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[SSBU] The Move That Makes Cloud Good
Sometimes, there's more to a move than what it seems.
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list to best moves to break blocks (feel free to comment any suggestions! I don't know every character perfectly lol): docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/132fctYXspQyaIiTWj8oXRKHVXPEbGCKtMai1IHxZ1K8/edit?usp=drivesdk

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  • @mamba7160
    @mamba7160 วันที่ผ่านมา

    7:40 straight up a Street Fighter safe jump

  • @Andre40492
    @Andre40492 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Acola's binding vow beat Spargo, but had to give up the #1 rank to do so

  • @mochaman29
    @mochaman29 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Shieldgrabbing cloud bair is like reaching for a cops gun" 😭😭

  • @alexanderhirth1530
    @alexanderhirth1530 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One if my lersonal favorite mindgames is approaching with my back turned to make them think I'll bair their shield, but instead I empty land cross-slash. Since they only expect the single hit, they usually drop shield and I usually get more off of cross-slash than grab.

  • @purplecrowbar1332
    @purplecrowbar1332 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amazing quality video

  • @zackivanov9461
    @zackivanov9461 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One of the few most informative competitive smash videos I’ve ever seen mate and I’ve been playing since Brawl. Thank you!

    • @SmaxSSB
      @SmaxSSB 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad you enjoyed!

  • @alanizq1747
    @alanizq1747 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    cool video

  • @rudiausbuddeln7573
    @rudiausbuddeln7573 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Back air 16 min life time saved

  • @GrahamDrake-j1v
    @GrahamDrake-j1v 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    my mains now are cloud and mii brawler. I really enjoy the advantage state of both characters

  • @GrahamDrake-j1v
    @GrahamDrake-j1v 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    spargo is my goat

  • @duhuhu6537
    @duhuhu6537 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    12:12 so, a bair is not the only good option, it also opens a mind-game to play with tomahawk too, uh?

  • @davidhansbury70
    @davidhansbury70 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love typing comments

  • @jeom3808
    @jeom3808 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes, i am a ff7 og fan, yes, hearing ff8's soundtrack in the intro to cloud's moveset was jarring and a tiny bit upsetting.

    • @jeom3808
      @jeom3808 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      (like painting Zack's hair yellow or Cloud's hair black.)

    • @TheXell
      @TheXell 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wel, TMWTMG is abanger so it's forgivable.

    • @jeom3808
      @jeom3808 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheXell true true.

  • @Fredysaurus
    @Fredysaurus 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good video, earned a subscriber. Clean explanations, you've taught me some new things on a topic I thought i was already comfortable with. And i like how everythtwas outlined and structured. One thing I'd say as criticism is maybe lower the voice effects- disclaimer: its partially because I find pythras voice jarring, but the louder voices at the end were a little detracting from the gameplay I was watching. I think you were trying to highlight foresight usage, but a tally or count would have been preferable imo, and given real quantification. But on the other hand, it did express the point. Maybe I just find mythras voice annoying lol. My only other critique is that now Im gonna have to watch all your other videos! I was planning on going to sleep 😂

  • @ReverbYuh
    @ReverbYuh 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great vid bro keep it up

  • @mdmehranrahman3058
    @mdmehranrahman3058 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This video is honestly amazing despite how small your channel is. Really great and simple explanation with amazing graphics and visuals. I'm honestly obsessed with Cloud and Spargo and can't wait to see how Spargo will prepare to counteract Acola's Aegis seeing Acolas adaptment.

  •  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    great vid

  • @Moongads
    @Moongads 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm not the biggest spargo fan and I was literally just about to click off this video but then you started playing the compilation with all caps as background music and I INSTANTLY subscribed

  • @ihopeyouandicanbefriends
    @ihopeyouandicanbefriends 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the bootless falco is so cursed

  • @feyss-9040
    @feyss-9040 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amazing video!

  • @5hyguy42
    @5hyguy42 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    あcola the Goat lmao

  • @5hyguy42
    @5hyguy42 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Legit didn’t know much about the difference of sh fh thank you🫡

  • @Creepo_J
    @Creepo_J 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The visuals and in depth breakdown is really helpful and entertaining Might share this

  • @Creepo_J
    @Creepo_J 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like whiff punishing cloud bair im like a little mouse taking cheese from a mouse trap (I dont play the rats)

  • @gtgpotato8059
    @gtgpotato8059 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    okay why do you only have 500 subscribers?? you always make banger videos

  • @M00nGAZERR
    @M00nGAZERR 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My goat

  • @janswhatsupdoc
    @janswhatsupdoc 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Arcane is actually a real word 🤯

