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Even after reading the book, this is the one FF game I feel like it actually needs a remake. It’s an incredible game with so much unused potential. This is like the Gohan of Final Fantasies.

Take yourself less seriously lol.

KH4 is going to be that, hold on king

That og Noctis, the bored king. And we did get the m-rated 16 but vs was a truly unique take on FF and a true spiritual successor to KH1, gameplay-wise. I think the game was never really in full production. He was involved directly in every KH spinoff game, and produced most of the original PSP games, there were so many... By the time it got cancelled with xv's announcement. All I could say was, the only good reason to cancel is if they're finally doing the ff7 remake fans never shut up about from the ps3 tech demo. And I was right. I definitely would rather have had versus 13 but business-wise I get why remake was finally ready to happen and I'm largely happy with it but it's the obvious problem with this business... If you want to do a big ambitious project, it pretty much has to be established IP. Which is just dumb. The KH4 gameplay looks sweet. I also hope the Rebirth team make a new ATB game that's an original story/characters to keep the momentum from 7R Part3. Maybe someday, after KH4, Nomura will finally get to make a vs13.

I thought you were Pedro Pascal from the thumbnail

Would portability help with shaving off the length of said RPG? It works for me. Hence why I love the Nintendo Switch so much. Granted not all games are on it, like Metaphor & the FFVII Re games, (unless you have a SteamDeck I guess), but to me it works since me and my family constantly go back and forth from our home to visiting my extended family in recent years that I rarely have time to sit down to play long home console exclusive RPGs or games. Which I guess is another reason I am hoping that Nintendo Switch 2 will address having bigger end quality ported games in the future. Well for me. I like my Sony, but I just find less time and reason to play games on there. Like I can't take it with me on the go you know? Hmph maybe if they treated the PSVita better this would not be an issue, but alas that ship sailed long ago. Not to mention Sony has been weird with their Console management, (looking at you PS5/PS5 Pro), that it is unlikely they would go portable again. Also isn't FFVI long by default, HD or not?

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nice video, but there will be more radiohead in the future

I think about this game everyday 😢

It has nothing to do with Nomura being director, or how you feel about the payoff in his games. After Nomura left good chunk of that original staff left with him Some of them A list devs who worked at square for years. We know for most part what happened, it's been documented. Square was on fire, there was no engine to make the game for few years there, because they fucked up their engine for FF13, 14 came out and was 06 of FF series, so they pulled resources from Versus to help fix that game. And it's not just me saying this. Level designer for 15, who worked on Versus mentioned how it wasn't Nomuras fault, but problems internally at Square, and apperently they were having problems with lvl designs for weeks, and once they showed it to Nomura he figured it out for them in few minutes. I'm not just trying to defend him, but for years people who hated Nomura either for KH or direction FF went in tried to twist everything into blaming him for what happened, and for good 2010s, that was the story, until people started to actually read offical info and not what people on 4chan said, and now there are videos, that go deep in what happened from offical info. The timing was just not good. 7th gen and it's problems, and so on.

Try Radiohead and lsd

As someone who has never finished FF15 tbh the game was I kinda call FF15 a beautiful disaster the idea of FF15 was supposed to be vs 13 that was a god damm cool idea! But sadly like you said it’s gone in some way. FF15 was nothing like what it was supposed be in 2006 I find FF15 a fall I still have hope that maybe Vs 13 could be revived in some way I’m not really sure etc . Well anyway great vid man keep it up

I had the same sentiment. Honestly kinda hurts when i hear friends say they dont care. Your buying an objectively bad product with enormous potential.

It was said that the game turned into a musical. Respectfully, I understand why you fall in love with concept and realize why it was canceled. Example bioshock infinite original idea was epic. The product wasn't what was originally visioned for the game. It doesn't mean the game didn't we got is bad.

