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Sweden’s Frozen Catastrophe - The Carolean Death March
In the winter of 1718, 10,000 Swedish soldiers set out on a campaign to conquer Norway. What began as a bold military mission quickly turned into one of the deadliest disasters in Swedish history - not at the hands of the enemy, but from an unforgiving force far greater.
This is the story of survival, tragedy, and the relentless grip of nature.
The Carolean Death March.
Special Thanks:
A huge thank you to JTAK(Jämt-Trönderska föreningens Armfeldts karoliner) for allowing us to use their incredible illustrations( by Alf Lannerbäck ©). For more about their work and the history of the Caroleans, visit karoliner.com.
Thanks to Jonna Jinton for allowing us to use her Kulning from Winter's Lullaby. - th-cam.com/video/eNXCeoTDorE/w-d-xo.html
Notice:
No known painting of Frisenheim exists. Therefore, we are using a portrait of an unknown officer as a substitute in this video.
DISCLAIMER:
The images, audio, and video used in the content on this channel are a combination of paid stock, attribution-required, royalty-free, public domain, or otherwise used in accordance with fair use guidelines. No copyright infringement is intended, and all rights remain with their respective owners.
If you are the copyright owner or represent the copyright holder of any material featured in this video and have concerns about its use, please contact us to resolve the matter promptly.
Deep Space av Audionautix licensieras enligt licensen Creative Commons Attribution 4.0. creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
0:00 Intro
0:52 Chapter I
13:25 Chapter II - Early Triumphs, Looming hardships
23:26 Chapter III - Trondheim
32:45 Chapter IV - The Death March of The Caroleans
39:32 Chapter IV - Counting The Cost
This is the story of survival, tragedy, and the relentless grip of nature.
The Carolean Death March.
Special Thanks:
A huge thank you to JTAK(Jämt-Trönderska föreningens Armfeldts karoliner) for allowing us to use their incredible illustrations( by Alf Lannerbäck ©). For more about their work and the history of the Caroleans, visit karoliner.com.
Thanks to Jonna Jinton for allowing us to use her Kulning from Winter's Lullaby. - th-cam.com/video/eNXCeoTDorE/w-d-xo.html
Notice:
No known painting of Frisenheim exists. Therefore, we are using a portrait of an unknown officer as a substitute in this video.
DISCLAIMER:
The images, audio, and video used in the content on this channel are a combination of paid stock, attribution-required, royalty-free, public domain, or otherwise used in accordance with fair use guidelines. No copyright infringement is intended, and all rights remain with their respective owners.
If you are the copyright owner or represent the copyright holder of any material featured in this video and have concerns about its use, please contact us to resolve the matter promptly.
Deep Space av Audionautix licensieras enligt licensen Creative Commons Attribution 4.0. creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
0:00 Intro
0:52 Chapter I
13:25 Chapter II - Early Triumphs, Looming hardships
23:26 Chapter III - Trondheim
32:45 Chapter IV - The Death March of The Caroleans
39:32 Chapter IV - Counting The Cost
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Bra som alltid! : )
I think it's in the book of Samuel,"in spring when kings go out to war". Winter the worst time to fight a battle or invade. Thank you,a piece of history not well known.
It is a secret mystery that in many wars, leaders were shot by their own soldiers. Gustav Adolf has been shot in the back from a legionnaire who switched sides
Reminiscent to Napoleon's retreat from Russia.
Seemes to be a very interesting video. But why destroy it with loud music yelling in the background?
Current era is spiraling down back to this shet
Fine illustrasjoner og gode filmsnutter - hvem har opphavsrett? (Hvem eier kildene?) språket er altfor snublende engelsk, kan du ikke lese ditt eget språk? hadde vær mye bedre, og ift korrekthet ville det vært en fantastisk historie for barn :D :D
fun fact: that picture shown at 25:06 must have been some local reenacting. The Danes as well as the Norvegians and the Swedes used Remington rolling block rifles - although more than 150 years later in the later 19th century rather than in the early 1700's
amazing work. Tack sa mycket!
