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Q&A: Atheism, Agnosticism and God of the gaps argument
A conversation with Dr Tihomir Lazic about the objections from a previous video that you can watch here: th-cam.com/video/Kk_CiciYPLs/w-d-xo.html
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Stories that shape the World
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What is the story that you have in your mind?
You are made for more - Dr Tihomir Lazic
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Five views on the resurrection of Jesus Christ
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I go deeper in this topic on my website: thequest.world/2019/05/01/busting-myths-about-jesus/ Make sure to check out my other videos and subscribe :)
Living The Life of Fullness
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Living The Life of Fullness
The Essence of Christianity
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A very simple explanation of the essence of Christianity.
Did Jesus exist? - Busting Myths About Jesus
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Is Jesus a historical person? Is the New Testament a reliable historical document? Find out in this episode! Find out even more here: bit.ly/2vxMZDS
Is there more to life than this? - The Quest for purpose -
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We often find meaning and purpose in things that don't fulfill us entirely. Maybe meaning and purpose can be found in a special kind of relationship. Maybe there is something more to life than this.
Five ways to capture a concept
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Five ways to capture a concept
Atheism is a lack of belief in a god - is it?
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People define atheism as a "lack of belief in a god or gods". That is true. But we forget that the naturalistic worldview, which is supported by most atheists, is based on some assumptions. More about worldviews: th-cam.com/video/FleAJ3B0h2Q/w-d-xo.html How to chose a worldview: th-cam.com/video/IaBmKZ2S_A0/w-d-xo.html
How to choose a worldview? - Dr Tihomir Lazic
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5 criteria to consider when choosing a worldview
Dr Tihomir Lazic about worldviews
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What are worldviews? Why are they important? What is their role in our life? In this video Dr Tihomir Lazic, who studied at Oxford University, will answer to those question.
Does it take faith to be an Atheist?
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The answer can be yes and no as well. Some atheist claim that they don't know anything about the origin of the Universe. Other atheists accept the big bang almost as a fact without even realising that it has become a belief for them. This video doesn't give you a specific answer to the question of faith in Atheism. But it makes you think deeper about the beginning of the universe and in what wa...
The probability of Jesus fulfilling the Old Testament prophecies
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Dr Peter Stoner and 600 science students calculated the probability of a man fulfilling the messianic prophecies from the Old Testament. The methodology of Dr Stoner's calculations: thequest.world/2019/03/06/the-probability-of-jesus-fulfilling-the-old-testament-prophecies/
The Quest intro
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  • @fredcalledbygod
    @fredcalledbygod 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing video, subscribed

  • @christifontenot5681
    @christifontenot5681 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is probably the best form bridging the Gap between atheist and Christians if you stick with this kind of content you can build a gap between atheist in Christians because both will watch your videos and you will have he hire likes share in content because people from both sides will watch it if this is a helpful comment please let me know if I can help I've had clairvoyance since I was a kid

  • @austinwilkerson9640
    @austinwilkerson9640 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this.

  • @igormehinagic3708
    @igormehinagic3708 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is not Jesus who is fulfilling prophecies but all the good people who wish to rediscover good things in the Bible. Jesus has nothing to do with it. Jesus is a past, we are the future.

    • @B3LL444.
      @B3LL444. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hebrews 7:3: States that Christ has "neither beginning of days nor end of life". 

Hebrews 13:8: States that "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today, yes and forever". 
 Colossians 1:16: States that Jesus created all things and upholds all things by the word of his power. 

 
John 1:1-2: States that Jesus was eternally present before his creation. 

 
 John 3:16: Promises that those who ask Jesus into their life will spend eternity in heaven with him. 

 












 John 17:3: States that eternal life is knowing the only true God and Jesus Christ. 
 Jesus is eternal. And with Him being the maker of time means He is outside of time. Jesus is just as relevant today than He was in the past. Jesus still saves. 🤍

  • @Westminstrelsy
    @Westminstrelsy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome explanation. 🙂

  • @ChristopherSmith-d2t
    @ChristopherSmith-d2t ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video. The best proof is to accept him as your savior. Your life will change in fantastic and supernatural ways. God bless

  • @toddthumphreys
    @toddthumphreys ปีที่แล้ว

    The Bible is the most heavily modified and edited single document in history. Most of it well after “AD”. Easy for predictions to come true when you are editing a book with a theme / goal in mind and some knowledge of history. Not sure this guy’s audience is being well served by this discussion. The real story here is a discussion of the evolution of the Bible as a work of literature and not a “holy text”.

