Biggest Online Poker Scam : Ultimate Bet Super User Cheating

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  • @rudycramer225
    @rudycramer225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    What a joke. You cannot tell me that if you code a superuser routine that you wouldn't set a flag to the security team, whenever it was in use. I think they were ALL in on it!

    • @raywestcoast98
      @raywestcoast98 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were. Only a few loyal human beings wouldn't use if if had the possibility to do so.

    • @naswiipp
      @naswiipp 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Including Phil Hellmuth

  • @teejay6063
    @teejay6063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    And there it is again. AQ small blind short stack, no callers, shove to steal right into KK in the big. This has been going on for moths over hundreds of tourneys. It does not end.

  • @colintimp1372
    @colintimp1372 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    There's a really easy way to fix this. First, legalize and regulate poker. Second, all sites' code must be independently verified. Third, confirmed registration. A player goes down to a reputable bank and registers their identity (which is confirmed by the bank) with a poker site. They are given a registration code; and their bank account is linked to that site. Once an identity is registered, it cannot be used again for that site. Linking to a bank account also gives the site access to recoup funds in case cheating is discovered. Using crypto only makes cheating worse.

    • @whateverittakes1673
      @whateverittakes1673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm sorry, I don't want some poker site having free and clear access to my checking account. A site shared blacklist and perhaps some kind of felony background check would suffice and even that is pushing it.

  • @stevenkupitz6942
    @stevenkupitz6942 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I've been playing poker in casinos for roughly 30 years. I had never seen this video. Frankly, from the inception of online poker and all the way until now, my belief has been that anyone playing for more than little token amounts of money online is, by definition, a total sucker. Yes, some will win money, but the above story will for 10,000% certainty be periodically if not continually be repeated. Also, if you just use simple logic, guess what the owners of these sites will do if they begin losing money? They say they are regulated, but from my perspective, when you play online, you may well be the only "live player" at your table, with the rest just computer simulations running scripts to get your money as slowly or quickly as they decide.
    Vegas now is trying to replace table games with electronic onsite versions. Anyone who plays them is an even bigger sucker. They will quote all their security, blah, blah, blah, but casinos only have one objective, and frankly their only consideration is how to maximize their profits. They will do anything to get your money, including paying off the "oversight".

  • @cjshardcorepunkmusicvault8474
    @cjshardcorepunkmusicvault8474 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mike Matasow " I want him in jail for what he did to me" - LOL - Mike went to jail. Forget jail, in the old days you cheat at poker, you were buried in a barrel out in the desert outside Las Vegas (maybe Lake Mead).

  • @Zach-lz1zh
    @Zach-lz1zh ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It’s funny, cash games i get dealt 10’s + and i’m ecstatic. Online poker, if I look down at Kings I am absolutely terrified of any action after pre flop. It’s ridiculous, it literally made me a timid poker player after losing so often to variance.

    • @webguy943
      @webguy943 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100%. Everytime i get AA in real poker im like YESS. But online i hate getting AA cuz u gotta always raise it n then ull lose.

  • @BonsjansNL
    @BonsjansNL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Still being rigged today even.

    • @babulalmarandi1243
      @babulalmarandi1243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes online

    • @plastikaaa
      @plastikaaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I get rigged all the time wanna play HU?

    • @DefundtheIRS1776
      @DefundtheIRS1776 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If your dumb enough to play online today you deserve it

  • @davidhill2020
    @davidhill2020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    On Black Friday, I had money on PokerStars, Full Tilt, Absolute and UB. I got my P* money back almost immediately, I got FT back years later, Absolute a few years after that and never got my UB money.
    Of the four, UB was easily the worst, which is why of the thousands I had everywhere else, I only had about $150 there.

  • @friend_built
    @friend_built 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Miss the golden years of online poker. I was 20-21 when this was going down, the rumors and talk on the forms was insane

    • @keesdejong5712
      @keesdejong5712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Online poker is dead

    • @aaronsmith4806
      @aaronsmith4806 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too, I was 20 and at 17 won over 10 grand in a month and then had wild swings before I got management down a little more. Then this happened.

