BMW R1250GS 1st Year Owner's Review
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- Now had the BMW R1250GS for a year (2nd November 2019) and this is my summary of what's gone on in that year. How I've found the bike, what I like, what I don't like and how much the 7,075 miles has cost me. All comments welcome
Hi All
Below are various links to kit I use or items referenced in this video.
These are amazon.co.uk (United Kingdom) links and clicking through and purchasing does earn me a small commission and costs you nothing extra.
I'd be really grateful if you are buying any of these if you used the links and help support the channel.
Thank you
Nick
Accessories on (or used for) My R1250GS
Horn
Denali Soundbomb Horn - amzn.to/2qUA4Ni
Battery Charger (Dual Standard Connect and Canbus - Fits Din Socket to charge)
Optimate 4 - BMW Canbus Edition - amzn.to/2phUAXN
Din/USB Twin Outlet Adapter
Optimate Dual USB Charger - 3300mA DIN Plug - amzn.to/2CJEl99
Tank Bag
Givi ST602 Sport Tanklock Bag - amzn.to/2CGK13G
Tanklock Ring for above (R1200/1250GS) - amzn.to/2QmYXvR
Motorcycle Dryer
Bruhl MD1400 1400W Motorcycle Dryer - amzn.to/33NGA79
Protection
ACF50 Rust Protector (with buddy bottle, aerosols are poor) - amzn.to/2NKL5tJ
Clothing I wear
Crash Helmet
Shoei Neotec II - amzn.to/2rKw8zk
Waterproof Jacket (Over Rukka Textile)
Tucano Urbano Nano Rain Jackket - amzn.to/2NNCnLe
Waterproof Trousers (Over Rukka Textile)
Tucano Urbano Nano Rain Trousers - amzn.to/33ZCed6
Equipment I use to film videos
Main Helmet Camera
Go Pro Hero 7 Black - amzn.to/2CKUmvo
Mirror Mounted (rear-facing) Camera
SJ Cam SJ4000 - amzn.to/377slwc
Fixed Front and Rear Cameras (supplementary footage)
Innovv K2 Dual Camera Kit - amzn.to/2CJAngU
Adapter needed to add supplimentary mics to GoPro Hero 5/6/7/8
GoPro Microphone Adapter - amzn.to/378aSU8
Case for mounting GoPro and Mic Adapter
Ulanzi Multi-purpose GoPro Case - amzn.to/32JIkgA
BOTH MICS below have leads for Mobile Phone (to use GoPro Adapter with these you need a TRS to TRRS Adapter)
Rode Phone Accessory (TRS to TRRS Adapter) - amzn.to/2CHKJh1
Helmet Microphone (needs GoPro Adapter) and Tie-pin mic Indoors
Aufgeld Lavalier Microphone - amzn.to/375WVpX
Indoor Microphone (GoPro and Phone Cameras)
Rode Micro Compact - amzn.to/2KlXUZn - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Thank you for this Nick, much appreciated as a prospective GS buyer.
My brother was a customer of Mike Wheeler’s back in your time there, he never owned a car, rode motorcycles seven days a week from 16 till his seventies clocking up terrific mileages, I remember seeing 114,000 on one of his bikes.
Thanks for the comment Roger. I probably serviced something he had then!! Ride safe
Thanks Nick. I am in the same position as you. Have come back to motorcycling after 30 years away. Eased back into it on a small bike but now seriously looking at a R1250GS and doing my research at the moment. Your videos have been most helpful.
Good luck in your research and ride safe 👍🏻
This is an outstanding video, Nick. Thank you for sharing your knowledge...from a perspective of a mechanically aware rider. The cost breakdown and pros/cons were very insightful. Keep up the great videos.
Glen Kitzman welcome along Glen and thanks for the comment and feedback
Thank you NIck - I am planning to return to motorcycling after a long hiatus and am seeking to get a 1250GS. This video was excellent. Thank you.
Cheers Colin. It won’t disappoint I know 👍🏻 Ride safe
Been thinking of getting one. Have seen many positive comments on the bike everywhere. I'm convinced. Just need to get the wife convinced as I already own 2 bikes which I use daily. Good video. Well done.
Thanks Marco, Bikes are a collection, not replacements....good luck and ride safe
Hello from South Africa. Great review, Numbers are the truth. I bet your pleasure is greater than 30p per mile.
Hi Peter. It was. Moved off that now to an adventure 👍🏻
What a professional, well planned, well thought through and well executed review of the R1250GS TE. It's a few years old now, but perfect for me as I've just bought my first GS, a 2019 R1250GS TE in cosmic blue with 24k miles on the clock. If you still own your GS as reviewed, I'd be very interested to get your updated thoughts. Thank you for your quality material.
No worries. Glad you enjoyed it. I’ve not got it still and have been through an adventure and now a K1600. I would highly recommend any of the GS’s. For me I preferred the GSA but that was personal around further road presence, top loading panniers and carrying half of Saudis Arabia’s petrol production on board. Granted it was heavier but for my use perfect. 👍🏻
Thanks for your reply Nick. Much appreciated. A mate of mine has bought the GSA, I bought the GS TE, but it's been kitted out with pretty much what you get on the Adventure with the crash bars and panniers. So it too has a lot of road presence. We're planning a road trip from the south of England into northern Spain to ride the Pyrenees in the Spring. We think we've invested in good tools for the job 👍
@@benenden360 perfect bike for road trips for sure. I’ve done the Pyrenees on the adventure, Scotland and wales on the GS (covid restricted), Germany on the adventure and last year Norkapp (Top of Norway) and the Pyrenees (again) on the K1600. You’ll never tire of the Pyrenees for sure 👍🏻
If you are planning riding in the winter, I can thoroughly recommend the Givi hand guard extenders, which deflect significantly more cold wet air from your hands than the small BMG hand guards. They cost around £80 for a pair.
Yep, I agree for sure. I try to avoid rain (don't really feel too much cold), but it's tough all the time. I will get up to M/C Live at NEC this month I hope and have maybe a few investments to make. Thanks for commenting
Found this very useful, thanks. Just test ridden a 1250GS TE Exclusive, loved it and now speaking with dealer about purchase etc. Have the other videos lined up when it comes to fitting extras.
