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You mean they drop leaflets on targets asking people to evacuate a few days before attacking?

They didn't fleshed out enough why these warriors to agree with Ezra plans or they sticking with Jayden decision. Yuichi motivation is just master and warrior relationship, while others like Naomi isn't really has a strong one than just got undermined by her former superior.

Wolfs Dragoons

Where did they say that the Kell Hounds are related to the clans?

@@Kref3 Right under the video! " However, the Draconis Combine, led by Coordinator Takashi Kurita and supported by the Kell Hounds and Wolf's Dragoons (mercenary forces with Clan backgrounds), mounted a formidable defense." Not in the game.

@@petrameyer1121 - I think that was just poorly written and meant only to apply to the Dragoons, "...supported by Wolf's Dragoons (mercenary forces with Clan backgrounds) and the Kell Hounds..." would've been clearer. But, that's the writer in me kicking in :D

They are Smoke Jaguar, they all have the Quirk Perpetual Snarl.

that I can kind of understand it's comstar being comstar so they say the name of there military leader to make the clans more comfy that sounds like something they'd do

lol I watched that over...even out of it in the deep coreward for a quarter millennia, the Clans know the score with Comstar.

FACTS

Comstar: PAY YOUR BILLS FUCKO

Or as we called them in my WMO guild, the Smoke Jack@sses. We should have seen a bit of retcon coming when PGI posted those interviews and someone was like "I don't necessarily agree with the characterization of Clan Smoke Jaguar as villains." That was a lot like saying "I don't agree with FASA, or any other writers who came before me."

I don't feel this is a retcon so much as us seeing the Jaguars through a "what if" propaganda filter. It's how the Jaguars would see themselves, and definitely not how they really acted. Propaganda was huge even for the clans, and Smoke Jaguar were one of the most hypocritical of all.

@@THEGRUMPTRUCK Yeah they were generally a lot more aggressive and belligerent in the books....but considering the game is set from their perspective it would be understandably difficult to make the characters relatable to the player....especially if the player hadn't read the books, which came out decades ago by now...

@@Jinmarui I feel like this is the hand of the devs trying to make them more palatable cause no the smoke jaguars treat everyone like this the guy who ordered this was merely busted down to star colonel and that was probably because there was political backlash meanline mercanies 2 and 4 let's you be a total psycho and it works cause your there and it's done matter of fact

They weren't entirely without decency, but ironically that's what truly brought about their downfall - it was precisely because of one of their own couldn't stand the atrocities their Clan was committing that the Inner Sphere was able to mosey on over to Huntress and kick the Jaguars' teeth in.

So Dieter Osis did challenge Perez in lore, and won. That said, yeah you are correct on the majority. This game portrays Smoke Jaguar a little too positively imo. Jade Falcon would have been better, and who knows, we could have had Nicolai Malthus instead along with running battles against the 1st Somerset.

Yep, there were no repurcussions. IIRC in the books the Smoke Jaguars were seeing the citizens as combatants, as they broke the rules of Zellbrigen and dishonorably attacked the warrior caste, despite a truce. The Clans never really heard of the Ares Convention. Ultimately the Edo incident lead to the Great Houses realizing the extent of the threat by the Clans, the new Star League and finally the end of Clan Smoke Jaguar.

I think what the game was try to do was show Smoke Jaguars from the perspective of Jayden and his sibko they start idealistic and believing that Smoke Jaguar is a great and honorable clan but as the story goes on they see more of the true Smoke Jaguar and try to rationalize it or blame it on individuals like Perez but in the end Smoke Jaguars are bullies who believe themselves superior than others. I do think that the game could’ve had more interaction with the other clans so we could see how they conduct themselves compared to the Smoke Jaguars.

The clans, collectively, knew about the Ares Convention because it was a 25th century agreement. That doesn't mean their clone children learned about the Ares Convention in history class. Bombarding Edo was still not okay, by mostclan standards. There were _finally_ some repercussions when Operation Bulldog started. As I recall, there was a point when Clan Smoke Jaguar asked the other clans for help, and the answer amounted to "So much nope". I see parallels with WWII, the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, and the eventual destruction of Warsaw. The nazis didn't care what it took for their army to end the uprising. The real consequence was all the forces tied up fighting urban guerillas, when the German forces on the front lines really wanted some help. Whoever else called CSJ "space nazis" might not have been thinking of that, but it's one more reason for the Space Nazis nickname to stick.