    • @JP-py9xs
      @JP-py9xs 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      WOW...... we do have original scrolls of the Torah and New Testament so...... not sure what you are talking about?

    • @echidnaralsei1473
      @echidnaralsei1473 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JP-py9xsso does that mean if i can provide the original manuscript of harry potter, that means the wizard harry potter really did exist?

    • @antoniomodesto1157
      @antoniomodesto1157 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@echidnaralsei1473you missed the point by so much that I won't even bother to try change your mind

  • @toddthumphreys
    @toddthumphreys ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know any scientist or student of the scientific method would would embark on this project without first asking the fundamental question: "Were any of the books of the Bible modified from their original form AFTER the events in question took place." The fact is that they were ALL modified, changed, many completely erased in the centuries "AD". The entire premise of the "research" is flawed making it impossible to reach the conclusion in this video. One of my biggest concerns with stuff like this is that it is basically telling people to abandon critical thinking and believe in miracles - when the real answers are so readily apparent.

    • @JP-py9xs
      @JP-py9xs 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      there are thousands of manuscripts that show no changes were made and many of them are sourced out side of the Bible.

  • @valerieprice1745
    @valerieprice1745 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Bible is Truth. It's the Word of God. Stand on the Word of God. Worship the Creator, not the creation. Open your heart to Jesus Christ. We are called to be a light in the darkness.

    • @igormehinagic3708
      @igormehinagic3708 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Open your heart to the books. Read not just Jesus Christ but everything that you can read and discover to be a better person.

    • @user56233
      @user56233 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well said

  • @johnolaoluwa
    @johnolaoluwa ปีที่แล้ว

    Your video - the shoot, sound, editing, and presentation is exquisite! Award-winning - I am sure there is a special reward awaiting you for this work. Please, don't stop.

  • @ianbell2288
    @ianbell2288 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have any idea, where I can find the whole original video (in B & W) of Stoner's conclusions? I've seen it once many years ago, but can no longer find it anywhere.

  • @Stolidwisdom
    @Stolidwisdom ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the calculation consider factors such as 'prophecies that were made but never fulfilled'? Does it account for the possibility of 'human minds actively making choices that led to the fulfillment of prophecies'? Has anyone conducted an equivalent analysis comparing the prophecies of other religions? From what I've read, Stoner's work doesn't address 'prophecies that were made but never fulfilled', the potential influence of 'human minds actively making choices that led to the fulfillment of prophecies', nor does it provide an equivalent analysis comparing the prophecies of other religions. All in all these numbers are very flawed and we should stop citing this study. It does a disservice to christian apologists by making them look uneducated.

    • @JP-py9xs
      @JP-py9xs 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would love for you to show us all prophecies that were not fulfilled. and no other religion has written prophecy .

  • @morlewen7218
    @morlewen7218 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did the professor also calculate the probabilty that a skilled writer is able to implement 40 or more Massianic prophecies into a story around a man called Jesus?

    • @samwisefieri6696
      @samwisefieri6696 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We have proof when the documents were written. The prophecies were written in the Old testament. A group of books that can be proven to be written before Jesus was ever born. It's just historical fact... the first evidence of the Torah (aka the first five books of the Bible) shows up around 444 BCE. I'm not trying to be mean, but you're wanting to say the Bible is just fiction written by an influential person, but that belief is more fictional than you think the Bible is. Do some research, keep an open mind. Jesus loves you as much as anyone else, and having doubt doesn't make you wrong in and of itself, but when you continue to doubt despite so much evidence you become blind to the truth. You want so bad to believe it's not true that you'll do anything to continue to live in your ignorance. I too didn't believe once, but the truth became overwhelming when I finally closed my mouth and opened my mind. My prayer for you is that you will do the same.

    • @JP-py9xs
      @JP-py9xs 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he could but the Dead Sea scrolls and many other scrolls of antiquity written 700 plus years before Jesus was born prove that is was not

  • @Chodie4Life
    @Chodie4Life ปีที่แล้ว

    The Late Dr. Jack Van Impe explained the probability of Christ our Living Savior fulfilling prophecy in a way which even the most novice can understand. I miss Him and his wife are Ella expounding on scripture and teaching on prophecy in a manner that all can understand.

