First time I took my 14’ 14K dump trailer to get gravel I ended up getting 10 ton when it was rated 5 ton. I didn’t realize what 5 ton looked like so I kept telling the loader driver keep going 😂. Truck and trailer handled the load just fine but when it came dumping it was a different story. Telescopic cylinders are awesome but not with twice the rated capacity.
Nice trailer, good things take time. There's a video of a dual pump conversion tested on a PJ trailer giving it a faster dump cycle, but it's a twin ram set up.
Smashed the thumbs up button, as always. Been running dumpers since my first(2002 EZ Dumper). Best thing I ever did Sam is run two welding cables from the dual truck batt's, under and along the pickup frame(zip tied,etc), to a Anderson style quick connector mounted just underneath the rear bumper. Then added about 6 or so feet to the battery in the trailer with a matching Anderson style connector. Now you've got 3 batteries worth of amp's. Never, ever had a problem again. Unlimited dumps throughout the day at full power. Which really saves the pump motor from low voltage and overheating the windings. Also, I kept a farm jack mounted to the triler so when I was too heavy to dump I would put the farm jack just under the front of the bed and begin jacking as I hit the lift button. Believe it or not it would lift everytime within about 4" or so then take off. Saved me from shoveling. Bought all new stuff this year, 2021 Ram 3500SRW, H.O. Cummins, Aisen, Laramie, and just got a 2021 Iron Bull,16", 14K, Deckover gooseneck. Awesome content as always.
To hell with battery pumps on dumps ! I ran remotes from the hydraulics on my truck to the rear and put quick couplers that the dump trailer plugs into. No more dead batteries and more power to lift the loads (no more shoveling) and the best part is being able to run the trailer whilst sitting in the A/C !!!!
With lippert self adjust brakes to adjust them squeeze and release your brake controller while driving forward several times will get them adjust right up for you.
Dump trailers are one of the coolest trailers out there, in my opinion. Your truck can be a equipment hauler, dump truck, log truck, ect. Nice trailer, Sam!
I wish I could kiss the guy on the lips who made them tbh… I own a outdoor maintenance company in boston but we do Aton of concrete these things Haul equipment, materials, can put the sides on for leaf cleanup, move snow
Sweet trailer. I have a 7x16x2 Lamar GN and i have had too much weight too far forward more than once without equipment to make that adjustment by moving material. You only do that so many times! GN trailers tow so much better!
That’s one cool dump wagon Sam. I own a gooseneck dump trailer made by Carson trailers but that one by Diamond C is my dream dump to have to be able to haul the bigger/heavier equipment too
The funny thing is cameras never do justice for quality and I've bought several brand new trailers over the years but the coating on that diamond C looks like a paint job on a pickup almost beautiful trailer man
I like you still got the OG truck there in the back and looks like you still work it. Also the only time you need volume in a dump trailer is with light material like wood or hauling machine. My dump truck has a 8x11 bed with 2' sides and I can't get enough mulch in it to overload it but less than half the bed with rock and she's squating.
Hey Sam, love the new trailer. I am looking at the same one 18ft with the telescoping cylinder. I added another battery in parallel on my 16ft dump and it dumps a lot faster also. Thanks for the videos
One mod you might want to make is cut the d rings off the bottom in the rear and move them up to the bottom of the sides. On the floor they seem to catch everything when you dump especially if you are hauling logs or something. Drove me nuts for a couple years till i finally did it to mine and haven't looked back. I just got a few weld on and welded them to a small piece of plate to reinforce it. Might no need to on yours since those sidewalls are a little thicker. Other than that nice trailer. Im still not sold on the scissor lift tho. Ive accidently grossly over loaded mine which is a double ram set up and it still will lift it no sweat.
I have a Load Trail, deckover style dump trailer and I think you may have been happier with it. The bed is wider, same capacity as your trailer and just by watching your videos I can tell you the Load Trail cycles much quicker. None the less, very nice trailer!
I bought a 16ft gooseneck PJ. I had 8 tons in it. It didn't pickup either. And my battery as well was dead. They just didn't charge it. My magic number is 7 tons. All day.
