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The Game Awards 2024 - Elk and Kek React
The Game Awards 2024 - Elk and Kek React
Hi everyone! It's Elk and Kek here, reacting to the 2024 Game Awards. We unfortunately had to cut out a few segments, namely the ones with the long musical pieces.
We also had to lower the volume of the video itself.
If you want to watch the Game Awards 2024 in full, check it out here: th-cam.com/users/liveLfnUQ-qKsdQ?si=K9UN4CLI07ws2q8A
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  • @sylvesterolveda66
    @sylvesterolveda66 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dragon quest just has this beautiful comfort and has the ability to really put yourself as the hero. I always see myself in that world and it's so beautiful.

  • @startoys2113
    @startoys2113 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dragon Quest all the way! After Final Fantasy 7 I never liked any new Final Fantasy games. Still I respect Final Fantasy but never liked the direction it took after 7. Dragon Quest on the other hand is always great in my opinion.

  • @wuffymcwuff
    @wuffymcwuff 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Final fantasy at its peak is better than dragon quest, but dragon quest is much more consistent. There aren't really any "bad" mainline dragon quest games, they all hit around the same level of quality and deliver the experience that you expect from the series.

  • @Kameno-o
    @Kameno-o 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Famous people who've played Final Fantasy: Ariana Grande, Playboi Carti, and Doja Cat Famous people who've played Dragon Quest: Elon Musk and Alex Jones I think Final Fantasy wins by simply not having bad people associated with its franchise simple and clean

    • @funkyxyzykiwi
      @funkyxyzykiwi 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      what did I just read... who plays a game has nothing to do with the game's quality. Without Dragon Quest there'd be no Final Fantasy, no Resident Evil, no Phantasy Star, no Yakuza...

  • @BillyAnselmo
    @BillyAnselmo 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Haha 🤣🤣🤣 so is funny because both games came from the same company.

    • @elk_atreides
      @elk_atreides 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They're under the same company today but that wasn't always the case. From the 1980s to 2000, Enix owned Dragon Quest and Squaresoft had Final Fantasy. Enix then bought Squaresoft and they merged into Square-Enix right after Final Fantasy X came out.

    • @BillyAnselmo
      @BillyAnselmo 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @elk_atreides my point is they are equal, is funny 🤣🤣🤣🤣 to me that you will make someone fight over which is better, I don't care really I care is the chaos of the fans fighting for the franchise they want to win.

  • @GarredHATES
    @GarredHATES 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was an FF fanboy growing up and couldn’t get why DQ was so popular “it’s just FF with worse stories” I thought. Then I played DQ8 and loved it so much then I understood. DQ is just so cozy, nostalgic and charming. I always feel relaxed when I play through a DQ game. I wanna play all of them.

  • @makokx7063
    @makokx7063 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For me FF has always been like a good novel, DQ was like a fun cartoon, I really love both of them. That being said after playing nearly all of them games all these years and being in my later 30s I have to say I prefer DQ. I didn't even play the new FF7 but I'm counting down the days for DQ3 remake.

  • @girlingamerland
    @girlingamerland 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video! Have a great weekend!

  • @evening_liam
    @evening_liam 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My picks would be Final Fantasy 6, Xenoblade Chronicles DE, TMNT Shredder's Revenge, Minecraft, Atari Flashback, and Ocarina of Time. Let me add Symphony of the Night too.

  • @blackwings_blackwinds
    @blackwings_blackwinds 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Octopath Traveler 2, Minecraft, Deep Rock Galactic, Bioshock, Red Dead Redemption 2, and Ys 8

    • @roxaskinghearts
      @roxaskinghearts 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      if your this stuck on gaming you probably cant repair a generator in 30 years when you need it the most

  • @iznaya_angel
    @iznaya_angel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Games I'd bring: - Rune Factory 5 - The Witcher 3 - Elden Ring - Monster Hunter Rise - Fortnite - Elite Beat Agents - Persona 5 Royal

    • @RhianBallesteros
      @RhianBallesteros 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If I picked Witcher 3, I'd be entertained for months with just Gwent

  • @fwright76
    @fwright76 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the original Dragon Warrior on the NES. I’ve played through it multiple times. I just started playing it again a week ago and am loving it (again)

  • @blackwealthmatters
    @blackwealthmatters 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Playing The iOS Version Now

  • @Kazihirom
    @Kazihirom 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Every dq was great, most ff games are awful Last playable non mmo ff was 12

  • @RPGStory
    @RPGStory 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've heard this is up there with the best DQ games. I've had the DS trilogy for a while now but only just finishing IV.

