Aaron Jones: Introduction To Freenet

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  • Presented at the Phoenix Linux Users Group's Security Session on February 15th 2018 by Aaron Jones.
    Learn about Freenet and why it is pretty cool. We will be discussing how Freenet can increase your privacy, enhance your security, and reduce major corporations from being able to track you or use your browsing habits for their profits. We will also be discussing what Freenet is not, what vulnerabilities exist, and how it can be used to harm you as well.
    For more Information or to follow along with the slides go to:
    retro64xyz.git...
    About Aaron:
    Aaron is an experienced Linux user with several years of teaching experience. He works in the industry as a software developer while also providing consultancy on cyber security related topics. His discussions are AZ Post certified for training credit for law enforcement and he prides himself on providing quality educational material that is relevant and topical. He has a Masters Degree in Intelligence Analysis with a focus in Cyber Security, is a life long learner, and prides himself on staying up to date with the ever changing field of cyber security.
    If you like what you see here, the Phoenix Linux Users Group meets several times a month. Please visit PhxLinux.org for meeting times and locations then come see the presentations live and uncut.
    Any discussion of paid services or software will be done for educational purposes only. Neither the instructor, PLUG, or any one involved in this course endorses any paid services or products discussed at this meeting.

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  • @ilusions4
    @ilusions4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The question at the end about China's firewall may have seemed irrelevant, but it was really useful for me. Thanks for including it.

  • @JohnLooney-wq6jp
    @JohnLooney-wq6jp ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There needs to be an update to the discussion about the legal cases with Freenet. Listening to your comments about the case at 1:19:22 and pointing out the source code implies that the issue is resolved. It is not. Black Ice and the referenced case was focusing on the HTL counter. Freenet sends out a request with a Hops To Live counter to determine when to stop forwarding a request. The default is 18, so if (they claimed) you got a request with a HTL of 18 you must be connected to the original requestor. This would then identify the Freenet user as attempting to download an illegal file and would provide probable cause for a search. The Freenet Project responded with the rebuttal that you showed, but the search still took place. The calculations and the current government approach is based upon a 2017 paper by Dr. Brian Levine titled "Statistical Detection of Downloaders in Freenet" -Levine- May 2017. However, the government continues to use a false approach to identify a downloader of a file. They now claim that they can identify a Freenet user as the original requestor, and not a simple relayer of requests, based only upon knowing the number of peers of the suspect, the minimum number of blocks required (from the file manifest) and the number of requests received by the government node. They assume a false representation of Freenet routing as 'even share' where the suspect node will take the total number of requests required from the manifest (assume 1000 for a 32,000KB file) and divide by the number of peers (assume 10) and distribute an even share of requests, 100 here to each peer. This allows the government node to have an expectation of the number of requests that would be received from the original requestor, and therefore identify the downloader. They claim that this method will result in a flase positive only 2% of the time, and Levine ran 26,000 tests. We know that Freenet does not route requests this way, but are hung up on the statistical equations in the Levine paper. Levine has generated an updated paper titled "A Forensically Sound Method of Identifying Downloaders and Uploaders In Freenet" - Levine Nov 2020 3372297.3417876. The Freenet Project has responded with the following paper "The discredited Levine 2017 approach is still used" - 2022 available on the Freenet Project website. We know of 3 cases in Wisconsin, 2 cases in NY, 1 case in Ohio, and the case you referenced in Missouri. Would appreciate any comments.

  • @caster863
    @caster863 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    We need a free internet in order to maintain our freedom and way of life.

    • @charliebrownau
      @charliebrownau 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Can anyone on the planet be free as long as we have - Federal National Goverment, Taxation, Central banks , Armed order enforcers?

    • @thomas.thomas
      @thomas.thomas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charliebrownau Can anyone on the planet be free as long as we have society?

