@@markbridwell8972 Are you that fucking sensitive that you must reply to a 7 year old comment about their vocabulary? Valuable contribution to the thread right here
That's my favorite band of all time.Been listening since high school.Love the way he voices the saxes sometimes with the soprano on top.And Kenny Garrett is just awesome.This band will endure for the ages with all the recordings they've made successfully.
I got a John Mosca story… In the mid 80’s I used to go to Barry Harris’s group lessons at the Jazz Cultural Theatre in Manhattan. It would be 6 to 10 horn players on different wind instruments and Barry would compose a bop tune on the spot by singing 2 bars at a time and the group would have to play back what he just sang. Each time Barry added 2 more bars, we replayed his tune from the beginning and then just added the next 2 bars he just sang. And they were real bop lines man! We’re about 40 mins into a lesson one day and John Mosca walks in, sits down, apologies for being late so Barry says, “I’ll tell where we’re up to”. Barry then sang the head 2 bars at a time, John played back each 2 bars that Barry sang without repeating the beginning each time. In less than 60 seconds, John had the head memorized and was playing it better than virtually everyone in the room who’ve been sitting there for the last 40 minutes. It was so impressive how quickly Mosca learned the tune, I was absolutely astounded. One of the beautiful things about jazz is you’re always standing on the shoulders of giants. But on that day I realised one of those jazz giants was sitting in the chair next to me, and his name was John Mosca.
Kenny is just incredible, his sound is just fantastic, the saxophone section is actually one of the best ever..... Just listen to the sound with only one chord they just blow your mind...... I'm gonna transcribe Kenny's solo!
2nd from the right in trumpet section is a friend of mine from NJ - Joe Mosello. We played in several big bands together. He also played in Maynard's band. He's a great player.
Mel's harmonic ear was simply genius. To be able to hear and write these heavenly charts are things us mere humans can only imagine writing. Also, much respect to Herbie for birthing this great tune.
SO nice to see this. I had it on VHS many years ago when I was playing sax. Hung up the horn 3 years ago, but seeing this again has whet my appetite. Kenny Garrett's alto solo is nothing short of perfect in this tune. Truly inspirational. I recommend any young sax players wanting to learn how to build a solo in a big band scenario they watch this time and time again! Fantastic!
OK- an old memory- WYRS out of Stamford Connecticut, before they became WJAZ and then went away- I always remember this song as their station break theme music. Maybe even this version- but quite some time ago. I listened to them when I was in college- 1982-1986
holy crap. Talk about a collection of influential sax players. Has there ever been this caliber of grouping of sax players before they influenced the sax world like this. You have arguably the most influential alto and tenor player of the last 30 years and then Dick for lead alto playing and Smulyan for bari players. Just wow.
Tout le disque enregistré à Montreux en 80 sur des thèmes de Herbie Hancock, orchestré par bob Mintzer est une pure splendeur. Écoutez particulièrement "Speak like a child"; un ravissement.
Cannonball, Woods, Garrett, Oatts. I really cannot think of any other alto players who carry the individual, unique intensity any of these 4 do with their pure sound alone.
Kenny Garret's resume was impressive before he was 30. I mean, he played with Duke's band, Mel Lewis's group and Miles. How many of us can say they've done something comparable before the age of 30?
Que se puede decir del jazz; se ha dicho todo o casi; los grandes generos del siglo XX; nacieron en America; el tango; el bolero; la rumba y el son; el samba; candombe; conga etc etc etc; el blues y el buen rock n roll; America crisol de razas ha dado estas maravillas; a cuidarlas y desarrollarlas.
Mel was one of the very best of the big band drummers (and was great with small groups), but he was neither a composer or arranger. The trombone soloist is John Mosca, who has been on the band for many years and has fronted it since Mel died. The pianist is Jim McNeely, who has done a lot of writing for the band. I don't recognize Lovano on this band.
first heard of McNeely when he was part of Ted Curson's group @ a Newport J F performance, early 80's. Terry Gibbs tagged Mel to be drummer on his early big band groups too. Before the "Dreamband" - ie. "Launching A New Sound in Music" - what a great group. Mercury records.
It's a Herbie Hancock composition that originally came out on his "Maiden Voyage" LP in quintet form in 1965. It's a great track but of course not a big band number. It's on YT.
There's a record Mel Lewis Plays the Music of Herbie Hancock. On the album, it's actually Dick Oatts. the album was recorded at Montreaux. GREAT record and it's on iTunes now. was out of print for a LONG time
+Benny Brewer Thank you, Benny; I wish that they, as physical human beings, will never go - if it were possible. The Mel Lewis Big Band Jazz Orchestra to which I have really made reference, is it still active as a Unit with that great sound? I have recently seen a couple of active players from the MLJazz Orchestra leading their individual 'tet.