@@magosryzak7477 also we could get Turkeys as that was the totem mech of clan shit pigeon

Total retcon, to appease. They changed the narrative. Originally, in the books, this was sanctioned by the Smoke Jaguar Keshek. The Jaguars were the "absolute bad guys". The destruction of Edo, made the Great Houses realize, that they face an enemy that does not care about the Ares Convention, as they never signed it. From a Clanner perspective, the Citizens of Edo were breaking every rule of honorable combat and became combatants... Ultimately the actions taken lead to the unification of the Houses under the new Star League and ultimately to the "Trial of Extinction" against the Smoke Jaguars, though.

@@shagrat47This is exactly what happens in the lore, and Perez was disgraced and lost a Trial of Position over it. Plus, the Great Houses themselves stopped caring about the Ares Conventions and renounced it ever since the First Succession War anyway.

And thank god for it

@@robgraham5697 They aren't anymore. Look up the Fidelis

Unfortunately... enough of them lived that they now exist again in the 32nd century. Thanks Wolf Empire

@@fanusobscurus God fucking damnit

@@fanusobscurus The Fidelis is a more noble breed of Smoke Jaguar. Read Forever Faithful

The clans in general are just trash.

Because these guys are descended from a crazy Scottish black ops units that were meant to protect the Cameron line, They failed that and now the galaxy has to deal with them still venting their frustration out on other people. (Sidenote this is a very simplified Explanation of Smoke Jaguar, They are all supreme assholes)

Reminder that their Education is worse than royals. A Merc would have a better chance at surviving in a Mech than some upsnot baron from the inner sphere.

The Watch was founded by Kerensky to spy on the Not Named Clan (well the organisation that became the Watch), it became Intelser in 2980, then 'The Watch' just prior to the invasion.

The watch was founded by Nicholas Kerensky

@@specter1893 Kinda, but they were useless. IS intelligence agencies are vastly superior at their job. Sarna: _While some Clans, most notably the Wolves and Jade Falcons, took steps to upgrade their intelligence-gathering capabilities, the Watch as a whole would remain ineffective during the invasion and the years following the Truce of Tukayyid. The organization's greatest success came following the election of Kael Pershaw of Clan Jade Falcon to the position of Loremaster of the Clans, when in 3054 the Watch succeeded in a campaign of misinformation directed at ComStar's ROM, causing them to mistake the location and allegiance of many Clan units._

A version of the Watch was first founded by Nicholas Kerensky to spy on Clan Wolverine and originally answered only to the ilKhan. The progenitor of the modern Clan Watch, Intelser, was formed in 2980 by order of the Grand Council as a means of gathering intelligence on the state of the Inner Sphere. In the tabletop game and books, we learn that The Watch of the 2980, each Clan had made a similar version, but the mentality of each Clan also effected The Watch and their Intelligence gathering techniques. Many clans saw The Watch as an inferior force, was given little respect, and very little backup or equipment or personnel in or order to complete their tasks or assignments, even after ilKhan Showers had instructed the rest of the Clans to create such a force after the Inner Sphere Invasion had begun. The only two Clans that took Intelligence gathering seriously was Wolf Clan, and the Jade Falcon, although the Jade Falcon didn't really get serious about proper training and upkeep of their version until after the Battle of Twycross. In that battle the majority of Jade Falcon forces were decimated in a narrow valley corridor, lined with explosive charges to bury the mechs. This fact was due to very little to no knowledge of the surrounding area, poor scouting of the pass the Jade Falcon units were traversing, no knowledge of enemy strength, and the battle also occurred during a sandstorm that made visibility nearly impossible. After that, many Clans both within the Inner Sphere invasion and at the Pentagon worlds began to understand that they needed to update their Intelligence services or risk a similar fate in the future.

The Watch was founded to hunt for the Wolverines. It took it a while after the Invasion to be much good at Inner Sphere intrigue.

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