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Brotato But No Re-Rolls (Crazy Skill Run)
Let's up the stakes. Re rolling is crucial in Brotato, but can we win a run without rerolling a single time?
INDEX
0:00 INTRO
0:14 WAVE 1 THRU 10
9:47 WAVE 10 THRU 20
My No Hit / Perfect Ranger Melee Clear: th-cam.com/video/LDpZO1vPTbU/w-d-xo.html
Want to stay in touch? Follow me on Twitter: sean_tier
I will be streaming on Twitch in the future, if that's something you think you would like to see follow my channel here: www.twitch.tv/sean_tier
มุมมอง: 519

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Burning Everything to a Crisp in 20 Minutes Till Dawn
มุมมอง 14321 วันที่ผ่านมา
What happens if we combine Brotato with Vampire Survivors? A demon infested evil haunted demon baby that is 20 Minutes Till Dawn. We'll dive into this awesome survivor roguelike. Can we beat the first run? My No Hit / Perfect Ranger Clear: th-cam.com/video/lLpMsVVIq2E/w-d-xo.html Want to stay in touch? Follow me on Twitter: sean_tier I will be streaming on Twitch in the future, if t...
Dominating D5 With Vagabond (The Best Way to Win)
มุมมอง 29221 วันที่ผ่านมา
Vagabond must mix and match weapons - but what is the most effective way to win? INDEX 0:00 INTRO 0:14 WAVE 1 THRU 10 9:47 WAVE 10 THRU 20 My No Hit / Perfect Ranger Melee Clear: th-cam.com/video/LDpZO1vPTbU/w-d-xo.html Want to stay in touch? Follow me on Twitter: sean_tier I will be streaming on Twitch in the future, if that's something you think you would like to see follow my cha...
I bought 24 sticks as Baby (It's Insane)
มุมมอง 1.4K21 วันที่ผ่านมา
Four new Brotato Characters! The Baby is a blast, let's dive in! INDEX 0:00 INTRO 0:14 WAVE 1 THRU 10 9:47 WAVE 10 THRU 20 My No Hit / Perfect Ranger Melee Clear: th-cam.com/video/LDpZO1vPTbU/w-d-xo.html Want to stay in touch? Follow me on Twitter: sean_tier I will be streaming on Twitch in the future, if that's something you think you would like to see follow my channel here: www.t...
The New Techomage is an Elemental Blast! (Brotato New Char Clear D5)
มุมมอง 798หลายเดือนก่อน
Four new Brotato Characters! The technomage is a blast, let's dive in! INDEX 0:00 INTRO 0:14 WAVE 1 THRU 10 9:47 WAVE 10 THRU 20 My No Hit / Perfect Ranger M,elee Clear: th-cam.com/video/LDpZO1vPTbU/w-d-xo.html Want to stay in touch? Follow me on Twitter: sean_tier I will be streaming on Twitch in the future, if that's something you think you would like to see follow my channel here...
HADES 2 FIRST LOOK (GETTING GUD)
มุมมอง 1554 หลายเดือนก่อน
At long last! Hades 2 is an early access. I consider myself an action roguelike aficionado, how will I fare during my first two ever runs? Want to stay in touch? Follow me on Twitter: sean_tier I will be streaming on Twitch in the future, if that's something you think you would like to see follow my channel here: www.twitch.tv/sean_tier Check out Hades 2 on steam: store.steampowered...
The Perfect Melee Run (NO HIT D5 as Melee?!) Hardest Ever
มุมมอง 8998 หลายเดือนก่อน
