In the videos of Diana's talks with her vocal coach, she admits slapping her father. Giggling about it, she also admits to pushing Raine down the stairs! Diana was lucky that Raine wasn't seriously injured.
I firmly believe that all the Spencers had deep personality problems that were covered up by stiff-upper-lip rearing. This undermined Diana's relationship with Charles and was part of the reason their marriage spiraled downward.
Exactly! Combine that with KCIII's privileged upbringing he wasn't able to offer any empathy or compassion. They were gasoline & matches from the beginning. I always thought the real problem was Lady Fermoy & the Queen Mum who set the whole thin up!
KC3 wasn't exactly innocent in that. As soon as he got off the boat from the honeymoon, he was off to sit in a marsh for a month of painting. Neither one of them were exactly emotionally stable or had healthy coping skills.
Many years ago, maybe the 1960's, Barbara Cartland used to have a regular summer holiday at a huntin', shootin' and fishin' lodge in Scotland near where I lived. One day I was looking in a beauty shop window when a figure beside me made a comment about the eyeshadows on display. I turned and there was Barbara looking so much larger than life that I was stunned. Dressed in a brown tweed suit, with brown knitted ankle socks over thick stockings and brown brogue shoes, one could not ignore the blonde bouffant hairdo, the powdery makeup, the lipstick, the bright blue eyeshadow and false eyelashes. From the neck down, dressed for the country life, from the neck up for a glamorous evening in London. However, Barbara Cartland was a well known figure locally and made great friends with some local people, so really she was a genuine and respected character.
Two points in Barbara Cartland’s favour. During the WWII she got all her aristocratic friends to donate their couture wedding gowns, which Barbara Cartland then made available to any woman in the services who was getting married ( remember clothing was tightly rationed so getting a new wedding dress was very difficult ) imagine the thrill for a girl of modest means putting aside her army uniform to slip into a Paris couture wedding gown! Barbara was also a determined advocate for gipsies in the UK, she lobbied long and hard to make sure they had sites set aside for them and were treated fairly.
That’s so true about rationed clothing, fabric, lace, silk stockings, food, etc. during and after WWII ended. My MIL was a “war bride” from Italy, and her village, Eboli, was bombed and completely destroyed. Her family lost everything, fled the Nazi’s, and hid and lived in mountain caves for 6 months. When the war ended, my FIL’s parents sent the wedding bands, wedding gown, veil, undergarments, silk stockings, wedding shoes, “something old, something blue” from the US to Italy for their December 1945 wedding. The whole village was invited to the wedding. They followed on foot the bride-to-be and her family to the church for the wedding ceremony and then followed the married couple back to a cleared out area decorated for the outdoor reception. Everyone brought a dish made with whatever food items they could get their hands on. A young German POW being held at a nearby US Army encampment nearby, befriended my FIL and baked and decorated the wedding cake. He had been an apprentice pastry chef before being conscripted in Hitler’s war. It was a happy day despite all the destruction that surrounded them.
I heard (I think from Lady C) that Earl Spencer had a terrible temper and was violent with Francis and that’s why she left. Her mother couldn’t accept the shame of her daughter walking out and sided with Earl Spencer in the divorce proceedings. That’s why she never got custody. Apparently his temper was notorious!!!
I also read that about Spencer's cruelty to his wife , initially because she bore him a daughter when he wanted a son, he blamed her completely and she had a breakdown of some sort , his son is similar I , think .
@@bernardcassidy6497 Some say the father was violent, others say it was an excuse to get out of the marriage (an excuse that was acceptable and believable to others). Certainly it seems he wasn't bad tempered or violent towards his second wife at all but his son on the other hand has a history of being violent towards ex wives and at least one daughter.
@@AveCaesar2025it appears that he was better with Raine partly because it is said he was afraid of her. One of the biographers said that Barbara Cartland told at least one person that she went after him with a gun when he tried to physically hurt her. And then he had his stroke. But there is definitely a streak of violence running with the Spencer genes.
@@dhjdmba5684 Goes back centuries and it wasn't just husbands abusing wives but a fair few wives have abused husbands and kids as well. Not even staying in the direct line but in off=shoots as well if you read their history. A really nasty family with some very nasty - but genetically very strong - traits that seem to constantly reappear. Which makes me seriously worried about William's kids, not so much about them but their kids or grandkids, because George might have a son or daughter - or a grandson/daughter who turns out like Harry and is the first born. That would be an utter disaster and it's one reason the monarchy had never (allegedly) married into the family although plenty of Spencers had tried their luck over the decades. Diana's grandmother openly lied and hid a lot of things from the Queen mother who later admitted that IF she had known and investigated herself rather than simply believing her friend she would never have backed the marriage. She even apologised to Charles for helping to basically ruin his life. As to the current Earl, while he was invited to both daughter's weddings he was subtly informed that he wasn't welcome - which is why he made out that his injury was too bad to attend even though one was fairly close to the UK in Europe, he saved face that way - and he did get the message that he wasn't wanted. Apparently if he had ignored it - according to a family friend - and attended then neither bride would have had their mothers there. Both ex-wives are friends, both suffered at his hands and neither wants to have anything to do with him. Both also attended both weddings and it will be interesting to see if he attends the weddings of any of his sons as well. The kids all know what he was like and what he did - heck, it was spread over the front pages of the papers and lead the TV news broadcasts at the time, he certainly didn't give a toss about the embarrassment it must have caused his sister Diana, the one he is/was allegedly so close to - and quite a number seem to have nothing to do with him. Which might make me wonder what the one was like who DID have much to do with him. Hopefully the next Earl won't be like the current one.
I remember reading that after Diana died Fayed gave Raine a job in Harrods and she was a very hard worker and dedicated. She would still have swish dinner parties for friends, and when she got cancer, she didn't even tell anyone but just quietly got on with it till she passed away. I felt sorry for her as you say she really loved Jonny. As for Barbara, when reporters went to interview her she always sent them away with a present.
@@thevintageread I cannot allow the opportunity to pass without saying that, through an unexpected and unusual set of circumstances, I found myself as the personal guest of Earl Spencer and Raine Spencer for morning tea one day. It was an experience I have never forgotten. The Earl exhibited all the courtesy and good manners of one which would be expected of his position in life asking me all about my life and my interests and then pointing out our mutual experiences. As for Raine, she was elegant, gracious, full of good humor and her hostessing charm not equaled by any I have met before or since. She sent me home with a memento I will always treasure! They came across as a happy and devoted couple - which is more than can be said by some members of the Spencer family that I have witnessed since that meeting. That Fayed spoke of her as being hard-working and dedicated was praise well-deserved, I would say. She did indeed love the Earl as was very evident when they were together and doesn't seem to have been treated as well as she might have been by certain of her step-children, two of whom at least we know had easily inflamed tempers. As you say, a great deal to be admired about this lady!