  • @VD_RXTR0
    @VD_RXTR0 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    6:03 someone please clip this

    • @future34andpast
      @future34andpast 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I got you: th-cam.com/users/clipUgkxTjzYa19ryGowCoqE4cXh-GtFshg4WeBd?si=JeUbtdnzALGhugXc

    • @VD_RXTR0
      @VD_RXTR0 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @future34andpast thx bro

  • @TheChickenman239
    @TheChickenman239 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video overall. Only thing I would add (and you did mention it in more nuanced scenarios which is awesome) is how much danger the opponent is in if bair DOES land. Since bair is basically an incontestable no fly zone brick of a hit box, yes people generally don’t wanna sit in shield and just stay at cloud’s mercy, so at some point they HAVE to fight back and if you land bair it sets up for so many dangerous situations for the opponent. True combos at low %, tech chases (which can straight up kill if you have limit) at mid %, but most importantly I think is that you have to land now. If you get hit with a bair at mid-high% if it doesn’t outright kill you now you either have to deal with a tech, try to go above cloud which he can call out as spargo did in some of the clips you showed which is insta ggs on a lot of the cast or put yourself in position to get up air juggled which is also not fun (another no fly zone ahh hit box), try to land in front of him (death sentence), or just go to ledge in which case he’s free to push advantage and worst case get a free ledge trap which is an amazing situation for cloud. Basically what I’m getting at is you land bair on an opponent and you pretty much always have an rps scenario that favors cloud to the point of if he’s right you eat tons of damage or just lose the stock and if he’s wrong then 🤷🏾‍♂️ as long as you don’t get reversaled just do it again or go back to neutral lol. Good stuff tho bro 👍🏽

  • @trevororchard3152
    @trevororchard3152 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    why, after the countless hours i have put into this game, did i never know that shorthop aerials deal less damage???? why did nobody tell me

  • @projectz358
    @projectz358 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Back air and forward air. Gotten so used to this jank I actually parry it on reaction.

    • @nemotune
      @nemotune 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      👍

  • @ParadiseCityIquique
    @ParadiseCityIquique 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Eso se llama merecer perder

  • @zer0mar322
    @zer0mar322 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice breakdown! But didja have to show us barefoot Falco?? Slight correction at 6:45 If Cloud's ftilt was actually -16, DK's frame 5 jab after shield drop should actually be a true punish on the very last frame of ftilt's endlag. But it obviously wasn't a true punish here, and that's because (as you said later) ult frame data isn't always super accurate with the shield safety figures. Here, UFD didn't seem to account for freshness, which affects shield stun. Cloud ftilt does 11.0% base damage, but this increases to 11.55% when not stale. This is just enough to increase its shieldstun by 1 frame. So it is actually -15 when fresh. Also, likely unrelated, one also needs to account for an attack not hitting its full range immediately. For example, Lucina's fsmash is frame 10, but doesn't actually extend in front of her until frame 11. Samus Fsmash is also frame 10, but immediately hits its full range, making it at least 1 frame faster at punishing an enemy in front.

    • @SmaxSSB
      @SmaxSSB 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you so much for the correction! I had a feeling I was missing a detail or two, dang. I appreciate you taking the time to write this. I'll make sure to note it for future projects!

  • @Phi792
    @Phi792 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a fantastic video!

  • @abeln1167
    @abeln1167 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    great vid!!! theres not much cloud videos!!

  • @rubikvoncube3583
    @rubikvoncube3583 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Such a good vid. Taught me and explained a lot about even general smash mechanics, and was super engaging - subbed!

  • @DarkThomy
    @DarkThomy 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oh yeah, it was teasing at the end, wasnt it?? I want a video on Acola's aegis !!.. Also, wouldnt spot dodge or roll be an easier timing than Parry?

  • @JaceHill-xh8tb
    @JaceHill-xh8tb 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hot take: Corrin bair is just as good if not better than cloud bair.

    • @andreazhab
      @andreazhab 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's not even close LMAO -> slower -> less damage -> absolutely 0 true combos -> technically unsafe-er on shield (the pushback makes it harder to punish but it also means a parry makes it punishable, while parrying Cloud's bair often means that a lot of character still can't get a proper punish out of it) -> worse autocancel window (cloud's autocancels in a short hop, Corrin's in a full hop)

    • @lokks2130
      @lokks2130 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why do you guys like Corrin so much man

    • @JaceHill-xh8tb
      @JaceHill-xh8tb 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @andreazhab well firstly it only does one percent less damage, only two frame slower but it last longer, that push back also gives it added utility to recovery (which is an area cloud struggles in), and while it doesn’t start true combos it is a good combo ender with multiple ways to set up into those combos, and it also kill’s earlier.

