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If you are located near Boise, I'll happily make a stop next trip.

@@petespesting not even

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What gave it away? Was it the chopping of the wind from the blades? Lol.

@@petespesting yeah the recognizable sway from that chopping is a dead give away. Shooter pb went to free fall marksmanship school 😉

I'm not really familiar with the sidewinder guns. This video is referring to the sidewinder magazine for the FX airguns. Sorry I'm not more help.

@@petespesting No problem I just thought there were a new mag for the sidewinder.

Unfortunately I'm not sure of anyone that makes a higher capacity mag for them. I've only had the opportunity to play with one 1 time.

Thanks Dale. We are looking forward to many more rides. We are also wanting to try our hand at coyote calling on rides. We just need to figure out the best setup for gear, then away we will go.

No, not yet. I really want to. @brawler.1588 has one and is a good friend of mine. He sends me vids often, and they are amazing. I'm looking forward to the NV008SP2 from PARD. I think it is really going to compete well against the Zulus.

This is the 850ir

That's actually a great question, Sandy. So in the display while looking through the scope, I am actually seeing the yellow mark at the correct point of aim, but there is some sort of a software glitch that causes the yellow mark to show in the wrong spot on the recording. It seems like that only happens with the shots where I have to holdunder, but the longer shots with holdover seem to display correctly. I have actually spoken to one of the developers for PARD and informed them of this issue.

​@petespesting That's weird mate, I've got the same and it doesn't do that. check if changing the reticle makes a difference in recording. Also have you updated the scope

I just did the most recent update and hoped that would fix it. I'll try a different reticle. Thanks for the input.

I sent both of mine back. I switched and went with a PARD DS35 LRF and NV008S LRF and have been very pleased. Also check out the Arken Zulus, it might currently have the best NV picture.

There is no comparison. The PARD is much better quality. I highly recommend the PARD scopes. I have both the NV008S and the DS35 and love them. They work fantastic, have great quality and have given me zero issues in the past year.

And that's exactly why I bought the 4yr warranty from Amazon. It cost 48bux and has a zero deductible. I live in the desert and do a lot of filling in the summer when it's 110 out. Keeping it cool will be a challenge, but amazon will be stuck replacing it for me.

I'll send you a text.

The PARD has been my favorite NV scope so far. The battery life is pretty good (better than the wraith) and it takes flat top 18650 batteries so you can have a couple and just swap if needed. I get about 4 hours using the internal IR on the factory battery. The replacement batteries I bought are cheap and only get me about 3 hours run time.

Heck yeah, I'm gonna have some footage next week hopefully.

@@petespesting Sweet! I'm about to head out here in a bit with a caller and a Lucky Duck decoy to see if I can call one in. If I do, time for the .30 Pcat hunter to shine! You'd think with a $4000 rifle setup that has a thermal optic and another 5K in NODs I would be pretty effective! Haha.... we'll see

Haha, I know the feeling. Last night I tried to get one and missed by a ton, only to realize my scope mount was loose. But I got it on recording. Lol.

It is modified, I have the 700mm smooth twist liner, with slug probe and heavy hammer.

That's crazy. The only thing I can think is the harmonics. Different moderator and barrel band or position will change all of that. I don't know if I could even get these back to that level of accuracy if I went back to 22cal with my Maverick.

I have messed around with a buddies Foxpro. I like the Lucky Duck better, but I think it's really personal preference. I think it really boils down to good sounds, and Predator University makes the best.

These 3 were taken with the FX Maverick 30cal. I have it tuned to shoot NSA 61.5g slugs at 915fps making 114fpe.

I love it. that’s what I thought it was from the thumbnail but couldn’t quite make it out right on.

I also have in Impact tuned about the same that I use. But the Maverick has been getting extra love lately.

Thanks Dale. It will be even more fun in a few days with some 62g VK's.

I don't know. I returned mine to ATN after the failed to perform as described.

Sorry for the late reply, yeah, it sucks. It was so bad I returned the pair I bought.

That setup would only refill the plenum every other shot. The regs were set to 113/133

From my past experience with the 4k Pro series, it needed to be input through the app. Unfortunately they still have not released the new app for the gen 5 scopes.

Ah gotcha. Thanks

@dennisfelts1167 no problem. I ended up returning both of these units after too many problems.

I can't help you with Rock Chucks in Utah. We have some permissions in Idaho that we go after them to help out some ranches. You just have to go to rocky areas and scout for them. Prairie dogs are much easier to find in Utah.

I direct shot to the head does kill it. Those are nerves still reacting. I promise it did not feel anything after impact.

@@petespesting silly thing for you to promise as you can’t know. What was your weapon/caliber?

