I remember reading about this in Radio Control Car Action. The "Stealth" cars that Masami and the other AE guys ran were extreme prototypes, so much so that AE didn't allow anyone to photograph them without the body on the cars. The other drivers also bitched about the low profile 2.2 tires that were used because they were so sticky.
This is the kind of track I dreamed about when I was a kid. Not going to the middle of nowhere into some warehouse and racing on hard-packed mud on a characterless track.
I remember when I read about this race in the magazines I was disappointed, because I wanted the Team Losi JRX2 to win. The JRX2 was the best 2WD of 1988 and 1989. I had one.
I also dislike modern "smooth" off road tires. It's like they're making them into on-road cars. In the movie, "War of the Roses", the wife Kathleen Turner says she wants an off-road truck with knobby tires. I also dislike the modern ugly cab forward bodies.
I was there it was a legendary race here in Australia first ever world R.C 1/10th off road championships! Australians placed in lower mains @ the time I was 15 years old ! They were the years of r.c racing ever !
Crazy how they were using the YR31 tire and Losi was trying to play games w/the Xpattern (technically called into question over legal or not b/c it wasnt avail to public at the time). Apparently AE tested after the event with the X and went faster still. -R
Masami is definitely a legend in my lunchtime. B¬) I think he has been world champion with virtually every RC car. And yeah, these cars were fast, but you're looking at top pro drivers. Even back in '89 their rigs were costing big bux.
2 things stick out in this video: 1) Trees around the track, epic feature! 2) The speed of the cars is very....Modest! You could probably run this pace now with 13.5 & lipo.
Ha! I remember when RC car racing was nothing but MRC/Tamiya Holiday Buggies, Rough Riders, and Sand Scorchers! And then a few AYK Buffaloes showed up...and that weird Hirobo 4WD thing. What a POS that was! Oh, can't forget the Tamiya 'Super Champ'. I had one of those. It weighed a ton and had a terrible rear suspension.
@NitroJunkie626 Did not see that much Euro using throttle on the right, but if some do this, it could be due to video games, since Arcade, PCs, Nintendo or other always have buttons for throttle/brake on the right hand, and steering on the left. "Super Off Road" for example was released in 1989.
Wikipedia lists the winning car of this race as the "RC10", but that is very misleading. Masami's RC10 Stealth Prototype that won this race was radically different from the classic RC10 that was released in 1984. In a way, it was like a real race car - custom made, not in production, not available to the public, and not mass produced. It was effectively a professional car. It was apparently the only RC10 variant with a double deck chassis, like the Traxxas TRX-3. Apparently that same car won again in 1991. Despite that success, Team Associated never implemented that double deck chassis into any of its later production RC10 variants. All the other RC10s that came later had either a tub chassis or a plate chassis.
perfectsplit Masami also had 2000 mah batteries. I slept with Jay Halsey before he was married. He told me. So, Masami Hirosaka won the 2wd with an illegal chassi, and illegal batteries. iFMAR Rules said you had to have 50 chassi available to compete. Like perfectsplit said, only AE had that chassi. So, AE cheated with a prototype car that no one ever had. When I was a little girl, I gave Cliff Lett a hand job at Break-A-Way Raceway when he was testing the "Stealth Car" prior to the 89' and 91's worlds.
@perfectsplit5515 You can find pictures of each of you search Google. There are many more of the 91 worlds car, though. The key visual difference is that the 89 has the front shocks in front of the shock tower while the 91 had then on the back side. Losi brought a prototype in 91 as well. A few years back some people reverse engineered the Associated 91 world's car from pictures and sold it as a kit (Nixconcepts Nix91). I think you can still buy one, but I'm pretty sure what's out there now is a knock off of the first kit.
The way I see it, stick radios for surface types seem more apprpriate on toy rc's. As for Mode 1, I guess I'll never understand why Europe and Asia prefer their throttle on the right.
This year nikko run for the first time I think with the nikko brat, a pro kit that was the one of the only three pro kits nikko had ever produced, it was the nikko sprinter and another I do not remember, I thing dandy.... Something like that..... But I don't know if these nikko rc cars were competitive compared with the other brands, and also I can not find the results..... Does someone know something????
Awesome Old RC footage. Very cool. Thosr were the day's .
I remember reading about this in Radio Control Car Action. The "Stealth" cars that Masami and the other AE guys ran were extreme prototypes, so much so that AE didn't allow anyone to photograph them without the body on the cars. The other drivers also bitched about the low profile 2.2 tires that were used because they were so sticky.
The tree to the left is still there, one to the right died and got chopped around 5 years ago.. Finally got the stump from that one out last year!
Haha awesome! So the track is still there?
This is the kind of track I dreamed about when I was a kid. Not going to the middle of nowhere into some warehouse and racing on hard-packed mud on a characterless track.
I remember when I read about this race in the magazines I was disappointed, because I wanted the Team Losi JRX2 to win. The JRX2 was the best 2WD of 1988 and 1989. I had one.
All original team drivers we all read and wanted to be in the 80s 90s wow great upload thank you
I also dislike modern "smooth" off road tires. It's like they're making them into on-road cars. In the movie, "War of the Roses", the wife Kathleen Turner says she wants an off-road truck with knobby tires. I also dislike the modern ugly cab forward bodies.