My advice is put a 15k winch up front and top so you can winch up heavy loads to a point where leverage is on the dump side so you can dump about any weight without worry and helps lift cylinder and theres a 30watt or 50watt solar battery tender that works better then the small 10watt and go agm or lithium battery....
I remember one time i was tasked with renting a truck with a dumb bed. Was an isuzu 5 ton with a box dump bed. I just need two yards of 5/8th minus, they gave me three. Was scary as shit driving that overloaded truck through the streets of seattle.
Usually if it will lift it a few inches, it will dump it. So you can try to lifting it just a few inches before leaving were you are loaded to be "more" sure it will dump it at the destination (assuming you can get it adjusted where you are loading).... Of coarse that assumes you won't be dumping it uphill (anymore than where you were loaded)...... Nice trailer & video, have a good one!
Nice, I SURE DONT LIKE THAT SCISSOR LIFT. THEY JUST DONT HAVE THE LEVERAGE NEEDED.. I LOVE FRONT TELESCOPIC S. OTHER THAN THAT I AM PERSONALLY BUYING A DIAMOUND-C, LOVE THE STRONG I BEAM SUSPENION ALSO. ITS A DAMN WELL BUILT TRAILER. MINE WILL BE 16FT WITH 28 IN SIDES ,HEAVY DUTY AXLES 8K OR 10K. I JUST WANT THE BEEF TO GET THINGS DONE, WILL HAVE GOOSENECK. ALSO.WITH GMC DIESEL TRUCK.. WILL BE HAULING GRAVEL,SAND,LIME ROCK.AND ANY THING ELSE I CAN GET IN THERE. IT WILL BE RATED FOR, FARM USE.WILL HAVE A JOHN DEERE 332P.I DROVE SEMI 38 YEARS SO THIS WILL BE MY RETIREMENT PROJECTS. THANK YOU, YOU HAVE A NICE SET UP SO ENJOY. KEEP ON TRUCKING.!!!!! JOHN, LAKEVILLE MINNESOTA.!!!!
Not what you can haul, it's what you can dump :) You could have fired the front hydraulic jacks to lift the trailer up a bit of an angle to give the main scissor a bit more of a chance. It's to bad those landing jacks couldn't go up higher as those two are probably 12k jacks, more than the scissor! . Just de couple from the goooseneck and lift the thing up as high as it will go and then fire the scissor. You are a brave man dumping near that power pole, be wary of a "Flash Over" effect where if you get to close to a high power power line the power will jump to your elevated deck and fry everything in the vicinity.
I totally understand and Agree, if you Can't repair or maintain your Equipment yourself possibly you don't belong in business 😉. I had my own Backhoes business, had several pieces of Equipment, but I maintain and repair 95 % of it.
Hook the trailer battery up to your truck, 4 gauge wire, anderson connector. And dump the trailer while the truck is running, trailer charges while driving and is topped off by the time you unload, and 14.5 volts makes a big differnce while unloading. Also when you have to buy new batteries buy the biggest most ridiculously expensive battery you can find, you wont regret it
It seems slow but you're moving alot of product so maybe its an even trade off. Besides, you need a minute to drink a Mt. Dew. Now that the battery is up to snuff, maybe give us another view of it dumping a full load of mix or gravel. Best of luck with it.
Thats a monster. My 3500 and bumper pull is 12,600. My next one will be a gooseneck for sure. Ive had mine loaded to about 32,000 gross once and it did it fine but I was nervous the whole time. I’m not a big fan of the scissor hoist but other wise an awesome looking trailer.
Run single 0 from the truck battery to the trailer. My 14k pj dump wouldn’t dump 6 ton ran the wire and It dumped it with ease, when it was loaded legal it would raise crazy fast. Worked with a guy that ran long ass jumper cables from his truck to trailer the pumps really appreciate the extra amps.
Very very cool trailer!! I always bought a high quality electric jack for my camping trailers!! Other folks would be sweating their "trailer balls" off unhooking, while I had a beer in one hand!! LOL They ran $4-5 hundred in the day, but so well worth it!! All my cargo, and flat beds have them now!! 8) JMHO --gary
I have a 2020 PJ that’s a 16’ but otherwise same exact trailer. I believe mine comes in at about 6,750 on weight empty. Same thing on loading, keep it to the back. Was running the shocker hitch and seemed to help but moved it to my tilt deck. Keep up the good work and congrats on the new addition.