Hi Mark. My mate Sean has that very bike and he loves it over many precious others. We used his bike for the eBay accessory fitting video
Great video Nick,.Lots of excellent info, as I am a prospective GS buyer. Cheers
The bike certainly is a great all-rounder and the figures whilst a year or so old now will still be similar. Good luck 👍🏻
Nick your clips have been great been watching you for a few months now you have great advice and products for your bike enjoy watching it all. I just got my 2021 triple black two days ago and thanks to you I've got some great ideas to set up my bike.
Thanks mate
Macca
Thanks Macca. Superb bike. Enjoy it. Ride safe 👍🏻
Had my R1250GSA Since March this year and I’ve covered nearly 9000 miles that included a week in Austria in June , I absolutely love this bike my bike is the HP version
stuart clark hi Stuart and thanks for commenting. The HP is a great looking bike and that’s some mileage in 6 months. If I changed I would consider the GSA for the greater range and even better ‘presence’ Ride safe
Hi Nick enjoyed the video, I too have a 1250 GS Exclusive version, and I have to agree totally with your version of the pro's and cons of ownership, however, I really love this bike!! I did order mine with comfort seats and find them very good and when ordered as a factory option are a reasonable price. I have changed the screen on mine to a Puig touring screen, the difference was amazing and increased my pleasure in riding this bike probably the best accessory I put on mine!! I also agree totally about the inner bags. Love the detail on the running costs, it's surprising how it all mounts up.
Thanks for the comments Peter, I will take a look at the screen. I'm only annoyed at the comfort seat truly as I would then be 'fully loaded'. You may have heard me hint at the 25mm risers for the handlebars. I find myself 'stooping' over on long rides and have to tell myself to SIT UP! I think if that works out, at 6ft 1in, the screen will become even more relevant. Ride safe
The Denalli D4 are a great option, but below the beak they don´t look too great. Try them below on the engine guard. I have mine there, they work as well as on the top and (at least to me) the bike looks prettier. Another idea: try the Denali rear brake lights. These ones do make you stand out for those that come from behind.
Ricardo Fernandes Silva thanks Ricardo. I have some D2’s destined for engine bars. I may look at rear lights but currently using that circuit in the CanSmart for my Innovv Cameras
Thanks for the great review. Torn between the GS and Tiger 1200 XRT. XRT currently has free luggage/bags/fender extender/ headlight cover and lower crash bars as a promo which is grat value. Looks like they are going to change the model! Missing from GS in my opinion are backlit switches and heated seats which are standard on the Tiger. I just love the look of the 1250 exclusive so the heart may win over the head! Thanks for posting
Bri I’m biased of course, but there’s a reason the GS wins certainly European sales each year by a mile. I’m a gadget man so get the illuminated switches, but honestly I never really look at the switches. It’s a ‘muscle memory’ thing. Heated seat? I’m a warm soul and rarely use the heated grips and heated seats in the car make me feel slightly weird! My mate Sean however, seems to have heated grips on at 30 degrees!!! You must make your mind up and I’ve never ridden the Tiger but you’ll love the GS
Hello Nick, found your channel by chance, and like you have been riding an R1200 GS but for three years , will be taking delivery of a new R1250 Exclusive ready for the first March 2020, blimey I am getting old now, 73 April 2020, but still fit and able to carry on motorcycling, been a biker since 1965, great video, I have subscribed and the bell is waiting to call me back to see what is happening, Have a great Christmas and a happy and healthy new year, look forward to becoming friends and who knows meet up one day?
Derek Holme hi Derek. Welcome along. Ride safe
I’ve just got one about 3 weeks ago and I love it I’m in Australia and I had the first service in two days of ownership 1000km
I Enjoyed your video and I to have a Hamburger with the lot mines black with gold pin stripes and we fitted the gold wheels from a HP GSA
chocswan I was in Australia when the GS launched. I’d maybe had mine a few weeks and the dealer I spoke to in Melbourne was going to see the announcement that week. Ride safe
Hello Nick, well here I am 11 months after my initial comment and I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on a GS 1250. I'm still on the fence on the GS or GSA, but I got a few more months...well hopefully after COVID since I have to fly in to Germany to pick it up.. I'm sure I'll settle on the GSA just because it comes with all the bells and whistles.
Thanks for all your videos, I'm enjoying the reviews.
That’s great news. We’re all wishing Covid goodbye. I’m desperate to get abroad. Either the GS or GSA will be wonderful. I love my Adventure but I also miss ‘Bertha’ 👍🏻
Yet another cracking video Nick.
Thanks again for taking time out to create this non biased long term review. Ride safe mate.
Mike Georgiou thanks Mike. Pretty bewildered people find my ramblings interesting but getting great feedback so I’ll plough on. Ride safe too 👍🏻
Nick, this is a great video and thanks for that.
BMW Motorrad Sales Advisor should learn from this video.
Keep sharing with us.
Thanks Faisul. Glad you liked it 👍🏻
Thanks Nick, a bike that's on my radar so this was extremely helpful.
Cheers Paul. Obviously I’d thoroughly recommend
Hi Nick cracking video your so right about being seen and heard while on your bike the Denali Lights are a must along with the Soundbomb Horn maybe in your next video you might demo these two vital additions you have mounted on your GS1250 look forward to more videos take care.
Hi Charlie. I’ll look into that 👍🏻
Hi Nick:Thx for the info. In a review however I would expect a bit more about handling, engine (camshifting?), suspension,corneringABS,throttle and how they are linked, quickshifter instead of side issues.Maybe a good idea to put that in the title: like"Review r1250gs accesoires"
PS:Always on guard if crossing other bikes, if they don`t use the opposite (my) lane cornering, like the drivers in this video @11:07.(not talking about your passing manouver). Even if there is nothing in sight, it`s a very bad habbit .At these very moderate speeds and wide corners , there was no need at all, it actually never is. But as a accesoires review interesting, grtz and have a fun ride.
Thanks for the comments and critique Tony. The shots and specifically the one you refer to was on our 2019 tour to Scotland. The camera is the front mounted INNOVV camera mounted below the front beak. This gives you a very low view of the road ahead. I can assure you we can and could see for a very long way. Equally all of us are connected by intercom. I take your point of course but conditioned allowed some fun and the view was better than perceived from that camera 👍🏻
Hi Nick ! I‘m from Austria and owned the previous generation LC 1200 Rallye. My new one, an 1250GSA will arrive at the dealer in February:) Yesterday i stumbled over a bunch of videoclips on youtube about tickeling, loud noise coming from the cylinderheads. My BMW technican, a very trustworthy, professional one, told me the 1250 Motor sounds a bit louder wenn its warm. He also said that the new motor has viewer issius than the first ones from the 1200LC had, only one software update was releast. Did you hear about that „noise problem“ ? Some say they have given then bike back to the dealer.....
