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I agree with you. In most time I prefer to be practical than looking for trouble. But here I wanted to check capabilities and learn. Not long ago I heard, that You can only learn off road by making mistakes and checking. And that is so true in my view. And besides it was much more fun ;)

Hi, thanks for good word and suggestion. Really good idea. After so many years I am quite used to it, but I will go off road and try to feel it again for recording purpose.

Agreed. Soil type is changing a lot.

2wd would maybe pass this test. Where 4wd pass it easily. There is not much sand in Poland. But if someone will invite me to CA I am first to go🙂

@@OutdoorAdventure0 My bad!

They have prepared Jimny. And I think it was a hit. But I would like something between Jimny and Vitara. Next their production is Vitara Electric. And I don't like it.

Hi. Part of the plastics are not very durable inside. I will cover this in next video in some time.

Hi. Mostly I would agree. But for silver pain I have no big reasons to complain. And interior I see as average. There are durable parts and some not so much. Rear camera I like very much.

Zgadzam się w 100%, to jest idealny samochód dla turystycznych włóczęgów, szczególnie w PL. Ja sam się do takich "odkrywców zakamarków" zaliczam. "Polne" drogi u nas nie są z reguły jakieś bardzo rozjeżdżone. I Vitarka sobie z większością przeszkód radzi całkiem nieźle. Teraz nie mam wyboru i bede musiał zmontować kolejne cześci filmu ;)

Hi. Thanks for watching. Noise cabin is quite subjective. I can measure noise level with my phone with different speeds on asphalt. But I have no comparison to other cars. So I am not sure if this will be any good.

Thanks for this very detailed review. I found that swirls on piano black parts can be easily removed with a cream for cleaning front light glasses: just passing the cream with cotton the black surface returns almost as new. On off-road my most common problem is the need to realign the radar, even without it being hit. The torsion of the chassis on rocky ground is enough to loose the correct alignment. Finally I bough some dark gray paint for recovering some scratch: it turned out that the same paint is also good for recovering scratches on the painted wheel. My Vitara has 96k km, and it is almost 6 years old. I change the orange bulb with silver ones (for aesthetics purpose only). I look forward to seeing your next video!

Hi. I needed to calibrate radar after some bumper hit, as well. But not much rocks, in my case. Concluding, sems location of this radar is not so good. In fact my car is couple yeras older than 3 years, almost six now and also almost 100k, I waited with pubilishing this material some time. But in general conclusions are not changed. That is why I decided to publish it anyway. I will record another one post six years mark. Good hint about Piano black.Thanks.

I have a 2023 S-Cross... it is quite noisy at high speed (wind noise). Noise is relative, of course... if you are used to driving more expensive cars, the Suzuki's will be pretty noisy at higher speed.

I am not used to more expensive ones, probably that is why I don't complain. Maybe I will try to do noise comparison with some other cars, Subaru and Kia. Then it will have some sense.

Glad you enjoy it!

Thanks for watching :) Yeah. It is one of best in SUV class. If you treat it with care ;), in off road you have big chance it will be not damaged.

To już mam zrobione z AC. W ASO. W sumie wyszło chyba na zero. Po podniesieniu stawki. Co piszesz z matami to ciekawe, a jeszcze się wygluszy przy okazji 🙂

@OutdoorAdventure0 swoją jeżdżę już ponad 5 lat i mimo że wygluszyłem prawie wszystko poza podłogą, to chyba na wiosnę zabiorę się za podłogę. W ASO to mi polecili, podobno robi największą różnicę... Jak sobie pomyślę że muszę wyjmować fotele to już mi się nie chce 😝

@mostron777 Moja Vitarka ma juz troche wiecej niz 3 lata. Troche zwlekalem z publikacja tego materialu. Ale generalnie nie zmienilo sie wiele od tego czasu. Te same refleksje generalnie. Za jakis czas jak skoncze montowac filmy z tego review, to opublikuje jeszcze taki po 6 latach. Mi halas tak bardzo nie przeszkadza. Moze sie przyzwyczailem. ;)

@@OutdoorAdventure0 jeżdżę dużo w trasy, czasem 900km jednego dnia i hałas stawał się uciążliwy, teraz już jest ok, ale wiem że może być lepiej 🙂. Czekam na kolejne materiały 🙂

Lock mode and nothing else.