Yeah they still play at the Village Vanguard every week, they're called the Vanguard Jazz Orchestra now, but it's the same band. A few of the players in this video are still in it too. One of the trombone players is I know, not sure about the others.
+Benny Brewer Thanks again, my friend. I have therefore been happily hearing the group on a couple of occasions without realizing that it has been principally a name change.
And the "best" car is still the Model A! Fact is, though, that neither of those guys grew up in the pop and post-bop culture that Garrett did, so can't bring his hipper sound and rhythmic ideas to the playground. It's like stating that Biederbeck must be honored first and foremost when Brecker is standing in front of you.
Oh shit! I didn't realize Kenny Garrett played on this until I heard him playing. What a fucking SOUND... no one else sounds like that.
Ignore my devils advocate remark but I always thought he just sounds like Cannonball with the bebop taken out.
ehm, sounds incredible either way… and cannonball is more of a roundish sound and they have a different time feel as well.
Both are, (for me), the hardest alto's to transcribe, thinking about tried to sound like same.
Please avoid the "F" word in the future . Thank you .
@@markbridwell8972 Are you that fucking sensitive that you must reply to a 7 year old comment about their vocabulary? Valuable contribution to the thread right here
Gotta love that late-70s/early-80s Vaseline-on-the-lens technique to get those horns to sparkle! lol
That's my favorite band of all time.Been listening since high school.Love the way he voices the saxes sometimes with the soprano on top.And Kenny Garrett is just awesome.This band will endure for the ages with all the recordings they've made successfully.
Kenny Garrett really blows the hell out of that alto. Great sound.
That’s a GREAT sax section. Wow.
3:27 lol I actually used this lick to laugh at my friends when I was 5
Trumpets, from left to right, are Tom Harrell, Earl Gardner (lead), Joe Mosello and John Marshall
Mel had one of the widest cymbal beats in history! So relaxed and swinging!!
I feel a real tribute to Thad and respect for him that Mel is conducting from the drums. No one can replace Thad. God Bless Thad Jones.
The great Trombone player/comedian John Mosca!!! ;) Great guy, great solo!!
Man! He’s the best I study with him and some one I call a true inspiration and a friend.
@@martyscott4701 I've always loved his playing. Out of curiosity, is he still with VJO? (He was missing from a show a couple years back...)
@@Dana_Danarosana No, unfortunately he’s not his last year with that band was 2018 I believe.
@@martyscott4701 Thanks for the info. I was just hoping he was well... been playing bone for 35+ years myself and I'm a longtime fan. All the best.
I got a John Mosca story…
In the mid 80’s I used to go to Barry Harris’s group lessons at the Jazz Cultural Theatre in Manhattan. It would be 6 to 10 horn players on different wind instruments and Barry would compose a bop tune on the spot by singing 2 bars at a time and the group would have to play back what he just sang. Each time Barry added 2 more bars, we replayed his tune from the beginning and then just added the next 2 bars he just sang. And they were real bop lines man!
We’re about 40 mins into a lesson one day and John Mosca walks in, sits down, apologies for being late so Barry says, “I’ll tell where we’re up to”.
Barry then sang the head 2 bars at a time, John played back each 2 bars that Barry sang without repeating the beginning each time.
In less than 60 seconds, John had the head memorized and was playing it better than virtually everyone in the room who’ve been sitting there for the last 40 minutes. It was so impressive how quickly Mosca learned the tune, I was absolutely astounded.
One of the beautiful things about jazz is you’re always standing on the shoulders of giants. But on that day I realised one of those jazz giants was sitting in the chair next to me, and his name was John Mosca.
I’ll forever be coming back to this video to hear Kenny.
agree !!!
Kenny is just incredible, his sound is just fantastic, the saxophone section is actually one of the best ever..... Just listen to the sound with only one chord they just blow your mind...... I'm gonna transcribe Kenny's solo!
Who's Kenny?
@@stuartbritton4811 Kenny Garrett
2nd from the right in trumpet section is a friend of mine from NJ - Joe Mosello. We played in several big bands together. He also played in Maynard's band. He's a great player.
That’Tom Harrell on 4th trpt.
Jazz, America's greatest gift to the world! sd goh (malaysia)
No! Black Americans greatest gift sweetheart!
Mel's harmonic ear was simply genius. To be able to hear and write these heavenly charts are things us mere humans can only imagine writing. Also, much respect to Herbie for birthing this great tune.
