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Look at you making things up and trolling as usual, not distracted at all.

I have been riding for a while now, just don't have the time to get any footages as my riding is 1 hour each way and I prioritize reporting bad drivers than uploading videos. I am reporting about 2-5 per day for RLJs, close passes, double white line overtakes and phone violations.

:) I will summarize the law for you. The stop line by default for cyclists is the second stop line, and when a green cycle symbol is showing, any cyclists at that stop line can proceed. And as shown in the video, I crossed the second stop line with a green symbol. I did not run any red light. Here's the Law cited. (8) A green signal indicates- (a)subject to paragraphs (b) and (c), that vehicular traffic may proceed beyond the stop line and proceed straight on or to the left or to the right; (b)where the signal is an arrow, vehicles may only proceed in the direction indicated by the arrow; (c)where the signal is a pedal cycle symbol, only vehicles which are pedal cycles may proceed. So the law is saying that I did not run a red light. As I have a green cycle symbol and there is only ONE continuous second stop line. Where the road marking provided for at item 48, 49 or 50 of the sign table in Part 2 has been placed, “stop line” means- (a)unless (b) applies, the first stop line; or (b)in the case of- (i)a pedal cycle; or (ii)a vehicle which has proceeded beyond the first stop line, the second stop line. (4) In sub-paragraph (2)- (a)“the first stop line” means the transverse white line or lines appearing below the pedal cycle symbol in the road markings shown in the diagram at item 49, in the diagram at item 50 or in either version of the diagram at item 48; and (b)“the second stop line” means the transverse white line appearing above the pedal cycle symbol in the road markings shown in the diagram at item 49 or 50, or in either version of the diagram at item 48. Want to apologies for your wrongful accusations?

​@@roadbiker8333 Umm... no. You didn't have a green symbol, the bike lane had a green symbol. You weren't in the bike lane. The law says you need to wait. You didn't wait. At the 21sec mark of your video, you can see the street to the right is leading into this intersection. So you are now in the intersection. You ran the red light, it's as simple as that. But I'm sure it surprises nobody that you continue to deny it.

@@roadbiker8333 How about you stop blocking my replies so we can discuss this like adults?

@@roadbiker8333 You can't win a debate by silencing your opponent, but you can lose one by doing so, like you just did.

@roadbiker8333 The rules say you have to wait in the waiting area. You didn't wait. Only an entitled cyclist would interpret the rules as you have here. It's no wonder you have such a bad reputation.

So you're just going to completely ignore the fact that he ran the red light here?

Yet I didn't run a red light according to the LAW. Let's dive into it: The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016 (8) A green signal indicates- (a)subject to paragraphs (b) and (c), that vehicular traffic may proceed beyond the stop line and proceed straight on or to the left or to the right; (b)where the signal is an arrow, vehicles may only proceed in the direction indicated by the arrow; (c)where the signal is a pedal cycle symbol, only vehicles which are pedal cycles may proceed. So the law is saying that I did not run a red light. As I have a green cycle symbol and there is only ONE continuous second stop line. Where the road marking provided for at item 48, 49 or 50 of the sign table in Part 2 has been placed, “stop line” means- (a)unless (b) applies, the first stop line; or (b)in the case of- (i)a pedal cycle; or (ii)a vehicle which has proceeded beyond the first stop line, the second stop line. (4) In sub-paragraph (2)- (a)“the first stop line” means the transverse white line or lines appearing below the pedal cycle symbol in the road markings shown in the diagram at item 49, in the diagram at item 50 or in either version of the diagram at item 48; and (b)“the second stop line” means the transverse white line appearing above the pedal cycle symbol in the road markings shown in the diagram at item 49 or 50, or in either version of the diagram at item 48.

@roadbiker8333 You're in the middle of the intersection, and you crossed a red light to get there. It doesn't matter how you misinterprete the law, that's the quintessential example of running a red light. The green bike light you referred to was for the bike lane, not the traffic lane. Why don't you just follow the rules like the test of us?

Nope, I entered the ASL legally and as that is a continuous stop line from the left side to the island in the middle of the road, This ONE set of traffic light applies for the entire stop line. Did not run any red light. The law is clear on this. " The green bike light you referred to was for the bike lane, not the traffic lane." Nope, the green cycle light applies to the entire stop line and applies to the entire road actually. :) The law does not say that green cycle light only applies to cycle lane unless there is a separate stop line. :) too bad. you are wrong on this matter.

@roadbiker8333 You know how I know that you know you're wrong? You blocked so many of my posts which prove it. Tried to win the debate by silencing your opponent. Winners don't do that.

