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New sub; thanks for the video. Love the looks of the 1300 GSA ! Cheers

I stuck and bought one of the last 1250 GSA Trophy’s at the dealer. Love it and saved a packet!!

Makes sense to stick but, if you were to twist, take all the extras off the 1250 - they must be worth close too £2000 second hand

i have none or the money and ths 1250 was always my dream bike and now they ended it! maybe one day ill get a 2nd hand 1250..

Great review, I’m in exactly the same position as you re limited mileage p/a. Totally concur with you on the cost to change stops me changing right now. Another year with my beloved GS 1250 TE. Alps beckoning in 2025.

Great review,im hoping to get a ride on one when my 1250 goes in for a service.If you do trade your bike in remove all the extra,s and sell them separately. That will be recouping some cost.However,i believe the 1250 is a classic and if you still enjoy riding it why change.ive owned mi e for 2 years and done about 7k on it.i would like to think i will own it for at least a couple more years.

Excellent sum up - I am in exactly the same position as you. On my 4th GSA, latest is 23 plate triple black. 5 -7k to trade up maybe but not that amount you were quoted. I did try a Ducati Multistrada V4 Rally earlier in the year. Gorgeous looking bike with big service intervals - but did not give me that wow factor to warrant paying 27k. Plus it did sound like a sewing machine - not what I expected. All first world problems though. Nice one

Hey Buddy, I’m only 5.5 mins into the video and am amazed at all the extras you have out on this bike! It’s a lovely bike, personally I think the 1300 is great but I would keep the 1250 for a few seasons more until you have had the value out of the money already spent. If you change now you will lose so much money. Wait for the depreciation so slow down and for you to have had more time with your beautiful 1250. All the best

I have a feeling that if you had removed your panniers and top box (not to mention your other farkles), you would have found the acceleration and handling differences almost negligible... stick stick stick... not worth the additional cost.

Seems like a nice bloke, seems like a sensible bloke but that last 5 minutes totally summarises the sadness of motorcyclist and their thinking these days. He's got a cracking bike and rather than think about where he'd go on it, be route planning, trip planning or actually going somewhere of interest and enjoying it, he's thinking through PCP deals, how to justify a pointless change of machine and all because BMW have released the next part of their 10 year rolling plan to change models. The answer is, when you've got between 80 and 100k on the clock and there's the potential you might need to spend a bit of money on it (and it will only be the potential), then consider a change. Enjoy and ride what you've got and ignore what the marketing boys tell you that you need.

I would give you £13500 for GSA today 🎉

Back to Back view from the Cockpit comparison: the 1250GSA looks more substantial and that is one of the reasons why I opted for it, plus the deals that you can get on the 2024 is huge.

Just got a R1250GSA 2024 and remembered seeing the lighted BMW Rondel Indicators, where did you get them if you don’t mind sharing.

Careful fella 30 in a 20mph zone

That engine sounds horrendous 😮

Stick all day long, especially with the kit you have on yours. I've a 2019 r1250gsa hp with 7000mls on it and wouldn't part with it even if I could afford to.

Stick. I love my 1250 adv (22). You don't need anything more than driving time;). And the sound of the 1300 is just awful. Wait until they fix the bugs we are seeing - there are already 5 service actions Probably need a year, maybe two for all the fixes with gs 1300 / adv.

If you can afford that ridiculous amount of money I'd buy the Ducati multistrada much better looking than that tug boat

A very well executed vlog. Kudos to you sir. I still can’t get around the looks. I still see a photocopier on wheels. I really admire the 1300 gs asa.As you rightly point out financially it makes no sense.

You’re so right stick, all day long, your 1250gsa will still do everything the 1300 does , £15k is mental to swap , you could have a S1000rr sat next to the one you have , your good friend would lost in no time😅😅the way sales operate is mind blowing, to de value your pride and joy is so sad when it’s obviously mint, great review old boy 😅

I tested one a couple of weeks back. Yes the 13 is (maybe) a bit quicker when extended but that isn`t my riding style nor is it the reason folk generally buy GS`s. The 13 engine is rough, coarse and does not feel refined at all - the engine sound is dreadful with a cacophony of rattles knocks and whines, the exhaust note muted. It sounds like a neglected push-along lawnmower. I`ve been on two 13`s and both had poor gearbox feel. Not an inspiring experience at all. The suspension is too firm - it`s an adventure bike not a sports bike. Overall it felt rather clincal and inert lacking in any character. I am really surprised at all the reviews saying how much better it is. I was interested in what i thought of my 1250 when i got back on it and can honestly say i much prefered it - smoother, quieter, better throttle feel and with a lovely pop and burble on the overrun which the 13 does not have. Overall the 1250 just feels `friendlier` and is much more of a comfortable, rounded pleasant ride that just feels `right` When you consider the cost to change it`s a no from me, i`m keeping my 1250. And then there`s the 13`s looks.......

I would sell both and buy a Ducati Multistrada RS.

First time I’ve seen you and really enjoyed the vid! I ride a 2021 R1250R and am contemplating going back to a GS so I found your comments very informative. I agree with you on the pricing, 15k+ to upgrade from an already excellent bike that you love doesn’t really make sense! Let someone else take that big depreciation hit and pick it up used in a couple of years is my plan!

I have the same bike and the ASA + Radar + Electric Shield is the things I want! Is not only expensive but the fact that I cannot transfer the panniers and top box to the new bike is another expense all together! Great video!

Wow, nice farkles on your 1250. Well done.

The adjustable height option is a game changer for us short guys.

Looks like the one you road had the standard seat but set on high. I get what you mean regarding the difference, it’s huge. I was quoted £7k for my 1250GS against a 1300GSA.