A no hit run is challenging enough - what if we did a no hit run with MELEE weapons? Is such a thing even possible? We'll find out today as we attempt the ultimate perfect clear challenge. INDEX 0:00 INTRO 0:10 WAVE 1 THRU 10 9:00 WAVE 10 THRU 18 21:47 WAVE 19 AND 20 My No Hit / Perfect Ranger Clear: th-cam.com/video/lLpMsVVIq2E/w-d-xo.html Want to stay in touch? Follow me on Twitter: twitter.c...
Let's Get Screwy! Engineer Takes Over with Mines & Screwdrivers
มุมมอง 6989 หลายเดือนก่อน
I love the Engineer! And everyone loves the wrench strategy. But whatever happened to the red-headed step-child of the engineer arsenal, the screwdriver? In this guided run we'll showcase why this weapon is likely stronger than you think! Let's Demolish D5 in Brotato! INDEX 0:00 INTRO 0:10 WAVE 1 THRU 10 8:50 WAVE 10 THRU 18 22:10 WAVE 10 AND 20 My Artificer Mine Run: th-cam.com/video/CJJqiAAo5...
Shotgun Demon Goes Nuts (Endless 50+) D5 (I'm Back!)
มุมมอง 1.4K11 หลายเดือนก่อน
Brotato 1.0 IS OUT! Demon is one of the strongest potato's in the current game, lets get together an endless run. INDEX 0:00 INTRO 0:11 WAVE 1 THRU 19 27:15 WAVE 20 THRU 30 45:00 WAVE 40 THRU END Normal Thunder Sword One-Armed: th-cam.com/video/mMlQkUKbcGk/w-d-xo.html Want to stay in touch? Follow me on Twitter: sean_tier I will be streaming on Twitch in the future, if that's someth...
ENDLESS: Buying 275+ Baits On Fisherman (Wave 40+) Insane Damage
มุมมอง 2.9Kปีที่แล้ว
Brotato 1.0 IS OUT! How many Baits can one Potato Buy? The answer is a whole heck of a lot! One of the most fun Fisherman runs I've done, plus one of the best builds! INDEX 0:00 INTRO 0:14 WAVE 1 THRU 19 23:17 WAVE 20 THRU 30 36:30 WAVE 34 THRU END Normal Thunder Sword One-Armed: th-cam.com/video/mMlQkUKbcGk/w-d-xo.html Want to stay in touch? Follow me on Twitter: sean_tier I am deb...
1.0 ENDLESS. Potato Throwers Still Good? 55+ Going Deep w/ Padding/Trophy/Throwers (Busted Start)
มุมมอง 4.1Kปีที่แล้ว
Brotato 1.0 IS OUT! We revisit the Loud / Thief Dagger into Potato Thrower strategy. Is this still the best endless build? How far can we go? INDEX 0:00 INTRO 0:16 WAVE 1 THRU 19 27:20 WAVE 20 THRU 30 35:30 WAVE 30 THRU 40 40:32 WAVE 40 THRU END Normal Thunder Sword One-Armed: th-cam.com/video/mMlQkUKbcGk/w-d-xo.html Want to stay in touch? Follow me on Twitter: sean_tier I am debati...
Spikey Shield Golem is Legit! (Golem D5 Guide)
มุมมอง 1.7Kปีที่แล้ว
Golem is an awesome new character, could this be the best build? There are lots of great ways to play this new potato, ranged, choppers and of course, spikey shields! INDEX 0:00 INTRO 0:09 WAVE 1-10 10:15 WAVE 10-18 21:24 WAVE 19 AND 20 Normal Thunder Sword One-Armed: th-cam.com/video/mMlQkUKbcGk/w-d-xo.html Want to stay in touch? Follow me on Twitter: sean_tier I am debating stream...
Demolishing ENDLESS MODE with KING (45+) Gatling/Chain Gun Craziness
มุมมอง 3.7Kปีที่แล้ว
Brotato 1.0 IS OUT! To celebrate, we will be stomping endless mode with a ridiculous King run featuring gatling lasers and chain guns. Could this be one of the best builds for the new D5 in Brotato? In addition, Blobfish was kind enough to give me three Steam keys of Brotato for a giveaway INDEX 0:00 INTRO 0:17 WAVE 1 THRU 20 22:55 WAVE 20 INTO ENDLESS MODE 26:00 BROTATO STEAM KEY GIVEAWAY 28:4...
Wrecking with the New Cryptid! Demolishing D5 with Claws.
มุมมอง 1.6Kปีที่แล้ว
