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Jim Driver
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Hello, I'm Jim.
I live in the English seaside town of Ramsgate, 70 miles south-east of London, as the gull flies. Quite near Margate.
I love TH-cam. After escaping the music industry, I've been videoing and writing almost full-time. I've also been putting on gigs in London and beyond for more than 50 years.
Please subscribe to my channel and like my videos.
My Patreon page: www.patreon.com/jimdriver
I live in the English seaside town of Ramsgate, 70 miles south-east of London, as the gull flies. Quite near Margate.
I love TH-cam. After escaping the music industry, I've been videoing and writing almost full-time. I've also been putting on gigs in London and beyond for more than 50 years.
Please subscribe to my channel and like my videos.
My Patreon page: www.patreon.com/jimdriver
5 British Bands from the 1980s That Should Have Been Huge
In this video, I delve into the vibrant world of 80s music to spotlight 5 British bands that flew under the radar but truly deserved more recognition. From innovative sounds to unforgettable performances, these hidden gems contributed to the rich tapestry of the era's music scene.
Join me as I explore their unique styles, significant contributions, and why they remain underrated to this day. Whether you're a die-hard fan of 80s music or just discovering this incredible decade, this video is a must-watch! Don't forget to like, subscribe, and hit the notification bell for more content celebrating the best of British music history!
Forgotten British Bands of the 1980s.
0:00- Introduction
00:39- Adrian Borland and The Sound
02:43- The Teardrop Explodes | Julian Cope
05:34- The Doctor's Children/ King Buffalo/ Helter Skelter (Paul Smith)
07:11- The Fire Next Time/Wood/ James Maddock (Wes McGhee)
09:50- The Triffids (David McComb)
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Join me as I explore their unique styles, significant contributions, and why they remain underrated to this day. Whether you're a die-hard fan of 80s music or just discovering this incredible decade, this video is a must-watch! Don't forget to like, subscribe, and hit the notification bell for more content celebrating the best of British music history!
Forgotten British Bands of the 1980s.
0:00- Introduction
00:39- Adrian Borland and The Sound
02:43- The Teardrop Explodes | Julian Cope
05:34- The Doctor's Children/ King Buffalo/ Helter Skelter (Paul Smith)
07:11- The Fire Next Time/Wood/ James Maddock (Wes McGhee)
09:50- The Triffids (David McComb)
** Can you help me make more videos? **
Even a pound or two would help me pay for the equipment and software I need:
• One-off "cup of coffee" via PayPal: www.paypal.com/paypalme/jimdriver
• Monthly Patreon subscription: www.patreon.com/jimdriver
Where I get most of my lovely music:
www.epidemicsound.com/referra...
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Tube Buddy: www.tubebuddy.com/jimdriver
VidIQ: vidiq.com/?afmc=5rf
DISCLOSURE: Some links are affiliate links at no cost to yourself.
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The sound were really great, especially from the lion's mouth. Sadly Borland struggled with mental health and went the same way as Ian Curtis. Liked the teardrop explodes and some of Cope's solo stuff
Definitely The Sound - marvellous band, and you can add to that The Comsat Angels and The Chameleons.
All great calls. Thanks!
THE MONTELLAS!!!
Sorry, I don't know The Montellas. I'll add them to my list to check out. Cheers!
The Comsat Angels another great band that should have been huge.
Yes, I agree. Because they came from Sheffield, they never had as much exposure to the London Pub Rock scene as other bands I worked with, and I only have vague memories of them. I'll reacquaint myself with their music. Cheers!
Did see the Hamsters doing Hendrix in a kind of review thing years ago. What they did, they were very good at, unfortunately I think they bored themselves to tears doing it and that translated to anybody attending one of their many gigs.
I think you make a good point. I despaired of the Hamsters when I saw that they all changed into slippers in the dressing room! I think, to be fair, that they considered it a job, like plumbing or working in a shop, and the lack of creativity got to them in the end. Thanks for joining in!
The Sound were amazing. Should have been way more recognised. Just don’t get it
I quite agree. There were quite a few bands that should have made it bigger but The Sound were definitely one of the most talented. Cheers!
0:01 What’s the name of the band and song in the intro? Not even Shazam could find it
If you mean the video right at the very start, that's King Buffalo, 'You Got Love'. You can find the full version here: th-cam.com/video/4Z186tFLsPM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=42vtcBgVMeadth8G If it's the music under my speech, that's library music called 'Action Rock' or something. Cheers!
