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Lumix XLR2 vs XLR1 | Should you upgrade?
Now that Panasonic is adding support for the DMW-XLR2 adapter to some of its other cameras besides the Lumix GH7, does it make sense to upgrade if you already have an XLR1?
Preamp noise, 3.5mm input jack, mic holder, and physical size differences -- I compare the XLR2 against the original XLR1 and come away with 2 cases where upgrading makes sense.
References:
Julian Krause
You are WRONG about preamp noise!!! - (condenser vs dynamic mic preamp myth)
th-cam.com/video/frah8eBvUbU/w-d-xo.html
Daniel Patrick who asked a question on my first XLR2 video that prompted this comparison video
www.youtube.com/@xdanielpatrick
My previous video on the XLR2 adapter
th-cam.com/video/A-8g9gGxDhs/w-d-xo.html
CONTENTS
00:00 // Now more cameras can use the XLR2 adapter
01:00 // Are the XLR2 preamps better?
04:29 // 3.5mm TRS jack as Input #3
05:48 // Microphone holder
06:12 // XLR1 vs XLR2 size comparison
07:02 // Conclusion - Is it worth buying the XLR2?
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Gear That I Use:
・DMW-XLR2 adapter amzn.to/4eaa2s2
・LUMIX GH7 amzn.to/4cKXFBu
・LUMIX S5IIX amzn.to/4dMsOWy
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Disclaimers:
This is not a sponsored video. I bought all of the equipment with my own money.
No paid promotion.
#Panasonic #Lumix #xlr2
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  • @VeroLaos_lahausse
    @VeroLaos_lahausse 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    THANK YOU! I am using a GH6 & a G9 M2 ...I guess that these items are compatible for both? would the XLR 2 make a greater difference ? since I am primarily using it for a boom mic while filming - thank you for your advise

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for stopping by and posting this question! If you are mainly using it for a boom mic, I presume you're using a condenser mic that is either a shotgun mic or a small diaphragm condenser mic? If so, I don't think the XLR2 will provide any benefit for your use with the GH6 or G9m2. To get any benefit from the XLR2 and those mics, I think you would need to use a GH7 and record in 32-bit float which would give you a safety margin for adjusting the audio later during editing. But from my testing, I don't think it would necessarily give you *cleaner* audio due to the newer preamps. I hope this helps!

    • @VeroLaos_lahausse
      @VeroLaos_lahausse 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HaveCameraNowWhat thanks for taking the time to respond - I will go for a refurbished XLR1 which is also cheaper than the XLR2 - I am also using the Hollyland Lark 150 which needs to be connected in the jack of the camera - it is great that the XLR1 is directly connected via the shoe mount. By interest, is there any other worthy similar XLR option compatible with the Lumix? ...Can the Tascam FR-AV2 work as well ? can it connect to Lumix camera via shoe mount Thx!

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If you don't plan to buy a GH7, then I think the XLR1 is perfectly fine right now. The XLR2 would be future proofing your purchase, since future Lumix cameras will probably be designed to take advantage of its 32-bit float feature. For other options, I don't think there is anything that directly work with Lumix cameras. You would end up with an external recorder and a separate audio file that you need to synchronize in your editing software. Professional productions usually do it this way, but as a solo shooter/editor I like the convenience of having a decent quality audio signal recorded into the video file directly. By the way, how do you like the Hollyland Lark 150? I have a pair of Rode lavalier mics that I like the sound of, but I can't use them with my first gen DJI wireless mics because it gets terrible interference. I've been thinking about getting a different wireless system and hoping I can use the Rode lavaliers, but I'm still looking at options.

    • @VeroLaos_lahausse
      @VeroLaos_lahausse 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HaveCameraNowWhat thanks a lot...I get your point since I already owe a zoomh5 (to bulky to fit on rig) it makes more sense to get the XLR1...but with future camera upgrade the 32bit will certainly become the norm. I am getting fairly good audio with the HollyLand L150..yet to see if there are interferences with shotgun mic ...I am planning on getting a Sennheiser MKE 600 unless I find something with quality cost effective....thx!

  • @Superjeanmarc
    @Superjeanmarc 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The camera being locked on “recorded audio,” when in 32 bit float, is almost making it unusable... I shoot a hosted TV show on this camera, and having this delay when monitoring sound is just a no-go... This video has been posted in August.. if anyone has found a solution for this, please advice... I really wonder if that is fixable via firmware .. Thanks for the great review.

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi. Thanks for the comment. I haven't come across anything regarding this since posting my video. I've been using 32-bit float while being stuck on "recorded audio" and find it a bit annoying, but I guess it's one of the trade offs we need to make right now. If Panasonic could enable realtime audio via a firmware update, I'd be very happy!