Mintzer chart
It's by Bob Mintzer.
He was known as Mel "the tailor" Lewis in the earlier part of his career .
SO nice to see this. I had it on VHS many years ago when I was playing sax. Hung up the horn 3 years ago, but seeing this again has whet my appetite. Kenny Garrett's alto solo is nothing short of perfect in this tune. Truly inspirational. I recommend any young sax players wanting to learn how to build a solo in a big band scenario they watch this time and time again! Fantastic!
This 1 was nicely arranged: every section is respecting the other, there is no too much overlapping and you can clearly appreciate every sound
OK- an old memory- WYRS out of Stamford Connecticut, before they became WJAZ and then went away- I always remember this song as their station break theme music. Maybe even this version- but quite some time ago. I listened to them when I was in college- 1982-1986
Dennis Irwing sounds so great! Incredible guy.
Such a huge and organic sound.
No one can play Dolphin Dance wrong but this rendition is exceptional!
That's Joe Lovano on tenor. have the complete dvd if anyones interested
bill gargaro Hey I would love to have that DVD if you still have it
Jeee! From Norway.
Very interested!
Bill... Hey man. Super interested😊 much love👌💯🎶❤️🌍
Yes!!
holy crap. Talk about a collection of influential sax players. Has there ever been this caliber of grouping of sax players before they influenced the sax world like this. You have arguably the most influential alto and tenor player of the last 30 years and then Dick for lead alto playing and Smulyan for bari players. Just wow.
Great chart!! Mel was sooooooo smooth!!!
damn I love that alto solo! What a master!
I own this chart and have yet to really have a band good enough to do it justice.
Could you send me the pdf to it by any chance?
Mel Lewis "Live in Montreux" MPS 15571 (1980)
Recorded July 16, 1980 at Montreux Jazz Festival
The arrangement is by Bob Mintzer
And what a beautiful, multi-layered arrangement it is too!
Tout le disque enregistré à Montreux en 80 sur des thèmes de Herbie Hancock, orchestré par bob Mintzer est une pure splendeur. Écoutez particulièrement "Speak like a child"; un ravissement.
Bob Mintzer. Taken from Live At The Smithsonian. An hour of superb writing and playing!
Kenny Garrett is one of my 5 favorite alto players. His sound is so awesome. BTW, #1 is Cannonball Adderly
Pepper Williams Kenny Garnett is the man...that's a fact
Don't forget Phil Woods!!
Quinn Parker Ritchie Cole would have turned this one inside out!
CaptainCreature
Cannonball, Woods, Garrett, Oatts. I really cannot think of any other alto players who carry the individual, unique intensity any of these 4 do with their pure sound alone.
Mr. John Mosca!!!!
BEAUTIFUL
@JROB1989 Yes it is Tom Harrell.
I have this DVD and the whole set is superb - as usual ~
Kenny Garret's resume was impressive before he was 30. I mean, he played with Duke's band, Mel Lewis's group and Miles. How many of us can say they've done something comparable before the age of 30?
Sounds very Good!
Maravilloso!!!!
Love Bob Mintzer's band, Bobby Malach sounds great!
Thad Jones wrote most of the charts for the band. This chart was written by Bob Mintzer. I don't know of any charts that Mel Lewis wrote.
SO GOOD
That's Joe Lovano; jazz tenor. Gary Pribeck, 2nd tenor
Que se puede decir del jazz; se ha dicho todo o casi; los grandes generos del siglo XX; nacieron en America; el tango; el bolero; la rumba y el son; el samba; candombe; conga etc etc etc; el blues y el buen rock n roll; America crisol de razas ha dado estas maravillas; a cuidarlas y desarrollarlas.
This reminds me of when I was playing in the jazz bands at Roosevelt University & Chicago State University.
T 8x12", 9x13", 16x16", BD 16x20", SD 51/2x14", batter side all calf skin, that periode for a short time Avedis Zildjian USA Cymbals...
The "400 yr old" Turkish secret ain't so much of a secret these days .
Ce chef d'œuvre de Herbie Hancock est magnifié par la plume de Bob Mintzer, pour le Mel Lewis Big band, à Montreux en 1980
John Mosca's solo is beyond genius!!
Is that Lovano on 1st tenor? Killin band...beautiful solo
Brother Garrett tears it up.Great arrangement of Herbie Hancock's composition.
love
Jim McNeely on piano?
Yes!
Tom Harrell is on 2nd tp
so this may be at 1981.