@@maximumwoof8662 no diamond c available at the time. Seems to be the same problem still. Would love to have one. Especially with all the issues I had with a brand new trailer.
have a similar trailer just a little smaller, if it gets plugged in at night i get like 3 dumps max before i gotta hook a jump box up to the battery for it to dump
Do you think the wide track front end on the 5500 would have helped in that tight spot vs the 3500? Looking to get a similar setup and can’t decide if the extra cost of the 5500 would be worth it or needed pulling 24-26k max loaded.
Nice trailer. But that’s disappointing it didn’t dump that for such a expensive trailer regardless of where it’s loaded. Would think it would have to be a good bit overloaded for it to not work.
Need a telescopic hoist. I got a sure-trac 7x16 21k, hoist and it will lift 11 tons of gravel as I tested it, but I always haul around 9 tons of rock in it, etc never any issues. Wish I would have got the 10k axles instead of having the 3, 7k axles, but dont think that brand makes it with 10k.
Load center makes a HUGE difference. Look at forklift ratings. A slightly overweight payload slightly forward of center isn't going to dump in most trailers. Yes, a telescopic would help, but they come with their own drawbacks. JMHO
I wonder if one could plum in a second electric pump to speed the lift or if a Pto pump off truck or a gas powered pump would be better nice trailer though for sure
if you have 2 batteries in your dump bed it could help the hydraulic pump lift the load . if it has 2 batteries from the factory add 1 more . you might see a difference with the load in the proper place.
Can move thousands of lbs more per trip with a flatbed (like you said) as long as you have equipment on other end... I'll run straps in two log pile layers, hook straps on forks, pick up pile & then dump front of straps off forks & leave straps on back of forks & pull straps out from under pile.. Never have to get off lift to unload..
put a good charge controller on your solar cell to the lift battery. Then your lift pump will run cooler with a little higher voltage plus could solve your forward 18k lift problem.
I've rolled off the scale at 28k before in my 04 2500 Cummins. It was a little much for my rig. Thats what happens when you ask for 5 tons and get almost 8.
I don't understand why US trailer axles are always so far back and not located more in the centre of the trailer to reduce nose weight and improve balance?
@@NgNg-p5c because our daily driver trucks we commute in aren’t small. They can handle some weight forward. I really don’t like axles centered on a trailer. Dangerous if loaded wrong
Cool trailer but I noticed you adjusted the gooseneck coupler after switching trucks but diamond c does offer a load leveler coupler but I am sure you knew what you were doing when getting this trailer. Cool video
Finally subscribed, I've watched several. I've been looking at diamond c trailers a lot lately, they have a lot of features they offer that stands out over other manufacturers, my question to you is do you think the scissor lift is better than the telescoping?
Every time I drive up towards Tahoe I see someone towing all their possessions on a trailer. Couches, deer heads, pots and pans ect. I'm a bit jealous wishing I was financially stable enough to do the same.
@@jacobwrona don’t worry, I’m in NJ and its not much better here. I have 21 years invested in my career, pension, 401k, which is all about to be used as leverage against me if i dont go along with these vaccine mandates - that i dont agree with. Time will tell how that will end.
@@kctyphoon I’m expecting to have to walk away from a 20 year career. (California City Fire Captain). My health is not worth any career. I’ll survive. So will you. Got a CAT 309, Chevy 4500Hd, and trailers on the way. I’ll be hotshot-n and building a business.
@@IronHideWildfireI would like to thank you for your service and offer my apology on behalf of the state, which I believe has overstepped its authority. Having a feeling this all was coming I bought a Cat 304 and I'm trying to make a living with it while I try to get my CDL. I probably put the cart before the horse buying the 304 first but now my feet are glued to the bicycle pedals so to speak and I have to continue down the road I chose. I'd share drinks with someone infected before I play russian roulette with a medical treatment that was unknown a year ago. Vaccines take years for approval normally and I can't ignore every other commercial saying "if you or a loved one was injured by whatever new pharmaceuticals that were popular 5 years ago please call the law offices of ..." If I survived the last 19 months without medical intervention, I think my immune system is going to manage just fine. Either way, working for myself provides me with job security.