  • @MattMesserPics
    @MattMesserPics 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great stuff, thanks! Subscribed!

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for stopping by and taking the time to comment. I appreciate it!

  • @MattMesserPics
    @MattMesserPics 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very helpful, thanks for all that effort and the professional analysis!

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for the comment! I'm glad if this can help anyone 🙂

  • @billhouston1297
    @billhouston1297 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    FYI, on the GH7, 32 bit float is limited to two channels at 96kHz, or 4 channels at 48kHz. If you want to record 4 channels of 24 bit 96kHz, you have to use " XLR plus Camera" mode and use the XLR inputs for 2 channels and the other two channels of external mic/line inputs must be plugged into the unbalanced 1/8" input on the camera (not the 1/8 input on the XLR module).

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for posting that. Yes, if you use 96kHz then there are some caveats that you pointed out.

  • @nerdy3740
    @nerdy3740 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ich verstehe nicht was mir dieses teil das XLR2 für Vorteile biete zum Beispiel für die Lumix s5II X ...

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hallo. Danke für die Frage. Diese Antwort wurde mit einem Online-Übersetzer übersetzt. Auf der S5IIX, ist der einzige Vorteil, wenn Sie dynamische Mikrofone verwenden und wollen etwas leiser Vorverstärker.

  • @Slipsch
    @Slipsch 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    XLR2 vs Zoom F3 vs Tascam FRAV2

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That could be an interesting comparison.

    • @BootStrapTurnerVideography
      @BootStrapTurnerVideography 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have the XLR1 and the Tascam FR-AV2. I'm putting my XLR1 up for sale at some point. I did see a comparison of the Zoom F3 and the Tascam FR-AV2, the Tascam had much better noise floor compared to the F3 with a resistor connected to the inputs. Plus the time code features are significant bonus.

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If you're an audio pro and need the quietest recordings you can get, then the XLR1 or XLR2 probably don't quite cut it. Good luck with whatever you end up choosing!

    • @VeroLaos_lahausse
      @VeroLaos_lahausse 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@BootStrapTurnerVideography I am about to get a XLR1.. is the Tascam FR-AV2 better ? thx

    • @BootStrapTurnerVideography
      @BootStrapTurnerVideography วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@VeroLaos_lahausse Depending on your use case. In my situation, it's much better as it's 32-bit float audio with Pre-amps much better than the Zoom F3 and provides timecode. To get the 32-bit float audio, you will download a separate audio file you then sync in post based on the timecode (easy in modern editors).

  • @Norain1992
    @Norain1992 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the review! I hope they will add support for older cams like S1/S5/S1H

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I hope they will do that too... but somewhat uncertain at this point. For the S5, they released a new firmware this month, but it didn't get support for the XLR2 adapter and the S5 is newer than the S1 series. Hopefully new S1 series cameras are just around the corner, and will definitely have support for the XLR2... hopefully with 32-bit float.

    • @cornellouis
      @cornellouis 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HaveCameraNowWhat Based on a livesteam from Lumix I saw the other day, Sean from Lumix mention the S5iix didn't have the hardware necessary for 32bit float. I'd imagine they would be able to add support for S1 and S5 for 24bit but not 32.

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for that info. Yes, that's what I figured: If they could have added 32-bit float, they probably would have (and many users would have been rejoicing!)... so there must be a hardware reason it can't be done with older cameras. Compatibility, yes, but without 32-bit float. Anyway, I'm pretty sure newer high end cameras, including upcoming S series full frame cameras, will have 32-bit float.

  • @xdanielpatrick
    @xdanielpatrick 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent video! Thank you for your test. Very interesting and glad to see that in your results it does appear the XLR2 adapter is a bit cleaner. I am considering picking one up at some point but since I have a SD Mixpre, Zoom F3 and the XLR1 adapter… I will hold off for now. Also, subscribed!

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for your previous question, and I'm glad that I was able to provide an answer here. Thanks also for subscribing. I appreciate it! 😄 Sounds like you already have some good audio equipment. I'm sure the Mixpre will be better than anything Panasonic puts out. If anything, it's the little bit of convenience of having 32-bit float baked into the video file rather than having to sync it in post.

  • @xdanielpatrick
    @xdanielpatrick 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video. Since the S5II just got the firmware update to be able to use this new adapter (despite no 32 bit float) I am just curious if the preamps were improved and are cleaner from the XLR1 adapter? It’s okay for condensers but could never plug a Shure SM7B (or any dynamic mic) into the original adapter and expect clean results without a preamp attached. Thanks!!