The Triffids song Wide Open Road still gives me a shiver down the spine. Will check out those buffalo doctors guys ASAP.
Thanks for commenting and for watching. I remember when The Triffids played at the Cricketers, the audience was mesmerised by them. You can find King Buffalo/Doctor's Children music online if you search and ignore the recent US band masquerading as King Buffalo. Here's the full version of the track I played: th-cam.com/video/4Z186tFLsPM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=42vtcBgVMeadth8G
Great video Jim ! Good selection of bands...(Tear Drops were pretty big)..Count Bishops were a great live band , but sadly not great on record....Looking forward to more of your recollections, wishing you all the best 👍134......
Cool, thanks, I appreciate it! Cheers!
Nothing about The Vapors and their swirling, ethereal, groundbreaking rock opera classic 'Turning Japanese'? Aaaw...
Sorry! But thanks for watching: I'll do some digging on the Vapors (I only have vague memories) and see what I can do. Cheers!
Julian Cope = Brain Donor.
You can't claim The Triffids, very (West) Australian band with very Australian subject matter.
Oh go on… They did live in London and quite a lot of the music they made when they were here reflects that. Cheers!
triffids and teardrops are good never heard of the other 3
That was part of my mission with this video: to bring lesser known bands to wider attention. Thanks for watching and for commenting!
Never saw The Sound but met Adrian Borland a few times in the mid eighties and my mate Steve sang BVs on his solo album. Adrian was clearly a troubled chap even then but also obviously very talented. So sad the way he passed, but at least the music survives.
Thank you for sharing your connection to Adrian Borland. The Sound live on through their music and through people's memories. Cheers!
I have to admit i only know of one of these bands The number one band of the eighties that should have been massive were It Bites One of the most talented bands to ever walk on a stage
Thanks for the input. I'm not very familiar with It Bites, I'm afraid. I'll check them out. Cheers!
You forgot 2 Bands : Cardiacs and Stump.
Funnily enough, the Cardiacs are on my list to cover in a future video. I was thinking of them when I remembered that Max joined The Sound. As for Stump, although I put them on many times and enjoyed them (and I stayed in touch with Mick (for a while), I'm not sure they were ever commercial enough to be HUGE! Nice thought, anyway. Cheers!
As the manager of The Sound from their inception, I’m delighted to say that Warners will be reissuing their 1st 3 albums on vinyl in November! Including From The Lions mouth… their magnum opus. Enjoy !
Thanks for getting in touch and for sharing that news. Cheers!
Godfathers should have been massive 🙁
Yes, I agree, They are another vastly underrated band of the era. Cheers!
Although Cathal Coughlan and Sean O’Hagan are Irish I would add Microdisney to this list. The clock comes down the stairs is a great album and the lyricism and instrumentation is impeccable. It seems they got overshadowed by the smiths being on rough trade. There’s also a great documentary about them on iPlayer
Yes, Microdisney were on an original list, as were Aslan, Maybe in a future video. Cheers!
The Sound were brilliant, From the lion's mouth is perfect 😏
The Sound were great, that's for sure. I've just seen they've got a feature in the current Uncut magazine. Perhaps they're on their way to that elusive stardom after all… Cheers!
No mention of The Pirates
No. Funny that… 😎 Thanks for commenting and for watching. Cheers!
Why is that? They were a large part of the pub rock scene and influenced Wilko Johnson / Dr Feelgood? Any reason why they weren’t mentioned?
Adrian Borland and The Sound They instantly reminded me of The Doors
Yes, I see what you mean. I remember when I saw them live (at Kingston Poly, I think, but might have been Thames Poly), I remember feeling tiny snippets of various band's influences during their set. Nothing too obvious or overt, just like flavours in a meal… Cheers!
The Triffids? British?
As I said in the video, they were Australian but moved to London. They became part of the British music scene of the time and David wrote about experiences he was having in London. I'm not a great believer in nationality, anyway. A citizen of the world! 😄
RIP Kenneth Cope
Indeed. Thanks for noticing and for watching. Cheers!
cool vid mate
Thanks, I really appreciate the support. Cheers!
Reminds me how grumpy 1980s bands were.
There was certainly a lot of grump around in the 1980s. Thanks for watching and commenting. Cheers!