Hey Sam.....shes a beauty. Curious tho....where the wireless remote? Also why not hydraulic discs? I'm thinking of switching to a C from my current setup but I'm not into the chains that hold the barn doors open. My current has a spring latch and it works sweet. Wonder if that's an option on the diamonds.
Nice trailer! I tried to buy one but couldn't afford it, LOL Went with a PJ DE model 22k, 7'x16'x3', tare weight is 7300 lbs. You will use it for everything. They are my go too trailer. I also have a Lamar 18k, 7'x16'x3', tare weight is 6500 lbs. Are your sides 32"? Make some side boards for light bulky loads, such as chips and mulch. I wish the industry would come up with a faster dump system, they are all slow.
That’s a super nice trailer I would like to see and update on how it’s holding up after two years !! And are those 10k axles ? If so How is it rated for 24k
Nice trailer! I just bought a Texas Pride Gooseneck 7x18 20k dual ram and got it delivered a few weeks ago and that's what I did first thing. Pulled into my gravel pit and I threw in 9.3 ton of class 5. Dumped it no problem but I loaded it more over the axles. Gonna use it for hauling in rip-rap outta the farmers fields and logs for my sawmill. Was very unimpressed by the fact they talked me into a spreader gate, which sounds like a great feature to have, then sell the trailer with a cord that doesn't reach the drivers window. I asked them if I'm spose to hire someone to walk along side to help dump it ffs...guy had the nerve to tell me I was the 1st person to ever bitch about it and I said ya right lol. Seems like it lacks some welding also but we shall see how it holds up. I did go with heavier gauge steel and 12" centers. Gonna look at the Circle C in the spring for a Gooseneck flatbed trailer. Thanks for your videos ! Keep-em coming !!
A wireless winch remote works for dump trailers for a lot cheaper than a dump remote, because the ol lady got tired of riding in the bed of the truck with the remote 🤣🤣🤣
Dump trailer are for brush and lumber scraps I tried a friends thinking of buying one was just not impressed. Four t770 skid steer buckets of dirt and nope wouldn’t dump. That made my decision
@@VBELTandSON I think 80% of new dump trailer users load it wrong. Its one thing hauling lumber and tree debris, its another hauling aggregate and dirt. Like you mentioned, loading just a bit too forward can stop it from dumping, thats easy to do on such a long dump trailer too.. great looking trailer.
Okay, ... I subscribed (i subscribe to No One). I watched for the super singles. Would've liked to see the axles.. Nice video. I lol'd when the mulcher came down hard, felt that one. Also thought you needed the stabilizers down a little bit more, but seemed to work out👌. Happy you went scissor,... keeping it in the USA 👍. I'd FULLY charge that battery the second it arrived. They sulfate from new, not good. Also, pet theory of mine, but honestly, i would dump that thing a third way up and down multiple times with just low weight in it to smooth and break in all the bearing surfaces in the rear hinges and those in the lift. Then regrease. Consider it as a break in for making it go up. Just a suggestion. As usual, super informative video thanks ☮️ ~
Yeah I don't think Im ever gonna buy a scissor hoist trailer a telescopic hoist will literally lift anything aslong as your battery is charged watching the scissor struggle with payload not even overloaded kinda reassures me not to even look at them. They got there place for sure in my opinion great for hauling mulch and light stuff. But nice looking trailer for sure.
Only thing i don't like is their ramps just hook onto the rub rails.... That means ALL of the machine weight is on just a few welds. Don't like it at all. If one weld breaks, the machine goes down sideways. On my SureTrac (or H&H) dump, the ramps grab the rub rail as well, But they Also have a Thick (1/2") bent plate that extends onto the flat of the deck. The machine is thus supported by the Back of the trailer, not just the rub rails. Nice trailer, heavy. With the wheels so far back (which i like), u prolly could have gotten away with bumper pull. Wouldve saved at least 500#s... But that also would have been risky if mistakenly loaded too tongue heavy ~
@@gungadinn I can say you are incorrect my family and I have owned every make and model of dump trailer for the family construction company Texas Pride trailer have held up the best over the last 5 years no structural problems or mechanical issues with the hydraulic pump
First time I took my 14’ 14K dump trailer to get gravel I ended up getting 10 ton when it was rated 5 ton. I didn’t realize what 5 ton looked like so I kept telling the loader driver keep going 😂. Truck and trailer handled the load just fine but when it came dumping it was a different story. Telescopic cylinders are awesome but not with twice the rated capacity.