    • @ttully
      @ttully ปีที่แล้ว

      It's coming back, I'm 30 and as a crypto advocate, and shocked to know these circles of folks (poker, crypto, gambling) are all colluding!

  • @TiagoDeecken
    @TiagoDeecken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Online poker is the greatest internet scam.

  • @davidthompson62
    @davidthompson62 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    How did the face of Ultimate Bet, Phil Hellmuth, get away from the controversy unscathed? Seems to me that should be delved into…

    • @GunRunner47
      @GunRunner47 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because he’s just that… a face.. a paid face that didn’t even play on the site

  • @thatisokay
    @thatisokay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hahaha do you guys remember when Mike Matasow said he was the most feared poker player in the world?!?!?! LOLOLOL

    • @eightballpool1598
      @eightballpool1598 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He'd crush the then and he'd crush you now thatisok.

  • @youdecide2696
    @youdecide2696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    9 months a go I had made a final table for a $6 tourney on ACR. I was first eliminated at final table and decided to watch it play out. The last 3 players were either bots or employees cheating. Will never play ACR again.

    • @daisybelle2336
      @daisybelle2336 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What was happening with the last 3?

    • @youdecide2696
      @youdecide2696 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@daisybelle2336 1 of the 3 bots raised every hand about 20 times in a row and the other 2 kept folding till busting out between the small and big blinds. My suspicion is ACR keeps the top 3 spots pay for any decent tourney. If they were legit, they would track player play for the week, tourney results etc. total scam

    • @tomcairns8189
      @tomcairns8189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@youdecide2696 Seems a bit too risky for a $6 tourney???

    • @youdecide2696
      @youdecide2696 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tomcairns8189 How is it too risky? They are unregulated, nobody to answer to. Technically, they are not breaking any laws. Scoop 1-3rd where all the $$$ in tourneys are. Total scam site, go ahead, waste your $$

    • @damianplasencia2708
      @damianplasencia2708 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@youdecide2696 lol they dont care about the prize pool of a $6 tourny...they make that much and more every day on the rake a lone...use some logic next time

  • @peterramstedt6260
    @peterramstedt6260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Probably still going on

    • @kara3960
      @kara3960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not probably, definitely.

    • @kara3960
      @kara3960 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @piet hd Time. It will come about again. Youll see it on the news. Ultimate bet is not the only site whom got caught. Many others done shady thungs got caught also. Many more to get caught as time goes on. I dont play online anymore.

  • @timothyjacobs4279
    @timothyjacobs4279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Still going on today. In America America cardroom an betonline

    • @plexsm1425
      @plexsm1425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You forgot Bovada

    • @PokrPro21
      @PokrPro21 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@plexsm1425 I second Bovada big time. F that site. I lost a lot of money there

    • @webguy943
      @webguy943 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      N global poker. All unregulated

    • @polok890
      @polok890 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      America's cardroom has to be the worst poker site by far. Literally lose every hand

  • @NICKI814
    @NICKI814 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I WANT to know how the people became red pros on full tilt poker, that weren't high and mighty like Alan cunningham, mike matusow, jennifer harman etc .

  • @zada4a
    @zada4a 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I feel like there is cheating going on in 888poker currently. There is no way to prove it, but I have seen things.

    • @baileyayyy5085
      @baileyayyy5085 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The person who got me into poker told me always assume online games are a scam. I wrote it off as him being paranoid, but at this point I think he was right all along.

  • @Playtoallwins
    @Playtoallwins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    WHY the DoJ didn t put all this guys in jail!!??

  • @richardwarren537
    @richardwarren537 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Every single legit player on these sites should have had ALL their deposits paid back to them too

  • @stupadasol5911
    @stupadasol5911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The best way to win at poker for the average person is NOT play.

    • @AleksanteriR
      @AleksanteriR 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends, anyone can win if they put the effort to it. Just like any other hobby in life

  • @igor6815
    @igor6815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    If he was less greedy, letting players win some hands and only get reasonable win rate with some tournaments he wouldn't get caught. Only reason they got caught is because super user had way too High win rate

    • @DoctorChained
      @DoctorChained 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does it even matter? Ultimate no longer exists. He got the maximum for the short amount of time it did exist. Not like he could keep cheating now.