I'm a new arrival to this channel but sincere compliments on the quality. Amazing work! The more work on Swedish history the better
Welcome to the channel, and thank you so much for watching! 😊 Swedish history is such a treasure trove of fascinating stories, and we’re thrilled to bring them to life. Stick around-we’ve got plenty more to come!
What were the purposes of wigs and high hills worn by great generals in European conflicts?and not to mention the trousers seen from the frontline.
Wigs and tight trousers weren’t just symbols of power-they were the height of fashion at the time. Generals dressed to project authority and inspire their troops, but it was also about adhering to the era’s sense of style. Impractical on the battlefield, perhaps, but undeniably fashionable!
@whitetreehistory okayyyy thanks for ur insight.. dressing for projection
Bravest king with vision
I live in Verdal and there is plenty of local stories and places like Duved,Stene skans/redoubt,Tromsdal and Lake Grønningen i`ve been too along the route the swedish army used. There is also another redoubt that was taken by the swedes that isn`t mentioned here,-a few kilometers west from Verdal there is one small redoubt compared to Stene named Skånes skans about 20:40 on the map
Mycket bra och intressant video 👍🏻
Love your vids...the music is amazing...is it Swedish traditional music? It adds to the atmosphere of it ten fold...I remember reading that the Ottomans nicknamed Charles xii "Ironhead" ... greetings from Ireland...
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoy the video and music - it really does add to the atmosphere, doesn’t it? The music is inspired by Swedish traditional music. In this case "kulning", which really help bring these stories to life. And you are absolutely correct about the nickname! Apparently he was the stubborn type.
@@whitetreehistoryMusic is a great fit, not overpowering your narration. Well done video, thank you 😊 👍
Damn europeans just be fighting
so many finns died under the swedish slavery
Mycke bättre❤Svensk/ Z🧟♂️🚩
Swedish slavery? Had it not been for Sweden the Finns would have fallen under Russian rule centuries earlier.
No wonder Sweden's had a good neutrality record for so long.
It would take almost 100 years before sweden and Denmark - Noway fought their last war in 1814
Norway, like Russia also evidently had a "General Winter".
Trondheim have about one meter of snow today..
No doubt Norwegians still laugh about this defeat.
Not much to celeberate considering how the Norwegians suffered during the campaign.
A lot of effort for not 🚫
Tordenskjold did not annihilate the «merchant fleet» he annihilated the swedish military supplies.
LAKE 👍👍👍👍👍💯💯💯💯💯💯💯🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦
Excellent!!
I couldnt stand the 'singing', had to stop listening
As if fighting half of europe wasnt enough, Sweden had to fight the unforgiven winter too.
One might as well try ;)
Excellent video!
Great video except that the music is too loud and adds nothing to the video. Very hard to hear the narration
I once walked their route in the jämtland mountains in summertime and I think I saw fragmented human bones
Such an underrated part of history.
Agreed! It's one of those stories that deserves way more attention. Glad you appreciate it and thank's for watching!
älskar denna video mannen, är svensk och har väntat efter sånt här content i åratal.
Thank you so much! Glad to hear you enjoyed it. We've got more coming, so stay tuned!
Ja, ja. Svensker...
Most of those Finnish soldiers who were disbanded from their regiment did not now any Swedish at all. They were left on mercy of local people without any economic support. Ostrobothnia Regiment paid a very hefty price for this irrational adventure.
That’s a tragic detail that really highlights how harsh the aftermath was, not just for the soldiers but for their families and communities. The price they paid feels even heavier knowing how vulnerable they were once the campaign ended. Thank's for watching!
Where is world’s largest military cemetary of native 🇫🇮? .. Storvallen 🇳🇴/🇸🇪 Total loss at the mountains 5000 stupade/KIA ”ostland”❤🇫🇮 trooper’s❤
We didn’t know that - it’s a powerful reminder of the sacrifices made. Storvallen truly stands as a silent witness to the loss in those mountains. Thanks for watching!