  • @AjarnSpencer
    @AjarnSpencer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank You Aaron for your contribution to protecting the future of the integrity of the internet. I have experienced the censorship and silencing, as well as being abducted and framed due to publishing information that exposed the unethical actions of certain powerful individuals/groups, and Internet Censorship and Social Profiling / Personal Profile Categorizing (political, religious, and other views). I see ads for things i never typed, and just mentioned in the room per mouth to ear, but the microphone on my face-down sleeping phone has somehow told Facebook, Google and the rest, what i was talking about. Freenet and Tor and Kali Linux, Github, and related tools seems to be the way to go for privacy, as well as learning to see who is seeing us, and to catch those whose intentions are not pure. Yes, dot onion, tor, freenet, etc can be used unethically or ethically, but at least privacy from the big data collectors like Facebook and Google can be minimized, and access to the free web (falsely propagandized as 'the dark web', as there are both good and bad things to be found there.. it isn't all bad, there are places where free speech can be exercised)

  • @mark8200
    @mark8200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great presentation, thanks for the info.

  • @vyrva5690
    @vyrva5690 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    from an aaron to another aaron, very cool

  • @joelmontesdeoca6572
    @joelmontesdeoca6572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So Aaron doesn't run Freenet on his home computers to not tip off others that he is using the network BUT he publicly promotes the tools and says he uses the service and how he uses it... ??? ...

  • @Alkis05
    @Alkis05 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for posting this. Very interesting. I'm also interested in GNUnet, but it is still in development.

    • @gatesroyale
      @gatesroyale 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alkis05 In idea how to get into the dark web?

    • @Alkis05
      @Alkis05 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would recomend Tor's hidden services, since that is the one I'm most familiar with.
      google tor project. Just follow the tutorial to install the Tor browser (a modified version of firefox) and is pretty easy to setup.
      I will just warn you that because the way Tor works, it is slower than normal browsing, with higher latency.
      After you have the browser up and running you can start looking for Tor's hidden servers. There is no google or any search engine in darknet, so you will have to do some exploring on your own. There are index sites, like in the old days of the internet, where webmasters can post links to their sites. Start by checking them out

    • @spooby4212
      @spooby4212 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Alkis05 ISP can shut off your inet for using TOR!

    • @gruponemesis
      @gruponemesis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spooby4212 wow!!! i figured it would come to that....why dont they shutdown freenet?

    • @Alkis05
      @Alkis05 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spooby4212 Not mine. I don't live in the US. I don't think even in the US they can do that. Are you talking about literally shutdown your internet or some kind of traffic shaping.

  • @dontmindme8709
    @dontmindme8709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 5:35 the topic of privacy is brought up, but how can Freenet realistically protect ones privacy? I agree with how _"privacy is a counterweight to the amount of force that others can exert on us without our consent",_ but with Freenet's absolute information permanence, isn't privacy practically impossible? If someone doxxes you or exposes sensitive/harmful information about you, you are completely powerless to prevent that. When someone can anonymously and without consequences *permanently* breach your privacy then isn't that _increasing_ the force that others can exert on us?

  • @ricardo03670
    @ricardo03670 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The world has evolved and you have not yet created the Android version. she is missing from this project.
    thanks.

  • @bluesquare23
    @bluesquare23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    56:19 Modern versions of rm on Linux actually wont let you to delete the root like this without first providing the --no-preserve-root flag. But on FreeBSD you can still accidentally torch root with rm. Found that out the hard way one day.

  • @ChristopherGray00
    @ChristopherGray00 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video thanks

  • @counciloflight9722
    @counciloflight9722 ปีที่แล้ว

    such a cute penguin in the intro

  • @arthurtheone7527
    @arthurtheone7527 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is anyone down here is using Jolla phones, or Sailfish OS? What is your option about in in terms of privacy?

  • @darrinlong8038
    @darrinlong8038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good stuff how about 2022 update.

  • @porky1118
    @porky1118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I also hate, when people pretend to support free speech, but want to ban other people.
    It's like, when their opinions were the minority, they supported these projects, and now their opinions start to become mainstream, so they stop supporting free speech.
    So there probably have been two groups with similar views about free speech. One half just wanted to have free speech because they want more power, the other half has free speech as an ideal.
    And I guess, since they lived in the same bubbles for years, their opinions on most topics are similar.
    So it must have been a shock, when there is a disagreement at such a fundamental level.
    I think, most of them are leftist anarchists, but some of them mainly leftist, and some mainly anarchists.
    And nowadays people on the right are accused to only support free speech because of their current situation.
    But even if that's true, you don't support free speech, if you blame them.
    This shift is probably part of the reason, why I feel more comfortable with political right people nowadays.

    • @nonnobissolum
      @nonnobissolum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yer not wrong, Porky11. Yer not wrong.