Kilometer Fresser ho from Austria and welcome. Nope. Heard nothing about more noise at all and certainly no one giving bike back!!! I’ve only seen positive comments about the 1250 motor and mine has been very good, smoother and more grunt. So far. It’s superb. I think you are in for a treat and although you likely took a test ride, some considerable differences from an original 1200LC. My friend has the last air cooled GS1200 and he’s staggered the difference I have heard of people changing tyres as they were very loud but that’s personal choice and many people follow brands. Ride safe
Nick Hodge THANKS ! Have a great year and as we say in Austria: Dont forget: rubber side down :)
I would agree 100% with your comments about a lack of protection on the GS and find it grates a bit to then have to spend hundreds of pounds adding bits on. I've also got Touratech hand guard extensions which help keep your hands warmer and drier plus a crud catcher to stop the bottom of the engine getting plastered. I went down the hexezecan route and have LED auxiliary lights and a mini sound bomb horn (and left the original on so together they are loud enough for me) I'm actually thinking of a 1250 RS at the moment as having had 2 GS TEs now I can't really warrant swapping my 67 plate GS for what is apart from the engine the same bike. I thought your cost breakdown was very extensive...just don't show your wife and even more important don't include depreciation as that's a real eye watering figure. When your insurance is due check out thebikeinsurer website as I've both got my insurance through them and used the renewal quote to beat my existing insurer down too. Great video by the way😉
adrianbarrie13 thanks for the detailed comments Adrian. Hoping to do a video in the new year with eBay sourced equivalents of mudslinger et el on a mates GS. Watch this space. I had a 1200 for a few months. You’ll be surprised how different then fine feels I think
Fantastic video on practical economical aspects of ownership of the bike.
Thank you 👍🏻
That is a very handsome table behind you!
Glenn S Ha Ha Glenn. I fear it looks finer than it is. It’s actually two tables masquerading as one.
Nick it was very long video but somehow I have managed to finish almost like 25-26 mins. It was really enlightening video I liked it. I think it would be much interesting if u put much more video footage while riding to the explanation videos. By the way i do not have r1250gs. Thumbs up
Thanks Cihan. I felt it was at the limit time wise. Good comment to include more ride footage. 👍🏻
Thanks for this Nick, really informative.
Bartonboy thanks for the encouragement and comment
Thank you sir - very nicely done. Looking to buy a GSA in the spring.
Timothy Bennett ...and you’ll love it. Ride safe
Thanks for the useful video Nick. I am also about to return to motorcycling following a long absence and a used 1200GS TE will be my intended purchase. Great information on the accessories purchased and I also watched with interest your other video regarding the Vario pannier system and liners. Keep up the good work. Richard.
Thanks Richard and ride safe. Not sure your gap but mine was over 35 years. More cars, many doing idiotic things, road conditions generally *much* worse. Everything about bike *much* better though (Tyres, Brakes, Handling, Electronics). Enjoy
Nick Hodge - 20 year absence in my case. Long enough for road conditions to have changed dramatically. Booked some refresher training with my local BMW school. Thought that was wise.
Richard Oakley Good job Richard. Never enough training. Police do one too for expenses
Maaan, it was just a beautiful video to watch. Good job you!
Thanks for the comment
Great stuff Nick, thank you. I am a returning rider, looking to purchase a 1200GS...
You’ll love it Damien. Don’t rush it, roads are busier so theirs more idiots but the bikes are so much safer. Brakes, handling, tech, etc. Ride safe 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Thanks Nick. I had an R100RS as my first motorcycle in 1978. Have not ridden since '81, but have had three days at BMW Rider Training which was an incredible experience. I feel many of the things you discussed in your clip regarding machine presence, visibility and other safety related considerations. Coincidentally I was at North Oxford Motorrrad on Sunday and met Josh.
Damien Ford it’s truly a small world. You done everything right with that base training 👍🏻
Great vidio Great review Great voice
Thanks Klaus. Glad you liked it 👍🏻
Late to the party on this video. Great presentation on a bike I'm looking at. Thanks from Apache Junction, Arizona !!
Never a problem being late to the party as long as there’s still beer and food left! You got something out of it so hope it helps 👍🏻
Great point!! Thnx
Superb video Nick
Glad you liked it Lee 👍🏻
hi Nick. did you do a video on when you rode the k1600? if you have kindly link it. great video as usual. ride safe bud.
Zunaid Kajee Hi Zunaid. It was wrapped up in my 2nd service video. Not so much a review as a short ride and a few comments. It too is a fine bike but much lower than the GS but felt almost electric with the six cylinders. Thanks for the compliment and ride safe too
@@nickhodgeUK A great review. I Had my 1600 Bahnstormer 6 years. What an effortless tourer that was, but a bugger to shift in and out of our garage on the sloping drive ! I have a Tiger 1200 now for touring but just bought a BMW R1250R. What a lovely sweet engine.
Ian Rodie Hi Ian. It is a nice and for such a lump, smooth engine and the weight being low down helps with handling too. Hopefully that transfers the the R too?? I have a constant battle with my bike as my entire yard as you can see is gravel. Eek!! Ride safe
Like your video...
The trouble with BMW is their cost cutting is blatantly unethical. I have owned 4 BMW 3 series coupes and now a 440i and upon taking delivery of the 440 I felt super cheated and decieved.
So that is why in principle I will avoid BMW as much as possible.
Back to your bike; I can see how they cut cost by omitting certain necessary accessories to either cut cost or insure your return for expensive service.
Do they make it impossible for the owner to do their own service? This could be a great deal of savings, not to mention satisfaction, to service it yourself.
I am afraid I no longer trust BMWs, or for that matter European bikes and cars.
For me it is Kawasaki for now...