    • @elk_atreides
      @elk_atreides 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's great that you played DQ IV first. You'll see a lot of callbacks and connections to it when you play DQ V. I hope you enjoy it when you get around to it!

  • @Bevtone
    @Bevtone 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    DQ is thematically and mechanically consistent but never as emotive or gritty, its super whimsical and fun though, FF take a risk in every title and the fact they aren't afraid to take risks is where I give them plaudits even if it results in somthing I dont like! It's surprising that DQ for so long has catered to its Japanese audience when it has so many western themes and as a franchise they shot themselves in the foot and even when they did release them to the west they where limited to certain consoles and then 10 is still a no show! I don't think either product is superior just different, I think FF has just held esteem over DQ because its simply been more available and FF7 was such a massive hit DQ could never compete! I think as it stands now though what DQ has a slight upper hand in that its not trying to reinvent the wheel and that's why DQ11 landed so well with a traditional audience, FF is chasing trends and lost sight of why people loved the games in the first place, I could almost garrentee the next DQ will be great but with the next FF who knows because they have drifted so far from what they where its barley a JRPG any more.

  • @Dee-manJohnsonIII
    @Dee-manJohnsonIII 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m going to play this one soon

  • @Dee-manJohnsonIII
    @Dee-manJohnsonIII 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love it! Just subbed! I finally was able to get into DQX and did a video on that.

    • @elk_atreides
      @elk_atreides 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! I only got to try DQX for a bit. I hope I can get back to it, it definitely seems like one of the best MMORPGs out there.

    • @Dee-manJohnsonIII
      @Dee-manJohnsonIII 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@elk_atreides it’s so damn fun! I can’t stop playing

  • @anothermetalslime
    @anothermetalslime 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes! I rank this among my favorites too. I'm not sure if I like it more than Dragon Quest IV but they are among my highest choices.

  • @oliviaspiritfire
    @oliviaspiritfire 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Been waiting for this! Good job on the review, it's an excellent video! I hope it helps convince others to try out the game too!

  • @MayaLuanne
    @MayaLuanne 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First! 😂 Okay but seriously, many good points here. I watched your streams and decided to buy the game on my phone. It was worth it!

  • @Morgil27
    @Morgil27 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the whole series readily available. I have 1-4 on NES, 1-3 on GB, 1-3 on my phone, 1-3 on Switch, 4-6 on DS, 7 on both PS1 and 3DS, 8 on PS2 and 3DS, 9 on DS, and 11 on Switch. I'm perfectly satisfied. Also, the only one that was kind of expensive was 6 on DS, which I paid around $90 for. The rest were relatively cheap on Amazon and eBay.

  • @tokyotitanghoul
    @tokyotitanghoul 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude nice work on the new assets and music

  • @JorenGalon
    @JorenGalon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pinoy to

    • @elk_atreides
      @elk_atreides 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JorenGalon yup.

    • @PhoenixMetal91
      @PhoenixMetal91 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Of all the things in the video, that's what you got? Tsk

    • @JorenGalon
      @JorenGalon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PhoenixMetal91 KEKW who hurt u

  • @rycalic
    @rycalic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love these kinds of conversations and analysis into these two franchises so great work Elk. I don't know how old you are but you seem young and that the only problem with this analysis is that it lacks the historical context for the moves of each franchise and how they were seen through the years. Dragon quest was popular in Japan but in comparison to western audiences it always felt steps behind Final fantasy on the narrative front not to mention the other things FF was doing. It was recognize that Square Soft was S tier and Enix was maybe B as Square was also producing many other amazing games through the 90s-yearly 00s. For me as an old school final fantasy fan, Square and Square Enix no longer produces games I wish to play and the last game that was a Final Fantasy game for me was FF 10-2. This is by in large the movement of genre which you nailed. 11 was a MMO, 12 was a single player MMO, 13 was a train wreck hallway sim, 14 a MMO which bombed and was reborn but still a MMO, 15 was unfinished and more Kingdom hearts than FF, and 16 is more devil may cry medieval dark fantasy than FF. This has nothing to do with the quality of the games themselves but they are not FF RPGs in the classical since. They go from more passive thought based gaming to action based gaming and just don't feel like FF games from their writing to comic overtones and other aspects. The best example is looking at FF7 and FF7 remake, these are not the same game nor same genre nor even feel like the same soul. They're different. Its like playing chess vs soccer. I like soccer but I prefer to play chess. This is why DQ11 did so well because it was the closest true FF game we had since Octopath and Persona 5. They are chess games, not soccer games and remember chess can have a timer so the ATB doesn't change it from being turn based. We also can't forget that DQ games were relegated to aging or lesser consoles and targeting children vs being for anyone and many of the DQ games are pretty grindy and terrible to get through in comparison to FF at least for the feelings of the time. I think its going to be an interesting next few decades of us getting polished modern versions of these old games with the same soul like DQ 3's remake and Persona 3 reload have done but just don't expect it from the FF franchise. They're lost and something completely different now.