  • @DaysofElijahDaniel
    @DaysofElijahDaniel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent work I'm promoting it big time

  • @jeremybridges6015
    @jeremybridges6015 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It looks like this math didnt consider that Jesus would be born at the historical time that He was

    • @JP-py9xs
      @JP-py9xs 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what do you mean?

  • @upstatecinco
    @upstatecinco 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amen Jesus die for are sin was buried and rose on the third day according to scripture the moment you believe .. trust in that you would gain his promises of have eternal life the moment you believe that tiny true ... Narrow is the way .. not of work but by faith

  • @Leon-np3lq
    @Leon-np3lq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent, thank you

  • @davidkeszeg7120
    @davidkeszeg7120 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see the methodologies of the researches behind the 1 in X

    • @JP-py9xs
      @JP-py9xs 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you can the book is called "sciences speaks" by Peter stoner ms

  • @Unhandled_Exception
    @Unhandled_Exception 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Theist: "This adult elephant weighs 100 pounds". Atheist:" "I don't know exactly how much that adult elephant weighs, but I'm fairly certain it does not weigh 100 pounds". Theist: "You can't say it doesn't weigh 100 pounds unless you can tell me exactly how much it does weigh". I can disabuse your notion of the existence of a god without having to explain an alternate version of how the universe came about.

  • @ecv2203
    @ecv2203 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hola The Quest, soy Venezolano y estoy haciendo una investigación en cuanto a las profesías mesianicas. En tu video hablas haciendo referencia a qué Jesucristo cumplió 300 profesías y es algo que ya he escuchado en otros lugares pero no consigo una evidencia que respalde esa teoría, osea me gustaría saber cuáles son esas 300 profesías que Jesucristo cumplió. Algo como una especie de lista que corrobore que efectivamente cumplió con todas esas profecías

    • @Grzmnky
      @Grzmnky 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      si lees la biblia las vas a encontrar, nunca dejes que otro hombre aga tu tarea

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amin

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amin. Hvala

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    Extra

  • @sensoholik2081
    @sensoholik2081 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice video, clear and eideitic kind of reasoning with non-hermetic and universal language. Thanks :) btw, today it's been exactly one year after the publication of this video... coincidence? I don't think so :D

  • @matthewtenney2898
    @matthewtenney2898 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have difficulty with Dawkins scale of belief. Dr. Jordan Peterson has rightly asserted that we don't consciously choose our beliefs. Our beliefs are the natural consequence of our goals in life. Beliefs are the assumed truths necessary to achieve those goals. If my goal in life is to find real purpose for my existence, I am forced to assume as true that a Creator/God exists. As long as my goal remains, my belief must remain. There is no scale to belief. One colleague lost his car keys while walking at night. He believed it possible to find the keys by searching where he could, which was around sparsely scattered street lights. That belief is true. And it remains true regardless of how many or how few street lights there are. If you find you have a need for God, then you will have to believe that He exists and wants to be found. There is no scale.

  • @peteralleyman1945
    @peteralleyman1945 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are so wrong. Some people investigate reality and come to conclusions about the origin of the universe and the origin of life. We call them scientists and most of them know what they are talking about. Most people don't really care, but just assume that those scientists are right. Not without a reason, because they experienced that those scientists made great progress as can be easily seen in daily life. And some people hold silly superstitional beliefs, because they were brainwashed into it. And they deny reality and the part of science that clearly contradict their silly superstitions. We call them christians or, more general, religuously infected persons. They are sad people.

  • @iljuro
    @iljuro 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just one more thing about atheism/agnosticism. You can be an atheist with regards to fairly literal interpretations of specific theistic gods while still being agnostic with regards to watchmaker type deistic deities. I think this is the most common form of those calling themselves agnostic atheists. We believe in no gods, but there are only some gods we are convinced do not exist. So, unless you specify a particular interpretation of a god we happen to be atheistic about, we're agnostics who believe in no gods.

  • @NikhilRajGupta09
    @NikhilRajGupta09 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice talk

  • @Spencer050890
    @Spencer050890 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Attila! glad that you're here making videos. and this is well-done man! Subscribing and joining you on your journey!