I think pokemon should compromise. Have a small team that makes really stupid quick buck games (like brilliant diamond). Then have the other team work on long term huge expansive games. I personally think brilliant diamond is a crime of fraud that it exists, but if nintendo needs sales, and kids are willing to play anything with pokemon then give them that, and let the real pokemon game be something that pulls people to the switch like mario odyssy or breathe of the wild

The "mafia" type thing was a trend in japanese pop culture back then in anime and others, i mean just on the ps2 there is capcom´s beatdown and sega´s yakuza, there were lots of gta clones in the west and even in the final fantasy world, with the final fantasy vii compilation, there was before crisis, the Turks game, where they are literally like the mafia working for shinra (or the FBI of midgar lol),... so there was in the air, also the Noctis type of character was also around, was the era of the emo´s after all, The Bouncer, crisis core, dirge of cerberus, type 0 and kingdom hearts and advent children all have styles that reminds of Noctis and the versus-final fantasy XV style, would have been a game inline with those but would have been far better than FFXV as a more solid game for sure

Just by looking at the footage of versus you can tell a) that was totally doable, and b) you could totally tell the type of game it would have been, i mean, that game looks exactly like a type 0, Crisis Core or Kingdom Heart, and in the story style, yes it has it´s own content but the style would have been exactly like type 0, crisis core or kingdom hearts, and i would love it, it would have been solid and just like those named games the charming style is were they are at.... the problem with FFXV was the mainstream, cause the media and mainstream audience didn´t like FF 13 and square-enix tried to be a triple A company in the ps3-360 era they wanted to "the main jrpg" company, and that affected FFXV, all of the sudden they had to have the most impressive graphics, to follow trends like GTA V, The Last of Us or even some online games, and episodic content, and of course woke censorship, and that was one of the many issues, of course the change in directors and the lack of real development time, is sad, but business can affect quality

Never bored about versus 13 videos

i love the end of the movie..... and the very beginning.

I mean, it didn’t necessarily get “cancelled” so much as the development spent so many YEARS “spinning its wheels” in development that they eventually “spun what they had” into FFXV. A similar thing kinda happened with Ni-oh and The Last Guardian (though those weren’t based on preexisting IPs at the time). KH3 ALSO took forever to release so I just think Nomura is hella CREATIVE but has horrible project management skills.

It'd be Nice if Modders tried to recreate THIS version of the game.

Joe Os, trader joes' version of spaghetti Os without all the crap. Theyve been gone for a couple years now. Dont think theyre coming back

The thing that hurts the most is that the plot, written as a book, or presented as a youtube video, is very good. But the plot through the game’s narrative is awful.

I like Radiohead music too. Kid A is a favorite. I also enjoy OK Computer.

I had no hype for FF15 and I was still majorly disappointed by it. The cut content was everywhere and incredibly apparent. One of the major villains just dies offscreen and you find this out by reading a note. You go to meet the love interest and she just dies basically immediately after and we have no idea who she even was or why we should care. Despite having so much urban setting in the promotional material, you are pretty much confined to wilderness for 90% of the game. What a bizarre game it turned out to be.

What really makes me wash my hands of ff15 is that they did make an attempt at improving the story with Gladio, Prompto, Ignis, and Ardyn episodes. But then they canceled all the rest of the DLC. Its clear as day that they were done with this game and just wanted it to die. I really don't see them ever trying to make any kind of come back with this game. 15 was square's worst blunder of a game to me. It leaves nothing but a sour taste in my mouth when I think about it.

13 looked loads better too

Its very clear Square Enix goes way too ham on game development and it never works with their repeated poor management. We got a new Secret of Mana game (Visions of Mana) last year and the dev team, Ouka Studios, get almost immediately shut down.

It’ll probably be either 5-10 years if they even decide to go back and touch XV. which means 15-20 years before it would be released if we get lucky.

With large emphasis on playing in insomnia and then traveling outside the city really gives the feeling of FFVII theme wise.

You know something i'm annoyed that i lost, as a game, to this day? Fantasy Life, the pixel art version that was being made for the nintendo DS. It was released on the 3ds later, but with decent 3d models, not the gorgeous pixel art that was the original idea. I still hate that change, to this day.

