Ibrahim became power hungry & was responsible for his own death. He never accepted the Sultan's choice of Hurrem just like all the Sultan's family. He conspired with all of them to get rid of her although she bore him 5 children. None of them ever gave up trying to get rid of her and she fought them all. Most of her fights against them was done without the Sultan's help. They were the ones who ultimately helped set up Mustapha for his downfall. They encouraged him to go against his father.
Hurrem was the one who started the war with Ibrahim when she was a favourite. She couldn’t stand the idea that Suleyman gave attention to other ppl besides her. She was very annoying back then and very vindictive, always implying that her son would be sultan and not Mustafa - and Ibrahim was naturally protecting Mustafa because he took care of him since he was born in manisa
Poor Nijar & Esmanur, Efendi should have sent Nijar with her daughter to Ibrahim's family. 🥺 they both would have been happy togetger in that quaint friendly village.
I personally don't like these titles. I would've liked it better if they showed exactly what's the scene about and not the perspective of the guy who posts them
I love how he calls hurrem and rustem scoundrels when he allowed and helped guide an entire affair against a sultana from everyone including sulieman. Went as far as lying right to peoples faces more then once.
I watched few turkish movies. Turkish artists are so good especially in an emotional scene. But im wondering if turkish audience love sad ending that's why writers often wrapped up the piece in a tragic ending?
Ultimately his death was his own fault. Trying to gain more power than Suleiman. He’s lucky he lasted as long as he did. Should have been executed way earlier for his treachery.
He committed Treachery. He also pretends AND act like the Sultan. Which means he ultimately dug his own grave. After Suleiman heard news that Ibrahim was saying things behind his back and his 'betrayal' of some sort, he immediately asked for his execution. He was arrogant enough not to be Cautious when talking behind Suleiman's back.
They say Nasuh was just, why he didn't let Nigar go with her daughter then!? He took part in ruining her life. She would divorce Rustem in 1 minute or just run away if she couldn't... I liked Nasuh in the first season. But then he became Ibrahim's puppet, completly blind for all the cruelties he did... Yep, Nasuh, for sure Ibrahim's murder was a crime, you probably forgot everything he's done and all the murders he comitted od contributed to...
I agree. Nasuh lost his conscience and heart and became Ibrahim’s blind accomplice. He was the reason the child was separated from her mother, he didn’t even think about consulting her. It’s heartless. Ibrahim loved Nigar and would have wanted Nigar to take care of her. Putting the blame of the Sultan’s decision on Rustem and Hurrem (the misogynists here) is the most cowardly thing I have seen in the comments. He is the Sultan, if he’s so weak to make baseless decisions based on the desires of those around him, they must hold him in very low esteem.
@@hkleider I’m not sure, maybe he had good intentions. But what I know for sure is that Nigar deteriorated from this point, she became a killer and committed suicide after attempting to kidnap Rustem’s child. She never saw her daughter again.
Damn he was a player... both his wife and paramour are crying for him even though he doesn't love any of them.
He seemed to love his wife, but I think that it was more of a fascination with her being a Sultana.
I guess he loved both to a certain extent. Ibrahim Pasha loved the beautiful sultana Hatice and Theo of Parga loved Nigar and their daughter Esmanur.
A man who isn't loyal to one woman but has two three women in his life cannot love anyone.its lust, attraction never love
And his wife's sister too(sah). You find out she was in love with him before he j married hatice
I think he loved both, but was chained in that palace
Oh man... Nasuh Efendi... The World would be surely a different place if more people would be like you.
True that..
Pet of Ibrahim Pasha...
@@fairytale8424 unfortunatly
@@fairytale8424 hardly. He’s just loyal to Ibrahim.
Matrakci had such a big and pure heart 💕
Poor Niğar Ibrahim should have choos her before Hadice
Ibrahim Pasha flew too high and close to the sun that his wings melted and fell to the abyss like Icarus.
Ibrahim became power hungry & was responsible for his own death. He never accepted the Sultan's choice of Hurrem just like all the Sultan's family. He conspired with all of them to get rid of her although she bore him 5 children. None of them ever gave up trying to get rid of her and she fought them all. Most of her fights against them was done without the Sultan's help. They were the ones who ultimately helped set up Mustapha for his downfall. They encouraged him to go against his father.