    • @TheQuestWorld
      @TheQuestWorld 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to see a positive comment :D Thanks man, I've been following you for a while :)

  • @farvision
    @farvision 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Jesus never existed Christianity would collapse." True except that people insist on believing in lots of things that probably don't exist.

  • @realdoctorobvious
    @realdoctorobvious 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, this is all there is. It's not a problem unless you are determined to insist there must be more. Does a rock have a grander purpose? Does a lizard have a divine destiny? Ego makes you think you are super special and better than everything else - but you're not. Just think of how much better life could be if you were able to let go of your selfish ego and begin to live in reality, as it really is. Both you and the world would be so much better off. The consciousness argument is an argument from ignorance. The problem isn't the lack of an explanation but that there are multiple competing explanations that conform to the evidence, So we'll need more information before settling on the correct one. None of them, by the way, involve anything supernatural. Rats, salamanders and tuna fish also have consciousness, but you probably don't think they have a soul or go to heaven. Again, it's just more ego, demanding to be special. You're the eternal, unchanging snowflake and they're not - because they're not you.

    • @davidkeszeg7120
      @davidkeszeg7120 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey! This guy is just trying to ask questions and trying to make sense of the world from a Christian point of view. Whereas you are a person who posts videos of cats being interrupted when eating, and comments on people's videos you don't agree with because you are incapable of understanding that your view on what an evidence is for consciousness is merely a fart in a tornado. Please! Learn how to watch without commenting stupid things.. instead go back to your cat and tell all your idiotic ideas, it might listen to you.

    • @TheQuestWorld
      @TheQuestWorld 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Doc, I think it's clear that human beings are special. Even from a naturalistic viewpoint, we are amazing. Genesis 1 tells us that God created human beings in His own image and gave dominion to us over the Earth. That's something special. Ego has nothing to do with me thinking that humans are special. Ego is when you think that you are more special than others. I don't believe that. I think you and I are equally special. Imagine what would the world look like if we all treated each other with respect an honor because all of us are equally created in the image of God. Wow, I'm sorry, I'm not living in that world, but in a world where people trample over each other because of their ego. And they didn't get that from the Bible for sure. The Bible accuses ego sooo many times. One example: "All of you, clothe yourselves with humility toward one another, because, God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble” (1 Peter 5:5). Read the New Testament. I highly recommend it :)

    • @MilanErceg33242
      @MilanErceg33242 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@TheQuestWorldDa li u Novom Zavetu piše negde da bi čovek trebalo da nagovara ljude da čitaju Bibliju, da se vrši manipulacija i radi lobotomija(pranje uma)?

    • @MilanErceg33242
      @MilanErceg33242 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@davidkeszeg7120 Poprilično si impulsivna osoba koja je uspešno lobotomirana od strane Adventističke crkve(sekte)! Isperi svoj mozak nekim drugim stvarima u životu, nije sve u Bibliji!

    • @MilanErceg33242
      @MilanErceg33242 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@davidkeszeg7120 A sudeći sa Hrišćanske percepcije Adventisti sedmog dana su sektaši niste hrišćani kao i Jehovini Svedoci zapravo Adventisti i Jehovini Svedoci su jedno te isto samo što je zabavnije zajebavati Adventiste i govoriti im da su Subotari sektaši😂

  • @robertthebig
    @robertthebig 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Can't wait for next week

  • @claudiaquat
    @claudiaquat 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is cringe worth infantile nothing. Stop making videos.

    • @TheQuestWorld
      @TheQuestWorld 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/NUymCm7G150/w-d-xo.html - Here's a reply for some major objections I got for this video.

  • @MrBearAtheist
    @MrBearAtheist 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Over an estimated 400 billion galaxies, supernovas, black holes, quasars....all 'fine tuning'. My goodness (shaking head). The video started okay, and then it all went so very, very bad.

    • @TheQuestWorld
      @TheQuestWorld 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The premise of the fine-tuned universe assertion is that a small change in several of the dimensionless physical constants would make the universe radically different. As Stephen Hawking has noted, "The laws of science, as we know them at present, contain many fundamental numbers, like the size of the electric charge of the electron and the ratio of the masses of the proton and the electron. ... The remarkable fact is that the values of these numbers seem to have been very finely adjusted to make possible the development of life."