LOL. Looks like you DON"T KNOW the law at all I will wreck you again. "It was previously only legal for a cyclist to enter an ASL from the break in the solid white line, usually found as a small gap on the kerb-side edge, however, this changed in 2016, so now a cyclist can enter from any point." "Some junctions have an advanced stop line to enable you to position yourself ahead of other traffic and wait (see Rule 178). When the traffic lights are red, you may cross the first stop line, but you MUST NOT cross the final stop line." OPPSSSSSSSSS. and no, I did not close psss the motorcyclist, they were stationary and I gave way more than 1m to them. they were in the tyre track, I was in the tyre track, and tyre tracks are usually 1.4-1.8m away as that's roughly how wide cars are. thanks for the troll. :)

​@@roadbiker8333Where did Scottlaa say anything about ASLs? Logically speaking it's okay for the cycle lane to have a green light as you can proceed along the cycle lane without crossing any streams of traffic or being in conflict with any motorists joining the road. The moment you're out of the cycle lane, ignoring the general red light, there's the possibility of conflict with vehicles entering the road on their green light. Right? Do you have any evidence to suggest that it's okay to cross the second stop line when the red light is showing even if you're not in the green lit cycle lane?

​@@roadbiker8333 "I gave way more than 1m to them" That simply isn't true. The biker's boot and right handlebar are virtually central to the lane. That leaves you maybe 1.6m of open space in the lane. The video shows you riding centrally in that space. 1.6m divided by two = 0.8m. Deduct half a handlebar and you're at circa 50cm away. Even using your numbers if he's in a tyre track that's 1.4m away and we deduct half his width and half yours, is the distance "way more than 1m"? His bike will be 70cm wide or more, yours 50cm wide or more, so deducting a minimum of 35cm + 25cm from 1.4m gives just 0.8m.

@roaduser6438 as per the google map, his foot was to the left of the front wheel and my bike was in the chainring of the bike logo. That gives me more than 1m of space. And that counts from his leg. They were stationary as well.

The law states. Any cycles uses second stop line as stop line. First stop line simply doesnt mean anything to cycles. Second, green cycle light is not dedicated to cycle lane only but all cycles at that stop line. And we can see, there’s only 1 stop line. across, therefore it applies to me. There’s no island between the cycle lane and the normal traffic lane. The law is there.

Looks like you don't know how to read or watch the video. But of courss, you blame the victim as usual. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 keep trolling schizolaaa

Isn't there a rule saying that vehicles in bus lanes and cycle lanes or even any vehicle that's going straight ahead has priority over any turning? So why do you think that I needed to give way to the van and not the other way round?

Awwww look at you trolling so hard and making things up. I was looking at my gears to make sure they were changed correctly. Yet again lies from you :)

So is it illegal to go through amber light now is that what you are thinking now? schizolaaa.

Except I was following exactly what all of those instructors were doing and as you can see on the instructor videos, they also don't have a line on the right side but they still follow the line on their near side away from the centre of the roundabout. I didn't misinterpret anything and I was following the correct line. Looks like you fail to understand their video. I even color coded them and compare those lines to other roundabouts as well confirming that the silver car was following the wrong lines. The silver car was following the lines that's dedicated for traffic joining roundabout. Meanwhile, I was following the lane line dedicated for the traffic that's ALREADY on the roundabout. The silver car picked the line directing traffic onto the roundabout at 0:17, Because we were joining the roundabout and that's correct. Then at the 2nd exit, he again picked the line directing traffic onto the roundabout at 0:35. On a spiral roundabout, you can't pick the same line joining the roundabout and already being on the roundabout. meaning the silver car was following the wrong line. "The line you say takes you into the same lane as the silver car is for the previous exit and should be on the cars offside. " It's on the silver car's offside and is directing the silver car off the roundabout. Meaning, they HAVE TO leave the roundabout. Also what do you mean "previous exit"? previous exit is already gone. it has no bearing on this. LOL "You cut up the silver car which was in the correct lane" Nope. I didn't cut up the silver car at all. The silver did exactly what the red car did to me in th-cam.com/video/BCJYfQhk1dA/w-d-xo.html Are you saying that the red car was driving correctly? Because my approach to both roundabouts were EXACTLY the same meanwhile the silver car and the red car were doing EXACTLY the same action cutting me up. This explanation should be clear enough for you, but why do you still get it wrong?

I recognize your videos as well, especially from the video with the lorry pulling out as I always use that road to get onto Walford road from King power stadium.

Thanks for proving that you don't know how spiral roundabout works. You think that I was driving wrongly despite clear instructions. As I have already clearly proven, both videos, both roundabouts have the same lane markings. Both the red car and the silver car crossed the exact same lane markings. Therefore. BOTH the red car and the silver were wrong. Thanks. You keep proving yourself wrong and completely ignorant. :) What's funny is that you told me to go into middle lane when we join the roundabout with the silver car at the first exit. Meaning you would be telling me to go into the middle lane at 0:36 into the side of the red car. Look at how wrong you are. crazy logic you have there.