Dudes business has more trucks and trailers for a two man operation than anyone!
Nice trailer, good things take time. There's a video of a dual pump conversion tested on a PJ trailer giving it a faster dump cycle, but it's a twin ram set up.
Smashed the thumbs up button, as always. Been running dumpers since my first(2002 EZ Dumper). Best thing I ever did Sam is run two welding cables from the dual truck batt's, under and along the pickup frame(zip tied,etc), to a Anderson style quick connector mounted just underneath the rear bumper. Then added about 6 or so feet to the battery in the trailer with a matching Anderson style connector. Now you've got 3 batteries worth of amp's. Never, ever had a problem again. Unlimited dumps throughout the day at full power. Which really saves the pump motor from low voltage and overheating the windings. Also, I kept a farm jack mounted to the triler so when I was too heavy to dump I would put the farm jack just under the front of the bed and begin jacking as I hit the lift button. Believe it or not it would lift everytime within about 4" or so then take off. Saved me from shoveling. Bought all new stuff this year, 2021 Ram 3500SRW, H.O. Cummins, Aisen, Laramie, and just got a 2021 Iron Bull,16", 14K, Deckover gooseneck. Awesome content as always.
Same plug in setup on both my trailers with batteries! Helps keep those batteries fresh for winching and dumping.
Dude, the farm jack idea is great. I am adding one for sure, I’ve had to shovel once and it was one time too many.
Great information brother!! Thank you
@@Andrewactual New setup sounds great and yet another saved by "The farm Jack"💪👍
To hell with battery pumps on dumps ! I ran remotes from the hydraulics on my truck to the rear and put quick couplers that the dump trailer plugs into. No more dead batteries and more power to lift the loads (no more shoveling) and the best part is being able to run the trailer whilst sitting in the A/C !!!!
Nice trailer, let’s go Brandon
😂😂
And thank you
Agreed. LGB
Let's go Brandon!
It’s always applicable and always awesome. Lost it when I read this 😂.
LETS GO BRANDON!
With lippert self adjust brakes to adjust them squeeze and release your brake controller while driving forward several times will get them adjust right up for you.
Dump trailers are one of the coolest trailers out there, in my opinion. Your truck can be a equipment hauler, dump truck, log truck, ect. Nice trailer, Sam!
I wish I could kiss the guy on the lips who made them tbh…
I own a outdoor maintenance company in boston but we do Aton of concrete these things
Haul equipment, materials, can put the sides on for leaf cleanup, move snow
Also, raise your bed about a foot or so to cut down on the break over angle when loading tracked equipment. Makes the transition 1000x better.
The laugh after the mulching head coming down on the top of the trailer got me. I wouldn't have laughed, I'd have been cussing myself out 😂
Sweet trailer. I have a 7x16x2 Lamar GN and i have had too much weight too far forward more than once without equipment to make that adjustment by moving material. You only do that so many times! GN trailers tow so much better!
That’s one cool dump wagon Sam. I own a gooseneck dump trailer made by Carson trailers but that one by Diamond C is my dream dump to have to be able to haul the bigger/heavier equipment too
The funny thing is cameras never do justice for quality and I've bought several brand new trailers over the years but the coating on that diamond C looks like a paint job on a pickup almost beautiful trailer man
Love how he says “it’s a doge” nice trailer
Love my 42,000lb tare, and 98,000lb payload. Mind it's a tri-axle truck and tri-axle pup trailer(7 axles)
That is really a fine setup!
I like you still got the OG truck there in the back and looks like you still work it. Also the only time you need volume in a dump trailer is with light material like wood or hauling machine. My dump truck has a 8x11 bed with 2' sides and I can't get enough mulch in it to overload it but less than half the bed with rock and she's squating.
Which one?
@@VBELTandSON The 3rd gen single wheel.
Hey Sam, love the new trailer. I am looking at the same one 18ft with the telescoping cylinder. I added another battery in parallel on my 16ft dump and it dumps a lot faster also. Thanks for the videos
not sure if you were looking at a Diamond C, but the telescopic (LPT) longest available is 16' were you looking at the WDT or a different brand?