    • @raywestcoast98
      @raywestcoast98 ปีที่แล้ว

      Creedy motherfuckers. Thats it..

  • @methodmantis3060
    @methodmantis3060 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I still remember watching the episode of 60 Minutes where they interviewed Dan Druff about this.
    Shoutout to any OG NeverWinPoker alumni.

    • @wademansfield8981
      @wademansfield8981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are a donk

    • @babulalmarandi1243
      @babulalmarandi1243 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Sofa King its called sixth sense.
      Dumbass. Its the same thing you professional use when studying(sixth sense) Keep donating.

    • @babulalmarandi1243
      @babulalmarandi1243 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's no definition for this dumb illusive game.
      Go do some real things.
      Don't waste your time and brain.
      I'm a professional and it is rigged.
      Buy i will not blow whistle cos I'm being fed with good money.

  • @DefundtheIRS1776
    @DefundtheIRS1776 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember playing on full tilt briefly. Can’t tell you how many times I saw short stacks get kings and big stack get aces in tournaments

  • @davidthompson62
    @davidthompson62 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if Russ Hamilton just disappeared from the face of the earth. There are some people you don’t screw with

    • @desirejohnson2124
      @desirejohnson2124 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We can only hope

    • @davidthompson62
      @davidthompson62 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@desirejohnson2124 Yep but he’s to arrogant and stupid to realize it.

  • @JollyRogerProductions
    @JollyRogerProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    People keep making this documentary and I keep watching it.

  • @selkyrk7817
    @selkyrk7817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    PokerBounty! This is the last video you got and I'm watching it... The people and I demand more poker videos! I look forward to more. How about a Anthony Zinno, Darren Elias and Noah Schwartz documentary...?

  • @johnrupesh4535
    @johnrupesh4535 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "I was the most feared poker player in the world" Classic Matusao.

    • @weston9106
      @weston9106 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought the same thing 🤦‍♂️ classic mouth

  • @babulalmarandi1243
    @babulalmarandi1243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Newer sites also use scripted bots to generate action.

  • @littlebylittle1686
    @littlebylittle1686 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did something similar happen with full tilt as well? It used to be massive.

  • @joythug37
    @joythug37 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Prahlad got so disturbed in the head after this that he left poker and became an unknown rapper ... Mike The Mouth lost his mouth and never recovered it ...

  • @jeanneymarrigged3302
    @jeanneymarrigged3302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Online poker is a scam

  • @SleepyWombat9696
    @SleepyWombat9696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm sure their all rigged . I started keeping a spreadsheet of hands I lost to those that I'd win. The amount of times I would go all in and get called by someone with nothing and they would still win. It was so bad I could call what cards would come up for them to win and they would.

    • @bentremblay4282
      @bentremblay4282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      im pretty sure we got all POKERSCAM

    • @willnestor6422
      @willnestor6422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not that I think online poker is rigged as I honestly don't know but I started recording my all in pre flop hands that were 66%+ favoured and lost more than half of the time with over 100 hands. Obviously not a big sample size but still extremely unlikely to lose 50/100 when you're 66% favourite everytime.

    • @northernbloke6787
      @northernbloke6787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You need a 1,000,000 hands before the sample size is big enough to tell if there is a discrepancies in expected results.

    • @chadwellington2524
      @chadwellington2524 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@northernbloke6787 lmao, do you realize how much live play that is? You need your whole life to test variance?

    • @northernbloke6787
      @northernbloke6787 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chadwellington2524 I know, I'm just saying that variance is unimaginably vast, you could get a straight flush twice in a row and never get one again quite comfortably, the maths of the variance only comes into line with expected results over millions of hands because each event is independent of the last. It's like the tossing a coun you can get six heads in a tow despite it being 50/50.

  • @davidmaxwell6718
    @davidmaxwell6718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I only heard about this in passing. Good video and it confirms why I only play on line with fake money. I know cheating on line is easy but I play on line because if you can win with no states you can win anywhere. That's because the luck factor is soo much higher.

  • @marllomon
    @marllomon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mike MAtusow won the Main in 2005?