    • @kelyansabz8865
      @kelyansabz8865 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Watch SpagO and Shadic play and you'll realize you're wrong

    • @JaceHill-xh8tb
      @JaceHill-xh8tb 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kelyansabz8865 cloud bair spam only exists because cloud doesn’t have any other move that can be used to the same effect. Dair and up air are too unsafe on shield while fair is safe it can be swatted out. Cloud bair is really his best move to pressure shield. Meanwhile corrin has other moves such as fair and up air to pressure shields.

  • @fupalover
    @fupalover 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good thing my character easily beats cloud bair as a ledge trap

  • @codenameunown
    @codenameunown 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the very thoughtful video edits

  • @midnalight6419
    @midnalight6419 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Some constructive criticism. Breaking down the clips in the "how cloud uses bair" segment would be great. Even something as simple as "Cover the jump from G&W, setting up into the dair on a greedy recovery" would be a lot more helpful to players. Or in the clip with fox, how he frametraps fox into getting hit by cross slash. Stuff like positioning actually being talked about instead of "here's some clips that all end in a spike" I think this might tell a new player that the spike and timing of that is what makes spargo good, and not the coverage of bair and movement therein.

    • @SmaxSSB
      @SmaxSSB 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I see, thanks for the feedback! I really appreciate how you structured your criticisms. I'll take note of em for future projects. Thank you for taking the time to write this!

  • @zoomspilo6798
    @zoomspilo6798 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This video gives me big shounic vibes, especially with that one song that's playing at 11:40

    • @SmaxSSB
      @SmaxSSB 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I was inspired by his explanation style and I used a decent chunk of the music he uses, which is made by Banana Slug. You have a very good ear!

  • @Mykahaia
    @Mykahaia 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sure...THIS unique move is what makes him good...not up smash or up air or dair or cross slash or fair or limit or up B...

    • @ellachino4799
      @ellachino4799 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Those are all broken moves but are still more situational than Cloud's bair

  • @KaiJie-n8q
    @KaiJie-n8q 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    sony is worse.

  • @mrzanders4187
    @mrzanders4187 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If mythra's foresight is a good counterplay, what about bayo'd witch time ? Does she win the matchup ?

    • @andreazhab
      @andreazhab 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's not the same thing, because Foresight is attached to Mythra's dodge, Witch Time it a counter that locks Bayo in place for a long time and thus is much easier to punish when baited. Bayo only gets Bat Within on a dodge, which is faster than foresight (frame 1 instead of 2) but only gives her reduced damage and no punish out of it

    • @mrzanders4187
      @mrzanders4187 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @andreazhab oh i mixed up bat within and witch time lol thx for the intel 👍

  • @stephen7971
    @stephen7971 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video! I don't really play fighting games, but have been watching them on youtube a lot lately. I've always been a bit hazy on what exactly plus frames were and how they applied to blocking, move choice, and mind games, but now I feel like I finally have a clear(er) idea of how they work! Also the way you structured the video was perfect; introducing the character/move/player at the start and then breaking it down at every step. I think a lot of people make videos like this, and know what they're talking about, but don't put as much thought into how they organize and present the information, so it ends up being less informative compared to this one. And then the counter play match for the end! Awesome job!

    • @SmaxSSB
      @SmaxSSB 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stephen7971 Thank you so much for the feedback! I'm glad you enjoyed it and were able to learn from it, I try to convey information as throughoutly as I can since a lot of youtubers assume you already know (for the most part) what they're talking about, but many casual and semi-casual viewers don't. I'm glad you liked it!

  • @BiggDrigg
    @BiggDrigg 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really cool and helpful video! I learned a 💩ton in 16 min

    • @SmaxSSB
      @SmaxSSB 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad it helped!

  • @rondoudoushiney3868
    @rondoudoushiney3868 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As Ike I just Up B lol

  • @GwenDollinsinde
    @GwenDollinsinde 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Even though im a cloud main and i know i am biased, I personally think bair is good, but its not the reason why hes good, The combination of bair, fair, up b, and his mobility is what makes him such a great character. Honestly if bair wasnt as good as it is, people would just complain about fair, cus it is very similar to bair, Very safe, long range and combo potential. Great video❤

    • @andreazhab
      @andreazhab 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Fair absolutely NOT similar. You can kinda use it like bair, but the much higher startup and higher hitbox positioning means that it's much easier to be react to than bair and makes it much worse as a move when you try to punish things on reaction

  • @robloxian-craft1941
    @robloxian-craft1941 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Me during the whole video .-.

    • @andreazhab
      @andreazhab 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is this supposed to be constructive criticism