@@roadbiker8333you are wrong about the lanes being the same look at the lane markings at 1:24 completely different 😂

Same lane markings. red car crossed the same lane line as the silver car. :) confirmed at 1:24. You continue to make things up as usual.

@@roadbiker8333 two photos different road markings giving different directions, it’s even on the photos 😂

@@scottlaaa Two photos showing exactly the same road markings giving the same directions. Both the red car and the silver car crossed the same lane line making both driving wrongly. and in both photos, I was crossing the same line, meaning in both situations I was driving correctly. Your ability to recognize road markings is the same as your ability to distinguish a discovery from a evoque

The lane markings are exactly the same. If you are saying that the silver car can stay on the roundabout, then you are saying that the red line at 0:41 is correct. Are you saying that? Isn't that your view of "guide lines"?

Nope. 0:28, I have used a very clear yellow circle to circle out the LAST arrows for the lanes. As we can see. All of them have straight on arrows. Just like the left lane on holyprot roundabout. And the left lane is required to leave the roundabout 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I didn't purposefully edit anything out, in fact, I circled them right there for you. Funny how you completely ignored it. Ignoring facts, as usual Good that you point out the arrows. As this video shows, straight on arrows still direct traffic off the roundabouts. and the last arrow for both holyprot roundabout and the redmoor roundabout are straight on arrows. So no, it did not indicate that the silver car can continue in the roundabout. You lost again. This proved that I didn't change lane, I was just following the correct lane markings. The silver car changed lane into me by crossing the lane line that are dedicated to us.

I followed my lane markings to my exit, using the left most lane available for me to use. Yes, use the left most lane for the exit unless overtaking is the default lane choice. Even two different instructors have stated that. One I have already put in the video, the other is in the link in the description. There's no lane marking saying that the left lane or the middle lane can turn right to get to the exit we were taking. It does not matter if the arrows for middle lane is straight on or left turn. They still need to follow the lane lines that's dedicated for us to leave the roundabout. If they cross them, that means they are changing lanes. As it has already been proven in this video, the lane line that the silver car went through is dedicated to roundabout traffic - ie us. The lane line that I went through at 0:33, 1:06 (small video), 2:36 (instructor video (NOT THE LINE POINTED OUT BY GREEN ARROW)), 3:43 (instructor video), is dedicated to joining traffic. That's why we went through them and it is not a lane change. I followed exactly what all the instructors said and did themselves. And I have also said, If there's any contradiction in road markings, Lane lines are the markings that dictates whether you have changed lane or not. This silver car went over the lane lines that are dedicated to us, that's them changing lanes into me. I didn't cross any lane lines that's dedicated for the roundabout traffic, therefore, I did not change lane at all. UK roundabouts are often poorly marked, the most important thing to follow is lane lines, then if there's no lane lines, arrows and signs. I was also driving safely as well, despite me using the roundabout correctly and it was the silver car who changed lane into me, I checked the mirrors and saw this idiot changing lane into me and I reacted to it, just like what the instructors recommended as well. Too bad that you have been proven wrong, however you act like the mirror guy and Sean Sean and refuse to accept that you are wrong.

The mirror guy's downfall: merc cut up th-cam.com/video/HJp62zD_RNw/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/sRL6sPbVeQU/w-d-xo.html The mirror guy trolling so hard that he exposed himself as someone who don't understand how roundabout works. And then Sean Sean, also trolling so hard that he was calling a red light a green light. You trio of trolls...... how cute.

@@roadbiker8333​​⁠​​⁠​⁠at 2:36 are totally different lane markings than what you cross at 0:33 😂 Your lane is continuing and the middle lane is continuing. I am completely baffled why you continue to ignore the straight on arrows in lane two of the roundabout which i have pointed out to you multiple times! Your piss poor attempt at proving anything has failed miserably all you have done is waste your time making this video 😂 The road markings on both videos are completely different the learner driver makes a mistake on the roundabout which can be expected due to lack of experience whereas your mistake is dam right dangerous!

@@roadbiker8333the fact you changed lanes when you don’t need too and almost crashed, then you reported it to the police and they said you were wrong 😂 Not to mention there’s multiple times throughout your videos where you are wrong 😂

I didnt ignore straight on arrows. As i have already proven many times, many roundabout uses straight on arrows to direct traffic off roundabouts as well. So you mentioning straight on arrows mean nothing at all. The silver car changed lane into me dangerously, i have not changed lane at all.