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi. Thanks for stopping by. And great question! To be honest, I haven't done a direct comparison between the XLR1 and XLR2, but that could be a great comparison to do. I only have one dynamic mic. It's an old Heil Sound mic that I originally bought to use with an old Zoom H4n, but that was just too noisy to be usable. I should try it with the XLR1 and XLR2 adapters to see if there are any improvements with the new one.

    • @xdanielpatrick
      @xdanielpatrick 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HaveCameraNowWhat definitely would be interested in your testing. I think for most users (unless you have a GH7) there probably isn’t much of an upgrade between the XLR1 and the XLR2 adapter except for the 3.5mm jack. Unless of course the preamps are much cleaner than the original and can supply enough gain for dynamic mics with very little noise. I would say then it’s probably worth it even without 32 bit float.

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Daniel. Thanks again for the great question. I wanted to give you an answer, so I did some tests and you can find the results in this new video: th-cam.com/video/RC6qtl_sqQY/w-d-xo.html I hope this helps!

  • @ekolbatx
    @ekolbatx 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great review and insight! Very helpful for me as I consider upgrading from the GH5 :)

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for stopping by and taking the time to comment! After using the GH7 for a couple months now, I'm glad I upgraded. Not having to worry about AF means I can leave the camera alone to let it do its thing. And 32-bit float audio has saved me on a few occasions. Glad I upgraded and hope you like it too 😄

  • @themoonshell-F4LFJ
    @themoonshell-F4LFJ หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, I bought the GH5 since it's release, I loved it, despite I add to use manual focus only.I bought the GH6 at its release as well, its a great camera. This time I was disapointed as Panasonic kept the same autofocus system. But I kept it along with the GH5 as I liked the ProRes codec and the images out of the camera. Soon I'll get the GH7 for the autofocus and the 32bits audio, this time I'll be able to shoot cars on race tracks without an external 32 bits audio recorder, I'm excited about it. I think I'll keep the GH5 & GH6. I hope Panasonic will permit to record 32bits audio on the GH6 with a firmware release. For the GH5, I think it still a very capable great camera with a very good log profile. I'm still hesitating getting a FF camera, how to you like yours? Hoe does it match with your M43 cameras?

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi, thanks for stopping by and taking the time to comment. We have a similar path with the GH cameras (except that I don't shoot cars on race tracks!). I bought the GH5 at release and still have it. It's a great camera that has served me well, but it is getting old. I bought the GH6 at release and used it for a while. My biggest disappointment was that they stayed with the old contrast detect autofocus system... and then they released the G9II with phase detect shortly after the GH6. I was, honestly, quite upset about that. I held onto the GH6 for about a year and a half before selling it and buying another S5IIX. I kept the GH5 because it was still a capable camera... which ultimately led to this comparison video about upgrading from the GH5 to GH7. I doubt they will add 32-bit float to the GH6. They already released a GH6 firmware update that at least allows it to use the new XLR2 adapter, but without 32-bit float. I guess the camera itself just isn't capable of recording that audio format. I bought the S5 when it was released, thinking I would slowly move away from the GH series. Each system has its strengths and weaknesses, and I don't have any pressure to sell off my m43 system, so I think I will keep both. Honestly, I use the S5IIX with the 24-105mm lens as my main everyday camera now. The GH7 stays mounted on a tripod in my studio most of the time, but I do prefer it as my travel camera because its lenses are much more compact. I find that the GH7 leans quite magenta compared to the S5IIX, even with manually setting the white balance on both. I could adjust the tint in camera, I suppose... but usually I adjust it in post production for now. Aside from that, I think the GH7 and S5IIX go quite well together. Sorry for the overly long answer! 😅

    • @themoonshell-F4LFJ
      @themoonshell-F4LFJ 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HaveCameraNowWhat Thanks for the comprehensive answer! OK, so I'll get the GH7 & the XLR2 module for sure and I may get a S5IIx with the 24-105mm later this year. Maybe like you, I have an expensive set of M43 Lenses (Fujinon MKs, 10-25mm & 25-50 f1.7, 50-200mm f2.8-4, the 100-400mm, the 12-35mm & 35-100mm...and some primes) so I won't give up the Panasonic M43 system anytime soon, and franckly the images out of the GH6 are fantastic. In an other hand, In 2016 I use to have the Sony FS5 for a year, I can say the ergonomy of this camera is great, much better than the mirrorless cameras. I have hesitated to buy an FX6 but the innability to have 4k resolution in S35 mode make hold the purchase (as I could not enjoy the Funion MKs with it). And the downside of this camera is that it-s not compact at all, not good for travelling.