M Aldridge thanks for the comments. I fear servicing is beyond most home mechanics on anything now as there are so many electronics requiring expensive equipment. I shall certainly do more maintenance when out of warranty. As you will see from the video, we were mechanics in 70’s and 80’s. diagnosing and repairing by experience. For sure now most are only fitters. Fitting what the diagnostic equipment tells them needs to. In defence however, stuff is generally infinitely more reliable
Another great vid. I agree about the frame plugs, mud slinger ect. Also my oil light is the same. Only seen it say ok once. I've got the 1250 ADV TE Exclusive. Done almost 2k on it now. I think they should of back lit the switch gear & maybe heated seats. I love it though. I also fitted Denali's. I went for D7's & a sound bomb. I had to have a new fuel cap/flap last week. vid on my channel. I also bought inner bags. Just got them today. Keep up the good work with the vids Nick..
Sorry, missed this for some reason. Thanks for the comment
Great review, 7 days until I pick up my gs 1250. I am like a kid waiting for Xmas 🥴
Be very excited. I think you’re in for a treat. Ride safe
Nick, I too have an R1250 GS TE and a Givi tank bag. Do you find that the bag blocks your view of the TFT screen?
Hi Leonard. No. Maybe I’m tall in the body but nowhere near blocking the TFT
@@nickhodgeUK Nick thank you for the prompt reply. My tank bag is the 20 litre bag. I'm 6'. Perhaps a s.aller tank bag would have been better.
@@leonardmcneill7594 sorry Leonard. I thought you meant the Givi bag in one of my other videos. I found this one great. It’s a ‘day’ bag. Holds everything I need to hand. Sunglasses, power packs, GoPro batteries, wallet, phone, visor cleaner, cloth, masks, hand gel and just clips on an off when I get off for coffee or to fill tank 👍🏻
You failed to mention the 4k depreciation, you need to add that into the total. Makes it closer to £1 per mile. I thought these GSs were cheap as you see so many, but they have a poor residual so they are a good second hand buy, provided they have sorted all the issues they had a few years back with can bus failures ect, diff leaks, gearbox problems and cooling impellers dropping off. I presume as a mechanic you knew the risks of buying a BMW? I guess that's why they don't hold their money and theres so many used ones for sale with low miliage.
Anthony Price morning Anthony. Not a fan I see. That too is fine of course. Luckily I’ve had few of those problem in my 1st year. Depreciation however is a necessary evil with pretty much every mode of transport unless you fall on a classic or hold them long enough to become one. Who’d have thought my 1976 £425 RD400 would now be worth £15,000. I guess few buy motorcycles as an investment?
@@nickhodgeUK Well said Nick....If you're going to stress about the cost of depreciation on every bike, car, washing machine, audio system you buy from new then I guess you're better off hanging around 'Bargain Corner" outlets in the hope you'll pick up a quality cast off. Personally I'm fairly sure I only have one life and as short as it is I'm trying to Max out on it. That means buying my dream bike and having my cake when I can eat it! My Exclusive is sat there now in the garage depreciating like hell but just looking at it makes me grin as it brings so much pleasure to me, wheels rolling or not!
Btw....I have the MRA Vario Screen and its transformed the ride comfort. I'm just under 6ft and can easily ride at 50 visor up (with shades) with zero buffetting. Nice concise video again with honest opinions..
Pete Hudson thanks for your opinion and comment Pete. I look at it the same with bikes. With cars, I’ve had some nice ones but currently have a modest VW Golf. To me a car is now a ‘rental’. Like Sky TV
Nice detailed video and I have to agree with most of what you say. I've had my 1250 Exclusive since Feb 2019 (my first ever GS) and its done about 10000 + having been to Sweden/Norway and recently Spain. I've done a wrap on the panniers and top box just to give them the same colour scheme as the bike, and for a bit more scratch protection. Like you I've paid out for a lot of extras. Regarding weather protection, i find it very good with the standard screen (I'm 5' 7") in the high position. Not as fully protective as my old RT which kept me 90% dry even in heavy rain. Re the rear tyre, mines on 10000 miles from new and still have lots of tread on it (Bridgestone A41) which i find amazing. Front tyre changed at 8000.
Mike Dignum Mike. Thanks for the comment. I thought my mileage was pretty good but there are a few commenting with higher. I’m impressed and glad to hear most of my findings are matched. Wrap is interesting. Where do you get that? Ride safe
@@nickhodgeUK The wrap I got on e-bay and shipped over from Italy, but i have heard of some dealers that have the different wraps. Mine cost around £37 and a bought a headlight guard at the same time (clear acrylic) for £18.
Mike Dignum thanks a lot Mike. I’ll take a look
I am considering changing from my 2012 Honda Goldwing to a BMW 1250 RT. I am trying to research what I will find different and what I will miss on my Goldwing if I change. My riding partner no longer rides with me and I find that I am looking for a lighter bike that is easier to maneuver and one that I can ride more of the gravel roads here in Colorado (USA) without the huge weight issue with the Goldwing. Your video is helpful, thank you. I have ridden Goldwings since 1980. Any comments you may have would be appreciated or anyone else who might have made this kind of change in bikes.
Don Riedel hi Don, welcome along. I can see that the ‘wing’ is probably now overkill for you and certainly not dirt track suitable. I would say the 1250RT is not really either. The GS or GSA certainly. If you re looking for a ‘road’ replacement for the Wing I’m sure you’d be happy with the RT. If you want the ability to do some dirt roads too. Then I’d go for the GS. In fact probably the GSA which has the larger tank and in that maybe 80 miles more range??
Interesting feedback, very complete. Thank you.
Didier Marchant glad you viewed it Didier
Hi Nick, thank you for another cool video.
Nice to find about your background!
- On changes on the drivers behaviour, a much bigger problem is people using cell-phones while driving.
- I did notice from the traveling footage, you don't always wave at other motorcyclists? GS bikers... :P
- About your speeding ticket, you were overtaking a vehicle. I would argue that while overtaking a vehicle, you should use the full power of your own vehicle, to perform the maneuver in the shortest time possible, thus safest way possible for everybody. If you are to overtake a vehicle running 5 mph under speed limit, overtaking just under the speed limit will be dangerous.
-Have you had a chance to review your transmission arm inside the rubber covers? I hear many get water inside, and then it really rusts everything in it. Not sure if this still happens on the 1250, it did happen frequently to the 1200s - some drill a drain hole to empty it.
P.S. I still wish motorcycles were this "cheap" in Denmark ^_^ Cheers!
