Currently reading Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger's Introduction to Christianity in my senior theology class. The text can be difficult to navigate but the profoundness of the ideas in the text are an incredible journey into trying to understand thoughts that have been lost to man over the last five hundred years.
Well played sir, planting him with Ratzinger. I wonder how much this is responsible for his journey towards Christianity and more precisely Catholicism
LOL - th-cam.com/video/txuWGoZF3ew/w-d-xo.html - It's the most iconic hand-shake greeting in human history. I felt that it was okay to use the coarse language, because there is at least 1 classroom lecture in which Jordan uses the phrase "son of a bitch" to express anger, while telling an anecdotal story.
It sounded to me like Jordan was about to say that Ratzinger hypothesized that man is "in and of itself..." good(?) or intrinsically good or enough but then Jordan jumped to state that the modern idea that one ought to accept oneself as they are, is insane etc. as though that was Ratzingers idea too. What did you make of that? Great video by the way, thanks for posting.
It's very clear how Ratzinger describes "humanity" as being a question, specifically an unanswered question, which can only complete it's purpose by striving toward an ideal which is infinitely greater. Of course, in the eyes of Ratzinger, this abstract ideal is more "REAL" than the ground we are standing on. *(The person, in and of himself, does not possess the capacity to answer the "humanity question," and thus cannot justify his own existence from within.) Jordan is a brilliant speaker, but in this particular instance he switched gears into showing how the opposite of Ratzinger's analysis is articulated in modern thought by teaching that you should *(Accept yourself, as you are, because the abstract ideal which you yearn for is a sociological power-game construct, which does not exist.) It is explicitly NOT Ratzinger's idea that you are good enough as you are. The Great Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger is NOT a Post-Modern Neo-Marxist Radical-Left Egalitarian. Ratzinger is the 180 degrees, exact, polar opposite of "insane". Conclusion: "I want to write like Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger."
It's just the de facto convention for the nomenclature of high-ranking religious prelates in the Roman Catholic Church. It would be like saying Doctor Peterson, or Jordan Doctor Peterson. That is the way his name appears on many of the books he has written.
Introduction to Christianity 2nd Edition - Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger - End of Page 105. books.google.ca/books/about/Introduction_to_Christianity.html?id=vA10DgAAQBAJ&redir_esc=y You can read a few pages through that link to get into it. On the first page of the preface, the cardinal has this to say, "We need only to recall how little was said about the horrors of the Communist gulag, how isolated Solzhenitsyn's voice remained: No one speaks about any of that. A sort of shame forbids it; even Pol Pot's murderous regime is mentioned only occasionally in passing. But there was still disappointment and a deep-seated perplexity. People no longer trust grand moral promises, and after all, that is what Marxism had understood itself to be. It was about justice for all, about peace, about doing away with unfair master-servant relationships and so on." It would be amazing to watch Jordan Peterson interview Pope Benedict XVI. Read the book, it will change you.
Um... That guy should clean his room, rearrange it, give away his possessions, paint it, clean it again, and never use the phrase son of a bitch until he has the cleanest room of rooms in Plato's world of ideas
They talk about the 10% of the human population who you and I are in.they have the luxury to question such ideas.really the bottom line is the underprivileged preaching to the less fortunate
Considering Ratzinger is quoting Nietzsche, what a banal and verbose way to say man seeks progress. Why anyone would aspire to write like Ratzinger baffles me.. perhaps it's some attempt to grasp at words that speak to the human nature but sometimes you just have to spit it out
You know who else quotes Nietzsche? JORDAN PETERSON. Precise language, word selection, narrative structure, clear thinking, and the ability to elicit an emotional response... This is not an insurance policy, it is a literary work of art. Both myself and Jordan Peterson, we both like art. Art is not something which you can just "spit out".
JohnPaul Adamovsky I meant that Nietzsche is incredibly precise with his language, "he writes what others write in a book in 10 sentences". Ratzinger writes one sentence in 10 sentences. That being said, I'm a fan of comedy where one extraneous syllable could ruin the whole bit.
etagged With respect (because I’m not trying to spark any rage on this comment) I am wondering whether you ever read Ratzinger? If not, I would encourage you to (whether you agree with him or not on the subject you read) because I think you’ll find that he writes with incredible clarity, precision and beauty much like Nietzsche (whether you agree with him or not on the subject you read).
Currently reading Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger's Introduction to Christianity in my senior theology class. The text can be difficult to navigate but the profoundness of the ideas in the text are an incredible journey into trying to understand thoughts that have been lost to man over the last five hundred years.
paul fedorenko i will seatch for this book
Am reading it for the third time ...wonderful read ...needs a bit of reflection and background.