Hurrem was the one who started the war with Ibrahim when she was a favourite. She couldn’t stand the idea that Suleyman gave attention to other ppl besides her. She was very annoying back then and very vindictive, always implying that her son would be sultan and not Mustafa - and Ibrahim was naturally protecting Mustafa because he took care of him since he was born in manisa
Poor Nijar & Esmanur, Efendi should have sent Nijar with her daughter to Ibrahim's family. 🥺 they both would have been happy togetger in that quaint friendly village.
They would have had to convert back.
Yes a child should be with her mom.
nigar was with rustem, if he had sent her to her daughter, she would have been cought and brought back
He was smart to get the entire family out. So they family would not suffer.
Oh yes, I would have loved such an ending, too.
He was loved by many and had a few, good and loyal friends ❗❗❗❗‼️‼️‼️‼️
I personally don't like these titles. I would've liked it better if they showed exactly what's the scene about and not the perspective of the guy who posts them
It's accurate.... Ibrahim did leave behind 3 women... Hatice shah and nigar ..dramawise I mean
I consider the title as very suitable.
Poor ibrahim 💔😢
I love how he calls hurrem and rustem scoundrels when he allowed and helped guide an entire affair against a sultana from everyone including sulieman. Went as far as lying right to peoples faces more then once.
Nijar is an imaginary character
So there's no esmanur
And he didn't left any other women except hatice and hurrijihan
We have very little info about the real Ibrahim's love life. We only discuss the fictional one.
He didn't get married to hatice in real life
Neither ibrahim was hatice's husband in real life
Anybody tell me what happend to gulnihal????
How helpless they are
I watched few turkish movies. Turkish artists are so good especially in an emotional scene. But im wondering if turkish audience love sad ending that's why writers often wrapped up the piece in a tragic ending?
@Aslyn thanks, but im not talking only in this particular series. Im talking to turkish movie in general
Such a beautiful girl, too bad couldn’t enjoy his fathers love , has unique name too
what happens to the child later?
Nasuh Effendi....
Such a nice man!
Nigar is a fool not to spend her life with him
What a nice and devoted men
what happens with esmanur
Matrakci deserved a lot better in the series... :(
Sie hat er hin gebracht aber nicht Hatice?
Who killed Ibrahim?
Executed by the Sultan
Ibrahim… suicide by Sultan.
Suicide by sultan.
Ultimately his death was his own fault. Trying to gain more power than Suleiman. He’s lucky he lasted as long as he did. Should have been executed way earlier for his treachery.
He committed Treachery. He also pretends AND act like the Sultan. Which means he ultimately dug his own grave. After Suleiman heard news that Ibrahim was saying things behind his back and his 'betrayal' of some sort, he immediately asked for his execution. He was arrogant enough not to be Cautious when talking behind Suleiman's back.
They say Nasuh was just, why he didn't let Nigar go with her daughter then!? He took part in ruining her life. She would divorce Rustem in 1 minute or just run away if she couldn't...
I liked Nasuh in the first season. But then he became Ibrahim's puppet, completly blind for all the cruelties he did... Yep, Nasuh, for sure Ibrahim's murder was a crime, you probably forgot everything he's done and all the murders he comitted od contributed to...
I agree. Nasuh lost his conscience and heart and became Ibrahim’s blind accomplice. He was the reason the child was separated from her mother, he didn’t even think about consulting her. It’s heartless. Ibrahim loved Nigar and would have wanted Nigar to take care of her. Putting the blame of the Sultan’s decision on Rustem and Hurrem (the misogynists here) is the most cowardly thing I have seen in the comments. He is the Sultan, if he’s so weak to make baseless decisions based on the desires of those around him, they must hold him in very low esteem.
@@kamilas2576 mIsOgYnIsTs
He did say once things calmed down a bit after Ibrahim's death he would send Nigar to her daughter no?
@@hkleider I’m not sure, maybe he had good intentions. But what I know for sure is that Nigar deteriorated from this point, she became a killer and committed suicide after attempting to kidnap Rustem’s child. She never saw her daughter again.
Thanks God she never saw her daughter again