@@kerriferguson2023 It has been well reported that whenever she managed to save a few pennies to put towards restoring the house and estate the son would spend days whinging to his father because she spent HER money on the estate when he thought it should have been given to him to waste instead. He is a nasty piece of work - always has been according to family who, incidentally, also claimed that the stories of the bad temper and violence by his first wife were made up because they were acceptable reasons to get a divorce, simply running away wasn't in those days. No idea if it's true but the son was and is nasty and made headlines in the past for all the wrong reasons. The two older girls both seem to be OK though, it's the youngest two who were the issue. And no, my relatives didn't like Diana any more than they liked her brother.
@@AveCaesar2025 Such Interesting facts that seem to slip by the fawning media. Raine did indeed do a great deal to assist in ensuring the upkeep and smooth running of Althorp and was ultimately treated abysmally by some younger members of the family and in a way that would be considered deplorable in any "class" of people. The eulogy delivered at Diana's funeral by Spencer horrified and appalled me at the time and there is NO excuse for such disrespect to the Royal Family and for airing one's personal venom on such an occasion. He seized the occasion to elevate his own importance (as he saw it and in my opinion). I have to say that I must agree with your comment about the sisters who do not seem to have put a foot wrong and behave with class at all times. Diana and the Earl however, have not always done so.
@@kerriferguson2023 There really does seem to be a huge difference between the eldest two and the youngest two, you'd never believe they were from the same parents. The two younger ones are/were true Spencers in every sense of the word and they've shown their colours to the world as well. But Diana was good enough at manipulating the media as to be able to hide her real self from the public (I'd have believed them if I didn't have family who knew the Spencers and passed on the juicy gossip to mum in their weekly aerogrammes). It's only largely since she died that people have spoken out more and her halo has tarnished somewhat. She did a lot of good but I think she did it because she craved the attention, if there had been nothing in it for her I'm not so certain she would have been interested (think of all the headlines she got simply for visiting HIV patients, if the headlines hadn't been there I doubt she would have visited in the first place, she certainly tried to ensure everything was about her to the detriment of some of the charities she was supposedly highlighting) simply because it was the right thing to do or to support. Like Camilla and domestic abuse victims, she's helped and supported them for decades without any public fanfare or interest, I honestly couldn't see Diana doing the same thing for nothing herself, it simply wasn't in her character to do that. She was an attention seeker and it was a part of who she was. Good and bad like all of us but many of the Spencers seem to show the extremes of both rather than ride happily along in the middle lanes like most of us do. She was a lot more like Meghan than people want to admit, though whether that meant she would have liked or hated Meghan is something else. Could have gone either way I suspect depending on what was in it for her attention wise.
WOW! I laughed so hard envisioning those freak show love scenes that I just about lost it. I do remember Barbara Cartland's makeup. Thanks for the laughs.
I personally think the Spencers were awful and extremely manipulative. Everyone thinks Charles cheating with camilla was terrible but that was ONE woman. Diana numerous affairs with many different men. When Diana’s father died, Diana and her siblings put her step mother’s belongings in trash bags and threw it out on the lawn. she was married to him over 20 years. What appalling behavior. And pushing her down a flight of stairs, I agree who behaves like that. And when Diana died her mother and sister went tho court to become executors of her will and made their own changes. I always thought the Spencer’s were awful manipulative and greedy people.
So glad you brought up Charles Spencer refusing to let Diana spend her vacation with the boys at Althorp. I mean, forget the paparazzi, if anyone is really to blame... well, you know what I mean. (And don't let the rabid sugars get to you!)
@@thevintageread I think people appreciate your channel because you're posed and poised, and don't indulge in any histrionics. Hoping you'll continue entertaining us for a long time! 💐
@@dottieparker7274 Totally agree - I’m a bit of a curmudgeon the older I get and I love Shaunas take on life and I’m her reviews For me she offers a more tempered and balanced approach that often makes me reflect my knee jerk reactions and come to a more reasoned conclusion
Fascinating! I did not know that Raine was Barbara Cartland‘s daughter. I looked at some photos of Raine and as a young woman she was quite beautiful. Even as an older woman she looked like she like to live the spicy life. Good on her for enjoying the juicy bits of being a human. Earl Spencer, Diana’s father, was also a quite handsome as a young man. seems like a lot of passion ran through that family in every direction!
Shauna. Read Three Times a Countess by Tina Gaudoin. Fascinating. Raine was a very intelligent woman, far more so than her three hubbies. In the end she kissed and made up with Diana. But she steered a very tight ship while a Spencer and rose their fortunes only to be scoffed at by the Spencers, then of course Charles Spencer went and did the same things he criticised Raine for. As for your show today, I am p……..g myself laughing.
So interesting! I love the way they became friends in the end. I did hear that one of the reasons Paul Burrell collected so many od Dianna's things when she died was that Rain was going scorched earth on Dianna's possessions!
Had some dealing with Raine Spencer during my working life and honestly, she was nothing but polite, nice and friendly..she may well have had a drink or two but she was very nice
Did you know, that Charles Spencer and Diana.. Later found out, that their stepmother, never overspend and only sold, things that were absolutely necessary ... And when Charles Spencer, took over the estate.. he had to do the same... Diana later became real close friends with her stepmother, because she, was really connected, having lots of friends that Diana could use...Dodis Father was one of them.. Diana stopped talking to her mother as well , I think it was because she said in public, that Diana should have made the interview..
As much as Diana tried to blame Charles for her emotional problems ,her upbringing caused these problems. And poor Charles to this day gets the backlash. She was the one who was unfaithful and caused the ending of the marriage .
This was wonderful, Shauna! I believe Princess Diana is loving how she is still remembered and talked about, as long as it’s the truth, and not malicious in any way, I see nothing wrong with it. I don’t believe the deceased RIP, I believe they are kept quite busy within God’s heavenly kingdom and are aware of more than we realize on this earth.❤
Well that was a hoot listening to, especially the face lift and Bedroom antics!! You always find something away from the norm to focus on when you analyse a book. I always felt sorry for Francis Shane Kydd . I’m glad Diana stood up for her mum on occasion, if there’s truth to the rumour.. although an episode down the stairs is a bit scary! Thanks Shauna.