30cal air rifle making 100fpe with hollowpoint slugs. That going through his head at 53 yards ended him. If I shoot head shots. The nervous system has reactions like this. If I shot vital shots they usually hop off bleeding out.

@@merica23 maybe you should add something productive to the thread.

I would have posted an after picture, but a coyote stole it from me. Lol

Yeah, I have heard that concern. That's one of the cool features with the DS35, it auto corrects the picture to put the reticle back in the middle. It also has a circle display instead of rectangle.

I should have some great footage in a couple weeks.

@@petespestingso where's the tests? It's been awhile 💀

I actually have multiple videos up right now showing coyote hunting with both scopes. I'll try to put together a dedicated video on them in the coming weeks. They are performing awesome. The LRF is on point, and there was a new software update on the DS35 that fixed my only real complaint, now it zooms in 1x steps.

I will let you know as soon as I get a chance to test them.

So far, they are well out performing the X-sight 5. The video quality is similar to the 4k Pro, the ballistic calculator seems to work better for airguns than the atn calculator. The compass and gyro work great and are easy to calibrate. The only negative I have so far it they only have base mag and 1 zoom which is double base mag. I do like continuous zoom better. The stock IR lights work amazing.

@@petespesting Nice! Does the OS run smoothly? The X-Sight 5 constantly freezes and requires me holding down the power button for 15 seconds to get it to restart. It also doesn’t register button presses well either. I find myself pressing the record button several times before it actually registers the command. Does the Pard Ds35 record in 2K or 1080? I read about the magnification being the base, a 2x, and then a PIP that you can activate by double pressing the top turret. Honestly, if the BC works well, the OS runs smoothly, and the video looks good I may make the switch.

I have not had the scopes freeze a single time. Resolution is 1920x1080 on the DS35. I like it better than the NV008s but they are both better than the Gen5 scopes were. I also had the same button issue on the gen5.

@@petespesting you sold me on the DS35 lol. Just got mine and I gotta say it is pretty impressive. The 1080 during the day looks way better than the 4k on the ATN does. Night vision is also excellent! Best part is, the Pard just works with no fuss!! 😂. The ATN does have some additional features that the Pard does not but they’re not worth the headache of all the issues the ATN currently has. Oh, and that circular display with the extra long eye relief on the Pard is definitely the cherry on top!!

I had great luck with my 4k's but these gen5 scopes were no good.

Yup, if you listen closely on the 60fps setting you can hear me talking very faintly. It sounds like I'm 15 feet away from the scope, even though am actually on the scope talking. I have started the return process on both scopes for now. Also one of the scopes they sent me would freeze of I was recording and tried range finding during recording.

I tried recording in all resolution setting and none were good. They all are hard to find a good focus. Ultimately I have decided to send them both back to ATN.

@@petespesting That’s a bummer! I just ordered one yesterday. If I have the same issue with mine I’ll be doing the same

@@JavisBoomTech I wish you better luck. ATN tried to convince me I got a bad unit, but getting 2 units both with the same issues sounds less like a bad unit and more like a bad product. Also one of mine would always freeze and require a hard reboot if I was recording and tried to use the LRF at the same time.

@@petespesting I’ll let you know how it goes with mine. Not a lot of reviews/videos on the X-Sight 5 so hard to tell if issues are widespread. I don’t see any firmware updates on their site for the new 5 either

Please let me know. I hope yours is better.

It's pretty simple to set up. The hardest thing is the ballistic calculator. Once they release the app for the 5 series, then it will be even easier to setup.

@@petespesting thank you for getting back to me. I appreciate it just got mine and wasn’t sure how hard it was to set it up. I wonder when they’ll come out with the app for it

It seems to be a problem with the processor not being good enough to keep up with the 4k quality. As the frame rate increases, the quality goes downhill quickly.

@@petespesting Thanks for the info. I'll keep the 4k Pro for now until the bugs are ironed out on the Gen 5.

In my opinion, that's a good decision

The video quality of the 4k pro is so good, surely once the bugs are sorted the gen 5 will be good 👍

Yup, just have to get to that point.

ATN does not list the minimum anywhere. I will have to test it to see if it's down to 10y or higher than that.

@@petespesting that would be appriciated :)

I did some testing today and it looks like the 3-15 model will focus down to about 7 yards.

@@petespestingthanks. wow that is nice and close for ratting 😀 . now I'm very interrested. But not yet availble in europe 😞. Ballistic calculater any good for airguns? GA supported?

@jp8351 the ballistic calculator works amazing on airguns. That's what I primarily use these scopes on. I have an FX Impact and Maverick that they usually go on.