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One mod you might want to make is cut the d rings off the bottom in the rear and move them up to the bottom of the sides. On the floor they seem to catch everything when you dump especially if you are hauling logs or something. Drove me nuts for a couple years till i finally did it to mine and haven't looked back. I just got a few weld on and welded them to a small piece of plate to reinforce it. Might no need to on yours since those sidewalls are a little thicker. Other than that nice trailer. Im still not sold on the scissor lift tho. Ive accidently grossly over loaded mine which is a double ram set up and it still will lift it no sweat.
oh ya
Very nice Sam I like it, Put about a 4”long 2x4 block on each side of the frame and make it step down and you want have any problems dumping.
I have a Load Trail, deckover style dump trailer and I think you may have been happier with it. The bed is wider, same capacity as your trailer and just by watching your videos I can tell you the Load Trail cycles much quicker. None the less, very nice trailer!
I bought a 16ft gooseneck PJ. I had 8 tons in it. It didn't pickup either. And my battery as well was dead. They just didn't charge it. My magic number is 7 tons. All day.
Love the choice and the channel. 👍 Brandon approves.
My advice is put a 15k winch up front and top so you can winch up heavy loads to a point where leverage is on the dump side so you can dump about any weight without worry and helps lift cylinder and theres a 30watt or 50watt solar battery tender that works better then the small 10watt and go agm or lithium battery....
I remember one time i was tasked with renting a truck with a dumb bed. Was an isuzu 5 ton with a box dump bed. I just need two yards of 5/8th minus, they gave me three. Was scary as shit driving that overloaded truck through the streets of seattle.
Usually if it will lift it a few inches, it will dump it. So you can try to lifting it just a few inches before leaving were you are loaded to be "more" sure it will dump it at the destination (assuming you can get it adjusted where you are loading).... Of coarse that assumes you won't be dumping it uphill (anymore than where you were loaded)......
Nice trailer & video, have a good one!
That TL12 is so tight in there you don’t even have to chain it down. Nice trailer brother. My 12 foot will fit inside that thing
Good job amigo good trucks and trailers
Nice, I SURE DONT LIKE THAT SCISSOR LIFT. THEY JUST DONT HAVE THE LEVERAGE NEEDED.. I LOVE FRONT TELESCOPIC S. OTHER THAN THAT I AM PERSONALLY BUYING A DIAMOUND-C, LOVE THE STRONG I BEAM SUSPENION ALSO. ITS A DAMN WELL BUILT TRAILER. MINE WILL BE 16FT WITH 28 IN SIDES ,HEAVY DUTY AXLES 8K OR 10K. I JUST WANT THE BEEF TO GET THINGS DONE, WILL HAVE GOOSENECK. ALSO.WITH GMC DIESEL TRUCK.. WILL BE HAULING GRAVEL,SAND,LIME ROCK.AND ANY THING ELSE I CAN GET IN THERE. IT WILL BE RATED FOR, FARM USE.WILL HAVE A JOHN DEERE 332P.I DROVE SEMI 38 YEARS SO THIS WILL BE MY RETIREMENT PROJECTS. THANK YOU, YOU HAVE A NICE SET UP SO ENJOY. KEEP ON TRUCKING.!!!!! JOHN, LAKEVILLE MINNESOTA.!!!!
Diamond 💎C makes a very nice trailer, thanks for sharing Sam👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
Not what you can haul, it's what you can dump :) You could have fired the front hydraulic jacks to lift the trailer up a bit of an angle to give the main scissor a bit more of a chance. It's to bad those landing jacks couldn't go up higher as those two are probably 12k jacks, more than the scissor! . Just de couple from the goooseneck and lift the thing up as high as it will go and then fire the scissor. You are a brave man dumping near that power pole, be wary of a "Flash Over" effect where if you get to close to a high power power line the power will jump to your elevated deck and fry everything in the vicinity.
I totally understand and Agree, if you Can't repair or maintain your Equipment yourself possibly you don't belong in business 😉. I had my own Backhoes business, had several pieces of Equipment, but I maintain and repair 95 % of it.