Daniel Lopes Hi Daniel. Thanks for the comments. We generally nod here in the UK or stick our right leg out, so it’s not a GS rider thing. I even find myself doing it in the car!! You see with us driving in the left it would naturally be your right (throttle) hand and that would decelerate the bike quickly. Also, when you are filming and there are many bike the constant tipping in the footage is distracting but I definitely do try. My issue with the speeding ticket is police set up where really you do not expect the speed limit to be as it is. That road is dead straight, out of the village, no entrances and on a down slope, but hey. I broke the law. No real excuse. I will check out the transmission arm. Thanks for the heads-up. After my 2,100 mile Scottish trip I was glad of the shaft. Two were on sports bikes and it was a daily, dirty job to oil the chain. Not for me. Ride safe
@@nickhodgeUK right, now when you leave EU, maybe you could start driving on the right side of the road? ^_^ J/K
I had a Honda Deauville before, the shaft drive was fully closed, in oil, so in 40k km I did on it, there was nothing to be done. Shame BMW dont have a similar system. :) th-cam.com/video/-ub07EkInVY/w-d-xo.html and from Brasil, (you dont need to understand the speech anyway) here you can see a really bad state one: th-cam.com/video/ciF0AgAy6tg/w-d-xo.html
Nice video for sure... I’d say that Bren tuning may have a solution that you should look at doing.
I should do a review of my last 19 years on every GS since, Africa Asia and all of Europe ?
One thing I learnt early is you spend 5 years bolting unnecessary rubbish onto the bike , and five years removing it all.
Unlucky with the speeding ticket. I recieve 3 / 5 annually !
Nigel Collinson you should Nigel. Experience like that can’t be bought. Ride safe and ticket free 👍🏻
Hi Nick im 5ft 8ins with 30 inch inside leg im looking at a GS 1200 GS 1250 is it viable at my height all things considered, I'd be interested in you views.
Thanks in advance
Hi David. Only real way is to try one. Both 1200 and 1250 have low suspension offerings although I think the 1250 has a low frame option too. One ‘complaint’ was you had to be Dutch to ride one. Something I would say is the weight is low with the Boxer so that helps. Get on one. Your dealer will be happy to help. If the 1250 feels too tall I’m lead to believe the GS850 is a fine machine too. There’ll be something, you’re not that short. Good luck!
Brilliant video, very helpful.
Glad you liked it 👍🏻
Brilliant review thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it 👍🏻
One of the finest and most comprehensive reviews I’ve ever seen.Thank you for your efforts in putting this most useful information out there!👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thanks Brian. Glad you enjoyed it
I bought myself an identical bag for my 1250 gs adventure
Davor Vrban hi Davor. Much that they don’t look great I find it just the right size
I am stuck between buying the 1250GS or the 1250GSA. Did you have a similar debate and what made you choose the GS as opposed to the GSA. Thanks
David Soars hi David. No debate. The 1250 in GSA was not out. I’d probably have the GSA given a 2nd choice for the 100 mile extra range. It is a real beast though. Even more than the GS
David Soars I own the 1250 GSA after two standard TEs, it’s slightly bigger but just as good with more range and comfort, it’s a step up, love my Exclusive.
Nick Hodge Thanks Nick and very informative videos. Keep them coming!
Chukky aka Ian Thanks Ian
Taking my GS for its annual service to day going to see if bleeding the brake fluid will sort out that back brake problem
wayne leech if you’re in the UK Wayne I don’t envy you with the weather. Guess you have the same brake travel issue?
It is peeing it down in Swadlincote but my bike was also registered on the 2nd and yes the same brake problem you had
wayne leech bleeding will fix it. Changing the fluid on mine was overkill. Strange it builds that travel. Be interesting to see if it’s a one-off. Ride safe
Hi Nick just to let you know how I got on with my service and the back brake problem I was having.The service was done at pidcotes B.M.W Longeaton it cost £186 for service & brake fluid change and the back brake problem I had is now sorted.They charge me for two cerclips that was missing of the rear foot pegs so check your rear foot pegs it seems to be a regular thing for GS to lose them will keep you informed of any other problems ride safe
wayne leech thanks for that Wayne and taking the trouble. It’s undoubted the brake needs at least bleeding. Whether it need change is debatable. Be interesting to see if it now lasts past next years and is just a one-off
very watchable, i'm on my 3rd gs1200, similar experience though i get around 62 mpg, on tour in northern Spain(go there it's stunning) i got 80+, the bike is used every day
Gary thanks for commenting. Randomly the TFT said 57mpg, but I reset it when I got back from Scotland, so I may have under estimated that a bit, but I've never managed 60, but I do have 25 more BHP (or something like that) ;)
@@nickhodgeUK thanks for taking the time to reply, it depends how you ride, i'm not quick, now subscribed so looking forward to more vids
Brilliant video, thanks.
John Jameson Glad you liked it John. Thanks
nick what a brilliant down to earth video I didn't know some of the things you have just explained has I am thinking about trading in my bmw g310gs and Africa twin for the bmw1250 gs hp im just wondering what the de valuation costs would be, any way thanks for the great video looking forward to any more that you will be posting
bob taylor hi Bob. Unfortunately all these things depreciate. Part of my reason for not drilling holes for accessories and stuff is that I can get bike back to standard and either use accessories if they fit any future bike, or sell them as for sure they’re worth nothing in the bike. I suspect my bike has lost £5,000 in bits first year as the VAT come straight off when it’s second hand for instance. For me it’s just the cost of riding a very good motorcycle... worth it! Ride safe
Good informative video, ive subscribed👍
Jeff Andrews Welcome along Jeff
How much part ex value did they give you at 1 yr old. I traded my 21 1/2 k Rt in a 10 months old and got offered only 11 for it against a new 1250RS
That video is almost a year old so she was coming up two years old and they gave me just over £13k. You can see the full run-down and man-maths in my decision video 😂👍🏻
I guess if you can get past the looks of the thing it’s fine.
Brian looks aren’t everything. So the missus says anyhow
Nick Hodge
She is right,of course, but in this case,good looks make dropping $25 grand + a little easier to take.Purely subjective,of course.
Can you get crash guard on this variant?
There are plenty of aftermarket ones but it doesn’t come as standard as the GSA adventure does. I have Wunderlich ones on mine and there’s a video on my channel
@@nickhodgeUK so you have to pay extra for it?