    • @elk_atreides
      @elk_atreides 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rycalic thanks for the compliment! I wish I was young. My first exposure was to Dragon Quest 1 on the NES...... when it came out in 1986.

  • @Morgil27
    @Morgil27 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the earlier Final Fantasy games (1-6, and also 9), but at the end of the day, I am 100% team Dragon Quest. There is not a single DQ game I didn't like (10 doesn't count, cuz I can't play it at all).

  • @RPGStory
    @RPGStory 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My vote goes for FF due to how influencial it was on me and always offered something different. But DQ is a series I'm growing to appreciate as I work my way through those games they are so relaxing and charming.

    • @elk_atreides
      @elk_atreides 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, sometimes it boils down to which one you came across first. I'm Asian so we were pretty much exposed to DQ right from the get-go.

  • @iznaya_angel
    @iznaya_angel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Losing a save file is always painful. Good thing you pushed through! Interesting top ten!

  • @cottonpillowscandy
    @cottonpillowscandy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The grind is comforting. The problem with modern games that have grinding is that it's sometimes intentional to make you spend on micro transactions and gacha. Dragon Quest makes it so fun and never painful.

  • @baryalijaz4233
    @baryalijaz4233 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dragon Quest 1 was the first jrpg I beat a year back and I’ve played many more jrpgs and I hated grinding in all of them, but for Dragon Quest 1 I loved it. I was literally addicted for a weekend. I don’t know why the grinding was so much fun and more enjoyable compared to other games. I really loved the simplicity of the game. Only having one party member made you focus on yourself and kept the game less complicated. Overall a really great game and a refreshing experience compared to the convoluted gameplay mechanics in newer jrpgs. It really felt like you were on a fantasy world adventure all by yourself.

  • @The_Bi-polar_Express
    @The_Bi-polar_Express 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    DQ is my highest time played on Switch, lol

  • @holschermarc
    @holschermarc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think every grind can be fun aslong as it isnt reliant on RNG or insanly long. Every level up/gear up is in graspable reach and u always gain EXP and Gold meaning u progress with every fight. Other games could easily do that too but its a lost art

    • @elk_atreides
      @elk_atreides 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@holschermarc it really is a lost art

  • @RiversCoast081
    @RiversCoast081 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seeing as how your Dragon Quest 5 playthrough was grind-free, I am excited to start playing these. Now I'm excited even more seeing as the grind in the first game has a fun and purposeful loop to it.

  • @RhianBallesteros
    @RhianBallesteros 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just started playing this on the Switch and I agree! The grind feels fun and natural, never getting in the way.

  • @lackingsuperstitions
    @lackingsuperstitions 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This one is now my favorite Elk stream

  • @jinyboi
    @jinyboi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love both but if I had to pick I'd side with FF. With every new title, I can never predict what kind of game it'll be and that's exciting. With every new dq game, I have a good idea of what I'm in for

    • @elk_atreides
      @elk_atreides 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can agree! I prefer Dragon Quest exactly because I know what I'm in for (it's comfort food to me) but it's easy to see your preference too! It's always fun to jump into a brand new, exciting experience.

  • @jonathan10melo
    @jonathan10melo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's hard for me to say. I have played only 3 games from each franchise. I would say I like FF6 more than any DQ, but as a franchise I prefere DQ because it's so much more consistent. Every DQ game is good. I can't say the same for FF.

    • @elk_atreides
      @elk_atreides 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Such is the price of trying an entirely new approach with each game. Some FF games are a massive hit, some are great but not amazing. DQ on the other hand maintains a high standard while sticking to tradition. And yeah, I love FF6!