Loved this vid, thanks. I remember watching The The Sound on Whistle Test and being fascinated and slightly put off by Borland's intensity, he also came over quite badly in music press interviews as someone a bit too impressed with himself but a talented and very honest songwriter nevertheless but I was saddened to hear of his passing. I was a huge fan of The Triffids when I was at uni, I played their first album, Treeless Plain, non stop and if I listen to it nopw it takes me right back to 1983! Another band that should have been huge were surely The Go Betweens, never quite made it past indie cult status for some reason.
Thanks, I really appreciate the comment! The Go-Betweens were considered for the video but I thought I was already pushing my luck by including one Australian band! I think now Adrian would have been diagnosed with something like ADHD and he might have received the help he needed. I remember hearing that he described himself as a "schizo" to friends. Cheers!
The Sound and The Triffids were fantastic.
I think 4 out of the 5 bands were truly great. I'll leave it to you to work out which one I'm not quite so keen on. 😄 Cheers!
The Teardrop Explodes were pretty big.....
Yes, but they could (and maybe should) have been way bigger if Julian Cope hadn't shredded their chances with the 'Wilder' album. and disbanded them. Despite its popularity now, 'Kilimanjaro' never broke into the Top 20 album charts, and only 'Reward' has had significant chart success. After that, it seemed to be a self-engineered downward spiral. Plus, I always try to include one band most people will have heard of to get them watching… 😉
The Chameleons should have been huge.
They are. They certainly haven’t “vanished without a trace“. This bloke needs to get out more.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! It's always great to hear from fellow fans who appreciate their fantastic music. I agree: they should have been bigger. Cheers!
I wouldn't say the Chameleons are "huge": I suppose it depends on your perspective. Thanks for joining in!
@@JimDriver no they’re not filling the 02 but they have managed to keep going for over forty years. Their hugeness is down to their influence. A lot of bands point to them.
Considering how much music press I consumed in the 80s, I've never heard of Doctor's Children or Fire Next Yime? As other commenters have said, there were so many great acts back then. I would have put Screaming Blue Messiahs in there, they definitely heard a few pub rock bands in their time!
Yes, I agree: Screaming Blue Messiahs (and the Blue Aeroplanes, as we're on the "blue" ones) should have been there. I see another one coming along. Cheers!
The Sound...I think here across the pond they got lost amongst the push...Comsat Angels were similar but they did get some traction...Teardrops Explodes....saw them twice in a Boston club, they were off their heads (at least J Cope was) but it was a great show!...surprised to see them here, really can't comment on the rest because I've never heard of them...and my tastes have changed...great video as always, keep looking forward to them...cheers!
Thanks for the kin d words and for the insights from your neck of the woods. I'll keep trying to make informative, entertaining videos. Who knows, one day… 😄
I believe I may have 'worked with' Doctor's Children / King Buffalo back then. Very good singer and songs. All best to all. W.
Cheers! I appreciate the comment. They were great, weren't they?
Interesting selection. The Sound, Teardrop Explodes and Triffids are all in my collection, but I've never even heard of Doctor's Children! or Fire Next Time! Thanks for giving me something to look out for...
Thanks: my aim was partly to share the music I enjoyed (not so much The Teardrop Explodes, I admit) that should have been big. I might even do another one… 😎
The trouble was that talented up and coming bands were two a penny in the early eighties. I remember the free singles that were given away with Sounds magazine highlighting up and coming bands, those were fantastic: Hothouse Flowers, Throwing Muses, Pixies, Screaming Blue Messiahs, Soup Dragons, Pop Will Eat Itself, Band of Holy Joy, Primitives, Triffids, Voice of the Beehive, Happy Mondays to name a few. Great bands, but most fell by the wayside. I believe Record Mirror did something similar. Just think, there was that much going on in Britain's music scene that it could support four weekly newspapers plus Smash hit magazine.
Yes, there were so many great bands back then. Of course, making it as a Rock star (or even Pop star) was seen as a legitimate way to riches back in those heady pre-internet days. Cheers!
Nice video Jim, incidentally the guy in the white suit is Kenneth Cope from Randall and Hopkirk (deceased), don't know if he is a relation of Julian.
Haha, thanks! I am aware: as Kenneth has recently passed away (hopefully not a ghost), I took the opportunity to make a little joke. 😎😄 Cheers!
@@JimDriver that's the spirit mate hehe.
Another interesting video thanks Jim . I'm sure I've watched all your videos but can't recall if you've ever mentioned The Count Bishops? Did you ever see them play ?
Thanks for the kind words, much appreciated. Yes, pretty sure I included the (Count)_ Bishops in a video, but I can't for the life of me remember which it was. I booked them several times them at the Cricketers and at the 100 Club. Thanks again: cheers!