    • @davidstevenson5830
      @davidstevenson5830 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@TheQuestWorld Fine-tuning is a load of shit. “This is rather as if you imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in - an interesting hole I find myself in - fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!' This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and smaller, frantically hanging on to the notion that everything's going to be alright, because this world was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise. I think this may be something we need to be on the watch out for.” ― Douglas Adams, The Salmon of Doubt

    • @TheQuestWorld
      @TheQuestWorld 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidstevenson5830 you have the right to have your opinion. The fine-tuning of the Universe is supported by atheist and theist scientists.

    • @davidstevenson5830
      @davidstevenson5830 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheQuestWorld False! Fine-tuning is a load of shit. End of story.

    • @MrBearAtheist
      @MrBearAtheist 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @The Quest Absolutely, and Hawking attributes this 'fine tuning' to theories that do not refer to any supernatural deity, like loop quantum gravity theory and string theory.

  • @moonled
    @moonled 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reason, justice, purpose, design, good and evil are all human concepts. The universe is not bound by them. I wish theists would stop giving their gods credit for our ideas.

    • @TheQuestWorld
      @TheQuestWorld 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/NUymCm7G150/w-d-xo.html - Here's a reply for some major objections I got for this video.

  • @alananimus9145
    @alananimus9145 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    A logical and reasonable world view does not believe in talking snakes and talk donkey's. As an agnostic (global) and a yahweh atheist let me just say your full of it. Most atheists i know and the majority of agnostics i know are not ontological naturalists which is the position you are proscribing to us. What i and most others claim is that to date the only thing we can have knowledge of is the natural cosmos. Is there a creator of the universe? I don't know and neither does anyone else. For all we know we could be the version of sims universe. But, and here is the catch i have no good reason to believe that. I have every good reason to believe the god of the bible does not exist and that it is as fabricated as every other religion. It's historically, scientifically and ethically as accurate as any other "holy" book.

    • @TheQuestWorld
      @TheQuestWorld 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/NUymCm7G150/w-d-xo.html - Here's a reply for some major objections I got for this video.

  • @ssdsd5394
    @ssdsd5394 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Next why don't you tell a bunch of women what it means to be a woman. Seeing how your a male theist that knows so damn much about what it is to be *what you clearly are not* 😂😂 The presupposition argument is self defeating so please continue to use it. 👍

    • @TheQuestWorld
      @TheQuestWorld 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/NUymCm7G150/w-d-xo.html - Here's a reply for some major objections I got for this video.

  • @smequals
    @smequals 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep questing, because you just haven't seemed to have found the answers yet.

  • @devb9912
    @devb9912 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, you have a buttload of people who label themselves "atheist" telling you that your view of them is flawed... are you going to readjust your thinking, or insist the very people who ARE atheists don't actually know what their position is?

    • @TheQuestWorld
      @TheQuestWorld 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/NUymCm7G150/w-d-xo.html - Here's a reply for some major objections I got for this video.

  • @psilynt1
    @psilynt1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I'm an atheist and I can't help but notice that you claim at the very beginning of this video to be able to explain the ultimate reality. Please tell me how this is done and how you distinguish it from false realities. In detail please, not a single sentence or religious expression.

    • @psilynt1
      @psilynt1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Okay finished watched your ramble. I think you're trying to say that your evidence is the Bible. The bible is book, which is material, so you have to start with the presupposition that the material world exists. People don't just poof into existence as Christians. Please look at the rest of the world for evidence of this. If you start with more suppositions than this, please see Occam's razor. Your additional presuppositions aren't needed. Thanks.

    • @TheQuestWorld
      @TheQuestWorld 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/NUymCm7G150/w-d-xo.html - Here's a reply for some major objections I got for this video.

  • @humbleevidenceaccepter7712
    @humbleevidenceaccepter7712 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You quote the Bible. The Bible also promotes or condones slavery, misogyny and violence. It is also rife with contradictions and its supernatural claims are unsupported or even debunked. Why on Earth would you consider that a moral or accurate source on _anything?_

    • @TheQuestWorld
      @TheQuestWorld 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/NUymCm7G150/w-d-xo.html - Here's a reply for some major objections I got for this video.

  • @MaccaLives
    @MaccaLives 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    No. You still don’t get it. Atheism is the absence of a belief in a god. Any god. That’s it. Views on how the world began don’t even come into play. Atheism = “I don’t believe in a deity”. That is literally it.