  • @itsnessuno6972
    @itsnessuno6972 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Poker online is rigged even in 2023.. plus now some casinos rig even live poker. I suggest yall when play live cover the camera on your sit whit your phone in front of it stay safe ppl

    • @webguy943
      @webguy943 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree some live casinos r rigged too. Its the shufflers they can be programed.

  • @Seb726Laviolette
    @Seb726Laviolette 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Got to love online poker 😂
    how tf did he not get jail time!?!? Should of gotten minimun 10-15 years!!

    • @aaronsmith4806
      @aaronsmith4806 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah ruined lives. It’s pretty bad if he’s a nobody but to be successful and still ruin lives cheating is just disgusting

  • @pentu7738
    @pentu7738 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    like the tool ivy got from full tilt back in the days

  • @shivasirons6159
    @shivasirons6159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IF i was to use it i would simply play my game and when the other guy shoved when that 3rd club rivered then i would peek, but if im dealt 94 off from mp im folding. In other words i would hardly use it.

  • @iv-kingroy-iv2225
    @iv-kingroy-iv2225 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Soooo... In Matusow's mind, he won the 05 main event, not Joe Hachem. 4:50😂

  • @aaronsmith4806
    @aaronsmith4806 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ultimate bet was the site that wanted crypto deposits as well. I once had 10 Bitcoin or so which was maybe 2 grand then. The double whammy

  • @robbiereekie3694
    @robbiereekie3694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    'The most feared no-limit poker player in the world' Mike 'the mouth' Matasow...

    • @friend_built
      @friend_built 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only if we go back to 1999

    • @robbiereekie3694
      @robbiereekie3694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@friend_built was he though, even then?

    • @DixiePokerAce
      @DixiePokerAce 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Mouth was pretty good but he drugs and a lack of self control put his rise to a halt.

    • @johnhennessy4422
      @johnhennessy4422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@robbiereekie3694 there was definitely a few consecutive years where he went very deep in the wsop main i remember

    • @sayeourselves
      @sayeourselves 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes mike was definitely considered the top NLH player in the world for a year or two

  • @chevroletcar364
    @chevroletcar364 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is sports betting online a rigged site?

  • @Adrian-hb5rb
    @Adrian-hb5rb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I hate playing online ... but I guess with this covid stuff they make loads more money

  • @jordanmuller2735
    @jordanmuller2735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    All those sites are rigged.funny how I’m up thousands in real life,and down thousands online.

    • @sinofinance
      @sinofinance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      same bro... shit is rigged 100%

    • @hankrogers4020
      @hankrogers4020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Online is much harder than live so of course you could be winner live and a loser online. Try taking responsibility for your online losses and play better

    • @jordanmuller2735
      @jordanmuller2735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@hankrogers4020 oh,and which online poker site do you work for?

    • @endbfududb
      @endbfududb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hankrogers4020 I bet nobody in your life likes you.

    • @colincoyne7199
      @colincoyne7199 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know this is 9 months old but I wouldn’t be as harsh to say, “online is hard try not to suck.” But online is definitely totally different so to come to the only conclusion that “all those sites are rigged” because of the different earnings seems extreme

  • @saicaron8802
    @saicaron8802 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just watched documentary few days ago about that scandal

  • @polok890
    @polok890 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I lost all my play money on ub, couldn't win

  • @martinedwards4522
    @martinedwards4522 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what happened to ferguson and lederers involvement?

    • @PokerBounty
      @PokerBounty  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was in the full tilt poker scam

    • @martinedwards4522
      @martinedwards4522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PokerBounty thanks, but still... lost all respect for them... hellmuth , duke, also

  • @IronB2
    @IronB2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wouldnt hurt to have named the Lawyers recorded in that tape eh?

    • @brandoncohen2754
      @brandoncohen2754 ปีที่แล้ว

      One is apparently Daniel Friedberg of recent crypto scandal fame for having been the chief regulatory officer for FTX. But I assume you knew that.

    • @IronB2
      @IronB2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brandoncohen2754 Yeah I just meant.. name them in the video.