That facelift is in fact a thing! They sold it on TV, I caught the add on a sleepless night ages ago. It was called "Yearsaway" and it was basically two strips of 3M tape joined by an elastic. I always wondered if in the end it made the skin saggier! 🤣 the things people do
I didn't know the family myself but my great aunts and great grandmother grew up around the estate - and near to Barbara Cartland's house as well - and knew them as locals (meaning they knew all the gossip and what was happening) Apparently the last Earl was a lovely bloke, they didn't speak well of his first wife - claiming her accusations were made as a means to get the divorce - and they didn't speak well of her mother either. Raine on the other hand was held to be a lot better than her mother - one of the original NIMBYs - and she apparently did a lot to save the estate which was basically bankrupt when the last Earl inherited it. The Spencers being rather spendthrift and find spending money easier than saving it. I know Diana tried to kill her stepmother whom she hated while her brother begrudged every penny Raine managed to save and spend on the estate because he thought he should have been given it to waste instead - I think he recently acknowledged that if it hadn't been for Raine then the estate would probably have been lost, she did so much to ensure his father was able to keep it and hand it down to him. Not a family I'd bother reading about but an interesting video none-the-less.
Hello Shauna! Oh my goodness, that was so funny and informative. You had me howling with laughter especially during the part of them being caught at the Hotel. I could envision just what Raine looked like as she left the room. Definitely a must read book. Thank-you for the chuckles.🥰
In 1981, my late husband and I went to Glyndebourne in Sussex to the Opera which was an annual event, walking through the beautiful grounds we came face to face with Princes Diana father and wife arm in arm walking towards us, Raine had this fixed smile on her face, I’ll always remember it. 10:5910:59
Well ,that was a surprise watch ,,i missed the live again did i 😢 That was very entertaining and a bit naughty 😜 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣omg ,,he must of put some effort in ,if he ended up having a stroke 😳🥺🤣🤣🤣🤣 that made my afternoon thankyou shauna 🤣❤
Love your ability to re-tell these events in such a funny way. A thing I envy about the old style British upper classes is their complete lack of self consciousness. They got themselves into the most undignified scrapes then just laughed them off as funny stories.
You are simply marvellous Shauna! Top of a bright Florida morning to you! Keep them coming! ( Thank you sooo much for the laugh this morning! ❤😂😂😂😂😅😅😊😊😊
That was so funny! I love your cheeky sense of humour and how you present all the little snippets from the books that you review. Thank you for all the work that you do to entertain us
We used to visit Althorp regularly because it was so breathtakingly awful. There was a huge portrait of Raine dressed in pink. They used to open regularly, and Raine and Earl Spencer were quite often seen in and around the gift shop. One day a tourist was sick, and Raine was heard to say 'Someone has been ill on the gift shop floor, and I am just clearing it up.' Of course she wasn't, a member of staff had been summoned, but she clearly thought that was how one cleared up vomit. Once Charles Spencer inherited he not only turned everything back, but stopped opening the house, although I believe it has been opened a few times recently.
It does sound awful! How amazing you actually saw it. I guess It did turn the Spencer’s fortunes around so at least Charles could afford to close the house!
OMG - you're hysterical! Love it when you show your humour at these ridiculous antics of the rich and infamous. What a bunch - too much money, too little purpose in life.
Bit late to the party Shauna but here goes. I remember seeing an interview in the late 70’s with Barbara Cartland and Margot Fonteyn the ballet dancer. They were of a similar age then. There was BC dressed in bright pink and layers of slap just like a pantomime dame, sitting next to a very elegant Fonteyn! The contrast was excruciating, and even more so when you think Fonteyn came from a very ordinary background, and BC was the posh one! I think it was Michael Parkinson who was hugely popular interviewer, but I can’t find it on TH-cam.
🌷🌷Shauna, what a hoot-and-a-holler🦊Truth is often stranger than fiction😺There is nothing worst than when a step-mother is a ruthless, selfish, greedy invagler who cares more about money than her stepchild ! (Ya, we have such a wretched trollop in our family …) Shauna, thank goodness that the old Earl S. had a proper Will to protect his children’s birthright 😇V.A.C. ~ PS You and Lady Campbell have a great giggle😃That is why your Video Podcast Are such GOOD FUN🐕🐕Cheers 🌳🌲🎄🦚🌲🌲🌲
Meow, Tina Brown, those discriminations were tasty. What i love about older ladies at that time was they were Drag Queens playng drag queens. The eccentricity is entertaining. ❤ It can be hard to a step parent
Yes, it can be hard to be a step parent, especially if you don't take the time to allow everyone to get to know each other. I never trashed their mum to their faces, and I worked with her as much as I could (we were in separate towns). I made it very clear that I didn't want to encroach on her territory. The kids and I have a fantastic relationship, but we've nurtured it for 36 years.
The description of her wonky bouffant is hysterical. I found a photo of Raine taken back in 1950 and she was actually a very beautiful woman. She became very strange looking as she got older.
Having been in the dental field, I feel so bad for these two ladies who enjoyed smiling so much. Their bright lipstick showcases poorly fitted crowns on a sea of puffy gums!😢
I know very little about Princess Diana’s family except for her brother, who I became aware of watching her funeral. This book sounds like a good start. Are there other books about the Spencers you might recommend?
I do think The Diana Chronicles gives you a great balanced overview… but I will have to have a think about one that focuses more on the Spencers…leave it with me! 😉
Shauna, I’m certainly delighted by this review. I have a long list of books to read once I locate them. My library was very rude about locating Daughter of Narcissisa by Lady C.
It was how it was back then with the aristos and I do believe that all that family are unkind and cruel. Like Henry who can’t wish his father happiness even in the marriage H has made for himself
I have read multiple books that have stated that Diana pushed Raine down the stairs. I believe Diana in private was totally different than the public persona. In one interview a person asked why on Earth Diana would have done something like that and the person stated that because she was Princess of Wales that she knew she was untouchable. All quite interesting to say the least.
Crown jewels wink wink, push & shove down staircases (or kitchen floors) blow up arguments, kicked out of houses, a woman setting her sights directly on potential aristocratic rich husband. Well well well Looks like nothing has changed ! Sounds like a certain Spencer offspring inherited the drama gene ! 😂
Shauna, that made me laugh out loud! Of course, I had to Google Raine Spencers hair. Wow. It reminds me of Gary Oldman as Dracula in the movie. I don't know how that could be considered attractive but different strokes for different folks" I guess. Maybe the enormous hair is an aristocratic status symbol?