This wasn't until the Switch era where yeah, I have to agree. BUT. Before that, the formulaic but still high-quality main entries were balanced by TONS of creative spinoffs. So yes, Black 2 didn't revolutionize the formula. But you had Snap, Stadium, Trozei, Rumble, Ranger, Conquest, Mystery Dungeon. It was a GOOD SERIES before modern greed homogenized it with mediocrity.

If we are being honest, Pokémon should be putting out the most cutting edge video games in the industry. Innovating and being masterfully made. But here we are folks…

There it is! thanks for the reupload :)

Had an issue with the initial upload. Sorry if you were watching and it cut out - the video was simply too powerful for TH-cam to handle

What happened to the Pokemon video?? I was just watching it

I'm also not excited for KH4 repurposing Versus XIII ideas. That was the appeal of Versus XIII for me, it looked like the good parts of Kingdom Hearts, with a beautiful gothic noire aesthetic, without the colorful Disney aesthetic and cartoonish antics. Putting those ideas in Kingdom Hearts defeats what made them so appealing. I want a Nomura game with no Disney. His ideas are outrageously cool, they're even occasionally extremely well realized, but I want an entire game like that, not little nuggets of that tucked away behind hours of Disney movie plot shenanigans.

Me too but it’s in kingdom hearts universe now

I'd like to think there is a universe where Versus XIII exists.

…thank you so much ❤

AHHHHH I KNEW YOU’D TALK ABOUT RED!!! that scene…my god bro…

The good news is that square enix doesn't announce many games early into development anymore. We don't even know what they're going to be releasing this year.

I think Final Fantasy 8 and 15 could use remakes. I would also add to your point. The Villains left so much to be desired. The show all these interesting characters but when you play the game all you get is Ardyn Izunia.

I will ALWAYS!!! be upset over this. I keep watching the early trailers even to this day.

ME TOOOOOOOO!!!!! I'M STILL LONGING FOR VERSUS 13

BRO YOU ARE THE REALEST ONE FOR THAT INTRO 😭😭 Final Fantasy Versus XIII will always be with me

I really commend the way you’ve been able to organize and articulate your feelings about Versus XIII/FF XV. I hyped up and anticipated Versus XIII since 2006. I remember picking up FF XV from the store and having to pull my car over to the to regain my composure because I was almost hyperventilating. This thing I’ve been hyping up for 10 years was finally in my hands. I took a week off work to play it. When I talk about XV with my friends, all I can say to convey my feelings is likening it to a film with all my favorite characters cast in it, and they’ve been given a shit script. I still can’t put into proper words how I feel about how the whole thing went down but I love the way you laid it out here.

I legitimately thought this video was satire. Have the standards for story telling and gameplay fallen so far? This game had some of the worst writing and pacing in any game Ive ever played. Defending this boring combat system is unhinged. This is nothing innovative about it.

Combat was boring. Every fight is either button mass against enemies that don't do anything or stagger the one guy, unload your cooldowns, then button mash against the rest. Boss fights are "better because there's actually stuff to dodge and openings in their attack patterns you need to exploit. The game however, has no respect or expectation of the player's skill and forces you to restart from checkpoints mid-battle with full potion restores. Why doesn't it give me the option to restart from the beginning of the fight? Why isn't the mid-battle checkpoint feature exclusive to the easier difficulty? Why do I need to fully complete the game just do have a difficulty that doesn't put me to sleep? If they're going to make it a single character action game why not let me at least choose to be challenged? Why is the party function bound to the attack button? Why is it that if I want to parry, I have to hold my attack and wait, but if I just mash the button I'll parry randomly anyway? You can talk all you want about skill expression, but when it's most efficient to save your skills for staggers, there's no point in wasting them to not have them available when you need them. I wish they had had some sort of party system. Being able to switch between characters, each of them playing a little different, all of them having their own abilities to cycle through, or at least have available would have been nice.

RIP concept of FF versus XIII