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Edit: The interaction is currently bugged. Minion Pact (the damaging ability I was intending to use to proc instability is targeting the totems and not the minions!) Will pivot and just to a totem build until/if it's fixed I suppose.

sound is too low mate :(

playing the build right now, its pretty decent, mana is an issue but i just crafted -mana cost on amu and ring and its fine. Would love to see further upgrades to this setup if you have the time, thanks for the build :).

Your trauma stacks is not limited to any number and hence counts the maximum stacks on POB which is unattainable. Your dps calculates as having the 5th hit always and needs Average calculation by putting 76% less damage. Also your count on Molten Strike of the Zenith is way off (count: 8) as you don't have returning projectiles, all 8 projectiles cannot hit all the time without returning proj support.

I'm the original commenter about the trauma stacks and the projectiles. I did comment on the previous video but ill post my comment here as well: A bit of an update for the people interested. Turns out I WAS WRONG. I have spoken to Connor and other content creators and it turns out Trauma does scale the projectiles as well as it is a flat phys added to the skill itself. Connor advised me that with trauma, this particular version of the build can have 60% more damage than his version. I think it was more likely what @Aequus said, he was more focused on the end game version of the build and this one was more like a stepping stone. Another thing that I relised is that his multi-mirror version does not use phys on weapons because of the interaction with original sin. As original sin only cares about ele damage, if you were to scale phys you would need to convert it to elemental and then original sin would convert it to chaos, which is just incredibly inefficient compared to just scaling ele damage that original sin converts to chaos.

Astramentis also has a 3-piece div card. It's on some pretty awful maps, but that's something we can change with scrying so it should be more SSF friendly this league.

Edit: The Speed PoB doesn't have enough accuracy without war banner stacked and placed to proc Precise Technique. See the bottom of my long ass reply under zihaojia2117's post for solutions, as well as my PoB and his PoB for comparisons with absolutely 0 conditional buffs except for maybe the Haste tech since I don't know how conditional the buff is. Looking at your "SPEED" PoB for my own use, I would drop the "Utmost Swiftness" mastery wheel and go for "Divine Fury" and take the "inverse Monster Resistance" mastery. This also gives you an extra skill point to put into something else, which you could use on the life mastery to make 15% of mana costs as life, because I still think the mana cost might be weird. But if it's not an issue you can just dump a point into the 6% life node next to "Devotion" until you get more points to grab something bigger. OR help "Alira" instead of "Oak" for the resistances, drop the "Cloth and Chain" 2 pointer, and then grab a rage wheel using those 2 points + the point freed by dropping "Utmost Swiftness". "Battle Trance" would give you 2 rage on melee hit + 10 max rage for 3 points, and I would then switch out "Rage Support" on "Molten Strike" for "Fire Penetration" support for an extra ~25 DPS. Or if you can't maintain max rage with only the "Battle Trance" node, you can use the 3 points + drop "Beef" and use the 4 points for the "Veteran's Wrath" wheel which still gives 3 rage on hit total + either 20% slower rage loss or +6 max rage. This also means that as soon as you hit get an extra skill point either for leveling up, dropping a node somewhere, OR even switching off Alira if you have the regrets, you can take the "Nearby enemies are Intimated while you have Rage" mastery on the rage wheel and drop "Belt of the Deceiver" for a rare belt with fat life/Resistances. You might also want to lifetap Snipers Mark since it takes 64 out of your 71 mana to proc it, which might be an issue or it might not because of the instant mana leech from the balls. If you need to do this I would drop the rage support from Leap Slam since its only ~6% more attack speed for Leap Slam, which seems negligible, and with the rage wheel would still generate rage on hit. Sorry for the wall of text, I got excited and kept getting ideas looking over your PoB to change it to fit my needs as a SC Trade player looking to league start it. These changes solidified my choice to league start this build since it seems good enough to run through the atlas quickly enough to make money to buy gear for Connor's more expensive versions.

check ur banner condition. i wont say more ur basing ur whole thing on a conditional buff.

Thanks for the reviews. New melee player so your comments offer good insight into pros and cons on diff nodes.

Did you actually check that trauma works on the projectile part of the dmg? Else it would brick. As far as I remember this part is most unclear here.

First, really appreciate all these discussions and new ideas. Helped a lot to make this build better. Here is my understanding of the pros and cons, please correct me if I am wrong: Conner: pros: best on-surface numbers. cons: unreliable rage resource (could be solved), more expensive items. Clearly, he is not a very good build creator for starter builds... Nightwing: pros: slightly more accessible version of Conner's (actually I don't agree with removing Iron Fortress from his build, that's a huge DPS loss, though that item could be a few divs). More consistent performance. cons: lowest numbers (still enough for most contents). Aequus: pros: most accessible build (which is the reason why you proposed this one). cons: rely on trauma stack. And relatively low attack speed (not a big deal for bossing but kinda clunky for mapping) I still think all of you guys provided valuable information on this skill. I will definitely try yours first since it is the cheapest version, then move to Nightwing or Conner's later. I know you may not be able to play but truly looking forward to some updates to this build later.