I'm so glad to see you talk about this!! I think it is a critically important thing to understand -- Diana was the unwanted 3rd daughter in a really screwed up family situation, her mum left them when she was very young. Its no surprise that Diana grew up desperate for escape, attention and approval. Tina Brown absolutely nailed the description of Raine!! She and her mother were just over the top tacky.
Harry definitely got Diana's crudeness. The time Diana won the race at Harry's school was because the other mothers were protecting their sons from Harry who would have retaliated if Diana had lost
I wonder if Barbara Cartland got her DBE & CStJ because the queen mum loved her trashy novels!? I don't know much about Raine, except her mother was determined her daughter would marry a title. About Barbara, I do know she was caught plagerising some terminology of another novelist in the 20th century. She was written to by the 'other' writer's solicitor informing Barbara's misdemeanour has been noticed & it would be appreciated if she would kindly STOP, it never happened again!
Earl Spencer Snr was a pretty revolting specimen forcing pregnancy after pregnancy on his wife to produce the heir. By the time the son was born she loathed her husband.
And she finally produced that pathetic excuse for Diana's only brother, whom Diana was so close with as a child, and who (reportedly) refused her refuge at Althorp after the divorce from Charles.
WOW! You knocked it put of the park today. A little mischievous section as well as the complex Princess Diana. I am reading The Courtier but thinks it’s too slow with details. I would love to hear your thoughts on it. Thanks for the laughs and have a blessed day 🙏🏾
I love your reviews, the book sounds great and the descriptions of Barbara Cartland and Raine Spencer sound spot on. Have to say though - Althorp is pronounced Althrop. I know this is crazy and makes no sense in relation to the spelling but that’s strange English pronunciation for you.
I heard Diana tell the story of hitting her Dad across the face and she seemed oddly pleased to share that she had done such an unthinkable thing. My estimation of her plummeted. Her own father! Because she disagreed with a decision he'd made? I never held her on a pedestal but did always like the imperfect person she seemed to be, but hitting a person (your own father!) and in the face, really goes beyond the pale for me. It's almost as awful as her actions telling 8 yr old Hawwy: "Get away from me kid, you bother me..."
Thank you Shauna, aren't descriptions interesting? quite often I think they tell you as much about the author of the description as they do about the subject. Funny but ultimately dismissive and belittling is how these come across. How sad for Raine being subjected to the spite of some of the Spencers, she sounds to have been a woman who remained untimately herself and an interesting person to know.
David Letterman did a good interview with Barbara Cartland in 1983….. It is here on TH-cam….. Her dress is gorgeous, and she seems so sweet 🍬…..(Could that huge diamond ring she is wearing possibly be real?). ✨💍✨
I have seen Diana telling the story about hitting her father across The face.. on a recording, talking to her "drama" teacher.. he was the person teaching her to speak in public...
Marlene Dietrich used a gold chain that ran over her head and under her chin to hoist up her jowls. I've tried it with an elastic band - effective, but uncomfortable and probably cuts off circulation to the brain.
I’ve always thought Diana became friendly with Raine Spencer later to hurt her mother. She had fallen out with her mother and next thing she was seen out eating with Raine Spencer. I think she introduced Raine to Mohammad Fayad who give Raine a job in Harrods.
Who could forget Barbara Cartland? She wore so much make up and powder that her features seemed fuzzy. I tried reading one of her novelettes once when I was a teenager. Never finished it though, there were too many heaving bosoms and strong manly chests, so I went back to reading Georgette Heyer whose novels all but filled the 'H' shelf of the local library.
Very interesting and funny! Thanks!
Thanks I’m glad you enjoyed it! 💕😊
In the videos of Diana's talks with her vocal coach, she admits slapping her father. Giggling about it, she also admits to pushing Raine down the stairs! Diana was lucky that Raine wasn't seriously injured.
I firmly believe that all the Spencers had deep personality problems that were covered up by stiff-upper-lip rearing. This undermined Diana's relationship with Charles and was part of the reason their marriage spiraled downward.
Exactly! Combine that with KCIII's privileged upbringing he wasn't able to offer any empathy or compassion. They were gasoline & matches from the beginning. I always thought the real problem was Lady Fermoy & the Queen Mum who set the whole thin up!
KC3 wasn't exactly innocent in that. As soon as he got off the boat from the honeymoon, he was off to sit in a marsh for a month of painting. Neither one of them were exactly emotionally stable or had healthy coping skills.
This was funny but I think Diana had issues just like her son and would probably said a lot more if it wasn't for her son being king one day
Please read. I said "part of the reason." @@wildblue0
@@isabelwright8910 I totally agree with you.
Many years ago, maybe the 1960's, Barbara Cartland used to have a regular summer holiday at a huntin', shootin' and fishin' lodge in Scotland near where I lived. One day I was looking in a beauty shop window when a figure beside me made a comment about the eyeshadows on display. I turned and there was Barbara looking so much larger than life that I was stunned. Dressed in a brown tweed suit, with brown knitted ankle socks over thick stockings and brown brogue shoes, one could not ignore the blonde bouffant hairdo, the powdery makeup, the lipstick, the bright blue eyeshadow and false eyelashes. From the neck down, dressed for the country life, from the neck up for a glamorous evening in London. However, Barbara Cartland was a well known figure locally and made great friends with some local people, so really she was a genuine and respected character.
What a fantastic story!
Two points in Barbara Cartland’s favour. During the WWII she got all her aristocratic friends to donate their couture wedding gowns, which Barbara Cartland then made available to any woman in the services who was getting married ( remember clothing was tightly rationed so getting a new wedding dress was very difficult ) imagine the thrill for a girl of modest means putting aside her army uniform to slip into a Paris couture wedding gown! Barbara was also a determined advocate for gipsies in the UK, she lobbied long and hard to make sure they had sites set aside for them and were treated fairly.
Wow! Fantastic stories…thanks 💕😊🤗
Barbara worked hard, had fun, and enjoyed her best life. She was seen as a bit of a joke by snobs, but she unapologetically did what made her happy.
@@GinaSeay-kn7xr We could learn a bit from that example?🫖☕️
@@GinaSeay-kn7xrShe was so OTT, she was fantastic!
That’s so true about rationed clothing, fabric, lace, silk stockings, food, etc. during and after WWII ended. My MIL was a “war bride” from Italy, and her village, Eboli, was bombed and completely destroyed. Her family lost everything, fled the Nazi’s, and hid and lived in mountain caves for 6 months. When the war ended, my FIL’s parents sent the wedding bands, wedding gown, veil, undergarments, silk stockings, wedding shoes, “something old, something blue” from the US to Italy for their December 1945 wedding. The whole village was invited to the wedding. They followed on foot the bride-to-be and her family to the church for the wedding ceremony and then followed the married couple back to a cleared out area decorated for the outdoor reception. Everyone brought a dish made with whatever food items they could get their hands on. A young German POW being held at a nearby US Army encampment nearby, befriended my FIL and baked and decorated the wedding cake. He had been an apprentice pastry chef before being conscripted in Hitler’s war. It was a happy day despite all the destruction that surrounded them.
