that easterling blob

34:08 Can you clarify the rules clarification here? Hero A calls a Heroic Combat. A model with a spear is also engaged in the fight. Heroic Combat is successful. Hero then charges another model. Spear support supports him. That’s legal. I think you guys did it right.

The Mordor dice rolls was pure fire and Sams was so cold haha

Nice batrep! Waiting to see the new khazad stuff we get with the new edition!ggs

Sam getting a bit eggy in this one 🤣

The warg rider need promotion on capi 😎

Now that was some lemon rolling on the Mordor dice

Looking back at the final game. Jake always had a big advantage with his selected terrain piece being only just over the half way line. With James sitting back and shooting, he was never likely going to deny him controlling it, or progressing over the other side of the board himself to claim his own. I would have thought the selectable terrain pieces would have to be the two closest to the players on each side. In the new edition the piece of terrain has to be 'wholly' on the other side of the table.

Gonna need a separate ASMR upload on Ash's bedtime voice please.

Haven't watched the video yet, but props on the intro. Super crisp and fun, love it.

Love the Fiefdoms/ Rohan List. I disagree with it doing bad against cross-bows. I had 15 BRV Archers + Duinhir against 11 Iorn Hills cross-bows. Got 2 rounds of shooting before he got 1. Killed 7 in those 2 rounds. Didn't loose 1 BRV to shooting.

I'm gonna take some credit for putting a blip on Ash's winning streak. Your welcome world.

That's a peak Isengard list. Very much like my own. Will look SO different in the new edition 🥲