I can always get into DSR and enjoy being there. My first Ultimate that I cleared on patch and I only have cleared UWU before. I also love the fact that DSR has a strong narrative behind it with the what-ifs, which makes the clear that much more meaningful to me.
Easily the best ultimate for me. Tea was really damn good but dsr with the “what if” scenario and the quality of the fight overall is what puts it over the top for me. The amount of satisfaction my group felt when we cleared was insane. Definitely the peak of my ffxiv experience ❤
@@MrCharly780 it'snot even that long... Ucob can be close to it in terms of length if you don't skip dives and are slow to kill adds/golden. IMO 17-18 min fights are just right. Nothing like uwu/tea where you kill it at sub 16 mins lmao.
@@vaderglennIt feels alot longer to me than any other ultimate purely because of eye/rewind phase. Look I get it, people are gonna argue “but ohh thematically its soo cool “ but imo its BORING.
Every time P5 comes my heart will hammer to prepare for DOTH. The positioning to KB is one of the most challenging mechs. So much precision needed, but when the team gets it right, it’s very cool almost magical when it happens. And we often have the P6 dps issue where the difference just happen at the very last second which is annoying.
I feel like for Wrath if they added a tower, it may just be revealing where people needed to go…though I guess if the timing wasn’t as quick then maybe *Shrug*
What p3 has in common with my personal favorite ulti phase, Nael, is that it’s full uptime pretty much. Full uptime phases are my favorite. Trios are cool but damn imagine an uptime version of doth where thordan is doing the KB instead of it being from the middle.
I think if it wasn't for the Hand of Pain P6 could have been an S-Tier Phase. The enrage mechanics for the Dragons make sense and require a pretty bad fuck up on the part of the players, but the mechanics themselves are incredibly easy. Wroth is a surprisingly fun mechanic with tight movement, required healcheck and mechanical check for Jobs with 1 Minute buffs, since they come back up during it. It's just that damn Hand of Pain snapshotting at the last possible frame and wiping you that's awful, that's really it
A fight I don't think I will every do or TOP and may just have to be satisfied having done the other 3. I think I'm a decent player and a great teammate but it's not really about me its about finding 7 others to stick it out and tbh I struggle with self-confidence in raiding even though someone would look at me, my parses and what I've accomplished like bro your a fantastic player compared to the average player but meh lmao. Also just being real with myself and knowing myself and how draining doing the other 3 was to do, do I want to go through that again with the added time of finding a good group. The fight looks amazing and I believe every word people say about it being the best, maybe one day I will do it but right now I don't see myself doing it any time soon.
I agree with p7 the mechs was not as hard as TOP p6 but the epicness of it and our group's tanks mangaging tank stance to manage agro just makes it perfect.
I remember doing DSR with you on week 4 and you complained about thordan phases being annoying. TOP really does change perspective (I used to think the same thing). I also hated p6 because it it felt incredibly unfair. Hand of pain/hres enrage felt so unfair that far in the fight; especially with groups resorting to 6/1/1, mits became incredibly tight so having a tank just die cause “I forgot my rampart, woopsies😂” and it whips the group just felt really unfun and it was actually a more stressful phase than DOTH
Only thing I did not like in this ultimate was the meteors. If there was a day my vpn was not working well, that mechanic was so miserable. Poor ping never feels good, but that was one of the only mechanics I can recall in this entire game were it just felt impossible at times (the tight pattern specifically). Fortunately it was a rare case.
I haven’t tested it but a friend of mine said you’re suppose to LOS the knockback by standing behind the meteors during sanctity. Which honestly is also just as ass as having a fight that *requires* arms length lol
I only did dsr and top, but for me top is the best ultimate/fight in the game at the moment. It was sometimes miserable to prog yes, but I had so much fun and the whole fight is engaging. Meanwhile in dsr, it only gets interesting in p5 onwards.
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I can always get into DSR and enjoy being there. My first Ultimate that I cleared on patch and I only have cleared UWU before. I also love the fact that DSR has a strong narrative behind it with the what-ifs, which makes the clear that much more meaningful to me.
Easily the best ultimate for me. Tea was really damn good but dsr with the “what if” scenario and the quality of the fight overall is what puts it over the top for me. The amount of satisfaction my group felt when we cleared was insane. Definitely the peak of my ffxiv experience ❤
Its too fucking long imo. Narratively its the best, nid is on par with nael as best phase but fuck double dragons after doth, its exhausting
@@MrCharly780 it'snot even that long... Ucob can be close to it in terms of length if you don't skip dives and are slow to kill adds/golden. IMO 17-18 min fights are just right. Nothing like uwu/tea where you kill it at sub 16 mins lmao.