The new cryptid is a fun character that uses mechanics around keeping your trees alive! In this video I'll feature my favorite build using this new potato to clear D5 in Brotato. INDEX 0:00 WAVE 1 THRU 10 10:43 WAVE 11 THRU 18 20:30 WAVE 19 AND 20 My unmodded endless guide: th-cam.com/video/xZnDLKGm6H4/w-d-xo.html Normal Thunder Sword One-Armed: th-cam.com/video/mMlQkUKbcGk/w-d-xo.html Want to ...
My New Favorite Char? The Apprentice Hybrid Build of my Dreams! D5
มุมมอง 2.6Kปีที่แล้ว
What if we could use every item at once!! This new potato apprentice is featured in a guided playthrough that utilizes a crazy engineering hybrid build with projectiles galore! My unmodded endless guide: th-cam.com/video/xZnDLKGm6H4/w-d-xo.html Normal Thunder Sword One-Armed: th-cam.com/video/mMlQkUKbcGk/w-d-xo.html Want to stay in touch? Follow me on Twitter: sean_tier I am debatin...
Renegade Goes Crazy with new LEGENDARY GATLING LASER (D5 Clear/Guide)
มุมมอง 2.2Kปีที่แล้ว
Renegade Goes Crazy with new LEGENDARY GATLING LASER (D5 Clear/Guide)
Take The Bait! The New Fisherman's Damage Scaling is Insane! (D5 Clear)
มุมมอง 3.3Kปีที่แล้ว
Take The Bait! The New Fisherman's Damage Scaling is Insane! (D5 Clear)
Six New Brotato Chars! (Overview + How To Unlock!)
มุมมอง 6Kปีที่แล้ว
Six New Brotato Chars! (Overview How To Unlock!)
How To Clear D5 With Explorer (The Hardest Potato?)
มุมมอง 2Kปีที่แล้ว
How To Clear D5 With Explorer (The Hardest Potato?)
ENDLESS MODE: Shuriken + Rip and Tear Explodes Everything (WE HIT 1K SUBS, THANK YOU!!)
มุมมอง 4.4Kปีที่แล้ว
ENDLESS MODE: Shuriken Rip and Tear Explodes Everything (WE HIT 1K SUBS, THANK YOU!!)
Beating D5 WITH NO ITEMS ! (Brotato Challenge Run)
มุมมอง 2.3Kปีที่แล้ว
Beating D5 WITH NO ITEMS ! (Brotato Challenge Run)
The Power Fist is Awesome! Demolishing D5 with Brawler.
มุมมอง 1.4Kปีที่แล้ว
The Power Fist is Awesome! Demolishing D5 with Brawler.
Stomping Endless: Loud/Ghost Weapons (My Personal Melee Record) 45+ Long Boi Swings Heavy
มุมมอง 4.3Kปีที่แล้ว
Stomping Endless: Loud/Ghost Weapons (My Personal Melee Record) 45 Long Boi Swings Heavy
OLD NUCLEAR LAUNCHER (Endless Mode) Big Booms on a Small Map
มุมมอง 2.3Kปีที่แล้ว
OLD NUCLEAR LAUNCHER (Endless Mode) Big Booms on a Small Map
Plasma Sledgehammers Stomp Endless (38+) Knight with Anvil Scaling Goes Far!
มุมมอง 2.7Kปีที่แล้ว
Plasma Sledgehammers Stomp Endless (38 ) Knight with Anvil Scaling Goes Far!
Streamer with Sticks is Actually Insane (Is this the New Meta??)
มุมมอง 3.3Kปีที่แล้ว
Streamer with Sticks is Actually Insane (Is this the New Meta??)
The Strongest Potato? Eviscerating the Game with Doctor (Insane 2x Boss Kill)
มุมมอง 1.9Kปีที่แล้ว
The Strongest Potato? Eviscerating the Game with Doctor (Insane 2x Boss Kill)
Over-explained D5. How to Get Better! Diving into Brotato's Mechanics
มุมมอง 2Kปีที่แล้ว
Over-explained D5. How to Get Better! Diving into Brotato's Mechanics
GMO ENDLESS: Mage + One Armed Elemental Madness with Thunder Sword (Modded GMO Brotato)
มุมมอง 1.8Kปีที่แล้ว
GMO ENDLESS: Mage One Armed Elemental Madness with Thunder Sword (Modded GMO Brotato)
12 Stick Multitasker Destroys! ENDLESS MODE 30 + Brotato
มุมมอง 3.6Kปีที่แล้ว
12 Stick Multitasker Destroys! ENDLESS MODE 30 Brotato

