Why I Love RockShox | The Evolution Of MTB Suspension
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- 33 years since RockShox released the first telescopic suspension fork to the mountain bike world and in that time they have maintained as one of the brands at the forefront of suspension technology and become one of the most iconic brands in MTB. In this video, Doddy takes a look at some of their latest and greatest tech innovations, but we also dive into the archives to see some wild stuff that you might not have even known existed from their rich history!
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I have a recon now planning on uppgrading any suggestions?
I still have my Judy XC's with White industries coil springs. Mounted on my steel frame stumpjumper.
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@@flashfive23 expensive tho😅
One of the best suspension forks they ever made was the Judy XL. Thankfully I have one. I started with a Quadra 10 on my GT.
Liked this, was very reminiscent. Can we do something similar for Marzocchi and Manitou?
We'll work on them Jason!
reminiscent? reminds you of something? or do you mean nostalgic..
@@petesmitt reminiscent of my childhood hood and the forks I saw over my years mountain biking
@@gmbntech How about the history of Fox and Öhlins?
@@gmbntech thanks, would be superInteresting to have the same about Marzocchi and Manitou ✌ They both have such a rich history and influence during the dawn of MTBing, and later.
I think the 2nd ever created suspensionFork, after the RS1, was the Manitou1, even without an Elastomer-stack, but with ONE long elastomer in the left and right side 😁
and the Manitou M3 was a sheer CNC-machined beauty, unparalled til this day.
The first set of Rock Shox I ever tried were literally the first set of Rock Shox. I used to ride with Paul Turner fairly regularly starting in 86 or 87 in Nisene Park near his shop after he introduced me to mountain biking and helped me buy my first bike, a Bianchi Grizzly, and he started developing the forks some months after that. I got to try the prototype in the parking lot outside his shop in Soquel, CA on some parking lot blocks he had borrowed from other parking spaces in the complex. They were amazing even then at soaking up a hit that would have stopped you or at least killed your momentum without them. Later I was at the Long Beach show where they introduced them on the Kestrel Nitro full suspension bike. In retrospect I think it would have been better to show Rock Shox separately on regular bikes as that Nitro seemed like Sci Fi to people at the time. The forks were fully functional though. In early development Paul had a lockout control on his handlebars as early skeptics felt that the forks would steal pedaling energy, which was counter to physics, but he felt it necessary to kill that criticism before it went too far. Also the original design fork leg stickers were green on the word Rock and pink on Shox. I still have an early version he sent me that has the "wrong green" that I could never figure out what to stick to. I got a set of forks from the second production run of 150, so that was the first set I've owned. I have a newer set on my current Santa Cruz 5010.
Yoo thats an incredible Story!!!
Awesome story bud.
Love the founding fossils. When I used to walk both ways uphill to school, the bike industry was mad scientists who were so brilliant and quirky.
People like John Parker of Yeti, or Doug Bradbury of Manitou. Jack Witmer of Cooks brother racing. Passion and ingenuity.
It was like being party of the wild west. A special time in our sport. New ideas and designs were a blur of innovation. The craftsmanship that came out of that era was mind blowing.
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I was living in Utah in 1996 and saved to get a ROCK SHOX Judy XC. 63mm of elastomer travel and I felt I could conquer anything. Had never experienced anything like that before.
I recently bought the Specialized S-WORKS Enduro LTD ASX w/Flight Attendant. This suspension system is beyond "rocket science".
You have to personally experience it.
Love this video. So much nostalgia. Brought me back to my first ever suspension fork (that I had to remind myself of the name): the Quadra 21 R
I think the original SID’s are my favourite looking fork of all time. I remember when they were launched, they instantly became the XC fork of choice for all the pro’s unless you happened to ride for Cannondale…
I think the original Boxxer pro’s come a close second with the white and red scheme, they also became the choice of the DH pro’s pretty much overnight!
It really was a golden era for the sport.