  • @mindlessonion
    @mindlessonion หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for creating this video, man! Looking forward to see more video from your channel! Good luck!

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for stopping by and taking the time to comment. I appreciate it!

  • @Norain1992
    @Norain1992 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is thes DMW-XLR2 compatible with other Lumix cameras than the GH7?

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      As of now, no it is not. If you put it on another camera, the camera does not recognize that an XLR adapter is connected. Maybe Panasonic will at least add compatibility through firmware updates later, but doubtful if it will bring 32-bit float capability to the other cameras.

    • @Norain1992
      @Norain1992 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HaveCameraNowWhat thanks for the information! Yes they should just add support for the other Lumix cameras. (without 32-bit float)

  • @andersistbesser
    @andersistbesser หลายเดือนก่อน

    the only thing i really dont like about gh7 is that they removed 4k open gate mode. you hear right there is NO 4k in open gate in this camera. sadly 4k50 open gate is the only mode i shoot with. in gh5 it was 8 bit only. i hoped they would make it 10 bit in gh7 but they removed 4k50 open gate completely... i will wait a bit to give them a chance to add it with a firmware update and if they dont do i sell my gh7 an never buy a lumix again as i am really pissed as gh7 is a expensive downgrade for my 2200 euros i paid for this.

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Might it be naming differences? The GH5 offering open gate mode was pretty new for the day when 4K was kind of the only game in town and people weren't familiar with anything higher than that. My GH5 in the Anamorphic(4:3) settings it is called 4K anamorphic that records at 3328x2496 pixels which is the 4:3 aspect ratio (I only seem to have 23.98fps... nothing higher on my GH5). The GH7 has everything "4K" limited to a vertical size of 2160 pixels. Anything higher than 2160 pixels is called things like 5.7K or 5.8K. If you need something in the 4:3 aspect ratio at 50p then it will do 4.4K at 4352x3264 pixels which is more resolution than the GH5 can deliver.

  • @photo2000
    @photo2000 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have never experienced the tint value changing when I have selected Kelvin as the wb option. It is never at 0, always at 3-7 depending on the corresponding Kelvin temp, depending on how LR want to interpret the Nikon color science. But it never fluctuates. And I would be very surprised if the other camera brands weren't the same 🤔🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ That would defeat the purpose of manually dialing in color temp

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi. Thanks for stopping by and taking time to comment. I realized after posting the video that this topic could be more important for video where things could be changing in front of the camera throughout a clip.

  • @boardhouseextra6525
    @boardhouseextra6525 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll just stick to my zoom f6

  • @kennethgooswit3697
    @kennethgooswit3697 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For audio Resolve 19 is super.

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      I really need to try Resolve and start on that learning curve.

    • @billhouston1297
      @billhouston1297 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HaveCameraNowWhat As a video novice, i found it not too difficult. There are tons of TH-cam videos for "how-to do ... " in Davinci Resolve. You can seamlessly jump back and forth between the various functions (Cut, Edit, Farilight-audio, Color, Fusion, Deliver) 95 percent or more of the features are included in the free version. The paid Studio version costs a one time $295! Both the free and Studio versions keep getting updates (at no further cost!). For only $395 you can get the Speed Editor keyboard PLUS the Studio version.

  • @Johatsu
    @Johatsu หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice ! Can you control the settings ? aperture, shutter, WB, focus ?

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just checked mine on the S5IIX. You can control aperture, shutter speed, and iso. It doesn't seem to control focus because touching the screen on the phone tries to activate active track on the gimbal. I don't see any setting for white balance either.

  • @GrenlandUnderVann
    @GrenlandUnderVann หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why can't you simply use the Lumix app to start/stop the camera?

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can. However, I've found the range of the LUMIX app to be fairly limited when using the camera's WiFi function... Perhaps it's because the antenna hidden inside the camera body doesn't have as strong a signal. I've had the app drop out after about 10m. The Raveneye on the other hand says that its range goes up to 200m. While that's probably in best case situations, I've seen other people use it from distances that would likely completely drop on the LUMIX app.

  • @eprohoda
    @eprohoda หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have! how u doingg?~very good , ))

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for stopping by. Love the videos on your channel!

  • @ananomaus
    @ananomaus หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just dragged my old gray card out of storage. It will be interesting to see how my photos look vs just setting wb manually.

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good luck! I've noticed a difference. The tint setting is consistent now :)

  • @iseethedifference
    @iseethedifference หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey mate, i don't want to teach you colour correction but your skin looks green in the frame and i'm watching the video on a new macbook with True tone setting on. In studio you can use sandart camera profile, looks like you messed up with log colours way too far from reality.