Third Trumpet
Horn is Stephanie Fauber
3:18...sheezus
Mel was one of the very best of the big band drummers (and was great with small groups), but he was neither a composer or arranger. The trombone soloist is John Mosca, who has been on the band for many years and has fronted it since Mel died. The pianist is Jim McNeely, who has done a lot of writing for the band. I don't recognize Lovano on this band.
first heard of McNeely when he was part of Ted Curson's group @ a Newport J F
performance, early 80's. Terry Gibbs tagged Mel to be drummer on his early big band groups too. Before the "Dreamband" - ie. "Launching A New Sound in Music" - what a great group. Mercury records.
Kenny !!!
Does anyone have the personnel listing for entire band on this recording?
Swings so hard
It's a Herbie Hancock composition that originally came out on his "Maiden Voyage" LP in quintet form in 1965. It's a great track but of course not a big band number. It's on YT.
But it is, listen to this video again
That Kenny Garrett playing sax solo!!
@JROB1989 yup
Woooo Kenny!
A very young joe lovano. Joe is a monster.
Encore!
Is that Tom Harrell on 2nd trumpet or just a look like?
I think it's Tom but I was wondering the same thing
Peter Erskine on tenor sax...
Is that Tom Warrenton on the bass? From Buddy's band?
Dennis Irwin.
Yes it is indeed Bob Mintzer .
yup it's dickie oatts
Yes, that is Tom.
Anyone know what sizes Mel's slingerlands were?
I don't get it. Can you be more specific?
Hey Bob, is there a full recording of this concert?
There's a record Mel Lewis Plays the Music of Herbie Hancock. On the album, it's actually Dick Oatts. the album was recorded at Montreaux. GREAT record and it's on iTunes now. was out of print for a LONG time
it's kenny on 2nd. but Oatts is the man
It's not the same recording but it is the same tune
@@jrobinsondrums Interesting to hear how Kenny plays it versus Dick Oatts. Both such wonderful saxophonists.
Yes I have the original LP with all arrangements by Mintzer on themes by Hancock; it's too marvellous
Why such orchestral greatness of yesteryear has had to be taken away from Planet Earth?
Who is the alto saxophone soloist?
Kenny Garrett - by physical appearance?
Dude can play!
Were I he ...Oh, happy day!
+wyndhl eodumegwu They're still here! Not gone yet!
+Benny Brewer
Thank you, Benny; I wish that they, as physical human beings, will never go - if it were possible.
The Mel Lewis Big Band Jazz Orchestra to which I have really made reference, is it still active as a Unit with that great sound?
I have recently seen a couple of active players from the MLJazz Orchestra leading their individual 'tet.
Yeah they still play at the Village Vanguard every week, they're called the Vanguard Jazz Orchestra now, but it's the same band. A few of the players in this video are still in it too. One of the trombone players is I know, not sure about the others.
+Benny Brewer
Thanks again, my friend.
I have therefore been happily hearing the group on a couple of occasions without realizing that it has been principally a name change.
Anyone know who is on 2nd tenor?
Nice
could you send it me? thanks i love this band:D
Dennis Irwin on bass
Bob Mintzer chart, not Thad's.
I need music score. Somebody have?..
My favourite modern jazz orchestra! Wait ... is that Kenny Garrett?
How come there's two bass bones?
Where IS Steve Coleman?
Sonny Stitt and Charlie parker have never been surpassed when it comes to sound. No living player even comes close.
bzalto When one writes the book one's voice becomes definitive
For sure, and that is precisely why I love the originators so much. I like lots of meat in the sound.
And the "best" car is still the Model A!
Fact is, though, that neither of those guys grew up in the pop and post-bop culture that Garrett did, so can't bring his hipper sound and rhythmic ideas to the playground.
It's like stating that Biederbeck must be honored first and foremost when Brecker is standing in front of you.
@katella12 = widest beat ever.. I miss Dennis
5:51
The lick refers to a certain lick that has been play a billion times by just about everyone. bah-dah dah-dah doo de daaaa.
C'est un arrangement de Bob Mintzer
and randy brecker??
Is that Joe Lovano?
Jazz French Horn!
What year is this ?
1980 MontreuxJazz Festival
🌱💙😀
nice glasses horn player
Kenny Garrett show no alto, assim como o solista do trombone.
Tom Harrell standin in the back
Yeah, I always wondered if it was extra tough for him to work in a large ensemble.
Encore!
And as we all know the song was written by Herbie Hancock.
Bob Mintzer
@deathinthewind Bob Mintzer :)
Gary Priback
not really, 3:38 is more like 4:07 and 4:11, but they are not 100% of the lick
joe levano on tenor next to Kenny