  • @TheBrazilRules
    @TheBrazilRules 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is this fake believe that Dragon Quest is iterative and Final Fantasy is evolutionary. The fact is that Dragon Quest is evolutionary and Final Fantasy is revolutionary. Dragon Quest always add at least one major feature EVERY GAME and Final Fantasy just throws away what works trying to remain completely fresh. And I refuse this apologist BS that you can't define what Final Fantasy is. Final Fantasy, regardless of your flawed definition of the ATB system, was turn based from I through X and even XII still has the essence of the ATB system on it, with you having to wait for the bar to fill for your character to start the next command you gave and another bar depending on the action to account for how long that action takes

  • @TheBrazilRules
    @TheBrazilRules 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why do people try to argue that ATB is not turn based? While the bar is filling, you are waiting for your turn, and when it fills up, you take your turn, and enemies also have their own hidden ATB bars, so they also have to wait for their turn. The only unique part of it is that it has flowing turns, so if you take too long to decide, enemies can skip your turn, while you cannot skip their turn because they make their decisions immediately.

    • @chrlpolk
      @chrlpolk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right, the only difference is you’re waiting for the turn.

    • @nickblomgren
      @nickblomgren 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you were to say that ATB wasn't turn-based during the release of any Final Fantasy game in the 90's: The person you would be talking too would have looked at you like you lost your mind. Also the only reason this has come-up recently is that people want to pretend FFXVI isn't an action game. We can't possibly acknowledge that, and acknowledge it's good enough to be a mainline numbered game in the series, or talk about where the series moves on from here. Instead we do this.

    • @nesoukkefka1741
      @nesoukkefka1741 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If ennemy can skip your turn then it's not fully turn base anymore, you already add a real time element by removing that aspect, in a traditionnal turn-base like DQ, SMT, Persona or FFX the point is you either choose your action before the round play and watch how it plays (order being decided by the speed stat) or each combattant get their individual turn, while on a turn the principle of a turn base if you can take all your time to assess the situation to make your move, if you remove that and allow ennemy to play during your move selection that's already not fully turn base anymore you're adding a real-time element into it, the goal of ATB system was always to make the game more dynamic than a basic turn-base, and, base on what Hiroyuki Ito (creator of the ATB system) said in the long term transitionning to full real-time (not necessarily action game tough), which they started doing with FFX-2, XII and XIII which are still menu and stat base combat system dictate by the ATB with allowing every participant to act whenever they can regardless of if someone is already acting, and I honnestly would have prefer they keep going in that direction with the ATB system rather than just dumping it all out for going full Action game.

    • @karebushmarebu233
      @karebushmarebu233 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nesoukkefka1741it’s still turn based. You take turns but each turn has a time limit, that’s literally the only difference. It’s just turn based but you don’t have infinite time for decisions.

    • @nesoukkefka1741
      @nesoukkefka1741 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@karebushmarebu233 And that's a key difference that makes it not fully turn base anymore, a classic turn base game by definition give you all the time for your decisions when it's your turn that's the all point, by removing that you already deviating from a pure turn base gameplay by adding a real time element due to the ennemy being able to act during your decision if you're to slow, granted they only got rid of the "one action at a time limit" which was the only thing that still makes it look like a turn base by FFX-2.

  • @FabuBrik
    @FabuBrik 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would even settle for 7&8 ports

  • @kleev6576
    @kleev6576 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    HD 2D 4-9 Yes please

    • @elk_atreides
      @elk_atreides 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That would be amazing. Even if it's just the Zenithian Trilogy, that would be so good.

  • @leslumens
    @leslumens 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Already set to buy 1-3 again for the... Err... How many times now? I can't even remember how many times I've purchased those three. NES, SNES (import) GBC, Switch. Is that all of them? Can't remember. When a game does come out, buy it. It's the only chance we have of demonstrating there's a market and getting regular releases. I've bought 11 3 frikkin' times. Original on PC, on Switch, and then again on PC for the Definitive there. I've been in the fight since the 90s when we didn't get 5.

    • @veghesther3204
      @veghesther3204 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      DQ 3 has at least 4 versions so yes NES + the SNES remake Japan only GBC and the Switch/IOS version this remake will be the 5th version of it.