If we start nickpicking T2 or what ever uniques, molten strike of zenith is not in the shop so... it's not a league starter anyway . Dunno why u even flexing with one atnother to be honest. It's not like people will build this to play early game for 2 weeks, connors build is mostly for not mortal players and for endgame so ... i guess he said it himself that he don;t make leveling guides or builds in his latest video

Imma apply that trauma to your balls real quick if you dont stop breathing into the mic

I played Trauma Molten Strike in ToTA with Brightbeak and since my Projectiles dealt non-zero damage I'm gonna go on a limb and say Trauma does apply to the balls

Need to check if trauma applies to the balls. 😂

Good work, I'm personally staying away from Trauma/Boneshatter because of new 3.25 rare monster modifier that gives you the crushed debuff. Feel like thats gonna make our trauma hurt us a lot more when we encounter it :/

So, i commented on your original post, mentioning things i found were wrong with the build and it started a 30-40 long comment chain of people asking for my PoB about the Zenith build. Later this comment and the whole chain was removed and i assumed you did it. Which appearently is wrong, i aplogize if this was not the case. Anyway the mana issues i mentioned were related to ice golem not being able to be cast with the unreserved mana you had, molten strike mana is fine. Second, trauma is just a huge pad especially with more duration nodes/gem. it's impossible to sustain, even with high movement speed. you will on average be way under the maximum sustainable truma, and trauma causes for a gigantic amount of dps inflation. Attack rate is going to make this build feel awful in terms of clearing You already mentioned the quality config in the video so that was fine. no returning projectiles but having 8 proj hits on in skill gems config as you adressed yourself is a huge inflation aswell. The reality is this: this build is ''very very weak'' day 2/early game. i found this out myself making a PoB of my own. However, people see anything that is not super tanky and below 10m dps as weak, but the reality is, a 2.5m non-inflated build is better than any 10m dps build that relies on tons of conditions to get there. pobb.in/GbkMvfi-OPhO This is what i believe to be an actual real version of this build. 0 padding, a no cluster tree, a good rage buildup to justify it actually being up. An attack rate decent enough to make the build feel fine. Sand stance, using lifetap to be 100% sure of mana cost early on. I was going to make a video, but i feel everyone in the comment chain from last video will be watching this, so feel free to discuss it if you think it's worth discussing. Once again, i apologize for assuming you removed the comments, i couldn't think of anything else why it would've been removed otherwise. all my comments were in good faith and not with a purpose of flaming. Nor were any other people in the comment train. They just want the best build to start this with. I'm ready for people being like ''lol only 2.75m dps'', but to keep attack rate good enough for clear to not feel bad. and not using any inflation but true and honest numbers, this is what you're league starting with. And that's just perfectly fine to league start with as this build ramps up insanely once you get some currency in. Anyone who thinks you can get a 10M dps day 2 zenith league starter is in for a surprise. Like i also mentioned. i'm not a build creator either, there might be oversights from my end, and i encourage everyone to name them if you see them. I just want the best start i can get with this build, and i'll take any criticism to make it better. Best of luck with the launch all!

So, I just stumbled across your first video and now about this and I think your PoB looks absolutely fine. People screaming about "low ehp" really expect like 50mio dps and 200k ehp on day 1 gear, you can literally never please them. anyway, most importantly: Are you looking into verifying that the trauma works on the balls? Like, since this would brick the build thats the biggest question mark at this point. I have no clue how one would test this so we prob. kinda need your help on this :D Also, this is what ChatGPT wrote about this: In "Path of Exile," Trauma is a unique mechanic that affects melee attacks. Specifically, Trauma is a debuff that stacks on the player each time they use a melee attack skill, causing them to take increased physical damage over time with each stack. Molten Strike, including the Molten Strike of the Zenith variant, is a melee attack skill that also generates projectiles upon hitting an enemy. The key point here is understanding how Trauma interacts with the different aspects of Molten Strike: Melee Hit: The initial melee hit from Molten Strike will apply Trauma stacks to the player, as it is a melee attack. Projectiles: The projectiles generated by Molten Strike are secondary effects and do not count as melee attacks. Therefore, they do not apply additional Trauma stacks to the player. In summary, Trauma stacks will apply to the player when they perform the melee hit of Molten Strike, but not for the projectile impacts.

The old comment was deleted somehow because all of the replies were removed as well, I dont know if it got flagged or what

What kind of content would you suggest for this build? Im not a delver and clearspeed is looking very lack luster (finishing atlas and getting challanges done seems tough).