  • @TSeries502
    @TSeries502 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Every site cheats and imagine how worse its going to get with AI

  • @beepurplepoker6839
    @beepurplepoker6839 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hell yes poker bounty

  • @TraciDomino-pj5vi
    @TraciDomino-pj5vi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I work hard for my money like other people and I play on this city I should get my money back and everyone else

  • @48tilt
    @48tilt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Michael Josem the Australian is the hero

  • @Tynnyri_
    @Tynnyri_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Runescape

  • @march9807
    @march9807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    U have to assume this happens on all sites!! Play live lol.

  • @lennoxlex5457
    @lennoxlex5457 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    MAN I MISS THESE DAYS..........FUCKING BUSH

  • @Mizai
    @Mizai 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now i know

  • @atxchaser
    @atxchaser 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can you do an expose on Johnathan Little and how he got busted for letting others use his online account right after he went pro online and was on tv playing at the same time?!

    • @carpetbilly
      @carpetbilly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is that even true? I didnt know he did that? He has a popular TH-cam channel now

    • @atxchaser
      @atxchaser 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carpetbilly Go to his coffee am stream anytime and ask him. He or his chronies will say "ive apologized and its in the past." OR look at PR when his site fired him after only months. But to what extent can we so easily forget it? Does ethics still matter and if so, to what extent?

    • @carpetbilly
      @carpetbilly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@atxchaser I will check it out... but why would u give his account away? wouldnt he be afraid that his colleagues would lose his money playing online? I mean no matter how good a pro is, I would never give them my account to play for me lol

    • @da3v1ls93
      @da3v1ls93 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you do a video? Sounds like a great one

    • @pjky
      @pjky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's not a big deal. His friends probably wanted a no-rake game and he's happy to make the hourly wage . Unethical yes. Doesn't compare to Hamilton stealing tens of millions

  • @whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306
    @whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know when I play the free ones I win a lot. So the ones for real money seem rigged with bots etc.

  • @gallowdwg123
    @gallowdwg123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No jail time???

    • @insanity4462
      @insanity4462 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And now we know what prison is really for: cheap labor.
      It makes more sense to bring in young male weed smokers than some fat fuck who scams people out of money. There are limited spots in the prison and you need to fill them with hard workers.

  • @mitcheze
    @mitcheze 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Annie Duke disliked this video 8 times. what a Cee you en tee

  • @VengerSatanis
    @VengerSatanis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cha'alt!

  • @ChuckieManioItsReallyMe
    @ChuckieManioItsReallyMe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Matusow was the most feared poker player in the world? Yeah, and Trump won 2020.

    • @bozapub3507
      @bozapub3507 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      HE SAID FEARLESS .LIKE HE WAS NOT AFRAID TO PULL THE TRIGGER ,SOMETING U NEED IN YOUR GAME TO BE A WINNING PLAYER .AND BY GETTING CHEATED AND GUY CALL U LIGHT EVERY TIME U PULL THE TRIGGER BECOUSE HE CAN SEE UR FUCKING CARDS IT MAKES THE TIGHT AND SCARY PLAYER IDIOTS LAUGH AT TODAY .

    • @DoctorChained
      @DoctorChained 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bozapub3507 You don't need to be "fearless" to be winning in 1/2 and 2/5. Donks are pathetically bad. Play good straightforward poker and you'll easily be a winning player.

    • @bozapub3507
      @bozapub3507 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DoctorChained who mentioned 1/2-2/5 !? We not talking about me here we talking about Mike . If u can't keep up be quiet.

    • @albinomma
      @albinomma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You know, as a poker player and a DEMOCRAT voter(just to be clear) I don't care who wins the heads up, I care whether one player was cheating and being enabled to cheat. EVERY VOTER is in the political poker tournament, but half took bad beats a few years ago to one of the heads up players this year so, they decided to help their opponent win by cheating and breaking rules.
      Again, im a Democrat, but cheating is cheating. There's 200,000 more votes cast in Georgia than registered voters. I voted for biden, but if Trump legit won Georgia then he won.
      Cheating is wrong. We all know it.

    • @DoctorChained
      @DoctorChained 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@albinomma There's no way a democrat is stupid enough to think that BS.