    • @TheQuestWorld
      @TheQuestWorld 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/NUymCm7G150/w-d-xo.html - Here's a reply for some major objections I got for this video.

  • @frosted1030
    @frosted1030 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You don't seem to define reality as we do. Your view seems to be about accepting some nonsense fantasy play, because the math is too hard. You insist that we *have to find an alternative way to explain.* Let's show you why that's wrong. Let's say you have a stomach ache. Now, someone tells you that your stomach ache is because an invisible gnome is living in your sock drawer and casting spells. Do you need to have an alternative way to explain your stomach ache, or is life enough experience to dismiss the idea? Atheism doesn't pretend to have a better explanation when we simply reject your silly point of view as unevidenced nonsense. We don't need to accept science to reject your superstition, however having a better understanding of science does place your deity in the "dismissed, not cogent" pile along with leprechauns, pixies, and other mythological nonsense. Your BS about fine tuning demonstrates a lack of understanding of simple things, such as the fact that the universe as a whole, is more than 99.99999% instantly deadly to human life. If that's "finely tuned" you seem to have a strange way of defining the concept. If you tuned a guitar as poorly, it wouldn't be considered "fine". Also, something to think about in your strawman, we are not the ones insisting upon some pure randomness being the reason for life. That's only the apologists. You contrast what someone who knows science says, with something written at a time before the scientific method was discovered.. this does show how far we have come, and an unhealthy attachment by theists to a fuzzy happy fable when reality is just not so.

    • @TheQuestWorld
      @TheQuestWorld 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/NUymCm7G150/w-d-xo.html - Here's a reply for some major objections I got for this video.

  • @matsjonsson1704
    @matsjonsson1704 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the biggest problem in your thinking ( The quest) is that you have your foundation in your religion, this is your top. Atheism for most people is not even in the top 500 reasons for the foundation of their worldviews. If we go through the taxonomic tree, until we get to homo sapiens sapines. Even this simple fact informs my worldview, areas like empathy, morals, the fact that I don`t have wings etc, etc, it both limits and gives possibility's. This is just the basics. Im human Im a father Im a man Im a citizen Im a voter Im a sceptic Im a educated Im a secularist Im a humanist Im a plummer Im a trainer etc etc etc < 450 more traits, that informs my worldview. Then you come around and tell me to look in to your unsupported claim, I do, and I call BS. You then label my conclusion ( atheist) And put that label at the top of my worldview, despite my rejections, you also ad traits to this label, like science, naturalism, materialism. Not even listening to the rejections. Nothing in my life is based on the label atheism, its my humanism that informs me to oppose theists ( all of them, sad to say, if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem, even tho you seem like a nice dude ) because they kill and destroy people, its my education that allows me to evaluate scientific claims. and my skepticism that grades my beliefs in probability's and not dogma etc. You need to stop putting atheism as the top, because you have theism at the top, just because atheism is the label on conclusion of the unsupported claim of a deity existing, the claim and the conclusion is not at par, even tho they relate in topic Analogy, If my friend tells me that his car flies, and I say, I don`t believe you. And he comes back with - do you have a better car, if not, then you can`t believe my doesn't fly, you need a better car AND you need to explain where life originated from. If you can`t your religious worldview of my car not flying, is wrong. Btw can you prove that you not believing my car can fly, is true.

  • @fredriksundberg4624
    @fredriksundberg4624 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So it's all back to : Callsign Deadmeats book, isn't? So it's only because your idol is FT = Frank Turek, right?

    • @TheQuestWorld
      @TheQuestWorld 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/NUymCm7G150/w-d-xo.html - Here's a reply for some major objections I got for this video.

  • @allusrunning6043
    @allusrunning6043 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is trite and inaccurate. Nil Poi.

    • @TheQuestWorld
      @TheQuestWorld 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/NUymCm7G150/w-d-xo.html - Here's a reply for some major objections I got for this video.

  • @farvision
    @farvision 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    600 stupid science students? Wow, I'm impressed.