Yes on the GS they are not fitted but the GSA they are
Do they sound like a bag nails though??
Nope. Should they? 😂
We r not interested in your personal stories, just want to know bike performance please.
🤣🤣 thanks for watching though 👍🏻
Excellent video but What kind of person would thumb down such an informative video.
James, thanks for the comment and as my Grandmother (b 1899, so I can use the word), "There's now't as 'queer' as folk"
@Captain Caveman Maybe, but I guess it may be opinion too, fortunately, most are kind even if critical, which is great
This guy looks like a funeral director. WTF
Thanks for that constructive comment 😂
Nick Hodge lol no offense intended whatsoever.
Dollar Bill none taken. My best mate calls me Uncle Fester 😂
Nick Hodge you are a good man. I can tell.
Thanks for a very interesting and thorough review, Nick. My own ownership experience (7k miles since June 2019 on a 1250GS TE Exclusive) echoes most of what you have said, although so far, I am still running the original tyres (Anakee Adventure) and have not yet had the second service. My bike has had two issues - an error message which resulted in the dealer changing the fuel pump, although no fault was apparent while riding the bike - and a faulty Nav VI which was swapped without any problem.
I have the "comfort seat" as it was already on the bike. It's very comfortable but I can't really say whether or not it's more comfortable than standard....
I have also swapped the screen on my bike to an MRA Vario screen. When I first got the bike I ran it with the seat in low/low setting and the screen was fine. After a long stint I found my legs aching a bit so I lifted the seat to high/high which gives a little more room between hips and knees. This solved the leg issue but meant that the screen was directing slightly turbulent air to the top of my helmet. The MRA screen has solved that and I think it looks fine on the bike. I also added some Givi hand protector extensions for a little more weather protection.
Here's my bike - as of yesterday in the Peak District - i.postimg.cc/LstgYqM9/IMG-5356.jpg
I'm now thinking of adding the Denali lights/horn/cansmart as my next project.
Thanks again for the video.
Richard, wow, thanks for the great feedback. I will look at the screen for sure. One thing I may do on long multi-day rides is alter the seat occasionally as that may help comfort still further. although i do find myself rolling into the tank with low front, high rear. I too will look at slightly larger hand protection and my friend has the givi ones I think. Don't think you will regret the Denali upgrade, your wallet however will. Ride safe
Just spotted that the front cowling is different on the Exclusive from mine. the silver bit with GS1250 on mine is fixed differently, is a different shape, with no 'badge'. Learn something every day ;)
@@nickhodgeUK I have to say I've never spotted that difference before. Can't see any logical reason for the different fitting either.
Richard D Hi Richard and Nick, many thanks for the video and the comments. I totally agree with Richard regarding the MRA Vario screen; I put it on a GS that I had over three years ago and transferred it to a GSA and onto my 1250 GSA HP that I’ve just purchased. It’s a brilliant bit of kit allowing me to ride with visor up in the summer. I also have the Givi hand guard extenders that again are worth having. I’ve just fitted an HP engraved headlight protector for £19 that also looks very good and could potentially save a lot of money. Ride safe gents. Cheers, Andy
Andrew Tofts thanks for chipping in an endorsing Andy. Really useful
Hello Nick, another great detailed video. You helped me out with the installation of the innovv k2 only GS a few weeks ago. Must say it works great and I'm very happy with it. I purched it after seeing your video. I also referred to your front wheel removal video a few days ago. Your very thorough and the video instruction are easy to follow.
Thanks again for your help and look forward to seeing more. Would be very intrested to watch your Scotland video. I absolutely fell in love with the west coast after only discovering a few years ago.
Steve.
Stevie Paynter thanks Steve. Glad stuff helped. Makes it worthwhile. I’m getting complaints from the lads on the time I’m taking to get the video to them but once I have I may adapt it for TH-cam. Ride safe
I bought the MRA vario screen (Like TMF has) and it made a big difference with wind noise. The GS doesn't suffer too bad with wind noise anyway, but the MRA just seems to take it down a notch further. So quiet. Can't recommend it enough and I think it looks great too.
Thanks Siôn. I actually had one for Christmas and need to get around to fitting it, so watch this space!
Great down to earth vids , Nick
Can you please assist me. I have just got a new gs1250 rallye 2022 , my first new bike after 40 years riding .
I find what i can describe as a real howling of noise coming from the bike. I cant be sure where from. It really is annoying , ruining my ride. I have goggled hundreds of times and other owners make so many ( unproven ) suggestions, like tyres, screens, the front beak. Can you help. My tyres are bridgestone. Others blamed Michelin tyres.
This is to date ruining my only new bike experience so far. Any known real fix Nick
Hi David. I’m not really sure. Certainly tyres can make a difference but two of my GS’s had Battlax tyres and I changed one to continental without discernible difference. Maybe ask your dealer if you can borrow a GSA screen. That’s bigger and see if it makes a difference. Have you had a GS before?? Is it different to that?? They’re not the quietest for sure. Ask to try another GS too and compare. Without doubt if it’s spoiling your ride I’d be surprised if there’s not an issue with that bike as most would say they’re hard to beat. Good luck in your quest 👍🏻
Nick, I'm still catching up on your videos - completely out of sequence but no matter. GSA still planned for March New year (2023) - Triple Black, Factory Lowered - I won't be 'off roading' as such and want to be able to plant both feet on the ground and be confident when riding with wife as pillion. Put together list of 'Accessories' to be purchased - Birthday / Christmas presents (Family notified), so just to say 'Thank You' for your commentary, views, and giving my wife and I the pleasure to watch.
Hi Martin. I love the triple black colourway. I loved my Kalamata GSA but the triple black was the only one I’d have swap it for. Just a note with the lowered bike having seen you comment on the Wunderlich toolbox. Be aware that may not be suitable for the lowered bike as I know in extreme circumstances off-road it can contact the splash guard. Since the video they are now marking it with a warning 👍🏻 you’re in for a treat with the GS though. Enjoy
Thank you for this. I have a deposit on a 2022 GS1250 Rallye w nearly every option coming in March. Very helpful.
Glad to help 👍🏻
Brilliant summary thanks, very useful as i am looking to get a GS or R18, do i follow you and get both !