@@vaderglennIt feels alot longer to me than any other ultimate purely because of eye/rewind phase. Look I get it, people are gonna argue “but ohh thematically its soo cool “ but imo its BORING.
DSR IS EASILY, the best ultimate by a mile. Such an amazing fight. Dual dragons is hit or miss you but the rest of the fight, perfection.
Every time P5 comes my heart will hammer to prepare for DOTH. The positioning to KB is one of the most challenging mechs. So much precision needed, but when the team gets it right, it’s very cool almost magical when it happens. And we often have the P6 dps issue where the difference just happen at the very last second which is annoying.
I feel like for Wrath if they added a tower, it may just be revealing where people needed to go…though I guess if the timing wasn’t as quick then maybe *Shrug*
My prog in DSR was really rough. I grew more as a player because of DSR than I did because of TOP.
What p3 has in common with my personal favorite ulti phase, Nael, is that it’s full uptime pretty much. Full uptime phases are my favorite. Trios are cool but damn imagine an uptime version of doth where thordan is doing the KB instead of it being from the middle.
I think if it wasn't for the Hand of Pain P6 could have been an S-Tier Phase. The enrage mechanics for the Dragons make sense and require a pretty bad fuck up on the part of the players, but the mechanics themselves are incredibly easy. Wroth is a surprisingly fun mechanic with tight movement, required healcheck and mechanical check for Jobs with 1 Minute buffs, since they come back up during it. It's just that damn Hand of Pain snapshotting at the last possible frame and wiping you that's awful, that's really it
I think the Checkpoint is the result of the fact that the Ultimate would be "to long" compared to the others. It would be ... 22 Minutes?
A fight I don't think I will every do or TOP and may just have to be satisfied having done the other 3. I think I'm a decent player and a great teammate but it's not really about me its about finding 7 others to stick it out and tbh I struggle with self-confidence in raiding even though someone would look at me, my parses and what I've accomplished like bro your a fantastic player compared to the average player but meh lmao. Also just being real with myself and knowing myself and how draining doing the other 3 was to do, do I want to go through that again with the added time of finding a good group. The fight looks amazing and I believe every word people say about it being the best, maybe one day I will do it but right now I don't see myself doing it any time soon.
I agree with p7 the mechs was not as hard as TOP p6 but the epicness of it and our group's tanks mangaging tank stance to manage agro just makes it perfect.
Sergeant Bilko smart weapons moment.
I remember doing DSR with you on week 4 and you complained about thordan phases being annoying. TOP really does change perspective (I used to think the same thing).
I also hated p6 because it it felt incredibly unfair. Hand of pain/hres enrage felt so unfair that far in the fight; especially with groups resorting to 6/1/1, mits became incredibly tight so having a tank just die cause “I forgot my rampart, woopsies😂” and it whips the group just felt really unfun and it was actually a more stressful phase than DOTH
Only thing I did not like in this ultimate was the meteors. If there was a day my vpn was not working well, that mechanic was so miserable. Poor ping never feels good, but that was one of the only mechanics I can recall in this entire game were it just felt impossible at times (the tight pattern specifically). Fortunately it was a rare case.
As a fellow baldman I thank you for the content
I haven’t tested it but a friend of mine said you’re suppose to LOS the knockback by standing behind the meteors during sanctity. Which honestly is also just as ass as having a fight that *requires* arms length lol
My group heard that and tested it. It doesn't work.
@@adno4 rip, good to know!
I only did dsr and top, but for me top is the best ultimate/fight in the game at the moment. It was sometimes miserable to prog yes, but I had so much fun and the whole fight is engaging. Meanwhile in dsr, it only gets interesting in p5 onwards.
Top is a piece of garbage
Dsr is as my favorite ultimate but worst progging experience. Working on top now.
I liked dsr, prog experience was kinda frustrating but still fun. now im progging top and i just want to die in a corner
S tier ultimate, Hand of pain sucks. And death of the heavens is truly scary man >.>
Buhh
Bald
DSR is the worst Ultimate because Haurchefant doesnt die, but all the likable NPCs do.
As a fan, DSR was my least favourite ultimate
The best fight in the game and hey it came from the "worst" expansion
Was supposed to be Shadowbringer ultimate tbf lol
This fight was actually meant to release in 5.3 but because of covid it was delayed to 6.1. It was a Shadowbringers ultimate.
Regardless of when it was scheduled it was ultimately released in Endwalker
They owe us the 6th ultimate but still have time to do ff16😢
@@Karbonblade God whats next one Shinryu and Tsukuyomi, Eww Stormblood trial base Ultimate. Roll on the Ultimate Eden