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi, and thanks for the comment. Actually, someone else mentioned it too. Pretty embarrassing for a video talking about "correct color". Since posting this, I've found 2 problems with my set up (not related to white balancing, though): 1) the overhead lights behind me have a green cast, so I'm looking at replacing those lights; 2) my monitor color management settings were off! I'm working on a P3 monitor, but the timeline is rec.709 and color management was turned off, so what I was seeing was different from the final output. Man, I wish I could go back and correct the video, but TH-cam doesn't allow it.

  • @rickymcc8624
    @rickymcc8624 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the insight. I will try doing this. Currently I tend to use AWB or flash etc , shoot in raw, then fix later in LR. Often I find just setting something like flash, tungsten etc gives greater consistency shot to shot in any outdoor ambient situation than relying on AWB as the AWB Kelvin set will often differ shot to shot as camera attempts to adjust for overall screen tonality. So a portrait shot with a green bush background will display different skin tones (and AWB Kelvin) than same subject in similar light shot against a blue base etc (with AWB). I know a custom WB can help, but I don't always do one. That said, as an amateur pleasing myself, it's often good enough.

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! Sounds like you have a manageable workflow there. For photography, I usually shoot in AWB myself and find that my camera does a pretty decent job. The technology is pretty good today :)

  • @DavidFamous
    @DavidFamous หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is such a niche but necessary thing as a photographer and filmmaker, the point made about how the kelvin only adjusts the blue and red leaving the tint up to random is where it all clicked for me, at first i thought a color card to balance was excessive but taking that reading at least once is a game changer

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. I'm really happy if this can help some people get better color in their videos :)

  • @haseenmultimedia3103
    @haseenmultimedia3103 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wow learnt something new after 30 years of filming. Useful tip. Thank you

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! I'm glad if this can help someone ☺️

  • @pjay3028
    @pjay3028 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's extremely interesting, I didn't know that, thanks very much.

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for commenting. I appreciate it! ☺️

  • @Chris_Wolfgram
    @Chris_Wolfgram หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hmmmmm......... Your video gives me pause. I didn't have any idea that my tint was being auto adjusted ? But the problem is, I shoot small, fast, twitchy birds, in constantly changing locations. Taking even a few seconds to mess with my WB settings, could totally make the difference of getting the shot, or not. So I have set it at 5550 and forgot about it, fully expecting to adjust my WB as a quick step in my normal PS workflow. This does make me reconsider the use of the tint slider though. Not necessarily for every single shot.... But for that 1 out of every 10 or 30, which I just can't seem to be happy with the white balance, going either direction on the Kelvin temp ? Strong chance, those shots had an issue with the Tint value. Now I'm anxious to try this the next time around. Thank you SO much for the informative video, and the eye opener :)

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for taking the time to comment! I suspect that different camera makers will treat the tint aspect of white balance differently. Some may lock it, some may use some stored value, and some may continue to auto adjust it. Fortunately, auto white balance is generally pretty good on modern cameras. Especially with photos, it may be easier to deal with the occasional tint adjustment. But in my case, it is more problematic for video if the tint shifts from shot to shot, or within a shot because it could be very noticeable to viewers.

  • @sarahbatsford4791
    @sarahbatsford4791 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this video, it has really helped🎉

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. I appreciate it!

  • @TonyLiveTV
    @TonyLiveTV หลายเดือนก่อน

    @5m41s do you notice the green tint on the left wall? I think it is coming from your key light panel in the front. Otherwise everything looks great. Much better than the WB video. Feel free to delete this post.

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for helping me to check on the lighting! Looking at a screenshot from my iPhone footage, I can see a green tint at the top of the left wall, but it goes away towards the bottom. From the angle of the reflection, I suspect the culprit is again the LED tube lights I mounted to the ceiling. I guess a way to get to the bottom of it would be to buy a color meter and check the output from each light. If only color meters weren't so expensive. From your other comment about not going out and buying expensive lights, my budget agrees. I need to do a bit more checking, but I may end up replacing those tube lights at least. Thanks again my friend!

  • @koobs4549
    @koobs4549 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Once I discovered the Expo Disc, I never looked back. I especially like how well it works in mixed lighting. It always provides a good average value & it’s easy to make small color corrections in post, to even everything out

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah. I've seen those, but never tried it. Thanks for the tip. I should look into it.

    • @Macjohn1419
      @Macjohn1419 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I also have an Expo Disc. You don’t have to carry around a bulky grey card. Worth the price.

    • @ytdufy
      @ytdufy หลายเดือนก่อน

      In difficult lighting environments, with multiple light sources, it is the only one that does the job.