Great band The Count Bishops ,saw them many times at Kensington pub in west London.
Hi Jim, enjoyable as always. I saw The Teardrop Explodes in Leeds when I lived in Ilkley, and they were great, but I saw Julian Cope solo here in Bristol a few years back and he was abysmal. I also saw him on the street once, all dressed-up as if he was on stage. My three favourite 1980s acts (also friends in the London squatting community) were The Levellers (no, not THAT 'The Levellers'), World Domination Enterprises & The Bambi Slam. I'm off to The Fleece (a pub) this evening to see Jon Spencer (ex The Blues Explosion). Be Seeing you, Peter
Very kind of you to say so, Peter, thanks! Please give my love to the Fleece (is it still owned by the former Blue Aeroplanes chappies?) I was thinking about including them in my next video on a similar subject: they played The Cricketers quite a lot and were another of my very favourite bands.
@@JimDriver Yep - & I'm seeing them there in November.
Enjoy the channel...greetings from Chicago.
Greetings from Ramsgate! Thanks for watching and for joining our little community. 🌻❤
How about Easterhouse? I consider 'Contenders' to be a classic.Their politics might turn some off and I know they imploded, but still, they deserve a mention. I still love Easterhouse!
Many thanks for the suggestion. I'll check them out. Cheers!
Hi Jim. BiGlOvEs mate. Xx
Cheers! I appreciate it, Joe. Right back at you! ❤
ill subscribe naturally, great story. Frank was a part of my life from about 1989 to the day he died for various reasons that arer too long to list. i never met him but he was certainly someone i admired and entered into my consciousness in the best way possible
Thanks for your kind words and for your subscription! It’s incredible to hear how Frank/Chris influenced your life. We'll not see his like again. Cheers!
Wilko never had a dog?
Yes, he did. He once left it tied up outside his local corner shop in Westcliff. It wasn’t long after Irene died, as I recall: it may have been her’s…
Music now is at it's very worst crushed by the deep state new world order parasite controllers who want it so and engineered the shocking collapse of real music.
It’s not great at the moment, is it?! Hopefully, some huge new musical movement will come along and save the world. Cheers!
You have a wonderful history, having lived through the golden age of music, never to return. I feel sorry for kids today.
Yes, I was very fortunate to be in the right place at the right time. I think youngsters today have their own opportunities, and in 50 years or so, this will hopefully be their golden age… 😎
Are we take it you failed to notice Foo Fighters, Green Day, Eagles, AC/DC and others have been touring this year...strikes me you're stuck in the past sweetheart....and yes I saw King Crimson, Free, iron Butterlfy & ELP among others back in the 70s
Not sure Ac/DC (1973), Green Day (1987), The Eagles (1971), and Foo Fighters (1994) come after Oasis, who played their first stadium tour in 1996., but I thank you for your contribution. Incidentally, Eagles are featured in the video. I hope you subscribed… 😎 Cheers!
We still have green day 🥲Great video sir.
Yes we do, though I would gently point out they came about in 1987, way before Oasis were inflicted upon us. Thanks for the kind words and for taking part. Cheers!
If you came here not knowing “The Struts” exist - go check them out and thank me later ;)
My Dad was of a generation of Australians in the 1980s where you would go to your local pub in places like Richmond or East Melbourne to watch an act like INXS, Midnight Oil, Cold Chisel, Hoodoo Gurus, or Paul Kelly for around $10.00 per ticket. According to dad, once booze busses and compulsory breath testing was introduced, it hit the pub rock scene hard.
Thanks for the Australian insights. I think the whole Pub Rock era (no matter where it was) was destined to come to an end. In Oz, I'll bet those factors didn't help. Cheers!
Loving these videos Jim, I keep coming across things that trigger memories. Last night it was an advert for The Pogues, The Boothill Footappersand The Men They Couldn't Hang upstairs at the Clarendon. You had me and Billy bouncing at that. Bit of a connection that night and another one years later. Let me explain. Rogues drummer Andrew Ranken was the singer in The Stickers, the very first band I played with when I came to London. Years later I played with The Men They Couldn't Hang, did a few tours and an album with them. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, Kenny: I never knew that! I never saw or spoke to Andrew after I stopped putting on The Pogues (or rather, when they got too big to play for me!!) I really love that we can all add to the story and try and get the "history" of those days right. Most of what I see written down and on podcasts and videos is (for want of a better word!) "balderdash"! Cheers!