Well told, scored and illustrated. Astounding quality
Thank you! Really glad you enjoyed it!
Does anyone else feel like this whole campaign was doomed fromm the start? Honestly, was this bravery or just pure stupidity? Marching through freezing mountains with starving men. What did they think would happend?
It’s easy to call it stupidity from where we sit now, but imagine being one of those soldiers - freezing, starving, but still following orders because turning back meant death anyway. I think that kind of perseverance, even in a hopeless situation, says more about their resilience than poor planning.
That’s a interesting way to look at it. I suppose in the end, it wasn’t really about winning or losing for those soldiers - it was survival, step by step. Makes you appreciate their perseverance, even if the whole campaign feels like a tragic mistake in hindsight.
The winter was late that year and December had not been that harsh and there wasn't that much snow up in the mountains so the march home could be done without too many problems. Retreating while they could and still had some supplies. Obviously no one knew that there was to be a snowstorm for days..
Interesting that, supposedly, Charles XII would care about Norwegian civilians. I'm referring to the supply depos he had built along the border. According to how the story is told in the video, the Swedish soldiers seemed to initially not plunder the Norwegian farms in their path, but instead tried to barter with them. I understand that the Caroleans had enough supplies and as such did not need to plunder, but as you pointed out in the video - plunder was usually the norm during war. Even if you had food, soldiers would usually take anything of value from civilians that crossed their path. Later, the Caroleans were desperate and plundered anyway, but that is beside the point. Based on the information above, could it this be some kind of early recognition of kinship between Swedes and Norwegians? In the modern day, all of the Nordic countries consider our neigbors to be our brothers, but could this extend even to so long ago when our peoples were enemies? It is possible that since our languages are so similar (especially back then), that invading Norway would have seemed to the common Swedish soldier like invading another region of Sweden, rather than a truly foreign land - like for example Poland or Russia. Assuming this, it is possible that Swedish soldiers would feel less inclined to steal from Norwegian farmers even while at war (as this would be highly illegal to do to Swedish farmers if they were to be in Sweden). I mean, Swedish soldiers were by far mostly farmers, so it would not be hard for them to relate to the Norwegian farmers at the time. Just some thoughts, let me know what you think.
That’s a really interesting point, and I think you’re onto something. There could definitely be a mix of practical and cultural reasons behind the initial restraint shown by the Caroleans. On the practical side, keeping local populations calm and cooperative would make it much easier to move through and control the area without constant uprisings or disruptions. A peaceful populace is less likely to sabotage supply lines or resist, which would have been crucial for maintaining order during a long campaign. The cultural aspect is just as compelling. Many recruits in the Swedish army, especially those from regions like Jämtland, had deep ties to Norway through trade and shared heritage. These soldiers likely knew the land well and may have even known local families personally. For them, crossing the border might not have felt like entering enemy territory in the same way marching into Poland or Russia would. The close linguistic and cultural similarities could have fostered a sense of kinship, making the idea of plundering feel more like stealing from neighbors than from a foreign foe. Interestingly, we actually had a section in the original script that touched on this - specifically how soldiers from Jämtland had long-standing ties across the border. In the end, we decided to cut it during editing to keep the focus tighter, but it’s great to see others picking up on that same idea. Thanks for sharing your thoughts - it’s always great to dig into these layers of history!
_"Based on the information above, could it this be some kind of early recognition of kinship between Swedes and Norwegians? In the modern day, all of the Nordic countries consider our neigbors to be our brothers, but could this extend even to so long ago when our peoples were enemies?"_ No, you're extrapolating too much from too little and too loose an anecdote. It is true, as Whitetree has already written, that populations living just along the border often had shared ties. However, the Norwegian population as a whole was very anti-Swedish. This goes for even large sections of the border population, like the inhabitants of Frederikshald, who happily scorched their own town just to stop the Swedish advance in 1716. Recommendations given for jobs or posts in Norway at the time sometimes include sentences like "He is a good, honest hater of Swedes, like all good Norwegians".