  • @TheBrazilRules
    @TheBrazilRules 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think they really want to do that now. And that is why they are doing 1-3 HD-2D, because they already released those on Switch. Why would they do it again, if not to begin a trend?

    • @nightwish1453
      @nightwish1453 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      honestly the ds/mobile versions of zenithia are still pretty solid for what they are so a simple port would be satisfactory

    • @TheBrazilRules
      @TheBrazilRules 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @nightwish1453 I agree, but those have been around for so long that I think it is time to make new versions. Just because Square Enix seems to hate the original Final Fantasy VII does not means that Yuji Horii has to follow suit. And as painful as it may be, maybe it would be better if the series died with Horii himself...

    • @nightwish1453
      @nightwish1453 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheBrazilRules well remake ff7 exceeds far beyond that of the Dq remakes including these new ones to the point it feels like a reimagined/sequel to the original, I won’t say they hate ff7 in fact square seem rather competent in archiving ff7-ff12 but the remake feels like an enormous cash cow and that’s it. The ds remakes of dq just aged like fine wine far better then the likes of some other ff remakes. Wouldn’t be bad to remake them but if enix wants to not go full in and instead focus on new stuff this is a fine alternative that I don’t think many complain about it’s not even outdated they still play well years later and probably the least needed to be altered when ported to something else

    • @TheBrazilRules
      @TheBrazilRules 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @nightwish1453 That Is what I meant by hating it. They make a point of changing it. They could give us a faithful FF7 with the same exploration of FF7R, but they decided to change EVERYTHING from the combat to the story. How dumb it is that the turn based game had instantaneous spell casting, and the real time one puts a cast time just so enemies interrupt you? I felt really offended playing the original yesterday and realizing MP is only spent AFTER the spell is cast, while in Remake, it is spent first just so you can waste your MP.

  • @RiversCoast081
    @RiversCoast081 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree 100% I only have a PS4 and it only has DQ 11 until the remakes come out in November. I want to play 8 because everyone says it's great.

    • @veghesther3204
      @veghesther3204 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Correct but if you don't MIND import games IE NOT in English the Switch collection of DQ1 to 3 ARE playable on the PS4 but ONLY via a JAPANESE ONLY PSN account.

    • @MadDogRyan
      @MadDogRyan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The original trilogy remakes aren't coming to ps4 but they will be on switch the sales for ps4 versions of games have fallen so sadly it won't be on there

  • @Derplander90
    @Derplander90 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For me DQ11 was beyond brilliant. I replayed it many times and always enjoy it. But in terms of story FFX is far superior with an emotional weight.

  • @Misa_Susaki
    @Misa_Susaki 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One huge advantage DQ has is that it has been led by a single guy for the past 38 years. Yuji Horii has always been in charge, so the games feel consistent.

    • @Davethawave1999
      @Davethawave1999 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because of that, DQ games feels too samey. But that's ok, DQ is what I go to when I want comfort. Final Fantasy when I want a new experience

    • @Misa_Susaki
      @Misa_Susaki 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Davethawave1999 I hear this repeated again and again, but only by players in the West. You might be very surprised to hear that this is not at all how players in Japan view DQ vs FF. I'm more in their side; I don't think DQ games are same-y at all.

    • @elk_atreides
      @elk_atreides 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Misa_Susaki I agree! They're consistent and traditional but they all feel very different. The experience you get from raising a family to save the world in DQ V is vastly different from the experience of being a hero on the run in DQ XI S, for example.

    • @mr.j3rs3y
      @mr.j3rs3y 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I definitely feel like the Final Fantasy has been without focus for a while due to the absence of Sakaguchi or a consistent creative director.

  • @mowzzzz
    @mowzzzz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like your argument towards ppl who want Turned Based Final Fantasy back is a bit contrived and playing with semantics a bit. Im pretty most understand that 4-9 aren’t traditional Turned Based games. But im pretty sure when somebody says “i want Turned Based FF back” the more than likely mean the ATB system(4-9). I know some ppl wanted FF16, but i(and others), main issue was that it felt like it strayed too far away from being an RPG imo. No party control. Equipment swapping was very linear and boring. Enemies didn’t seem to have elemental weaknesses. Etc. Etc.

    • @lutherh6090
      @lutherh6090 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The ATB system is still turn-based. Especially if you keep it on “wait” mode.

  • @RCScorchCore
    @RCScorchCore 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just picked up DQ11 to play for the first time before the original trilogy remakes.