I heard (I think from Lady C) that Earl Spencer had a terrible temper and was violent with Francis and that’s why she left. Her mother couldn’t accept the shame of her daughter walking out and sided with Earl Spencer in the divorce proceedings. That’s why she never got custody. Apparently his temper was notorious!!!
I also read that about Spencer's cruelty to his wife , initially because she bore him a daughter when he wanted a son, he blamed her completely and she had a breakdown of some sort , his son is similar I , think .
@@bernardcassidy6497 Some say the father was violent, others say it was an excuse to get out of the marriage (an excuse that was acceptable and believable to others). Certainly it seems he wasn't bad tempered or violent towards his second wife at all but his son on the other hand has a history of being violent towards ex wives and at least one daughter.
@@AveCaesar2025it appears that he was better with Raine partly because it is said he was afraid of her. One of the biographers said that Barbara Cartland told at least one person that she went after him with a gun when he tried to physically hurt her. And then he had his stroke. But there is definitely a streak of violence running with the Spencer genes.
@@dhjdmba5684 Goes back centuries and it wasn't just husbands abusing wives but a fair few wives have abused husbands and kids as well. Not even staying in the direct line but in off=shoots as well if you read their history. A really nasty family with some very nasty - but genetically very strong - traits that seem to constantly reappear. Which makes me seriously worried about William's kids, not so much about them but their kids or grandkids, because George might have a son or daughter - or a grandson/daughter who turns out like Harry and is the first born. That would be an utter disaster and it's one reason the monarchy had never (allegedly) married into the family although plenty of Spencers had tried their luck over the decades. Diana's grandmother openly lied and hid a lot of things from the Queen mother who later admitted that IF she had known and investigated herself rather than simply believing her friend she would never have backed the marriage. She even apologised to Charles for helping to basically ruin his life.
As to the current Earl, while he was invited to both daughter's weddings he was subtly informed that he wasn't welcome - which is why he made out that his injury was too bad to attend even though one was fairly close to the UK in Europe, he saved face that way - and he did get the message that he wasn't wanted. Apparently if he had ignored it - according to a family friend - and attended then neither bride would have had their mothers there. Both ex-wives are friends, both suffered at his hands and neither wants to have anything to do with him. Both also attended both weddings and it will be interesting to see if he attends the weddings of any of his sons as well. The kids all know what he was like and what he did - heck, it was spread over the front pages of the papers and lead the TV news broadcasts at the time, he certainly didn't give a toss about the embarrassment it must have caused his sister Diana, the one he is/was allegedly so close to - and quite a number seem to have nothing to do with him. Which might make me wonder what the one was like who DID have much to do with him. Hopefully the next Earl won't be like the current one.
@@AveCaesar2025so many parents treat their second spouse and that spouse's children better
I remember reading that after Diana died Fayed gave Raine a job in Harrods and she was a very hard worker and dedicated. She would still have swish dinner parties for friends, and when she got cancer, she didn't even tell anyone but just quietly got on with it till she passed away. I felt sorry for her as you say she really loved Jonny. As for Barbara, when reporters went to interview her she always sent them away with a present.
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@@thevintageread I cannot allow the opportunity to pass without saying that, through an unexpected and unusual set of circumstances, I found myself as the personal guest of Earl Spencer and Raine Spencer for morning tea one day. It was an experience I have never forgotten. The Earl exhibited all the courtesy and good manners of one which would be expected of his position in life asking me all about my life and my interests and then pointing out our mutual experiences. As for Raine, she was elegant, gracious, full of good humor and her hostessing charm not equaled by any I have met before or since. She sent me home with a memento I will always treasure! They came across as a happy and devoted couple - which is more than can be said by some members of the Spencer family that I have witnessed since that meeting. That Fayed spoke of her as being hard-working and dedicated was praise well-deserved, I would say. She did indeed love the Earl as was very evident when they were together and doesn't seem to have been treated as well as she might have been by certain of her step-children, two of whom at least we know had easily inflamed tempers. As you say, a great deal to be admired about this lady!
@@kerriferguson2023 It has been well reported that whenever she managed to save a few pennies to put towards restoring the house and estate the son would spend days whinging to his father because she spent HER money on the estate when he thought it should have been given to him to waste instead. He is a nasty piece of work - always has been according to family who, incidentally, also claimed that the stories of the bad temper and violence by his first wife were made up because they were acceptable reasons to get a divorce, simply running away wasn't in those days. No idea if it's true but the son was and is nasty and made headlines in the past for all the wrong reasons. The two older girls both seem to be OK though, it's the youngest two who were the issue. And no, my relatives didn't like Diana any more than they liked her brother.
@@AveCaesar2025 Such Interesting facts that seem to slip by the fawning media. Raine did indeed do a great deal to assist in ensuring the upkeep and smooth running of Althorp and was ultimately treated abysmally by some younger members of the family and in a way that would be considered deplorable in any "class" of people. The eulogy delivered at Diana's funeral by Spencer horrified and appalled me at the time and there is NO excuse for such disrespect to the Royal Family and for airing one's personal venom on such an occasion. He seized the occasion to elevate his own importance (as he saw it and in my opinion). I have to say that I must agree with your comment about the sisters who do not seem to have put a foot wrong and behave with class at all times. Diana and the Earl however, have not always done so.
@@kerriferguson2023 There really does seem to be a huge difference between the eldest two and the youngest two, you'd never believe they were from the same parents. The two younger ones are/were true Spencers in every sense of the word and they've shown their colours to the world as well. But Diana was good enough at manipulating the media as to be able to hide her real self from the public (I'd have believed them if I didn't have family who knew the Spencers and passed on the juicy gossip to mum in their weekly aerogrammes). It's only largely since she died that people have spoken out more and her halo has tarnished somewhat. She did a lot of good but I think she did it because she craved the attention, if there had been nothing in it for her I'm not so certain she would have been interested (think of all the headlines she got simply for visiting HIV patients, if the headlines hadn't been there I doubt she would have visited in the first place, she certainly tried to ensure everything was about her to the detriment of some of the charities she was supposedly highlighting) simply because it was the right thing to do or to support. Like Camilla and domestic abuse victims, she's helped and supported them for decades without any public fanfare or interest, I honestly couldn't see Diana doing the same thing for nothing herself, it simply wasn't in her character to do that. She was an attention seeker and it was a part of who she was. Good and bad like all of us but many of the Spencers seem to show the extremes of both rather than ride happily along in the middle lanes like most of us do. She was a lot more like Meghan than people want to admit, though whether that meant she would have liked or hated Meghan is something else. Could have gone either way I suspect depending on what was in it for her attention wise.