    • @DavidFamous
      @DavidFamous หลายเดือนก่อน

      is this for both exposure and whitebalance?

    • @Macjohn1419
      @Macjohn1419 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DavidFamous, yes.

  • @TonyLiveTV
    @TonyLiveTV หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just commented on your latest video regarding white balance and I mentioned a green tint. This video does not suffer from this. This video (the commentary) looks great. I feel there may be just a little bit of green tint, but not something that stands out. Maybe the camera is on the green side and has nothing to do with white balance. The videos on my channel are done in real-time (very little post) using several different cameras and an Atem switcher. 3 of the cameras I use are 20 year old Sony camcorders and one expensive Canon using 2.8L 34-70mm and they all blend well in the end with virtually no color grading to speak of. I always set the white balance on each camera before I record anything. I mostly use a card to snapshot the white balance just like I did 40 years ago.

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi. Thank you for commenting and elaborating on the color settings. I appreciate your taking the time to explain and share your experience. Despite doing this for quite a while and taking a few classes in university way back when, I'm mostly self taught, and definitely still learning. Your taking the time to share your experience is tremendously valuable! I'll recalibrate my monitor for good measure. And yes, maybe the camera does lean to the green tint. It could also be my complexion? I'm asian and have a yellowish, rather than pinkish tint to my skin. Anyway, I'm just starting to shoot for TH-cam and obviously have a way to go, and hopefully continue to improve. 🙂

    • @TonyLiveTV
      @TonyLiveTV หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HaveCameraNowWhat thanks for not thinking I was here to bash your videos. These days I feel the WB sensors do a fantastic job on their own without trying to white balance. I find it easy to set the camera to auto and let the sensor do the work. Once locked in I switch it to manual so the WB is consistent throughout the shoot. Have a good one my friend. My channel is not about photography like yours so I rarely spend time worrying about WB or color grading. Many years ago I owned a photo lab and I use to spend hours color grading a single RAW photo before there was digital. I use to dodge and burn the old school way. Now I let the camera do most of the work and I most always shoot in manual mode. With my Canon cameras I mostly shoot in aperture priority on most everything unless it is an action shot.

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pleasure chatting with you :) Ah, the dark room and smell of photo chemicals. Those were the days. lol

  • @roey218
    @roey218 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, why a gray card and not a white one? Thanks

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi. Thanks for the question! A white card will also work. I've used copier paper in the past, in a pinch. There is one caveat: You need to make sure that you're not severely overexposing the white card when you take a reading. If you do, the R, G, and B channels will all hit 100% and the camera may not be able to pick up the light's color properly. A gray card was originally used for metering your exposure and is much harder to completely blow out the exposure on, so it can be safer.

  • @TonyLiveTV
    @TonyLiveTV หลายเดือนก่อน

    I personally have never went with kelvin. I have always used a gray card. I notice in this video here it has an awful green tint. Once you get the white balance in the camera, the next thing is color grading, contrast, brightness and so on in post. To get this all right you need a good reference monitor, a good eye and a lot of time.

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi and thanks for the comment. Hm. You've got me wondering. Do you see an awful green tint in my videos? I'm not seeing it, but then again, I'm not a colorist. I know my videos are low contrast because the studio lights are not set up for this particular angle of shot and it's very flat. But I'm not seeing a green tint on 3 devices I've checked on: Mac Studio running on an Asus ProArt display that has been calibrated, MacBook Air built in display, iPhone 15 Pro.

    • @TonyLiveTV
      @TonyLiveTV หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes there is definitely a green tint. It’s not temperature, it’s tint. Your white balance may be good, but there is a tinting problem that might be a camera issue. I too have a reference monitor and I see green around your neck by the collar of your shirt and on your head where the light is (front camera). When I view this video it looks as if you shot it in log and forgot to use a LUT and no color grading (like it is washed out). A good reference is an iPad Pro. Sometimes I feel the iPad Pro is better than my BenQ SW272Q.

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah! I see what you're talking about now. You're right. There is a green tint around my neck the comes and goes. And you're right that it's not a white balance issue either -- it's the lights behind me that have a green color cast. I'm getting ready to post my next video which is a tour of this kitchen studio. In it you can see the mixed lighting set up that I have in the studio. The hair lights are cheap LED tube lights from Amazon, and the under-cabinet lights are from Ikea. They are "warm incandescent" lights, but not color accurate photo lights... and I think that's what's causing the green tint on my neck. I've been wanting to switch to using all Aputure lights and maybe I should speed up that transition. Thanks for point it out!