You have it together with other buttons(i.e. Auto Start Off). It is icon with Car leaving curved traces and word "Off". You need to long press it to have ESP off indicator turned on in Dashbord.

When I am encountering some challenging obstacle and have time, I try to challenge the car ;) Not always it is enough interesting for video, but this time I had luck with this big patch of sand.:)

These were AT (AT Cooper Discoverer) :)

@4x4.tests.on.rollers You are correct, but there is maximum value possible. That is what I mean by 60/40 or 50/50. Also as far as I know there is always some amount of constant(initial) split provided in case of LOCK mode. I dont know what is value exactly. Someone in the past have measured electrical current given on 4WD clutch. And only in LOCK mode it is some constantly higher value.

@@OutdoorAdventure0 I drove hundreds of kilometres with measuring the control current. Initial torque split (at standstill) is like 70/30 and it varies from 99/1 to 50/50. All other modes are from 100/0 to 50/50 with no initial value and no permanent powering of rear axle.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers Oh, great. So what you say, 70/30 is when stand still in LOCK mode and latter varies, interesting. Can I ask how did you measure? I checked in OBD, but I havent noticed this measurement. Maybe I don't recognize correct name...

@@OutdoorAdventure0 You have to go to 4WD tab and watch the control current (or 4WD duty). Coupling works up to 3.0 amps (locked). Initial control current for LOCK mode is ~1.2A

@4x4.tests.on.rollers I use Car Scanner phone app for OBD. And I dont have any 4WD tab. What app do you use? Maybe I will try it.

Depends for what ;) Would be nice to have more. And when you will mount front protection of engine, you will loose around 2 centimeters. But most cases somehow I manage to went through.

Hi, soon I will reach 100K km. Minor problems with heating of front seats. Nothing big as of now. I plan to publish full review in next months.

Cooper Discoverer AT

Mi-aș dori.:) Râul Warta din Polonia.

Yeah. It was not dry. But not very wet as well. You are right probably. But in my country I dont have lot of completely dry sand patches. Under dry sand, 10-15 cm belwow, there is more wet layer. Almost always. Hoverer, I will try to find some dry place in the summer, to make test.

@@OutdoorAdventure0 Take another car with you, when you make the test, with a winch. ;) I have made the test :)

@Hoinar9 I bought recently manual winch, but with long still cable. This should do the job. Also I need to find place to test it ;)

@@OutdoorAdventure0 Don't forget that there are no trees on the beach to anchor yourself to :)

@Hoinar9 True. My maximum distance from the tree is now 60 meters including all tapes and line ;)

Oh really? I had impression that with Winter tires, he is very capable in snow. You had bad luck with this mud under snow. But normally in winter ground is frozen. Due to frozen ground, I perceive winter as easy driving - mostly without mud. 4WD is working quite well in light snow. Even in my first video on the channel I have done quite extensive test. And it went very good. What kind of problems do you have? Maybe it is problem with the tire?

@@OutdoorAdventure0 Getting stuck was definitely because of the mud underneath. But what I meant by the AWD issue with snow is that it turns itself off (due to "high heat") in deep snow (fresh snow 20cm or so, where there are no tracks) on even very slight slopes and also in fresh snow with no tracks (10cm and more) on steep slopes. I've tested it last winter with great winter tires; now I still have my AT tires (M+S) on and it's the same. So, here in the mountains where we are now getting new snow every other day, it's no good for off-roading. It goes ok for a few meters but on longer hills with fresh and reasonably deep snow (where no one has driven before) AWD turns off. If I switch the engine off and restart immediately, AWD is back on...but that doesn't really help because I'd have to do that a hundred times on a trail. It does it to prevent overheating, and for some reason only in fresh (deeper) snow... it never did it when climbing extremely steep hills, climbing on rocks, or anything else.... it just doesn't like fresh snow on hills. It is what it is... (If there are already tracks in the snow then it's fine, but no one really drives on these trails in snow, so in the vast majority of cases I'd have to drive in fresh snow.)