Lol. Nope, that’s applying YOUR logic. Thanks for the troll though. :) So if we apply your logic to apply here, at 0:32, you are saying that the left lane can turn right and cut across my path. At 0:32 here, is the same as 1:57 in the other video, as you can see, i was well past the first exit, therefore i follow the line on the left to peel away from the roundabout. Just like what i did at 2:00. Not a lane change, just following the correct lane line. 🤷🏻‍♂️ YOU are the one with the logic that roundabout traffic needs to follow the lane line to put you towards the centre of the roundabout instead Of leaving the roundabout. I was following the same approach and logic as per the roundabout with the silver car😂😂😂😂 yet more proof showing that you know i was drivivng correctly but just want to troll. I will add Your comment here to my new video. 👍👍 thanks for the reminder. I forgot about this video already

This driver looks like what you would have done, driving all over the road then thinking you are right😂😂😂 If we apply your logic here, at 0:26 you would have turned left like how you said i should go to middle lane at 1:33…….. and at 0:35, you said that the silver car was correct to stay on roundabout, which is similar to saying that a car in lane 1 on the roundabout can turn right across the right lane, to stay on roundabout lane 1. That’s your logic. See how ridiculous it is? Troll!

Why are you keeping quiet now? LOL, realised how stupid your comments are?

@@roadbiker8333at 0:32 is the same as you saying the silver car should have turned off you should have continued around 😂

@scottlaaa are you having a stroke or what?

@@Mr.1.i not really, it’s mostly the tailgating, and as i said, overtake was not ideal, but not feel like i was going get knocked off. That overtake was less than 1.5m away, so it’s not ok really.

Yea right, we didn't. :) We joined from the dual carriageway, which is one entry before the black lines at 0:19. our entry is depicted at 0:06 by blue lines. I use color coding. Blue lines our correct approach, red lights wrong approach, black lines, other entries' approach. Now that you get caught using the wrong entry, AND the fact that you are saying that the silver car was using the roundabout correctly and using the lane lines correctly, you have literally just confirmed that the lane lines there are dedicated for joining traffic. 2 sets of lane lines, 2 sets of traffic input, 2 sets of traffic output. Now you have confirmed that joining traffic uses the lane lines which I went over, you have confirmed that I wasn't changing lanes as I wasn't the joining traffic. I was the roundabout traffic. So I use the other set of lane lines, which is what the silver car went over. So thanks for your comment, as this literally just confirmed that you agreed that I was using the roundabout correctly and driving safely and correctly. It was the silver car who changed lane to me.

I love how much you continue to troll when you have been proven to be wrong. :)

@@roadbiker8333no trolling here 😂

@@scottlaaa awww typical trolling by you. How cute is that.

@@roadbiker8333it’s now trolling pointing out poor road standards? Do you not see the irony in that comment? 😂

nope, you are always trolling as usual. There's no pedestrian waiting nor crossing on the crossing. So typical of you just making shit up.

@@roadbiker8333at 0:28 pedestrian heading for the crossing yet your speed is still way too fast you didn’t even show any hazard awareness at all!

@@scottlaaa And there you go making things up again. The pedestrian wasn't going for the crossing. He stopped there and didn't cross.

Yet more trolling from you. Wasn't speeding up at all. anticycliat attitude telling cyclists to get out of the way of drivers. troll.

Nope, I was in the correct lane, a spiral roundabout directs traffic off the roundabout. You got it wrong again. Go and learn how the roundabout works before commenting here and embarrassing yourself.

Embarrassing yourself taking this to the police they laughed at you they should have prosecuted you for that dangerous lane change!

No dangerous lane change performed by me as i followed the lane lines that is dedicated for us. The silver car changed lane into me and failed to follow the lane lines that is dedicated for us. Only the traffic with right arrow can stay on roundabout and the left and middle lane is required to leave the roundabout. This is how spiral roundabout works, yet more proof that you dont understand how the road works.

@@roadbiker8333your own analysis puts you in the wrong lane at 1:32 😂 you should have been behind the silver car at 1:41 🤦🏻‍♂️

⁠@@scottlaaaexcept the analysis is exactly what the instructor said on how to navigate such spiral roundabout. Follow the line putting us towards the inside of the roundabout until after the first exit and established on the roundabout.1:31,This is before the first exit. Therefore, i was correct to follow the line to the right, not left. The fact that you think going behind the silver car at that point was the correct choice is completely wrong as then i would be changing lane into the left lane’s traffic, yet more prove that you dont know how to navigate roundabouts. For some reason, you think that i should follow the lane lines to get me off the roundabout when joining the roundabout but then follow the lane lines to stay on the roundabout while i have already established on the roundabout……… it’s crazy you got it completely wrong. Not surprised though.