    • @TonyLiveTV
      @TonyLiveTV หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HaveCameraNowWhat I’m glad you see it. Don’t waist your money on expensive lights for home studio lighting. I own some very expensive German light boxes that do no better than the LED shop lights you can purchase at Home Depot for about $30. All videos on my channel are lighted with these simple lights. I have only 4 of these lights. They are simple T8 LED tubes that produce 3,600 Lumens of 4000K light. I wrap the light in a thin white cloth sheet to deflect the light source. If you use ANY colored lights you must place them behind you for video. If you are color shifting I would assume your camera is at fault (not locked on WB). I didn’t mention this earlier, but I design and install theater lighting for video, theatrical stages and concerts.

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      You've definitely got the experience! Do the LED shop lights from Home Depot have any odd color tints? That's what I'm guessing would be a problem with cheap lights since they are not intended for photo/video use. If you take a peek at my latest Kitchen Studio Tour video that I just posted and skip to the "What I would do differently" section, you can see that the lighting has different tints (note the color it throws onto the ceiling). The tube lights I bought on Amazon for cheap definitely have a greenish tint, and the old Aputure Tri-8C to the left has a magenta tint. I actually didn't notice it until I shot this tour on my iPhone and was editing the footage. Now it bothers me a lot 😅 And now I am certain that this is what causes the green tint around my neck in the white balance video. The white balance on the camera isn't shifting, but depending on how I move, my neck reflects the green tinted light into the lens.

  • @JulioBomfim
    @JulioBomfim หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a very basic concept for those who have actually studied photography in schools or good books. It is mandatory for those who work with commercial or product photos or videos. Unfortunately, no one wants to make the effort to learn the right way anymore.

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed. It's basic and old news for a lot of people. I hope this video helps more people understand that a gray card is still a useful tool 🙂

  • @tori8380
    @tori8380 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You also have to know the spectra of your light sources. Modern light sources have big gaps in their spectra. In the analog video days we had to white and black balance.

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for commenting. Honestly, that's beyond my knowledge so I hadn't gone there. Do you mean that light sources don't put out a consistent amount at all wavelengths, even if they appear "white" to our eyes? How effectively does white balance and black balance compensate for gaps in the spectra?

  • @3dtrip870
    @3dtrip870 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you grade your footage? It looks like you shot in log, but didn’t grade, looks low contrast and a bit dull. I am not trying to insult your work, just trying to help: I am on an iPhone 13 Pro Max

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      No offense taken! Thanks for watching and commenting. I did minimal grading on this video. I do shoot in log and do a pretty basic rec.709 conversion. From there I just did highlight and shadow adjustments, but not much beyond that. This kitchen studio is a very high key environment, and it's meant to be pretty low contrast. For the purpose of cooking videos, I was hoping to make it look more "analog" and less digital.It's not an ideal set for shooting non-cooking videos 😆

  • @Isaypreach
    @Isaypreach หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hate to admit it but when i first started doing photography i use to use a expodisc and as time went by. I got lazy in using it because I the colors or something in my nikon camera to give me consistent colors. Sometimes the color temps would change but more often than not I captured in camera what my eyes saw in real life.

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for the comment. To be honest, most of the time I use auto white balance when I'm just taking photos or videos for myself, and cameras these days do a pretty good job most of the time. But I do these cooking videos and interview videos for work, and I need to get the color right in those situations. That's when the white balance setting becomes really important.

  • @Mraz75
    @Mraz75 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that is something new.. i never realize it. thank you so much

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. I appreciate it!

    • @Mraz75
      @Mraz75 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HaveCameraNowWhat welcome sir

  • @BetterPeopleProductions
    @BetterPeopleProductions หลายเดือนก่อน

    One thing I noticed with my own studio set up was that the lights were changing the color temp. My Godox was giving off a magenta hue. I had to shift the tone in the camera to include more blue.

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, good point! There are so many things that can affect the light. Even different soft boxes, scrims, reflectors, and objects around the set can affect it. On the camera side, different lenses, filters, teleprompters affect it. At least with white balancing from a card, it takes a reading that accounts for all those different variables and you should be able to get good colors from there.

  • @marcusnz232
    @marcusnz232 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I only shoot stills and I set my cameras to 5500K (daylight) because I grew up shooting daylight balanced film. I prefer and am used to that look. Photography is art not science - colours can look however you want them to look: it's allowed and there is no rule to obey if you are shooting personal work. Do what appeals to you. Video might be different - but I have never and will never shoot it so it matters not to me.

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. Art and personal style are super important. This was geared more towards video, and in my case color accuracy is quite important so setting a Kelvin value was causing problems for my work. White balancing this way should still apply to photography, but especially if you shoot RAW photos, you have so much flexibility to edit it later. I can't remember the last time I manually white balanced when doing photos only.