One of the best videos you have made Doddy. Loved the build up from past to present. I had a set of Indy SL long travels back in the day. The iconic Rock Shox logo made it for me.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I've got the 140mm Recon fork, it's just perfect for what I use my trail bike for ! It's super smooth and very well built ! 👍🏻 Love it
Doddy, if memory serves me that vehicle is an Oldsmobile cutlass vista cruiser wagon. Nice video! Had my mind made up on a fox suspension upgrade but now I’m even more confused…….lol🤣
For someone like me who's new to Mountain Biking this video was so informative and I found the documentaries you were talking about so lot's of fun stuff to watch.
I've been in to cycling and mountain biking since the early 90's too, so I recognise most of these variations. I had a rockshox dart many years ago on a trek I had and currently I have a pike on my old Spesh, which I still thrash.
Beautiful fat PIKE ,fantastic shock 🤟💯⚡
I upgraded my purple anodized GT RTS-3 from a Quadra 10 to a Judy XC in 96. I immediately noticed a big difference. I still ride Rock Shox forks to this day. I have a black SID air on my Trek Fuel, and a Judy XL on my Titus. I'm so glad to see this channel giving credit where it's due. So many young people these day don't know the history and significance of many things they take for granted. Thanks.
Good forks, it's just a shame that they've made spares and instructions less available for each iteration of the charger damper. Can't replace the bushings in the lower casting either.
And block you from buying online even though they know no one stocks them locally. Terrible company.
Got the soul sucked out of them by SRAM.
Fox is kinda the same as far as servicing goes
@@finn1613 They got better. At least you can buy the special tools now.
@@chrisridesbicycles The clamps and stuff for the x2?
I don't really know why, but I've just never been in love with Fox. It has always been Rock Shox for me!
Really great video Doddy. More of this please GMBN! Nothing to write home about for me, but a pair of Dart 3's on my first proper MTB way back in 2010 on my Trek 6300. Transformed how I saw a bicycle, and getting out there to spend time in Mid Wales (Nant-yr-Arian etc) was mindblowing. I spent a fair chunk of my student loan on it, but it was worth every penny, and life changing. Amazing.
Just installed my 19th Rockshox fork in my riding career. The first one was a '95 Judy, with a Rissie Gem cartridge and coil springs and the latest is a 2023 Pike Ultimate.
I'm a pre 2008 marzocchi fan. Something about the coil, open bath and air preload.
Rockshox is a really good brand too.
An OG rider here. I started in 1990 on a GT Timberline (anyone remember their bull horn bars?) with the iconic Quadra fork. I loved it so much I converted a salvaged Quadra in to a bike shop lamp. RockShox will forever be synonymous with mountain biking. That logo, just F’ING brilliant! RIDE ON!
Absolutely phenomenal video.
I hadn’t properly realised how influential rock shox had been to my riding until this.
My first mountain bike had rockshox judy’s and I rode them for years. Eventually about 15 or 20 years after they were made I eventually snapped the brace at a skate park.
I still firmly believe they were the best forks I ever had, almost no adjustment, but perfect anyway. Predictable as the tides, and just as reliable.
I was one of the many that got their first taste of suspension thanks to Rock Shox. Late 90's, lovely pair of the blue Indy C forks proudly bolted onto the front of my Claud Butler! Loved them and also felt like I'd joined "the club". Had a fair few pairs of Rock Shox over the years and my current bike is rocking a pair of lyrics up front and a super deluxe coil out back.
I still remember watching Tread for the first time as a 14yo kid. To me that was and still is the ultimate road trip and is what really got me into mountain biking. 20 years later I’m still at and can’t wait to see watch Tread with my son when he arrives and we can start shredding together.
Love the throwback content stuff. My first Rockshox was a Judy SL in an Gary Fisher Superfly 29’er. Than came many Argyle’s, Pike’s, Yari’s and Lyrik’s. Now riding with the 2023 Pike Ultimate forks.
I am a similar age to you Daddy and grew up with the evolution of Rockshox . Amazing and the only fork to buy by and large until Fox come along. Other than some Mazzochi Z1 it was all I used until the early 2000s of which I had Fox forks. However I will agree Rockshox are one of the most iconic and important things that ever happened to mountain biking and continue to evolve and push the boundaries of technology. Great video down memory lane. Thanks , I REALLY enjoyed this one.