ความคิดเห็น

  • @Reflexerus
    @Reflexerus 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How can I take tecnomage

  • @stephensteele2844
    @stephensteele2844 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They turned Greek fire into a red item definitely making hybrid builds a little slower to get online

  • @stephensteele2844
    @stephensteele2844 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really think that a build is overpowered when I can get a d5 clear on the first try lol

  • @gatorskin5600
    @gatorskin5600 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    where the Brotato DLC at what's the Ice Cube item or Jelly, don't think I ever seen those just found the answer, you're on the latest Beta version nice run!

    • @SeanTIER
      @SeanTIER 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Coming in October! And yes those items are part of the new patch which is currently in the beta branch

  • @randomstuff-kb2lc
    @randomstuff-kb2lc 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No item run : ✅ No re-roll run : ✅ Now both at once Sean, shouldn't be that hard for ya

    • @SeanTIER
      @SeanTIER 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Definitely possible, I've come close with saver

  • @SeanTIER
    @SeanTIER 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The challenge run returns!? Only took me two tries 😎

  • @wesleynewcomb
    @wesleynewcomb 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I played this game before I ever played Brotato. It was pretty fun, but I lost interest pretty quickly. A few things: - The auto-lock-on is a toggle. I think you hit a key (don't know which) that turned it on by accident. Generally, aiming your shots is good in this game compared to Brotato - Bullet damage does *not* increase burn damage. There are two broad categories of builds that I found: bullet damage builds and effect builds (like fireballs, lightning, etc.). Generally bullet damage scales better because it's technically not capped. But usually the other effects are strong enough to get you through. Once I found Brotato, I never really went back to this game. Don't get me wrong: it's a fun time-waster and towards the end of runs, you feel pretty strong. But I just felt it didn't have as much depth. I liked that Brotato had more implicit synergies (like Hunting Trophy synergizing well with Thief Knives) whereas this game has explicit ones, which I find less mentally engaging. All that being said, I'm looking forward to more videos of you playing this game. And the dev is working on a sequel currently which I'm interested in.

  • @Tamperkele
    @Tamperkele 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel like 20 minutes wasn't as good as it could have been. Maybe whatever the game the dev was working on next is the banger I know it could be.

  • @DatShadyGuy
    @DatShadyGuy 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I haven't seen a 20 Minutes Till Dawn video in a bit. Good to see it back.

  • @SeanTIER
    @SeanTIER 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It was a fun run - look forward to 'getting gud' and breaking open this game a little bit.

  • @CruelPunish
    @CruelPunish 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That poor fist gave you all that it had, and what did it receive in return?