You certainly add a bit of Aussie humour into your reviews. So refreshing! 😁😁😁🇦🇺👍
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WOW! I laughed so hard envisioning those freak show love scenes that I just about lost it. I do remember Barbara Cartland's makeup. Thanks for the laughs.
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Giggle? More a roaring laughter, Shauna 😂.
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Oh my, mother and daughter Cartland look quite extraordinary. They sure weren't afraid to live.
Definitely not! 😂
I read that Raine sold off the artefacts because Althorpe was so heavily in debt and she managed to save it for future generations.
Thank you Shauna ❤️. I adore your book reviews! The humour-spin you put on them - priceless!!!
Oh thank you!
I lost respect for Diana when I read about her pushing that woman down the stairs. She definitely had emotional problems.
I agree. Who does that? Diana was no saint.
I personally think the Spencers were awful and extremely manipulative. Everyone thinks Charles cheating with camilla was terrible but that was ONE woman. Diana numerous affairs with many different men.
When Diana’s father died, Diana and her siblings put her step mother’s belongings in trash bags and threw it out on the lawn. she was married to him over 20 years. What appalling behavior. And pushing her down a flight of stairs, I agree who behaves like that. And when Diana died her mother and sister went tho court to become executors of her will and made their own changes. I always thought the Spencer’s were awful manipulative and greedy people.
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@@mario-qi3yw her stepmother. She pushed her step mother down the stairs
So glad you brought up Charles Spencer refusing to let Diana spend her vacation with the boys at Althorp. I mean, forget the paparazzi, if anyone is really to blame... well, you know what I mean. (And don't let the rabid sugars get to you!)
Yes In another video I did… I have lots of lovely supportive people on this channel, I feel very grateful & lucky 😊💗
@@thevintageread I think people appreciate your channel because you're posed and poised, and don't indulge in any histrionics. Hoping you'll continue entertaining us for a long time! 💐
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Totally agree - I’m a bit of a curmudgeon the older I get and I love Shaunas take on life and I’m her reviews
For me she offers a more tempered and balanced approach that often makes me reflect my knee jerk reactions and come to a more reasoned conclusion
Fascinating! I did not know that Raine was Barbara Cartland‘s daughter. I looked at some photos of Raine and as a young woman she was quite beautiful. Even as an older woman she looked like she like to live the spicy life. Good on her for enjoying the juicy bits of being a human. Earl Spencer, Diana’s father, was also a quite handsome as a young man. seems like a lot of passion ran through that family in every direction!
Yes I think she would have been a fun and fascinating person to know!
Shauna. Read Three Times a Countess by Tina Gaudoin. Fascinating. Raine was a very intelligent woman, far more so than her three hubbies. In the end she kissed and made up with Diana. But she steered a very tight ship while a Spencer and rose their fortunes only to be scoffed at by the Spencers, then of course Charles Spencer went and did the same things he criticised Raine for. As for your show today, I am p……..g myself laughing.
I will! Thanks 😊💕
Entertaining and very funny, to say the least. Thank you for making it more about the family.
Glad you enjoyed it
Oh Shauna, can you ever have too much gold leaf?
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Well you make a great point 😂🤣
may look like Trump Tower..
So interesting! I love the way they became friends in the end. I did hear that one of the reasons Paul Burrell collected so many od Dianna's things when she died was that Rain was going scorched earth on Dianna's possessions!
Had some dealing with Raine Spencer during my working life and honestly, she was nothing but polite, nice and friendly..she may well have had a drink or two but she was very nice
Lovely insight! Thank you 😊💗
Did you know, that Charles Spencer and Diana..
Later found out, that their stepmother, never overspend and only sold, things that were absolutely necessary ...
And when Charles Spencer, took over the estate.. he had to do the same...
Diana later became real close friends with her stepmother, because she, was really connected, having lots of friends that Diana could use...Dodis Father was one of them..
Diana stopped talking to her mother as well , I think it was because she said in public, that Diana should have made the interview..
Dianna and her siblings were evil to their step mom and that alone turned me offf soooo much from Diana than her evil treatment of Charles later 😢
As much as Diana tried to blame Charles for her emotional problems ,her upbringing caused these problems. And poor Charles to this day gets the backlash. She was the one who was unfaithful and caused the ending of the marriage .
This was wonderful, Shauna! I believe Princess Diana is loving how she is still remembered and talked about, as long as it’s the truth, and not malicious in any way, I see nothing wrong with it. I don’t believe the deceased RIP, I believe they are kept quite busy within God’s heavenly kingdom and are aware of more than we realize on this earth.❤
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Yes, Tina Brown is an outstanding writer--she deserves every bit of her stellar reputation!
Yes I really love the way she writes!
Well that was a hoot listening to, especially the face lift and Bedroom antics!! You always find something away from the norm to focus on when you analyse a book. I always felt sorry for Francis Shane Kydd . I’m glad Diana stood up for her mum on occasion, if there’s truth to the rumour.. although an episode down the stairs is a bit scary! Thanks Shauna.
It is a bit! 😂
That facelift is in fact a thing! They sold it on TV, I caught the add on a sleepless night ages ago. It was called "Yearsaway" and it was basically two strips of 3M tape joined by an elastic. I always wondered if in the end it made the skin saggier! 🤣 the things people do
The Dame Edna comparison is classic! Always thought this too.
Well, this started my day with a needed giggle! Thanks
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Yes! I just loved it!!!!! 💄👄❤️
I didn't know the family myself but my great aunts and great grandmother grew up around the estate - and near to Barbara Cartland's house as well - and knew them as locals (meaning they knew all the gossip and what was happening) Apparently the last Earl was a lovely bloke, they didn't speak well of his first wife - claiming her accusations were made as a means to get the divorce - and they didn't speak well of her mother either. Raine on the other hand was held to be a lot better than her mother - one of the original NIMBYs - and she apparently did a lot to save the estate which was basically bankrupt when the last Earl inherited it. The Spencers being rather spendthrift and find spending money easier than saving it. I know Diana tried to kill her stepmother whom she hated while her brother begrudged every penny Raine managed to save and spend on the estate because he thought he should have been given it to waste instead - I think he recently acknowledged that if it hadn't been for Raine then the estate would probably have been lost, she did so much to ensure his father was able to keep it and hand it down to him. Not a family I'd bother reading about but an interesting video none-the-less.