@ZookOffRoad-l3k Hmm, ok interesting. I havent tried a lot in fresh snow. This is very strange behavior. But maybe if too much spinning it will protect 4wd clutch... as you said. But sounds bad. Shi..ty behavior.

@@OutdoorAdventure0 There wasn't much spinning at all. It dislikes the resistance from deep snow (when driving uphill). In situations with a lot of wheel spin (like in mud on hills, or icy snow, etc) the AWD never turns off. I think it should have a higher threshold for temperature, because it clearly isn't overheated (when I switch the engine off and restart immediately, AWD is back on...which would not happen if it was overheated) - it's just a too conservative way they set it up to prevent a possible overheat. This car is great in all kinds of terrain (even where you'd think you might need 4L) except in deeper (fresh) snow (on a slope and where there are no tracks)... there its near useless.

@ZookOffRoad-l3k Ok I see, and maybe this is where reduction would be so good to have. Like I think older Vitara had.This is one feature I am really lacking. How fast this "overheat" protection is kicking in for you(for the first time)?

Thanks. :) I heard, in Romania you have plenty of places for off-road, many people from Poland is driving to Romania for off-road trips. But with more capable cars than my Vitara.

Dzięki. Ona waży tylko 1,4 tony. Opony w miarę szerokie. To i 4 koła dają radę łatwo ją ruszyć. Ta masa to zdecydowanie największa zaleta Vitary. Ostatnio jak wykopywałem się z piasku, to byłem w stanie samemu pociągnąć Vitarę za linę i się nawet trochę ruszała :)

No, widziałem to nowe elektryczne "cudo" i nawet zastanawiałem się czy nie nagrać jakiegoś filmiku. Ale poczekam chyba jak wejdzie do salonów. Żeby to obejrzeć lepiej. Ale co by tu nie mówić, ten elektryk to porażka. 400-500 kg więcej wagi. Niby trochę mocniejszy (dual) motor 180KM, w najlepszej wersji. Ja nie widzę żadnych zalet tego elektryka. Robiony na silę chyba, żeby spełnić Eko quoty. Ale przynajmniej, Jimnego już powiedzieli, że nie będą elektryfikować :)

​@@OutdoorAdventure0 Nie widzę opcji Vitary w pełni elektrycznej na polskim rynku przy obecnej ifrastrukturze produkcji i przesyłu energii elektrycznej oraz sieci punktów ładowania w Polsce. I zgadzam się, że drastyczny wzrost masy elektrycznej Vitary, to pozbawianie jej istotnej cechy, która do tej pory, znacząco wyróżniała ten model na tle konkurencji.

@wojciechbudnarowicz6684 Wsadzą do salonu i w statystykach będzie się zgadzać pewnie. Zresztą tej ich Hybrydy Plugin (przeróbka Toyoty, Across) to też nigdzie na ulicy nie widziałem. Jakaś nisza będzie. Teraz pytanie czy konkurencja też będzie wszystko elektryfikować, więc wszystkim samochodom wzrośnie masa. Dla odmiany, Toyota wypuściła swój nowy model Land Cruisera w Dieslu i w Polsce rozszedł się jak ciepłe bułeczki mimo kosmicznej ceny.

Thanks. About LOCK mode, I read someone checked electric current given on 4wd "clutch", and in LOCK mode it is much higher constantly than on other modes. So there is some amount lock of all the time in LOCK mode. But I think, it is not full from the start.

Thanks.:)

Thanks again!

Even in fwd, nice :)

Dunlop Winter Sport 5. Winter Tyres. Default size 215/55. Even they are normal road tyres, their winter type tread is helpfull in terrain.