    • @AcidiFy574
      @AcidiFy574 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually The right loves censoring everyone
      They did it when they were in power & created the infrastructures for that
      The left does it because they're infected by feminists & women police speech all the time
      The right are the original "woke" people

  • @spooby4212
    @spooby4212 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So you, Arron, as a U.S.A. police agent of govt, say that: " it's ok to steal a guys laptop?" which was then used to catch the same guy who made silk road? Ive been watching ur videos and don't know silk road story, so please share a link plz!?

    • @Retro64XYZ
      @Retro64XYZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The comments here won't allow me to share a link but google the words 'silk road laptop grab' and you should find the story fairly quickly. Sorry!

    • @fuzzytincan
      @fuzzytincan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      th-cam.com/video/GpMP6Nh3FvU/w-d-xo.html

  • @realbabychad
    @realbabychad 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hello sir ! do Marianas Web exists ? please clarify?

    • @Retro64XYZ
      @Retro64XYZ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hi. I am the guy in the video above. The idea of a 'deeper' web where hidden or secret information exists is more of a click bait item than something tangible. Are there people doing illegal things online or running communities that could be considered 'secret'? Absolutely. But that is rare and difficult to hide. Sex trafficking is an example that comes to mind. There are web sites that are purposefully hidden and distributed by word of mouth where you can purchase drug addicts and children. That is a hidden and secret thing that is not easily found on search engines without knowing specific terminology or phrases to assist in finding it.

    • @realbabychad
      @realbabychad 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks 😇

    • @spooby4212
      @spooby4212 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Retro64XYZ Aaron? Plz reread these comments and provide education about legal vs lawful or how to inform the isp in the U.S.A. about the laws it is breaking when they deny services their paying customer? Rights or Privileges?

    • @Retro64XYZ
      @Retro64XYZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spooby4212 Hey, I'm note entirely sure what you mean by this comment. Sorry but I think you are looking for my opinion on if the right to information is a right or a privilege? I think in many videos I have made the comment but I can state with confidence that I feel that information should be free and censorship in all forms is absolutely wrong. Shall not be infringed. Contacting your local ISP is much harder and more of a loosing battle. Learn to use the tools that keeps the ISP off your back without informing them. Does this help?

  • @jongdonglu
    @jongdonglu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wait did he just say hes with the police?? why the hell would i trust anything from the police or gov?

  • @luk3z861
    @luk3z861 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do I need this ? Tor could be better.

  • @SkywalkerWroc
    @SkywalkerWroc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is achieving the same goals #Web5 does, only without billionaire behind it

  • @AlessandroMesseni
    @AlessandroMesseni ปีที่แล้ว

    cosa indica, sto cazhzo indica, non installa

  •  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is he alone in that room?

    • @BrianCluff
      @BrianCluff  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's usually between 30 and 50 people in the room during presentations.

  • @ebuzertahakanat
    @ebuzertahakanat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what the fuck is wrong with using java it is the one of the most secure runtime that exist.

  • @destroyer2973
    @destroyer2973 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I had to pick a hosting provider, i would pick one like incognet that does not require any personal info to sign up and accepts cryptocurrency.

    • @AcidiFy574
      @AcidiFy574 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about domains ???

    • @destroyer2973
      @destroyer2973 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They have anonymous domain name registration. What happens if you pay them and the domain name is registered in their name, not yours.

  • @LLPOF
    @LLPOF 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's a floppy? :-)

    • @Retro64XYZ
      @Retro64XYZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      =) The Elegant Weapon for a More Civilized Age. Hahaha...

    • @bitTorrenter
      @bitTorrenter 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      A Floppy Dick. What else?

    • @edstar83
      @edstar83 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Okay zoomer

  • @densidste9137
    @densidste9137 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    when you cant even understand when he say "talk " three sentences in its gonna be an rough 2 hour video ..
    he did it again 2:20 what is wrong with this guy.

  • @fallenslave6684
    @fallenslave6684 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    With the liberals... It is better to know this freenet

    • @AcidiFy574
      @AcidiFy574 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's the right that censors not the left
      The left are too busy caring about pronouns so they're harmless

  • @mcmurdostation7134
    @mcmurdostation7134 ปีที่แล้ว

    Censorship free internet but without protections from the feds? Or anonymity