    • @TheQuestWorld
      @TheQuestWorld 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      In your other comment, you claimed to be a scientist. As far as I know, scientists make claims after seeing the evidence. Do you have any evidence that they were really stupid? Or is it your assumption? Have you read the methodology of the calculation? If you haven't, here it is: bit.ly/2D4Jucl

  • @farvision
    @farvision 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    All the prophecies are in the bible, right? The bible was written and rewritten by many people, so many that we don't have the originals anymore and there are many differing variations. So it would be easy to make the stories fit the prophecies - it makes a better story when they do! So any calculation based on this mythology is meaningless. What you need and do not have is a bunch of independent sources for the life of Jesus. But there are none. It isn't even clear that there was a person Jesus since the things claimed for him match the claims for many other gods - like walking on water and being from a virgin birth. You can make up anything in a mythology. This reminds me of the illegitimate computations of "intelligent design proponents" who would do a computation of how likely a DNA or protein string is. They always neglect the mechanism we know happens, which is small SUCCESSIVE changes. From many small changes directed by natural selection (a concept they have never been able to wrap their brains around though they have been told it hundreds of times and it is not complicated - which means they are dishonest or really really stupid) it is NOT LEGAL mathematically to multiply to get the probability. Indeed, the probability that creatures will evolve is near 1, not the tiny number they incorrectly compute. So stop pretending you know what you are doing with your math.

    • @ataliagranger3360
      @ataliagranger3360 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Although we may not have the originals, we have Old Testament manuscripts from the Dead Sea scrolls, some of which date significantly before the time of Christ. The Isaiah scroll specifically (which contains many prophecies about Jesus) was dated around 200 BC, approximately 200 years before the time of Jesus. Also, you need only to look at the magnitude of ancient manuscripts (and their reliability/how they compare to each other) to understand that the chances of the Bible being meaningfully changed over time are near zero. Especially when compared to other ancient documents. Also, it’s entirely dishonest to claim that there are no outside and non-Christian sources confirming the life of Jesus as well as the other events in the Bible. There are plenty - anyone who actually looks into the evidence, whether Christian or atheist or otherwise, understands that Jesus was a historical figure. Here’s a little taste of that: There are more than 30 sources outside of the Bible, written within 150 years of Jesus’ life that attest to more than 100 facts regarding Jesus’ life, teachings, crucifixion, and resurrection. (See: The Historical Jesus: Ancient Evidence for the Life of Christ by Gary R. Habermas). Some of these other sources include: A. Cornelius Tacitus (ca. A.D. 55 -120) a Roman Historian B. Gaius Suetonius (the chief secretary of Emperor Hadrian (A.D. 117 -138), etc. alwaysbeready.com/can-we-trust-the-bible/#extrabiblical-writings

    • @angelaaldas5591
      @angelaaldas5591 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @farvision your writing shows “shortsigh”. The more direct or indirect proofs of the Bible discovered, the tinier the Bible criticism shrank.

    • @johan2380
      @johan2380 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ataliagranger3360 Literally your A and B are the only 2 books that even reference his name. IF there were all these books out there that corroborated his story and authenticity, Christian debaters would be using them! They aren't which means they are solid proof

    • @kevinparrish5379
      @kevinparrish5379 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is so much misinformation in your response, it's hard to know where to begin. I truly pray you don't actually believe the things you wrote and are simply attempting to get a response. First, the historicity of the Bible, to any sensible person, is no longer in question. There are more early supporting texts to support the accuracy of the Bible than any work in history (literally thousands). And all of the early supporting documents clearly disprove the lie that the Bible has been "changed" and "edited". Couple that with the fact that EVERY known archaeological discovery that has Biblically-related content has proven exactly what the Bible says, and there really remains little room for honest doubt. To your point about intelligent design and evolution. The ONLY thing the theory of evolution supports IS the small, successive changes. It COMPLETELY fails to define either the origin of life OR type/species changes in organisms (you know, the LARGE/important stuff). The complete failure of ANY advancement in the past 70 years since the HIGHLY flawed Miller/Urey experiment, despite MILLIONS of dollars invested, lends further credence to this clear weakness in the theory. Allow me to point you in the direction of some good information - "Darwin's Doubt" by Stephen C. Meyer, "Is Atheism Dead?" by Eric Metaxas, "Fabricating Jesus" by Craig A. Evans, and "The Case for the Real Jesus" by Lee Strobel are all full of information with related citations that may prove helpful for you. I pray you entertain this information with an open heart AND mind. Godspeed

    • @igormehinagic3708
      @igormehinagic3708 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ataliagranger3360 Why are you going so deep in the Bible instead of understanding it for yourself?

  • @donmak0427
    @donmak0427 5 ปีที่แล้ว

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