Well I no longer have the GS but it’s a brilliant bike. I preferred my GS Adventure but that was personal. I love the R18 but definitely a second bike for bimbling locally on sunny days 👍🏻
just about to take delivery of an R1250GSA-so an enjoyable review, thank you, which makes me feel good about my decision! Would like to point out though, as I was paying attention..your pannier liners were a present from your wife, so you shouldn't really count those towards the spend on the bike, and you can probably spend another £237.50 (man maths..) :-)
Thanks John. I’ll let her know 😂
I should have whent to the UK for my GS,I perchance an exclusive Gs1250 lowered seat lowered suspension with a premium package, just over 24k in the US.plus the nav was over 900,and on top of that my breaking service was just under 400.🤔
I think not far off the same though Gabriel? It’s about 1.25 USD to 1GBP currently so converted mine was around $23k. Hope you enjoy it though? Ride safe
@@nickhodgeUK I have put about 2k on mine so far no off road do to the face I have crash protection yet but it is a splendid bike to ride.
Thanks for the very informative information. I'm currently riding a Honda Goldwing and a ZZR1400, but the BMW R1250GS is calling me lol.
Thanks for sharing.
2Wheel4Fun I don’t think you’ll regret it. Fascinated by the longevity of the goldwing. I used to work on them in the early 80’s
Thought the gold wing is a couch on two wheels and a GREAT bike I love my 1250 gs all in one bike, some quirk but would wouldn't never be with out GS...I will always have one!!
Glenn S evening Glenn. I agree. I’ve toyed with upping to maybe a K1600, but after all said and done I’m back looking at GSA for the trivial range reason. The GS is a superb all-rounder and if you disagree? ... I suspect you’ve not ridden one?
The GSA is AWESOME! But I figured (lol) my butt is ready for a break after 2hrs of riding.. BMW just figured it out and I believe will always be the leader in this class of bike. It just fits everything I need!. And after my 19 1250gs has its first scratch it will see more off-road here in Tennessee.
Oh yeah I have an Exclusive so I see that scratch just around the corner! Lol.
Hi NickI would totally concur with most of what you said and an excellent review. On the mudsling the last bit of that word "sling" is the most apt as in sling it in the bin a totally useless product. I had one on my current 2018 GS Rallye my wife still got covered in crud and when I looked closer it was rubbing on the swing arm especially when in road mode. I bought a hugger for £29 from China and works a treat and my wife has been kept clean no matter what the weather.
RMG that’s interesting. I find it still splashed around but my biggest fear was the shock absorber which is an expensive bit of kit not accustomed to crud. I am going to look at a hugger for sure though as actually, whatever else they look quite good
Hello Nick and thanks for a very thoughtful review. I was curious to know which brand engine guard are you using?
Reli Tal Hi Reli. They are the Wunderlich ones from Germany. There’s a video on my. channel with the fitting
Hello Nick, hello from New York! really enjoying the channel, I ride an Electra Glide but have always loved the BMW bikes for years. I have been interested in the GS so your videos are incredibly informative. Hope someday to add one to the garage (once the Harley is paid for 😉). Great work and thanks for the great content.
VarosVapor you’re very welcome for sure. Ride Safe
Very thorough and informative. Nice work.
Glad you liked it 👍🏻
It’s an amazing video. I’m very impressed. Thank you for a very honest review.
Thanks for the comment 👍🏻
Nick Hodge Just got myself a R1250GSA yesterday. This video really helped me with the purchase. Thanks :)
Jighiliano enjoy. I know you will and ride safe
really impressed with your accessory selection and their usefulness.
Thanks Luis. All not being used here in the UK in lockdown. Itching to be out. Stay safe
I find it a shame (obviously bmw would loose hundreds of £) but the tft is so fantastic what is stopping them from just integrating the gps into it instead of having a separate unit
Adam Perkins Adam. I would expect it’ll go this way but BMW only make small changes each time. There is Nav in the unit but it’s nowhere near the Garmin Nav IV. It’s an area most vehicle manufacturers have struggled as tech moves much faster than model iterations... you’re sure not wrong though. Ride safe 😘
pls make a video on benelli trk 502x hope its possible
You buy me one I’ll make it 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK im from pakistan you can come here i will arrange it for you 🤣
Nice job Nick - very thorough and analytical.
I agree 100% on weather protection. We dont get quite so much rain here in Aus but 2 years of 1200GS ownership gives me enough data to allow me to concur. I'm constantly amazed how dry I remain even when not wearing rain gear.
auscurrymaster welcome along. Was glad to see they all got very wet in NSW the other day but that’s another far more serious issue. Ride safe
Hi, interested to know if you have any buzzing through the the throttle handlebar? Thanks
BionicFlyer yes but I think most bikes do. I fitted the Grip Buddies but can’t say it’s helped hugely. Glad for the cruise controls
Really good, very thorough video Nick, thank you.
You mentioned what a good purchase the luggage liners were, so do you normally just leave your panniers on the bike when you’re staying in a hotel?
stags7075 thanks for the comment. In general yes. When we stopped in Inverness we had a base so took them off then but they are pretty secure and have a knack to even get them off if you know what you are doing. We try to book hotels with covered parking but I always take my Oxford cover as it folds to nothing. Keeps the bike dry and away from prying eyes too. Hope that answers you question. It’s just lovely to not crash into a hotel with cases and as the week goes in one bag is generally left in pannier or top box as it becomes a laundry box
@@nickhodgeUK Thank you for the reply Nick. It;s good to hear that they are quite secure and saves a lot of messing around, trying to cart all 3 into a hotel room.
I love the way you have all the details of exact spending on this that and the other, breaking everything down on a spreadsheet, it's something that I always think I should do, but never do!! Good on you!
It really is a beautiful bike, I hope you have many, many miles of enjoyable riding! I've got a Triumph Tiger 800 xrt, it's a lovely bike, but I do find myself craving for a GS!!
Thanks again!!
@@stags-gr8to Don't type Nick Hodge Excel into Google or you will know why I have stuff in spreadsheets!! You're not alone in questioning the vario luggage so I feel a video incoming.... watch this space, ride safe and love your Triumph. It's a motorcycle, that's everything ;)
@@nickhodgeUK LOL! Thanks again, and I'll be looking out for your next video :-)
On my third GS LC, a GSA 1250 Exclusive, agree with your comments. Screen issues solved by fitting a Puig Touring, always fit a MudSling and a Denali horn. Got the Givi tank bag too, love it as it’s not too big. Otherwise a superb all rounder and by far the best bike I’ve ever owned for UK and European riding...here in Northumberland a very popular bike.