That was a great little history lesson about the awesome brand RockShox. ☝🏾 Take the cheapest mountainbike you can buy and the first thing you wanna do is, swap those crappy forks that usually on those kind of bikes for the cheapest Rockshox you can find and now look at the bike. Even if it is an hardtail. RockShox rock 🤙🏾. Always has, always will be for me. ✌🏾
Doddy nailed the RockShox logo. It was so iconic and it caught your eye. As soon as you saw it you knew you were dealing with a higher end bike.
I'd been away for a year from Santa Cruz to go to Portland for culinary school in '94 when I got my first set of OG Judys with the plastic damper cartridges. They lasted one ride and I replaced them with the alloy ones in the apartment living room and rode on into the future. Later, back in Santa Cruz I was a member of The ABS race team and on and off employee of Another Bike Shop. Back then Rock Shox was about six? blocks down Swift street on the right so the team literally got the product; off the ship, off the truck, put the pros forks in the mail, then driven up the block to delivery at the shop. I got my first DHO before Steve Peat did. I never went as fast mind you, but First!
Then I became obsessed with the pro only single crown DHO that was a pro only slalom fork with the 20mm axle DHO lowers on a single crown Judy DH platform. So I grabbed/bought every trash bin DHO and Judy DH and JudyXL and never again had a quick release fork. I still have a few sets and actually got my only magazine cover rocking a pair doing an x up abubica. The new Psylos were in the shop with damper problems.
U,turn was my favorite rockshox feature. Going from 140 too 100mm on my brodie was amazing
Sounds cool,I'm gonna go search for that beast
My first air fork was a Rockshox Recon. Abosolutely loved it and it was far better than the stock Suntour coil fork that came on my first 'mountain' bike. Then I bought a full suspension, and put the Recon on that, and it's still on that bike to this day.
I still try to run Rockshox suspension on my bikes. My hardtail has a 35 on it, but my full sus that I bought recently came with a 36 Elite and DHX2 Factory on it. I would've replaced the shock on it with a Super Deluxe but I found a really good deal on a Float X2, and I hope to replace the fork with a Zeb.
Both of my riding buddies have Yari forks and Deluxe shocks on their bikes. One of them had a 2006 Lyrik on his old bike, which was actually still really good.
One of your best videos yet, Doddy! Genuinely an incredible job telling the story.
I still remember my first salvage yard rebuild and finding a used Judy to replace the rigid fork on a Trek 820. I was over the moon. Seeing that Rock Shox sticker on my bike made me feel like I could drop in on the Grand Canyon.
I do like this kind of video showing evolution over the years and focusing on one manufacturer or type of product. The mid to late 90’s and early 2000’s was my era so good to see this stuff again.
Just received a rock shox Domain for my bike!!! Can’t wait to install and hit the trail. It got such great reviews I felt it was a good choice. Awesome vid!!! Brings back a lot of great memories 👍🤘
My very first Rock Shox was a Judy XLC, which I bought as a schoolboy with a holiday job. At that time it cost under 1000 Marks in Germany. Since then I have only used Rock Shox and have always had great experiences with the products and the service. Today I ride a Nomad V4 with the ZEB on 180 mm. Always the best decision for me and will certainly remain so!
Great video, also great seeing old pics from doddy's MBUK days too!
Great video, thanks. 👍 My first RS fork was Recon 351 with U-turn 85-130mm. By the way, you didn't mention about U-turn and Motion Control systems in the video, imo great innovations by RockShox as well.
Late to the party here but I thought I'd add that RockShox iconic logo... is actually a riff off of Vision Street Wear's logo. Still cool, but you know derivative and all that. Great video!
Doddy, you are a bit wrong what the versions of the initial Pike are concerned. There was a coil U-Turn, an air U-Turn and the Dual Air, I have the latter. 454 stood for something else, it was the top version with all the adjustments and the hollow crown, the 426 had all of that minus the light crown and the 409 had fewer external adjustments. The cool thing, though, is for what those numbers stood. In that era, RockShox used the displacement number in cubic inches of some legendary muscle car engines from the 60's and 70's. The 454 is the legendary ”Rat Motor” that graced the '70 Chevelle, the 426 stands for the legendary Hemi from Dodges and Plymouths and 409 was the Chevy engine that the Beach Boys wrote a song for. We also had the 351, which was the Ford Cleveland engine from the Boss Mustang, and the 318, a Chrysler small block that found its way on the Dart, Duster, Valiant and Barracuda. Oh, and the 302 small block, from the Trans-Am Mustangs. I also believe there was a 335 Recon OEM on certain bikes and that must be another Ford, bur not as cool as the ones above. This is one of my favourite MTB easter eggs! Cheers!