Diana slapped her father's face? And pushed Raine down the stairs? Diana was a brat!
Just watched this & absolutely howled with laughter. 😂
I don't know which was funnier: the story or your reaction to it. Thanks for the giggles.
Glad you enjoyed it
Reines " oh you're wonderful, you're sexy," reminded me of Meghan's" this my darling isn't a spare,this is a man"!😅😅
Ewwwwww yes! 😂😊💕
Haha this is so deliciously hilarious! Thank you Shauna!
You're so welcome!
Hello Shauna! Oh my goodness, that was so funny and informative. You had me howling with laughter especially during the part of them being caught at the Hotel. I could envision just what Raine looked like as she left the room. Definitely a must read book. Thank-you for the chuckles.🥰
Glad you enjoyed it! 😊💗
In 1981, my late husband and I went to Glyndebourne in Sussex to the Opera which was an annual event, walking through the beautiful grounds we came face to face with Princes Diana father and wife arm in arm walking towards us, Raine had this fixed smile on her face, I’ll always remember it. 10:59 10:59
Wow! What a fantastic snippet! Thanks 😊💗
Thank you for such a hilarious time, Shauna. Had a blast listening to this.
Gosh...this review was hysterical! 😂😂😂😂 Thanks for a jolly evening chuckle. Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦
Well ,that was a surprise watch ,,i missed the live again did i 😢 That was very entertaining and a bit naughty 😜 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣omg ,,he must of put some effort in ,if he ended up having a stroke 😳🥺🤣🤣🤣🤣 that made my afternoon thankyou shauna 🤣❤
Glad you enjoyed it 😂
Oh I was laughing with you. I've had a stroke (we're laughing at the antics) still found it soo funny lol Oh my🤣
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Great review - thanks for the laugh !
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love your ability to re-tell these events in such a funny way. A thing I envy about the old style British upper classes is their complete lack of self consciousness. They got themselves into the most undignified scrapes then just laughed them off as funny stories.
It is hilarious to watch you get cracking up with the giggles. You and lady C are both so funny when something really tickles you!
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Oh, you made me laugh in this one! 😂 Nobility never precluded ridiculousness.
I’m glad you got a giggle 😂💗
You are simply marvellous Shauna! Top of a bright Florida morning to you! Keep them coming! ( Thank you sooo much for the laugh this morning! ❤😂😂😂😂😅😅😊😊😊
Thank you! You too! 💕😊
That was so funny! I love your cheeky sense of humour and how you present all the little snippets from the books that you review. Thank you for all the work that you do to entertain us
Glad you enjoyed it! 😂💗
We used to visit Althorp regularly because it was so breathtakingly awful. There was a huge portrait of Raine dressed in pink. They used to open regularly, and Raine and Earl Spencer were quite often seen in and around the gift shop.
One day a tourist was sick, and Raine was heard to say 'Someone has been ill on the gift shop floor, and I am just clearing it up.' Of course she wasn't, a member of staff had been summoned, but she clearly thought that was how one cleared up vomit.
Once Charles Spencer inherited he not only turned everything back, but stopped opening the house, although I believe it has been opened a few times recently.
It does sound awful! How amazing you actually saw it. I guess It did turn the Spencer’s fortunes around so at least Charles could afford to close the house!
The House is open in July and August, plus you can get married there and they hold conferences.
@nicolad8822 thank you for the info. 🙂
OMG - you're hysterical! Love it when you show your humour at these ridiculous antics of the rich and infamous. What a bunch - too much money, too little purpose in life.
Lol, you crack me up, I laugh right along with you, you have an infectious laugh. Thanks for sharing 😂
I'm so glad!
I love your chats , gosh you give me such a good giggle
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Once again my much needed laugh of the day😅
Perfect! Good to have a giggle 😂💕
I just have to say, "You are woooonderful! You are, well, woooonderful!"
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Bit late to the party Shauna but here goes.
I remember seeing an interview in the late 70’s with Barbara Cartland and Margot Fonteyn the ballet dancer. They were of a similar age then. There was BC dressed in bright pink and layers of slap just like a pantomime dame, sitting next to a very elegant Fonteyn! The contrast was excruciating, and even more so when you think Fonteyn came from a very ordinary background, and BC was the posh one!
I think it was Michael Parkinson who was hugely popular interviewer, but I can’t find it on TH-cam.
Diana apparently had a few mental problems 😂
🌷🌷Shauna, what a hoot-and-a-holler🦊Truth is often stranger than fiction😺There is nothing worst than when a step-mother is a ruthless, selfish, greedy invagler who cares more about money than her stepchild ! (Ya, we have such a wretched trollop in our family …) Shauna, thank goodness that the old Earl S. had a proper Will to protect his children’s birthright 😇V.A.C. ~ PS You and Lady Campbell have a great giggle😃That is why your Video Podcast Are such GOOD FUN🐕🐕Cheers 🌳🌲🎄🦚🌲🌲🌲
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You are funny. Love it.
Thank you 😁
V amusing…..thanks !
Glad you enjoyed it
You are so lovely person 😀 and soooo fun 😄
Thank you! 😃
🇬🇧 That was so funny! Totally my sense of humour 😂❤
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Oh that was funny! Thank you
Meow, Tina Brown, those discriminations were tasty. What i love about older ladies at that time was they were Drag Queens playng drag queens. The eccentricity is entertaining.
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It can be hard to a step parent
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Yes, it can be hard to be a step parent, especially if you don't take the time to allow everyone to get to know each other. I never trashed their mum to their faces, and I worked with her as much as I could (we were in separate towns). I made it very clear that I didn't want to encroach on her territory.
The kids and I have a fantastic relationship, but we've nurtured it for 36 years.
How funny. Thank you for sharing these stories......
Glad you like them! 😊💗
Diana sounds like lovely, well rounded person.
That was entertaining 😅, Loved it to bits. Thank you so much.
Glad you enjoyed it
Barbara Cartland had a fair few lovers, one of them being the Duke of Kent, its widely believed he was the father of Raine.
Really! Wow (so juicy!) 😊
I’ve heard the Duke of Sutherland mentioned. She didn’t look much like a Windsor.
Well done!
As they say if only the walls could speak😂😂😂😂
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Diana and her sisters and brother were left to their own devices
Sarah supposedly rode a horse up the steps and into the house for some reason 😮
Tina Brown is a fabulous writer. Loved this video❤
She is!