@OutdoorAdventure0 if u get a chance I'd try Yokohama geolander go15 all terrains. Will probably fit that size or something a tad bigger. Great tyre, have on my jimny

@farhorizons I have considered them. They are little bigger than factory one but still fit well as I heard. How do you perceive go15 to behave in wet asphalt? Any side slippage in higher speeds? This is issue I have with Summer Coopers AT.

@OutdoorAdventure0 one of the best tyres around on wet roads, better than the Bridgestones, coopers or bfgs I've had in the past by miles. I've used the geolander on snowy roads ( has 3 peak certification), gravel roads, wet roads, dry roads, grass, light to moderate 4wd tracks and muddy puddles and worked far better than expected. Also no noise and don't affect fuel economy. Plus I got 95000 kms on my first set. I'm driving the 4th generation jimny at the moment but have thought about a Vitara AWD for the future. Had a hybrid turbo as a courtesy car yesterday and went well though I felt the seats were a bit uncomfortable for me. Not sure I like the low profile tyre height and lack of ground clearance though

@farhorizonz When I will completely use my coopers, I think I will switch to GeoLanders. Yeah, seats in Vitara, I have impression are prepared for Japanese size people. And I am not very big guy ;) But you can get use. Would be so nice to have Hybrid (merging best features) between Vitara and Jimny. That would be perfect car for me. :)

In such situations I use LOCK always, but tend to forgot to switch off ESP. But as I told in Video, it was digging in too fast and in no time full front was laying on the ground. Probably too heavy to drag it only by one wheel.

@@OutdoorAdventure0 Airing down will help a lot on sand, mud, snow, rocks, etc (and even once you're stuck, you may be able to get out if you air down a lot). At least sand is easy enough to shovel (and also to use traction boards). I dread the day when I get stuck in mud...yikes.

@ZookOffRoad-l3k True. Letting some air out, probably would help. Same for me with mud, worst nightmare ;)

At the front there are 2 recovery points. I do have a towbar, so in case I got stuck, I can use that at the rear.

In front in fact you have one point where you can screw the hook, but other one where is it? Also in the manual they do not recommend to use this one in front for "dynamic" pulling. In the back I use "hooks" used for "from factory transport". They are not good for dynamic pooling, but for static pooling like with winch they probably will survive (like in video). Tow bar probably would be best choice.

@@OutdoorAdventure0 Yeah, the problem is neither the front (screw in) hook nor the rear tie down points are meant for recovery, they aren't gonna survive such force.

@@joergarms1 Those are not recovery points, just tie down points for transport and a tow point (for on road towing). Neither of those will support anywhere near the force generated in an off-road recovery. Tow bar isn't very safe for recovery either but will likely be ok if one is careful. I don't do any towing but need to figure out how and where one could install proper recovery points. There is no way to mount a winch on this car; neither a winch nor rated recovery points is a recipe for disaster, sooner or later.

If you have idea for better points in the rear... Would be great, but I don't see any other option. Rear tow hook should work for static pooling well enough.

I agree, this time I over complicated driving by side of the road. This was kind of lesson/experiment learned in more-less safe environment for me. ;) But it was even not a matter of more lose ground on the side of the road, left front wheel did not loose traction at all. So the choice of the side of the road was not bad in this case. But that whole power and weight went to the front right wheel due to the position(tilt) of the car. That is why it started to dig in. Too less traction on right front, to move the whole car weight.

Hej, moja Vitara nie ma ze mną tak źle. Faktycznie dostaje czasem trochę w terenie. Ale jest cały czas garażowana pod dachem w suchym garażu. Poza tym po błocie staram się zawsze ją wymyć na ręcznej myjni. Ostatnio myje nawet zawieszenie. Na to szczególnie uczulali mnie mechanicy. Jak narazie odpukać żadnej korozji nie zauważyłem. No ale też moja Vitara ma dopiero 5 lat. Podwozia nie konserwowałem.