I've been planning to get new Fox suspension but you make me want to go with Rockshox when I hear you rave about the history and performance you've experienced.
I had the Judy SL on my 90s Haro Escape hardtail. Loved that bike.
Nice! That's such an awesome fork!
My first race bike was the exact GT Zaskar Competition Series that you showed in this video. Loved that bike. The Judy elastomer bumpers obviously had their issues, but in the day, they were the shocks to have. Amazing stuff. Thanks for putting this video together, it is a great trip down memory lane.
I’m an old school guy. H-Ball and Juli are legends. Juli is the OG badass queen! 👑
The cool thing is, I’ve met the guy who invented the suspension on a mountainbike! Here in the Netherlands, he made the fork after having it on his dakar motorcycle! Pretty cool 😎
I love how Doddy has color coordinated his outfit and bike to match the surroundings! Apart from that, a great little history lesson. Keep it up!
Quadra was my first suspension fork as well. It came on the first new bike I had ever bought at the time which was a Trek 930 single track. I quickly upgraded to mag 21's though. Currently riding a lyrik. Love the nostalgia in this video! Made me look through my old pile of mountain bike action and mbuk mags from back in the day. Well done on this video Doddy 👏👏 thank you ✌🤙
I have Totem spring 180 2013 and Sector Soloair 150 , and they are still great and works fantastic.
A fantastic watch, thanks! I think you missed Tomac in there with Furtado but agree that all others were icons of their time and forever more with MTB
Doddy as always another great video I absolutely love when you dive deep and show us history of mountain biking
RockShox has such an interesting story we couldn't not tell it! It's crazy to see the development of their products over the years. Thanks for the support! 👍
I started with the Judy, love the Pike and Lyrik. Most of my Mtb life I’ve ridden Rockshox.
Great video, learned something again. They were cool back in the day. My favourite was the SID SL with gold stanchions and sparkle blue sliders. However, the soul got sucked out if the company when they were bought by SRAM as it happens with every company SRAM buys. The OEM business got most important and the forks went black and grey. Remember the time when frame colours followed Rock Shox colours? Also no more spares and service for end users which makes everything SRAM a no go for me.
Doddy, we need a gmbn tech on the Intend suspensions ! Sweet please !!!
Thanks so much for this vid. My first true mountain bike had a blue and white indy SL, and finally i was part of the club at 15 years old.
My first and current rockshox fork is a Judy gold RL, which I upgraded to from a suntour xcm 30. Such a great upgrade
Great vid, love these docu style vids. I love what this brand has done for the industry, my first suspension fork was a Quadra10, and at the time Primal Scream were in the charts with get your "Rocks" off single the 90s were a great time for bikes products and development. Though whilst working in a typically rainy West of England bike shop that sold and serviced RockShox in their earlier years, I regularly had to pour water from the fork stanchions before most services and this was prior to power washes being a thing. Because of this I personally chose (after my 2nd set of short travel elastomer forks = Pace RC35) the European Marzocchi air/oil forks for all my bikes due to the better fork seals for our climate and their motorbike pedigree. I still run Bombers on my eBike, but now seriously lust after some Ohlins now that Fox own Marzocchi and i expect development will be focused on the drier climates as it has a larger customer base.
Nice one doddy loved this episode one of my favourite brands rock shox, keep up the good work 🤘🤘
Glad you enjoyed it, Pete! RockShox has such a rich and interesting history. We really enjoyed sharing their story. 👍
The Pike is the fork. Not too pricey but can tackle Xc through to enduro very happily. Absolutely the perfect fork.