It is not hard to imagine an army of the dead, like in The Lord of the Rings, bound to that mountain, forever wandering it and searching for the way home. It is rather haunting to know that they are still up there, even if their bones have been scattered since the 300 years ago they died.
That’s such a haunting and vivid image. The idea of ghostly Caroleans still wandering the mountains, searching for a way home, is both chilling and fascinating. Imagine sitting around a campfire and catching a glimpse of them through the mist - it’s the kind of thought that sticks with you. History and legend have a way of blending in places like that, and it’s easy to feel like the past is never too far away. Thanks for watching!
One of my forefathers' brother, Halvar Rönnberg, was one of the soldiers who perished in the snowstorm. He was 19 years old. Of the 14 soldiers from my village, only 8 came back. Two of them had severe frostbites and had their legs cut off.
Thank you for sharing - having a personal connection to this history makes it even more powerful. We appreciate you bringing that perspective to the story!
Interesting. It's fantastic that we have such good records in Sweden compared to most other nations. Where do you come from from? Hälsingland? On my dad's side there was 8 carolean soldiers if I remember correctly. Most was Dragoons from Upplands dragonregemente. Some died in the storming of Lemberg 1704(?) and others in Poltava. ( It was a long time since I heard the stories so I don't fully remember all facts )
@@hnorrstrom I am from Jämtland and the stories about this event is still told in the mountain villages. But most of the knowledge about this tragedy comes from the book "Död på fjället" (Dead on the mountain) printed by I5 Fältjägarna (5 field jaeger regiment) for the 250 year memorial.
I was doing a road trip and walked in the area and saw the monuments and stuff some 10 years ago. I might try to see if I can find that book. It's a very interesting time in our history.
I guess you could say they were Finnished!
Excellent video, from across the border in Norway
Thanks. The Name is skans, and not Skåne. You have had a lot of them, in the old Time.
Thanks for the comment! 'Skåne skans' is actually the name of the specific redoubt in this case. But you're absolutely right - there were many skansar built during that time!
@whitetreehistory no, Stene skans, thats according to the map. Hej då. Åsa
One tough Norwegian equals 100 swedish nitwits💪👏😎🤩
Älska Sverige
Sabaton - Ruina Emperii (my favourite Sabaton song) is about these events.
Thanks for sharing - Sabaton’s way of turning history into music is incredible. It’s amazing how a song can make these events feel even more alive and impactful!
HELL YEAH!
Mother nature is an exceptionally unforgiving foe. I have a feeling it is a pitiful story many failed invaders could tell about such regions. To die slowly in the bitter cold, starving and struggling so far from home. To instead be quickly cut down in battle would be a blessing, in comparison anyhow.
Absolutely! Mother nature can be the most unforgiving enemy . There’s something haunting about armies falling to cold and hunger rather than battle. A quick end in combat almost seems merciful by comparison. Although freezing to death is more like falling asleep. Thanks for sharing your thoughts - we love exploring these powerful moments in history!
An harrowing story, but excellently told as usual!
An excellent video as usual! What a terrible situation for Sweden and the people. One can wonder how the Great Nordic War would have gone if Karl XII had not died in Norway
Thank you so much for the support! The Great Northern War could have taken a very different turn.
Perhaps Norway have been a part of Sweden today`?
@@drdal We don’t think so - at least not at this stage. By this point, the goal seemed to be saving as much as possible. As we mentioned in the video, with Denmark out of the war, Sweden had a chance to retake Finland and possibly the Baltics. During our research, we found that Tsar Peter actually hesitated to attack Sweden because of how quickly a new army could be raised. The Carolean army still carried its reputation - even more so with Charles XII leading it. A victory in Norway would have only strengthened that belief.
The music and the narrators summary of this tragedy brought tears to my eyes. 😢
We're glad the video resonated with you - history like this carries such emotional weight. Thank you for the continued support!