​@@OutdoorAdventure0 Bardzo dziękuję za odpowiedź. Jeżdźę dokładnie takim samym modelem tyle, że z 2023r. i jedynie opowieści o korozji "japończyków" mnie martwiły.

To chyba bardziej Mazda, mam nadzieję ;)

​@@OutdoorAdventure0 Proponuję obejrzeć filmiki na Stacja:Konserwacja. 🙂

Problem jest w tym, że konretna konserwacja samochodu to jest naprawdę spory koszt. Bo to nie tylko malowanie barankiem, ale częściowo rozbierają samochód. To jest dosyć droga inwestycja, jak kiedyś się orientowałem. Poza tym dół Vitary jest osłonięty, przynajmniej w części takim gumowanym plastikiem, to powinno trochę pomóc, chyba.

Asta nu este o problemă! Instalați cauciucuri 215/60 R17 +1.1cm și Eibach Pro-Kit springs +2.5cm Veți primi 18.5cm+1.1cm+2.5cm= 22.1cm ce este suficient.

​@@BazileVasile I have already did this upgrades. ( Falken Wildpeak 215/60/17 and eibach +2.5) Also installed front and rear (dif) protection.( Rear protection unfortunately lowers the car.) Still not enough for me

@canocakk în așa caz vindeți Suzuki Vitara și procurați un Suzuki jimny sau ceva mai mare de acest gen.

​@@BazileVasile Absolutely ! maybe hilux :))

@canocakk hilux e ok dacă aveți nevoie de ceva mai încăpător, în caz că dorici ceva compact pentru cărări induste prin munți și păduri atunci Suzuki Jimny e potrivit. Sensul constă în ceea că când procuri mașina trebuie să conștientizezi pentru ce ai nevoie de ea.

Yes it is. But you must be clever when you drive alone. Especially on the fields, where is no tree to to hook in with winch. I would drive much braver if I would be with second Vitara in my trip. :) I hate calling for rescue and sometimes in the middle of nowhere it is not easy to get it. To be really strong in off road, clearance probably should be 10 cm more. ;) 95% of cases you can cross most of the roads just by driving clever, without this additional clearance.

Yeah, snow I think is where it handle best. Lightweight and powerful enough.

I record it all alone. :) DJI drones have this automatic modes. It can trace point of interest or even follow behind or from the side. It is amazing, but it is easy to crash drone. Once almost I drown drone in the river in such situation ;)

Eu uso o tamanho padrão: 215/55 R17. Mas ouvi dizer que esses pneus, por exemplo, também cabem: Yokohama Geolandar A/T G015 215/60 R17 96 H. Eles deveriam elevar o carro em 1 cm, se não me engano. Mas eu não testei sozinho.

@@OutdoorAdventure0 obrigado,mesmo que estou USANDO porém quero LEVANTAR o carro vou por lift suspensão aumenta 3.08 cm e pneus 215x60x17 creio que fique top!!!

Mais de 4 cm, nada mal. Eu invejo. Depois de alterá-lo, anote se ele não balançará muito nas curvas.

Cannot agree more ;) Suzi is the best :)

Mój pierwszy taki raz w piachu. ;) Będzie odcinek pod tytułem - Jak się wydostać z piachu, mając osprzęt z allegro za 100 PLN. :)

Onun gücü var :)

Thank you :)

Dzięki. Sam sie wtedy zdziwiłem jak dobrze sobie Vitara poradziła.

Indeed. Winter is magical when there is snow and ice.

Nice to hear you like it. This is not very ipopular ganra:) My one is pure gasoline. Recently I decided to buy manual winch but a bit better quality. Still no chance to test it. With full blown electric winch, I am not sure if even there is a sensible place to mount it...

Rather low. But I guess radiator is not main concern in such case.

@@OutdoorAdventure0 Ok! Thanks. I would be worried to hit any hidden debris, but i guess you check for that before wading with a car.

@Johnfranorge I always check in such sittuation. Here water was not deep and clear. But otherwise I have wellingtons with me in the trunk. If not too deep for wellingtons, should be ok for Vitara;)