Ratzinger is one of the greatest intellects of our time
Agreed.
false, he is greatest.
probably the best theologian
Well played sir, planting him with Ratzinger. I wonder how much this is responsible for his journey towards Christianity and more precisely Catholicism
I loved your your opening salutation to JBP mate! Fine impression, solid quote and a couple of great questions!
LOL - th-cam.com/video/txuWGoZF3ew/w-d-xo.html - It's the most iconic hand-shake greeting in human history. I felt that it was okay to use the coarse language, because there is at least 1 classroom lecture in which Jordan uses the phrase "son of a bitch" to express anger, while telling an anecdotal story.
I think the whole interaction is brilliant. "I'm not too bad. You got a question!?" You're a legend JohnPaul!
It sounded to me like Jordan was about to say that Ratzinger hypothesized that man is "in and of itself..." good(?) or intrinsically good or enough but then Jordan jumped to state that the modern idea that one ought to accept oneself as they are, is insane etc. as though that was Ratzingers idea too. What did you make of that?
Great video by the way, thanks for posting.
It's very clear how Ratzinger describes "humanity" as being a question, specifically an unanswered question, which can only complete it's purpose by striving toward an ideal which is infinitely greater. Of course, in the eyes of Ratzinger, this abstract ideal is more "REAL" than the ground we are standing on. *(The person, in and of himself, does not possess the capacity to answer the "humanity question," and thus cannot justify his own existence from within.) Jordan is a brilliant speaker, but in this particular instance he switched gears into showing how the opposite of Ratzinger's analysis is articulated in modern thought by teaching that you should *(Accept yourself, as you are, because the abstract ideal which you yearn for is a sociological power-game construct, which does not exist.) It is explicitly NOT Ratzinger's idea that you are good enough as you are. The Great Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger is NOT a Post-Modern Neo-Marxist Radical-Left Egalitarian. Ratzinger is the 180 degrees, exact, polar opposite of "insane". Conclusion: "I want to write like Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger."
May he rest in peace. Thanks to God for his work.
Great Pope
God! These are remarkble good questions.
What's the name of the book Jordan mentioned?
Great one.
But why do you call him "Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger"?
It's just the de facto convention for the nomenclature of high-ranking religious prelates in the Roman Catholic Church. It would be like saying Doctor Peterson, or Jordan Doctor Peterson. That is the way his name appears on many of the books he has written.
Cardinal always does between the christian and last names.
Bring back pope Benedict
Hi JohnPaul - Could you tell me which book that paragraph was from? I would love to read the whole thing :)
Introduction to Christianity 2nd Edition - Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger - End of Page 105.
books.google.ca/books/about/Introduction_to_Christianity.html?id=vA10DgAAQBAJ&redir_esc=y
You can read a few pages through that link to get into it. On the first page of the preface, the cardinal has this to say, "We need only to recall how little was said about the horrors of the Communist gulag, how isolated Solzhenitsyn's voice remained: No one speaks about any of that. A sort of shame forbids it; even Pol Pot's murderous regime is mentioned only occasionally in passing. But there was still disappointment and a deep-seated perplexity. People no longer trust grand moral promises, and after all, that is what Marxism had understood itself to be. It was about justice for all, about peace, about doing away with unfair master-servant relationships and so on."
It would be amazing to watch Jordan Peterson interview Pope Benedict XVI.
Read the book, it will change you.
The beginning 😂
Um... That guy should clean his room, rearrange it, give away his possessions, paint it, clean it again, and never use the phrase son of a bitch until he has the cleanest room of rooms in Plato's world of ideas
They talk about the 10% of the human population who you and I are in.they have the luxury to question such ideas.really the bottom line is the underprivileged preaching to the less fortunate
Considering Ratzinger is quoting Nietzsche, what a banal and verbose way to say man seeks progress. Why anyone would aspire to write like Ratzinger baffles me.. perhaps it's some attempt to grasp at words that speak to the human nature but sometimes you just have to spit it out
You know who else quotes Nietzsche? JORDAN PETERSON. Precise language, word selection, narrative structure, clear thinking, and the ability to elicit an emotional response... This is not an insurance policy, it is a literary work of art. Both myself and Jordan Peterson, we both like art. Art is not something which you can just "spit out".
JohnPaul Adamovsky I meant that Nietzsche is incredibly precise with his language, "he writes what others write in a book in 10 sentences". Ratzinger writes one sentence in 10 sentences. That being said, I'm a fan of comedy where one extraneous syllable could ruin the whole bit.
JohnPaul Adamovsky Try reading Durkheim and then reading Piaget, Piaget is a breath of fresh air.
etagged With respect (because I’m not trying to spark any rage on this comment) I am wondering whether you ever read Ratzinger? If not, I would encourage you to (whether you agree with him or not on the subject you read) because I think you’ll find that he writes with incredible clarity, precision and beauty much like Nietzsche (whether you agree with him or not on the subject you read).