  • @MyJessmatt
    @MyJessmatt หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was taught to hold a piece of A4 paper and balance each camera of nthis in the light set up you would nbe shooting under and if your camera has a seoerate black balance also do that as well.

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for commenting! I often did that in a pinch too, since it's easy to find white copier paper in many places. Is black balance still common? I haven't see it in a very, very long time.

  • @xodius80
    @xodius80 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A white card or gray will suffice? Whats the difference between both?

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi. Thank you for watching and good question. A white card works too 😊 There seem to be different opinions on the effectiveness of white versus gray. It seems natural to use a white card to "white" balance, but on a technical level, it may not make a difference to the camera -- as long as the card you are using is truly neutral white or gray. Traditionally a gray card was used with an exposure meter to get the proper exposure for photography, so many old school photographers (like myself) might default to using gray cards.

  • @bamsemh1
    @bamsemh1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Use Adobe colors instead of s-rgb. The auto Kelvin with be much more natural colored.

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah, interesting. I hadn't thought about setting the camera to Adobe RGB. That will give you a larger color gamut but I hadn't thought about how it might affect white balance. I should test that out.

    • @bamsemh1
      @bamsemh1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HaveCameraNowWhat I learned it after using Canon and Sony, because red and green was always over saturated 😬

  • @AR-vf7vg
    @AR-vf7vg หลายเดือนก่อน

    HEY.. : Did You bite Yourself through do this by ovoiding the topic of RAW ???????????????????

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unfortunately RAW video is still not so common for most people. If you can shoot RAW, then yes you can adjust your white balance in post production.

  • @joerock7005
    @joerock7005 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I may have missed it, but please explain how you are using either the grey or white card to set up your camera for proper white balance.Are you still manually setting the temp in your camera prior to shooting and then just using the white or gray card in post? Are you using the Lightroom "white balance selector" tool (on the grey or white card) to then set the Temp & Tint correctly? As you probably know, the LR tool doesn't work for white with no detail (RGB are all 100% in tool), so I do not even know how you would use a white card to fix temp & tint in post. Thanks

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching. Great question! I first use the gray card to set the white balance at the time I'm shooting. But (and this isn't in the video) I also recorded a little bit of footage while holding the card, so that I could check the results on the actual media files, using the eye dropper tool during editing. That gave me a double check that the white balance was set correctly. And yes, you're right. That's an important point! If anything is completely over exposed so the RGB values are 100% in all channels, then it serves no purpose for white balancing because an eye dropper tool will not pick up any difference in any of the colors. That would be an interesting test. If using a white card and the exposure settings cause it to completely blow out, would it still give accurate results? In that case, a gray card may actually be safer. Hmmm. I should test this later.

    • @joerock7005
      @joerock7005 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HaveCameraNowWhat Thanks for taking the time to respond.

  • @HighlandHippie
    @HighlandHippie หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's a good catch. I did not think of it either. Thank you for your insight. - Robert

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi. Thank you for the comment! I had completely overlooked tint for years. I guess much of the time setting Kelvin could be okay... but when color accuracy is really important, or you're working with strong colors that could throw off your any auto settings, it is better to use a card. 😊

  • @TheBigBlueMarble
    @TheBigBlueMarble หลายเดือนก่อน

    With the most recent Canon cameras (R5, R5II, R1, R3, R6II) the auto white balance is so good you never need to use anything else.

    • @xodius80
      @xodius80 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My copy of the r6 with a tamron 25-70 g2 has terrible wb issues, with my calibrated monitor i can tell, using the custom in CRITICAL color work is beneficial

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      To be honest, for casual shooting I leave the camera on auto white balance most of the time. This was aimed more at situations where color accuracy is really important. In my case, that's for cooking videos or interviews where I need to get accurate skin tones.

  • @4Manos
    @4Manos หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks, very useful!!

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi. Thank you very much for watching and commenting! I appreciate it! 😊

  • @mztales
    @mztales หลายเดือนก่อน

    And on the S5ii you can set both manually if you want, Kelvin and tint

    • @HaveCameraNowWhat
      @HaveCameraNowWhat หลายเดือนก่อน

      True! You can set a Kelvin value, and then fine tune that using a color matrix chart. I haven't tested it, but I wonder if that will then lock in the tint. It might be interesting to check on that. Where I have used the adjustment is to better match my cameras. I have a couple of S5IIX bodies and a GH7 as my A, B, and C cams for this studio. The GH7 gives a more magenta cast to the image by default, so I've toned that down a little bit using the matrix. It's handy!