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What if you didn't know any better and the metal roof is already installed over the shingles and likely without a barrier in between? Can there be anything done to fix it other than taking down the metal and getting it redone?

Done right those problems wouldn't have existed either! That roof looks fine except for around the chimney and valleys. My son owns his own roofing company and has been called to inspect and or repair roofs that have been installed by the homeowner. He said he has seen roofs over 30 years ago that are still leak free. He also said that if he does find any problems it is usually from the screws that have loosened over time. He said that if the homeowner would inspect the roof every five years or so and tighten or replace those screws there would never be a leak.

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I've done metal over shingles on 4 of my properties over the last 15 years. Absolutely zero issues. It must be done correctly with perlings and the existing roof needs to be in good condition. You're casting a pretty wide net due to the poor install on this project. I'll be adding metal over shingles on my next property as well once we close on it. That will also outlast any asphalt roof out there.

If you’re comparing products with the public than you should know everything about the ones you’re comparing and not just a shill for Trex.

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I've had mine for about a year now. I am getting ready to start the cleaning process. What do you suggest? Just dust them off and wash them off with a hose / maybe use a floor mop? No other cleaning chemicals?

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Do you notice any difference in scratching from select and enhance? Just wondering being budget minded if I should go with enhanced for preferred colors or select for durability (protection against scratches). If scratch resisting is essentially the same, then decision is easy.

The Tru North composite has the holes through it in which the water can easily sit in after being submerged in a bucket of water. The holes are meant to keep the boards cooler in hot conditions than solid composites which hold more heat. Realistically, any deck that’s submerged in water is likely in a severe flood and your deck will be the last thing on your mind. The only thing that should concern anyone using the Tru North composite is to make sure your deck frame is built correctly and as rigid as possible to support the heavier weight of their product.

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Trex is just ground up pallets and plastic bags, only reason anyone uses it is because they feed them leads from the marketing engine they have. Good luck 👍

do you think that it may have leaked due to the fact that the fasteners were installed in the low spots? That's the big mistake. Guaranteed leakage. You have to put the screws in the high spots.

The reason for the rice hauls is its absorbs less water. Also you should be aware that all composite decking is from recycled materials. The lowest quality plastic comes from plastic bottles and plastic bags. TruNorth hails from a plastic company that has been in business for almost 50 years. These boards are the highest quality boards on the market.

It’s because the metal was installed directly on top of the shingles and it needs to have a 2 x 4 or a one by four installed on top of the shingles for the metal to be screwed onto if you do not the shingles will work like a sandpaper on metal and it will wear through and you do not put the screws into plywood or OSB. They will work loose.

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Good advice my guy! I hate seeing metal over shingles just lazy business practices.

Thank you. I almost made this mistake having a guy install metal over my old roof. When I brought up the facts you presented in this video you’d think I was insulting him. I have leaks currently from hail damage and think it’s highly probable that we have deck boards that are rotten….. the roofer said that makes no difference when putting metal over the top of it. I asked about securing new material and screwing into rotten wood…..he danced around that question. I’m opting for a new shingle roof so that I know the deck is properly inspected….. and I went with a different reputable company.

Sounds like it wasn't even half installed right so not all the metal over shingle fault. You don't just buy panels together then caulk between them. There is massive installer error here.

Lol this guy would have a hard time selling in my area. He's literally replacing a premium roof product with asphalt shingles. He's replacing an ok.roof with one that will need to be replaced after the first 1.5" hail. Yeah a poor insatll a poor install.but an asphalt shingles is literally the most fragile.roofing product yiu could put on a roof. 😅 he probably doesn't even know this.

Because the decking samples are not the same size. The larger samples will have more surface to absorb compared to the smaller samples

I just installed a standing seam over shingles. I inspected the osb sheathing from the attic with a flashlight and it looked good. We used 1-1/2" pan screws and they were grabbing strong. I think it will be a good roof. I'll give an update in 30 years.

How come you are only talking about Timbertech and Trex without comparing with TrueNorth? You are biased. I cannot rely on your review.

Does that mean you do not install metal roofs over purlins as a best practice?

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Great explanation of differences. Thank you!

We have big overhangs and high winds, so I’m kinda glad we got our metal roof installed on top of our existing asphalt shingles. Extra sound deadening and extra weight are kinda nice. The roofing company did install purlings first then metal.

Of course it’s going to go wrong screwing onto shingles. Install purlins first and it will be fine.

The mistake was going directly on shingles. You must first frame-in horizontal furring that structural attaches to the rafters, then the decking issue becomes obsolete, because your metal is fastened to the purlins, not the decking. This also creates a breathable air gap, behind the Metal panel, which helps reduce condensation and keep your roof deck/attic cooler, because the reflectivity of Metal is greatly reduced when fastened directly to the deck, without an air gap. Certainly a poor excuse of an install here.

I had a contractor tell me that samething. Wanted to leave my shingles on and then charger 14k to install. I told that man to get out my yard. 😂

No. Just don’t do it. Tear-off, Do it right the 1st. time or don’t do it at all. Why isn’t the previous roofer being held negligent & therefore paying for the replacement?, is that at all a possibility?

Really looks like the roof was in bad shape from the start and not installed properly as you pointed out along the side wall. I wouldnt put all blame on the steel or shingles. I feel both ppl were crappy installers. Ive installed steel over shingles and have had no issues but the roof was also in good shape if the roof is crap i always tell owner we have to rip off shingles and start fron scratch.

Metal roofing is designed to be fixed through the ridges not in the valleys .

Some years ago, I did exactly what you're saying not to do. However, I did not put the metal directly on the shingles. First, I installed horizontal 2X4 purlins attached down to the decking through the shingles, then spaced four feet apart, i inserted a 1" piece of foil faced styrofoam sheeting between each of the purlins. then attached the metal with 2 3/8" inch zinc SDST screws with rubber washers. Due to the steep pitch of the roof, no water penetration has ever been noticed. I was using 24g galvalume R-panels. It appears as if this roof was installed directly on the shingles, which, I agree, doesn't sound like a good idea. Oh, and the roof I covered was in good shape, no leaks known anyplace on the entire roof. Thanks. New Sub. :)

Did they install purlins first or right on top of the old shingles?

Roofing company did this to me. We had to get a new roof per our home insurance because of age in Florida. The metal option was cheaper. I asked if they were gonna rip all the shingles off for that price and he said yeah. The day they showed up i gave them about an hour and they had half the metal already on over the shingles. 🤦🏻‍♂️ i made the call to their boss and it was a $3,000 upcharge to remove the shingles. I wish they were more clear upfront, because im getting drywall cracks in my ceiling all around the house. Thats alot of freaking weight up there being an 1800 sqft house

Ur reviewing the sample boxes ? What a true indicator of product performance. Useless.

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