The description of her wonky bouffant is hysterical. I found a photo of Raine taken back in 1950 and she was actually a very beautiful woman. She became very strange looking as she got older.
She did have a beautiful face! (The hair let her down!)
Having been in the dental field, I feel so bad for these two ladies who enjoyed smiling so much. Their bright lipstick showcases poorly fitted crowns on a sea of puffy gums!😢
I know very little about Princess Diana’s family except for her brother, who I became aware of watching her funeral. This book sounds like a good start. Are there other books about the Spencers you might recommend?
I do think The Diana Chronicles gives you a great balanced overview… but I will have to have a think about one that focuses more on the Spencers…leave it with me! 😉
Oh gosh, what a wild tale. 🤣 And your presentation was perfect 👍
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She had the close relationship with her father, because she was terrified of him leaving her with no one.
Shauna, I’m certainly delighted by this review. I have a long list of books to read once I locate them. My library was very rude about locating Daughter of Narcissisa by Lady C.
I always found Dame Edna rather attractive, in an odd way 😊
It was how it was back then with the aristos and I do believe that all that family are unkind and cruel. Like Henry who can’t wish his father happiness even in the marriage H has made for himself
Lady C gave you a Shout Out today!9/21 Royal Update video.
I will check it out 💗
Thank you for sharing Shauna. The quips you shared are hilarious!! I had visuals in my mind up until “ your so sexy…”🤮🤮
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I have read multiple books that have stated that Diana pushed Raine down the stairs. I believe Diana in private was totally different than the public persona. In one interview a person asked why on Earth Diana would have done something like that and the person stated that because she was Princess of Wales that she knew she was untouchable. All quite interesting to say the least.
Wow that was really interesting Shauna.
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Glad you enjoyed it, thanks! 😊
Once you begin laughing I'm pretty sure all of us listening start to crack up, too.
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Crown jewels wink wink, push & shove down staircases (or kitchen floors) blow up arguments, kicked out of houses, a woman setting her sights directly on potential aristocratic rich husband. Well well well Looks like nothing has changed ! Sounds like a certain Spencer offspring inherited the drama gene ! 😂
Drama gene indeed!
Shauna, that made me laugh out loud! Of course, I had to Google Raine Spencers hair. Wow. It reminds me of Gary Oldman as Dracula in the movie. I don't know how that could be considered attractive but different strokes for different folks" I guess. Maybe the enormous hair is an aristocratic status symbol?
Gary Oldman! 💗👏🤗😂
The hair is huge!
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I'm so glad to see you talk about this!! I think it is a critically important thing to understand -- Diana was the unwanted 3rd daughter in a really screwed up family situation, her mum left them when she was very young. Its no surprise that Diana grew up desperate for escape, attention and approval. Tina Brown absolutely nailed the description of Raine!! She and her mother were just over the top tacky.
Harry definitely got Diana's crudeness. The time Diana won the race at Harry's school was because the other mothers were protecting their sons from Harry who would have retaliated if Diana had lost
Yes I’m sure that’s true🙄
I wonder if Barbara Cartland got her DBE & CStJ because the queen mum loved her trashy novels!?
I don't know much about Raine, except her mother was determined her daughter would marry a title.
About Barbara, I do know she was caught plagerising some terminology of another novelist in the 20th century.
She was written to by the 'other' writer's solicitor informing Barbara's misdemeanour has been noticed & it would be appreciated if she would kindly STOP, it never happened again!
What a fabulous story!
Earl Spencer Snr was a pretty revolting specimen forcing pregnancy after pregnancy on his wife to produce the heir. By the time the son was born she loathed her husband.
And she finally produced that pathetic excuse for Diana's only brother, whom Diana was so close with as a child, and who (reportedly) refused her refuge at Althorp after the divorce from Charles.
WOW! You knocked it put of the park today. A little mischievous section as well as the complex Princess Diana. I am reading The Courtier but thinks it’s too slow with details. I would love to hear your thoughts on it. Thanks for the laughs and have a blessed day 🙏🏾
Yes I agree very complex! Fascinating take on that inner palace world though!
The stairs incident was before Sarah's wedding and it was only good fortune that she wasn't killed. As it was, she was badly hurt.
I thought Diana got to be friends with Raine later in life.
I love your reviews, the book sounds great and the descriptions of Barbara Cartland and Raine Spencer sound spot on. Have to say though - Althorp is pronounced Althrop. I know this is crazy and makes no sense in relation to the spelling but that’s strange English pronunciation for you.
Oh interesting! I suspected but I thought I might sound a little pretentious 😂💗😎
I heard Diana tell the story of hitting her Dad across the face and she seemed oddly pleased to share that she had done such an unthinkable thing.
My estimation of her plummeted. Her own father! Because she disagreed with a decision he'd made?
I never held her on a pedestal but did always like the imperfect person she seemed to be, but hitting a person (your own father!) and in the face, really goes beyond the pale for me. It's almost as awful as her actions telling 8 yr old Hawwy: "Get away from me kid, you bother me..."
Thank you Shauna, aren't descriptions interesting? quite often I think they tell you as much about the author of the description as they do about the subject. Funny but ultimately dismissive and belittling is how these come across. How sad for Raine being subjected to the spite of some of the Spencers, she sounds to have been a woman who remained untimately herself and an interesting person to know.
Glenconner was as mad as cheese.
David Letterman did a good interview with Barbara Cartland in 1983….. It is here on TH-cam….. Her dress is gorgeous, and she seems so sweet 🍬…..(Could that huge diamond ring she is wearing possibly be real?). ✨💍✨
I’ll check it out! 😊
I have seen Diana telling the story about hitting her father across The face..
on a recording, talking to her "drama" teacher.. he was the person teaching her to speak in public...
Sticky tape? Thanks for the tip!!
Already tried it! 😂💗
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Marlene Dietrich used a gold chain that ran over her head and under her chin to hoist up her jowls. I've tried it with an elastic band - effective, but uncomfortable and probably cuts off circulation to the brain.
I’ve always thought Diana became friendly with Raine Spencer later to hurt her mother. She had fallen out with her mother and next thing she was seen out eating with Raine Spencer. I think she introduced Raine to Mohammad Fayad who give Raine a job in Harrods.
Who could forget Barbara Cartland? She wore so much make up and powder that her features seemed fuzzy. I tried reading one of her novelettes once when I was a teenager. Never finished it though, there were too many heaving bosoms and strong manly chests, so I went back to reading Georgette Heyer whose novels all but filled the 'H' shelf of the local library.
How rude 😮😆😅🤣🤣😜