I was there it was a legendary race here in Australia first ever world R.C 1/10th off road championships! Australians placed in lower mains
@ the time I was 15 years old ! They were the years of r.c racing ever !
Crazy how they were using the YR31 tire and Losi was trying to play games w/the Xpattern (technically called into question over legal or not b/c it wasnt avail to public at the time). Apparently AE tested after the event with the X and went faster still. -R
Masami is definitely a legend in my lunchtime. B¬) I think he has been world champion with virtually every RC car. And yeah, these cars were fast, but you're looking at top pro drivers. Even back in '89 their rigs were costing big bux.
touring car was the only one he didnt win
Wow those are fast for old school motors and NICD
2 things stick out in this video: 1) Trees around the track, epic feature! 2) The speed of the cars is very....Modest! You could probably run this pace now with 13.5 & lipo.
1700 mah batteries were the best you could get.
Ha! I remember when RC car racing was nothing but MRC/Tamiya Holiday Buggies, Rough Riders, and Sand Scorchers! And then a few AYK Buffaloes showed up...and that weird Hirobo 4WD thing. What a POS that was! Oh, can't forget the Tamiya 'Super Champ'. I had one of those. It weighed a ton and had a terrible rear suspension.
Yes the Hirobo Alien-Mid....
tempest411 looked scale though and had some metal parts, think also some trailing arm looking things ....
masami is the man!
wow those buggies were quick even back then, they look almost as fast as 1/8th scale nitro
The guy with the stick radio is british, in Europe most drivers use those instead of pistol grip. Also, I think they fly aircraft with Mode 1 radios.
@NitroJunkie626
Did not see that much Euro using throttle on the right, but if some do this, it could be due to video games, since Arcade, PCs, Nintendo or other always have buttons for throttle/brake on the right hand, and steering on the left.
"Super Off Road" for example was released in 1989.
Rad, trees in the track.
Glad to see this ☺️
This was back when the only batteries were 1200mAh cells
1700 mah were the norm.
Wikipedia lists the winning car of this race as the "RC10", but that is very misleading. Masami's RC10 Stealth Prototype that won this race was radically different from the classic RC10 that was released in 1984. In a way, it was like a real race car - custom made, not in production, not available to the public, and not mass produced. It was effectively a professional car. It was apparently the only RC10 variant with a double deck chassis, like the Traxxas TRX-3. Apparently that same car won again in 1991. Despite that success, Team Associated never implemented that double deck chassis into any of its later production RC10 variants. All the other RC10s that came later had either a tub chassis or a plate chassis.
91 car was different.. similar, but substantially different.
BWX How was it different?
perfectsplit Masami also had 2000 mah batteries. I slept with Jay Halsey before he was married. He told me.
So, Masami Hirosaka won the 2wd with an illegal chassi, and illegal batteries. iFMAR Rules said you had to have 50 chassi available to compete. Like perfectsplit said, only AE had that chassi.
So, AE cheated with a prototype car that no one ever had. When I was a little girl, I gave Cliff Lett a hand job at Break-A-Way Raceway when he was testing the "Stealth Car" prior to the 89' and 91's worlds.
+Tummysticks315 pssst.. it's not really a girl.
@perfectsplit5515 You can find pictures of each of you search Google. There are many more of the 91 worlds car, though. The key visual difference is that the 89 has the front shocks in front of the shock tower while the 91 had then on the back side. Losi brought a prototype in 91 as well.
A few years back some people reverse engineered the Associated 91 world's car from pictures and sold it as a kit (Nixconcepts Nix91). I think you can still buy one, but I'm pretty sure what's out there now is a knock off of the first kit.
how long did batteries last back then
5
The way I see it, stick radios for surface types seem more apprpriate on toy rc's. As for Mode 1, I guess I'll never understand why Europe and Asia prefer their throttle on the right.
This year nikko run for the first time I think with the nikko brat, a pro kit that was the one of the only three pro kits nikko had ever produced, it was the nikko sprinter and another I do not remember, I thing dandy.... Something like that..... But I don't know if these nikko rc cars were competitive compared with the other brands, and also I can not find the results..... Does someone know something????
Nikko Brat
wherer in sydney was this track?
They actually mostly used the Sanyo 1700 SCE cells, those things sucked, they lost run time every single time you used them.
Not in '89! 1700s were still a few years away at that point. We had 1700s in '94, possibly '93. In '89 it was all 1200s
Danny Colverson not sure on that one, I upgraded to a lazer zx in 1989, defo was running 1700 SCE’s
1200 SCRS AND 1700 SCE ..... peak detector chargers were a must....
The 1700s in the mid 90s were the 1700SCRC cells, worlds better than the 1700 SCE. When I started in 88 I had a choice of those and the 1200 SCRs.
@@patissanchez and the 1400 scr red cells , but 1700 sce were the norm
I'm sure that Brian Kinwald was watching them. :)
Was a Trx1 in this race?
awesome
@timsk the sanyo SCR 1400 the red cells
cool
Barely make 4 minutes .
it was a 5 minute race
Awesome vintage video