    • @SeanTIER
      @SeanTIER 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      An ignoble recycle :(

  • @DatShadyGuy
    @DatShadyGuy 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you ever use the GMO mod, Baby/Vagabond might be able to let you get every tag in the game,

    • @SeanTIER
      @SeanTIER 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Now that's a good idea

    • @Bruce_P-Z
      @Bruce_P-Z 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      legendary tag with the -100 HP *shudders in fear*

  • @SeanTIER
    @SeanTIER 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Tinkering with some video editing techniques (I can't edit videos). Elemental is also a better highroll strategy but requires some decent luck (plasma sledgehammer / thundersword)

  • @MSlocum669
    @MSlocum669 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Unfortunately this character railroads you to do sticks. You will not get enough stat boosts offered in the shop to support any other weapons. Maybe another melee weapon is doable. I dare you to do a ranged, elemental, or engineering build. Also welcome back!

    • @SeanTIER
      @SeanTIER 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed, sticks are waaay powerful but the other items do seem weak. Most successful other wep for me has been slings -> snipers and obliterators. Managed to squeak some wrench, shiv and shuriken wins but they were definitely low powered runs.

  • @RyanBuehl
    @RyanBuehl 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The build is so effective that I went to pause the video at the beginning of Wave 17 and you had killed the mini-boss before I could even hit the button!

  • @SEproducti0n
    @SEproducti0n 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You came back. Love to see it

  • @wesleynewcomb
    @wesleynewcomb 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do you know if after getting 24 weapons, do you receive normal level up choices again? Or do level ups do nothing after that point?

    • @trveheimer6360
      @trveheimer6360 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yes, normal level up choices, and just in time for the 25 garanteed red

  • @DatShadyGuy
    @DatShadyGuy 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This baby decided to....stick it to them.

  • @SeanTIER
    @SeanTIER 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Next with this character is 24 shurikens

    • @Bruce_P-Z
      @Bruce_P-Z 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      uh oh.

    • @wesleynewcomb
      @wesleynewcomb 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      24 thief knives

  • @trveheimer6360
    @trveheimer6360 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We are so back! I wont have sleep or a life for the next week at least, I think these characters are quite tricky love how engineering and elemental got items to help it being relevant in more runs BTW, the ENG scaling on icycle comes from Nail!

    • @SeanTIER
      @SeanTIER 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good insight, didnt catch that!

  • @RyanBuehl
    @RyanBuehl หลายเดือนก่อน

    Welcome back! Going to have to check out the new characters

    • @SeanTIER
      @SeanTIER 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My man!

  • @DatShadyGuy
    @DatShadyGuy หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ayyyy! You're back and with more content! Let's gooooooo!

    • @SeanTIER
      @SeanTIER 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      hashtag fire emoji :)

  • @Diamond-thief
    @Diamond-thief หลายเดือนก่อน

    I binged a ton of your videos a couple weeks ago, glad you posted again ❤

    • @SeanTIER
      @SeanTIER 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad to be back

  • @bronzor1718
    @bronzor1718 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He's back! missed your videos man, can't wait for the new content!

    • @SeanTIER
      @SeanTIER 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      <3

  • @SeanTIER
    @SeanTIER หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey I'm back! I plan on making some more content around some of the new potatoes and weapons before the DLC

  • @Lefiath
    @Lefiath หลายเดือนก่อน

    I swear most of the guides for Saver can be summarized by "get really lucky early on, like magically getting the Recycling machine in round 3, getting several weapon speed upgrades to make the spears woth anything and not get boss on round 11 several times in a row and die miserably". Worst character in the game, so weak, so terrible. I've done almost everyone else on D5 and I've been trying this worthless bastard like 20 times already, can you feel the salt? Even at 1800 by round 11 it just feels pathetically weak. Pure luck based trash.

  • @Tyrnorog
    @Tyrnorog หลายเดือนก่อน

    i think what you did in the video was a good build and sling sounds good to, however i was thinking to use the medical guns to heal and shoot and have the liches ability just in case you do get hit

  • @kyler133
    @kyler133 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice run! I tried the same build previously and just couldn't seem to stay out of trouble and got sniped a few times and died really fast. Thanks for showing me how it's done!