2013 PIKE redefnied enduro MTB and it's been a benchmark for a decade.
Rock Shox rock 🤘 Even managed to buy an old dealership light up sign a few years back. It’s got pride of place in the front room :)
Judy XC then SID hydra air and now a futureshock e100
That sign must look amazing in your front room! One of those would look insane in the Tech set! 👊
I did a test ride on a Merida Al-BON-TECH back in very early 90s... i always thought they were Judy's but not so sure anymore. Regardless they bottomed out and i had a hysterical OTB... i rode rigid for a few years after that, including first Grundig World cup in norway until my 20 year hiatus. Started riding agian now in 2016, still have rigid bikes, but i also have a full sus with RS super deluxe on which i love to bits. Thanks for an awesome lookback Doddy, very well done!
My first fork was a Jett back in 2000, followed shortly by a hand-me-down Judy from a friend. After that, a Pike RCT3 Solo in 2016, and now a 2021 Pike Ultimate. I'll admit, I do prefer the feel of my EXT and Fox forks, but RS will always hold a special place in my heart.
I have rockshox xx series front and rear on gt zaskar carbon 2011. Although people have newer bikes, I can still out perform them. This bike has been a treasure to ride with Xtr 9000 brakes + gears. Admitadly. I service my bike every month. Ceramic speed bearings throughout and white industries cld hubs. Yeah I love my bike.
Love my Rock Shox carrier bag, use it every day for the last 30 plus years.
I remember meeting the engineer that designed the Judy........Dave the Judy Guy is what they called him. My favorite RS fork was the 2001 SID SL and a PUSHED Tuned Revelation
This was an awesome history of my favorite suspension components! Thanks Doddy!🤘
I cycled by you on the FoD Freeminers trail when you were filming this video, ironically on my fully rigid Marin. I don't own anything suspension and don't know if I ever will; maybe because I'm old and seem to be content cycling the red & blue trails with little inclination to ride the faster, jumpier downhill trials that would necessitate suspension. However, I found the video interesting.
More suspension manufacturers need sag guides printed on the stanchions.... Beautiful little touch
My first Rockshox was a Psylo and now I am enjoying a pike on my trail bike and a Zeb in my enduro Bike and a Boxxer on my DH bike great show 👍
Funny how the biggest improvement with the early mtb forks was how much front braking was improved over a rigid fork.
95 Rock Shock carbon Judy tapered, specialized stump jumper hard tail matrix frame. 2004 Rock Shock cid Santa Cruz Blur XTR build, 2022 Rock Shock ZEB 29 after market Luna X2. Cheers from Northern California!!!
Still have my Giant xtc with Rock Shox Sid world cup. Great ride, from 2006, love it. Brilliant vid Doddy. Very interesting mate. 🤟👍
judy xc back in 2019 when i converted my fully rigid specialized hardorck and then confirmed the headtube was cracked so didnt have them long before braking the bike down to be sold as parts and chucked the frame in the bin (well local tip/recycling)
I had old Tora (~2012), SID (~2007), and Reba (~2017). Non of them worked properly. I tried a Fox fork and it blew my mind. I might have been unlucky with RS, but now I can finally feel that something absorbing the hits.
PS: Oh, and I bought the cheapest RS fork (Judy) this year. It is 2,5 kg, but I think this fork actually works.
My first and current rockshox is the tora u turn coil. Old but it does the job perfectly for my needs.
My first set of Rockshox was the Quadra that came on my 1993 GT Ricochet, and I'm currently running the Reba (and the reverb) on my Sonder Broken Road Pinion.
Who wouldnt love some brand that gives you top end equipment, spare parts and money for promoting them...
I love my rockshox fork, and I’m not being paid by them. It clearly states this is a paid promotion at the start of the video. It’s not like they are praising some shit company. Rockshox is one of, if not the best, mtb suspension manufacturer. Quit whining, they need to make money somehow. It’s not like TH-cam pays them millions per month.
Then don't watch if it bothers you sooooo much
@@KimballPrecision I prefer rockshox to fox because I always find it more simple to find the sweet spot
Yeah sure, i bet they sponsored him as a kid too where he made his first experiences with the brand...