So some good info here on some swaps that could really help in the early game. I was planning on running this build, I think some of these changes give it a much smoother transition into midgame to really start farming currency. I would just give you 2 bits of feedback regarding your video. 1. Your microphone is very sensitive and is really picking up your breathes in. 2. Coming from a public speaking background I would just try to reduce the amount of "um"s you have. I didn't count but you are probably averaging 4-8 "um"s per minute if I had to guess. This is just due to you most likely doing this in 1 take kind of off of the dome but if you did a small amount of planning and took some notes your video quality would improve quite a bit.

Ty! And I hope you will have some time left to play it.

It will take 12 seconds to ramp up to full dps (starting at only 5% of DPS with no trauma stacks). Movement speed will keep downtime in between packs lower - but it won't help with boss phases.

Thx man. Nicely done!

looks great. looking forward to gameplay vids

"i like speed" while having 3.5 aps on zenith 💀putting aside all the other flaws mentioned already this will make it feel horrible to play

Hmm when I import the PoB it seems like I won't have enough mana to use my abilities. Have I forgotten to enable something?

that attack speed is not enough for zenith

Apologies if i got this wrong, but isn't trauma scaling only the hit of molten strike, and not the projectiles ? The main damage of this skill and molten trike as well is the actual projectiles, not the initial hit of it. Edit: To make my point clearer. We are not scaling the MELEE bit of the skill, we are scaling the Projectiles i.e. attack and projectile tag of the gem. That's why in his multi-mirror versions he is not using a high physical damage weapon. At least that was my read on it. Please do correct me if I got all this wrong.

leveling vid guide will be perfect. and how will you upgrade build after you get more currency. to end game/deep delv?! tnx

Have you played this? You attack speed is terrible, it's going to feel clunky as hell. Drop all the points next to templar, 1 endurance charge isn't that big. Get the dex wheel in the bottom right. With Astramentis you can get to 400+ dex easily. That is a good amount of attack speed with jugg accuracy scaling as well as pillar. Then grab magebane for a huge jumpstart to suppress cap. But most importantly, you need attack speed. Currently you get 1 big attack every 1.5 seconds... That is worse than slam builds of old. It's going to feel TERRIBLE.

Yeah i saw his video and looked into him because it was sussy. I found some concerning things based on a quick search. He openly admits to getting a lot of that mirror gear from followers. He seem to really overhype his performance while hiding or flat out lying about his gear/cost/weaknesses. Seems a little desperate for attention, which always sets off warning bells.

It was my understanding that the rage would be coming from the change to lethal pride "added Physical Damage taken as Fire Damage to Notables now instead give 1 Rage on Melee Hit." But I could be mistaken, and either way it's not like you can just grab one of those in the first day or 2 anyway

His build is a stepping stone till he gets Alberons boots. How can you scale your build further? How annoying is the haste aura management?

He sayed that if the rage uptime is not optimal with the rage support he will take 1-2 rage points near the strenght wheal on the tree, so it will be easy to keep it most of the time

great review, conner's stuff is cool but he usually *highly* oversells his builds' performance at the budget or early level.

how does your version compare in tankyness to conors? does anyone have a timestamp if he talks about this?

Since we talking about padding Golems are just there to get you killed, and you don't even have enough mana for a CWDT golem (130). Been a few years since I've even seen someone seriously put it in a PoB outside of necro/golem builds. 8x proj hitting with MS is hilarious. Maybe a leftover from connor's PoB, but like... have you ever even played MS? With this setup you're hitting 1/3rd of your projectiles, so ~3 projectles on zenith proc, and 1 when it doesn't. 5x125k from melee + 4x165k normal balls + 3x2M zenith balls = ~7M dmg over 5 attacks / 3.43aspd ==> ~10M dps And realistically you'll have maybe 1/2-2/3 of your max trauma, so multiply your dmg with that as well. -Just noticed War banner gives ~90% more dmg for some reason, so if you replace that with the 24% more melee phys, it's another 35% less dmg.- Was likely PT, but wasn't red-lighted. Soo... we sitting at ~6.5M dps under a banner with 2/3 max trauma stacks. This still assumes max rage and berserk, another lul. But the biggest cope is duration stacking Trauma, and having 0 fucking recovery outside of leech. Good luck with that. Maybe if you get your ES to a few hundreds with crystal belt and stuff, but like this, can only laugh.

wow nice thanks for this

Ty for pob and effort, tbh connors never like to make and he typicaly don't do leveling guides or cheap builds :D and that budget is like 2-4 days into the league, skilled players can do it others doubt. Anyway, ty for the build would like to know how to pick passives along the way which are more important early than others

The guardian setup sucks. Keeps turning off often.

Why not ethernal blessing?

This is amazing mid point for leaguestart before you can start investing more currency

how do you sustain mana with this, lifetap?

Lost like half your max hit swaping from conner's

hi, is anyone able to explain how the herald of purity, guardians blessing, and haste will work? thank you

Thank you very much. I really wanna play it

Great video, we need a levelong pob😢

Hi, it is an excellent video, do you have any video with the progress? or any video on how to level it efficiently?

Oh yay, you're back!