I’m in the same boat as you with an identical 1250 GSA. I will not be changing to the 1300 because: 1. The 1300 is noisier with transmission whine and engine clatter - I’m almost prepared to bet that the next incarnation will be quieter (as they’ve done this before) your video picks up the noise well. 2. The upgrade cost is more than twice what I have paid in the past from a 2 year old to a new. 3. The looks haven’t grown on me enough.

Enjoyed this vid a lot. It was like listening to myself talk as we share the same thoughts and sentiment. You also fully loaded the 1300GSA just like I have. I twisted. I do only have the 1200GS though so it's a very big upgrade for me.

I stuck. Been riding R bikes with only a few departures since 1998. I currently own 2019 R1250RT and all told, 352,000k miles on BWM motos., yet at age 73 I feel my 2016 GSA and my 2019 RT are my last two Beemers! Too expensive for me!

Interesting video. It literally took me years after several test rides to click with a Boxer engine given I was riding four cylinder bikes for years. BMWs seemed like tractors. And then unbelievably wanting to change my bike seeing a 1200GS in a local dealers without a test ride I brought it. As I rode away from the dealer I just clicked with it and loved it. Over recent years I have traded GS in for various other Adventure bikes CrossTourer. Tiger1050 and more recently Pan America nothing wrong with any of them but they just weren't a GS and lacked its character. I would love to have a 1250 or 1300GSA but age and finances tells me its not going to happen so I am happy on my 1200. Like you I don't do many miles each year other than a week in France each year. As for the look of the 1300GSA I quite like it and I think its the same has the Pan America in that it looks better in the flesh than in any photo's I have seen of it. You now have a new Sub.

Had a 19 plate 1250gsa from new, standard height, 4 yrs later i could have had one of the first 1300's, alas a brand new 1250gsa triple black was right behind the first 1300 in the showroom, and that sold the 1250 again to me, but like you a low height version, i just can't love the new 1300 headlight, the 1250 gsa still knocks out the park for me, the 1300 may have a better/faster but noiser engine, but if i wanted a sportsbike i'd buy one, i'm sticking with my 1250 gsa for 3 years, but it'll stay a lot longer if that headlight doesn't change, and may lead to me leaving the brand.... we'll see...

Very wise indeed!! You could buy a new 900GS for the price of that trade in!

Bonkers !!! money , same here in N.I. Oh buy a beemer they hold their value my arse , you done the right thing .

Great video, that’s a big cost to change, but… I am testing again the GSA this week this time with the auto ASA, will I stick or twist?

Stick with your bike it's a lovely bit of kit 👍👍👍

I ordered also triple black asa….trading my 23 trophy

Just remember the more miles you do on the 1250 the less you are going to get , once you go over 20,000 miles no one will want to touch your bike as nice as it is !! I was in the same boat and bit the bullet, haven't looked back as the 1300 is by far a better bike in every department!! Plus I'd rather lose £200 on a new bike pm , than to have it deprecate by the same value and be stuck at the end !! Hooe this helps

Stick. You have at least 2.5-3k of extras, and you will have to replace them all. That coupled with the loss you will take on trade-in will be a big hit in the wallet. Earlier this year I was looking to trade my 2018 1200 gs fora 1300. Instead i traded for a 1250gs with 300 miles on the clock. Swapped my Panniers / racks and all my farkles straight over to the new bike!

I have ordered a 1300 GSA Tripple Black, full option, but without the adaptive cruise control, with the double Akra. trade in my 22 Full option GSA. Costs of the 1300 GSA €33500,-

That 1250 probably has a couple of grand of after market kit on it so maybe strip that off it and 12 to 13 maybe about right. Stick keep it a couple of more years then twist for one that’s not new.

Stick- the sound of the bike you rode sounds awful.

1250 engine sounds better it’s not got that whine the 1300 makes, additionally I stick not worth the price to swap 😊

Stick. I also have a ‘22 triple black. They initially offer 12-12.5? No way. You’ve got a beauty there and it’s got a ton of useful extras and really, no mileage - ride the wheels off it. A full spec ‘25 (without ASA) to replace what I have including luggage and nav comes in at around US $35K out the door. Insane. My ‘22 is just fine, thank you.

How do you find that screen? My standard 1 give me sooooo much windblast in the chest. Do you have a link to the screen and the brackets ? Thanks

Stick for the time being. I’ll likely change my 23 GSA in a couple years time. Maybe for the 1300GSA or possibly the new 1390 SAS from KTM. I think your feeling about ‘significant’ power and acceleration improvements between the 1250 and 1300 boxer are largely illusory. There are various side by side tests of the 1250 and 1300 GS online - acceleration wise, there’s nothing in it. In fact, the 1250 is slightly quicker 0-100kph and also in top gear roll on. The 1300GSA is a very nice machine for sure, but let’s not get too carried away with performance differences (4% more torque and 8% more power).

stick .as you have a great bike and the new one is just because its new ,

the 1250 GS/GSA is a superb bike , the new 1300 is noisier and whiney and less comfy , but it is a swap i do not regret , the only regret i do have about the bike is having it without the ASA , that gearbox is super easy and smooth . but i also did the maths to an ASA and could not justify the swap

Stick!

You came to the same conclusion as me. Have you noticed how small the price to change has become between a 23/24 1250 gs verses a 23/24 1300 gs. Hold tight for 12/18 months. Your bike is very well kitted out and low mileage , you’ll have no problem shifting it privately when the figure to change becomes more affordable . Love my 2024 GSA, Steve at a bike think set my indicators , tail light & brake lights to pre 22 model spec. Takes 5 mins on the Hex GS911 plug in. A look so stuck me the sports dash on . 👏👏👏