And doesn't charge £1200 for a run of the mill enduro fork. Fox needs to take note.
RockShox shipping also very cheap and rather crap forks and shocks on very cheap bikes just has left a cheap brand feel on the name (even though the high end stuff is good). Ages ago made a mistake of buying such a bike. Switching to a new bike with Fox suspension (although way more expensive) was such a difference that I have never looked back to RockShox.
Yall smash this outta the park on this one👍👍👍...side note..i live right down the road from can creek 🤙🤙
That's awesome! Must be a cool spot to ride?
My first RockShox was that beautiful Blue, 60mm SID, which came on my 1998 Diamond Back V8. Wonderful shock which I wore out the bushings. Race season was going so I replaced the SID with a Duke. My V8 is still a fun ride. My two Salsa's have SID & YARI Rockshox.
My first Rock Shox were also some quadras that I put on my Orange C16R
Wow that was a great history lesson!!💯 🔥. Getting at sid for my new xc carbon race frame. Pumped! First time I've personally never had rockshox before, suntour and fox and rigid. I know that new SID is sooooo sick!!
I've been waiting for this video for a while, keep it up!
Still remember the coverage of Diablo and thinking the future was coming down the pike (oddly enough, no pun intended). basically doubling the travel most of us had at the time and just imagining the worlds that would become available. that it seems almost quaint now is even more enjoyable
I want to ride MTB once, too. I think about how fun it will be.
i had a judy xc white and red with yellow elastomers back in about 97 on my merlin,my first mtb loved it.
And then, many, many years after RockShox made its first fork, Fox came along and made RockShox a second choice fork.
Haha, true story.
I used to think that, then after the 3rd over damped, over priced 36 nearly knocked my teeth out, I got the new Zeb. Compared to the 38 PE on my mates YT, it's like a motocross fork, by far the best fork I've had. To be fair though Fox can be great but they way they come as standard means they almost always need a re-tune to work anywhere close to what they can. Now a firm 3rd choice for me after Ohlins and RS.
@@robhughes645 I only been riding Fox, but got my first Ohlins DH38 for my new build. I am curious how the Ohlins feels. I never liked Rockshox (didn't try the Zeb though).
Yeah, first rockshox were Quadra 10s fitted on an Orange Clockwork in the early 90s. Revolutionary.
Yellow Judy's with 80mm travel in 2000 to a pair of Zeb ultimates now, wish we had them back then 😊
Had some cream and red Indy XC on my first MTB, 1997 Gary Fisher HooKooEKoo, then a pair of Judy TT on a Muni Mula, which were like a pogo stick!😂
The first really good mountain bike fork I bought was the Argyles you mentioned. Had them on a Kona Stuff. Currently got a ‘19 Trek slash with the Yari up front. I believe it’s fairly similar to the Lyrik and you can upgrade the damper to further enhance it, though it’s actually pretty good for an average rider like me anyway!
Those rubber boots for the stanchion are very practical. I wonder, where I can buy those things for my coil-spring fork?
Great video! You made my Sunday Morning!
I was amazed when i tried new black Pike years ago, it was so much better than competition at the time.
Doddys always got the craziest watches
I Just Installed A Pike 150RC .... WOW EXCELLENT FORK 😎Glad I Bought It
Lol you got 420 k ... subscribers. Let's celebrate accordingly :D
was the RockShox logo not a copy of Vision streetwear..? who was first?
What's a VHS Cassette? Is that the new drivetrain gear we all need?!?!?
I always wanted rock shox when I was a kid but my Kona was rigid. Now I have a Reba RL she’s pretty smooth.
In my experience,Rock Shox is more lively than Fox,the Pike and Boxxer are hard to beat,which definitely makes Rock Shox my go to suspension brand.I appreciate the Manitou Dorado ,Marzzochi simplicity and affordability,as well as Fox products,but Rock Shox is number one.
I see Rockshox and SRAM combining on the drivetrain. That flight attendant may end up offering an auto-gear system, changing up the cassette when it senses cadence dropping or load increasing and it will likely learn with the rider.
Doddy I live that Jersey you rocking in this video! Going to have to buy me one!
You should! Find them on shop.gmbn.com :)