  • @eef7251
    @eef7251 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Genuinely insane gameplay

  • @אלחנןזייבלד
    @אלחנןזייבלד 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "crate carrier"? unsubscribe just kidding, love this video style, keep going man!

  • @stephensteele2844
    @stephensteele2844 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dynamite plastic explosives spicy sauce and alien eyes ends up being my damage engine for farmer

  • @ericlin3330
    @ericlin3330 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🔥

  • @the.rosamaria
    @the.rosamaria 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love thiss

  • @Reav001
    @Reav001 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Omg so much talking

  • @SeanTIER
    @SeanTIER 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorry I went to get some milk and got lost but I found a laptop on the side of the road and now I'm back

    • @RyanBuehl
      @RyanBuehl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Welcome back! Looking forward to seeing what you can do with Hades 2

  • @TheEvilProfessorMonoCulture
    @TheEvilProfessorMonoCulture 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Much appreciated thank you for the link

  • @Froze_Lacro
    @Froze_Lacro 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He is to good at the game i am still struggling 😭

    • @SeanTIER
      @SeanTIER 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's OK I can barely tie my shoes without instructions so it balances out

    • @Froze_Lacro
      @Froze_Lacro 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SeanTIER XD

  • @TheEvilProfessorMonoCulture
    @TheEvilProfessorMonoCulture 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What was the Loud Ghost Build you mentioned?

    • @SeanTIER
      @SeanTIER 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      th-cam.com/video/j46pyGjmKuE/w-d-xo.html (endless version) th-cam.com/video/MdwCLGSFpU0/w-d-xo.html (normal version)

  • @danieltoncinski5911
    @danieltoncinski5911 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pls stop saying deep in endless mode

  • @SuperJg007
    @SuperJg007 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this would be great on saver i think

  • @hazzelflex2748
    @hazzelflex2748 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Austria

  • @beacon666
    @beacon666 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m pretty sure there’s some mod influence here because there is a number of items with limits (such as the hunting trophy of 3) and here you have like 10 of them

    • @nyxiescribbles
      @nyxiescribbles 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ive gotten like 5 hunting trophies before

    • @nyxiescribbles
      @nyxiescribbles 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      seems like he prefaced in anoyher comment from 9 months ago that this was before the cap on trophies. i must be misremembering

    • @SeanTIER
      @SeanTIER 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hey, this was done pre 1.0 before hunting trophies were a capped item (this strategy still works but is not AS effective)

  • @jeremiahh60
    @jeremiahh60 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is shady potion worth getting?

  • @ericwong3868
    @ericwong3868 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m by no means an expert but I’m just curious how come you didn’t let the shop roll you a Tardigrade if you were so intent on finding them? I get that the hp scales with more material but wouldn’t 3k be worth a free hit?

  • @Finch460
    @Finch460 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Great run.

  • @jy3406
    @jy3406 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I completed danger 5 on 90% of the characters, but Saver is the one I hate the most by far! I don’t know why but it feels like there is some hidden stat that makes you way more squishy than other characters. I will try your strategy, thanks!

  • @imxfields
    @imxfields 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some STier RNG on this run. Loving your channel so far.

  • @CalThompson-oj2kk
    @CalThompson-oj2kk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They limited padding and hunting trophy to 3 each since this video. Bummer. Still, this guide got me past level 100. When I transitioned to Potato Throwers I started getting cyberball, baby with a beard, rip & tear, baby elephant, landmines, and explosion damage modifiers. Those made it so waves cleared themselves out before I could even touch them until around wave 75. I'm thinking I'll try this run with Glutton. Maybe the explosion damage will get so big each bomb hits the entire map

  • @keenmate9719
    @keenmate9719 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok, so after 380 hours of Brotato, I'm done with it, what are we playing next? I tried Vampire Survivor but I don't find it that good as people claim it to be.

  • @xerfrex7869
    @xerfrex7869 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really like the open feel of the sound but the echo is kinda weird