Chukky aka Ian thanks for commenting Ian. I’ve looked at screens now and thinking of either the MRA vario or Puig. Think if I fit risers (which I hope may fix ‘slouching’), then I sense I may need it. Ride safe
Nick Hodge I fitted Rox risers which bring back the bars, I’m only 5’9” with spine issues so these have made a big difference. Luggage wise I use Bumot panniers and top box fitted straight to the OEM racks, much better than the OEM panniers. I used Varios on my standard GSs, good but too small for touring...
Thanks Nick. Very comprehensive video. It’s gives an excellent overview of the true cost. These are not cheap bikes and it is not a cheap hobby at this level, but the bikes are so great you find the cash somehow.
For completeness, depreciation is a factor, but, in my experience, these bike fare very well in the longer term; however with the high price from new, the early hit is high. I have a 2012 R1200GS Rallye, last of the oil cooled bikes, that I have have had for 5 years. I am very tempted by the new one, but fond of the old one. The older bike suffers very little depreciation, but the new one is just so much better you start thinking “what the heck”.
Thanks also for calling out the accessories. Of all of those things, the engine bars are totally essential and the panniers bags too. There are a number of alternative manufacturers of the panniers bags and the price can be a bit lower. All good stuff.
Thanks.
Derek Hastings thanks for commenting Derek. For sure the older they get the less that stand you after all the fun is factored in. I think it’s why so many have ‘collections’. My friend just bought a GS1250 after a 2008 Triumph Rocket. It was worth about £5k to BMW but more to him, so he’s kept it. Only live once!! Ride safe
Love these bikes. Particularly the GS Adventure. It is well known these bikes will be used 80%+ on the super slab. As such, I 100% agree with you on the pitiful horn. This is a safety item and BMW is all about safety. BMW could have easily used the horn off their K1600 series bikes. These are Denali Sound Bomb equals. An electric windscreen would also be a great option. The other elements you mentioned in the fit & fit and finish comments, I would also also concur. Nice work here Mate! Much appreciate the value you bring to our motorcycling community. Ride safe and ride often.
Thanks for you comments. If only the weather would improve here just a little. I’d be out. Certainly itching to 👍🏻
I’mmm, I’ve got a 2015 gstb, two weeks off the end of warranty I had it booked in for free end of check. Well you couldn’t Believe what was to follow. 23 months old !! new gear box, new clutch, rear wheel bearing, new starting motor and handle bar switching all done under warranty, thank god I booked it in, but from that day to this I’ve never heard a word from the dealer or bmw it’s as i the bike never existed.
So six years down the line Ive not done a lot of miles 7000 so with the help of your videos I’m doing my own services, lost all convenience in bmw.
Did they do the work?? That seems a huge amount of things wrong. I have a friend with 110,000 miles and no real issues in all that time. Often the quality of the dealer compliments the bmw brand. So far my dealer has been great although we have had some issues for sure, but nothing like that list!
Enjoyed the video. Was surfing TH-cam looking for bikes like yours . Been riding a VStrom for the last 7 years and really love it . It’s been great to me . Only tires ,service,and a stator have needed to b done on it . I am going to go look and ride a bike like yours I’m certain I’ll love it and trade my VStrom in for it . I never go off road except on actual dirt bikes for fun but have no intent on taking a heavy bike off road so a bike like yours vs GSA is I think perfect for me. Videos like yours have been very helpful in clarifying my decision. Keep up the good work
Thanks Mark. I don't think you'll be disappointed with either a GS or a GSA. Many are critical of them, but that's often the case when something is extremely good. It has it's faults for sure and stuff that frustrates, but overall it's a superb vehicle and sales every year show that. Ride safe
Gosh! Was just going to watch a few minutes but enjoyed the video so much that I had to keep watching till the end! Bought a GS, 2010 last May. It obviously doesn't have all the functions that yours does but it looks like new and I love it nevertheless. 😊 The Givi tank case is interesting. Isn't there a risk it will scratch the tank? Thank you v. much f. lovely video and best regards from Sweden 🇸🇪
Thanks for commenting. Glad you enjoyed it. The Givi bag sits on a bracket above the tank so no danger of scratching when in place, of course you could drop it clipping on and off for fuelling. There’s a specific video I did on fitting it on the channel. Stay safe
Great video Nick. I have just got a 1200GS TE LC (couldn’t quite stretch to the 1250) but I’m really very happy with it. The dynamics of the bike are fantastic and I could echo much of what you said in your video. Looking forward to a great years riding.
Hi Geoff. Hope you enjoy the coming rides and be safe 👍🏻
Good honest review - Had mine for a year too and agree on most points. No regrets, cracking bike. Never understood why the SOS button only works on cellular network - think adventure locations... really should have been satellite for another £100. I wouldn't have got it and just got a SPOT.
When I first got my old 1200 which had it and the TFT it used to launch a warning every time it went out of signal which was slightly disconcerting. Glad you are enjoying the 1250. Wish I could ride mine. Maybe soon 🤞🏻
Excellent Video.
Thank you 👍🏻
man, in 2021 a fully loaded GS is about £25k!
Indeed. In fact maybe north of that. Adaptive headlights, heated seats, all push up the cost. 👍🏻
Great video, I also have a R1200 GS, and have had it a few months, and was also considering swapping it for the 1250, one question for you, the noise up through the front forks, is it very loud on the 1250?? I find it very noisy on the 1200
Hi Paul. If you mean the engine noise then yes. The boxer suffers the noise as I think they’re not constrained under the tank for a muffling effect. I find the 1250 a little smoother but they’re still very similar
Great review Nick, (only just seen this, subscribed now)
very good watch, thanks for posting,
i’m thinking of part ex-ing my Yamaha Tracer 900 for a 1250 👍
Hi Chris. Only had GSs since returning to motorcycling. Now an adventure after this one. Such accomplished motorcycles. You’ll not regret it 👍🏻
For extra protection at the front, you can fit the GSA screen which is larger, the location of the torx bolts are in the same position. I also fitted a rear wheel hugger to my 1200, it works perfectly on protecting the suspension strut ect. 👍
Cheers Geoff. Thanks for the suggestions