Hook the trailer battery up to your truck, 4 gauge wire, anderson connector. And dump the trailer while the truck is running, trailer charges while driving and is topped off by the time you unload, and 14.5 volts makes a big differnce while unloading. Also when you have to buy new batteries buy the biggest most ridiculously expensive battery you can find, you wont regret it
I can't wait to get mine should be picking mine up the first one November but I went 16' and telescoping cylinder
I put almost 13k of gravel in our 16 ft big tex trailer is rated 10.9k it still lifted it but I had to push some of the dirt back like you
It seems slow but you're moving alot of product so maybe its an even trade off. Besides, you need a minute to drink a Mt. Dew.
Now that the battery is up to snuff, maybe give us another view of it dumping a full load of mix or gravel.
Best of luck with it.
Haha I like that. Dew break 😎
I would put diamond plate on the ramps before you get them bent up. That's what I did with mine. Used them hundreds of times and not one bend or dent.
Awesome trailer. Can’t wait to see you use it more
Thats a monster. My 3500 and bumper pull is 12,600. My next one will be a gooseneck for sure. Ive had mine loaded to about 32,000 gross once and it did it fine but I was nervous the whole time. I’m not a big fan of the scissor hoist but other wise an awesome looking trailer.
9t thats as much as i put on the tandem dump when I'm hauling a tag with iron behind it, not bad for a little truck at all.
It looks good behind your truck. Try charging battery 🔋. But it might just be a slow flow on the pump
Run single 0 from the truck battery to the trailer. My 14k pj dump wouldn’t dump 6 ton ran the wire and It dumped it with ease, when it was loaded legal it would raise crazy fast. Worked with a guy that ran long ass jumper cables from his truck to trailer the pumps really appreciate the extra amps.
I should do something like that. I wanna try to jump box in it and see how it’s rips
Build some bolsters for the flatbed and haul logs that way if you have a way to unload.
Nice new trailer it’s a boss of a trailer. Keep up the good work and stay safe out there.
Very very cool trailer!! I always bought a high quality electric jack for my camping trailers!! Other folks would be sweating their "trailer balls" off unhooking, while I had a beer in one hand!! LOL They ran $4-5 hundred in the day, but so well worth it!! All my cargo, and flat beds have them now!! 8) JMHO --gary
I have a 2020 PJ that’s a 16’ but otherwise same exact trailer. I believe mine comes in at about 6,750 on weight empty. Same thing on loading, keep it to the back. Was running the shocker hitch and seemed to help but moved it to my tilt deck. Keep up the good work and congrats on the new addition.
diamond c for the win
@@maximumwoof8662 no diamond c available at the time. Seems to be the same problem still. Would love to have one. Especially with all the issues I had with a brand new trailer.
Add more batteries, don't have to but it helps!
I have 3 batteries on mine,speeds it up and lasts a lot longer if I'm using it constantly all day
have a similar trailer just a little smaller, if it gets plugged in at night i get like 3 dumps max before i gotta hook a jump box up to the battery for it to dump
I’ve only ran 2 runs in one day it seemed like it was doing ok. I’ll most likely add another battery
Do you think the wide track front end on the 5500 would have helped in that tight spot vs the 3500?
Looking to get a similar setup and can’t decide if the extra cost of the 5500 would be worth it or needed pulling 24-26k max loaded.
3500 putting in work 💪🏻💪🏻👊👍
I knew one was on order. Congrats!
Nice trailer. But that’s disappointing it didn’t dump that for such a expensive trailer regardless of where it’s loaded. Would think it would have to be a good bit overloaded for it to not work.
Need a telescopic hoist. I got a sure-trac 7x16 21k, hoist and it will lift 11 tons of gravel as I tested it, but I always haul around 9 tons of rock in it, etc never any issues. Wish I would have got the 10k axles instead of having the 3, 7k axles, but dont think that brand makes it with 10k.
@@krice24 the telescopic hoist will dump anything, but like he said they can get in the way when hauling equipment above the. Box
Load center makes a HUGE difference. Look at forklift ratings. A slightly overweight payload slightly forward of center isn't going to dump in most trailers. Yes, a telescopic would help, but they come with their own drawbacks. JMHO
@@jml6357 can you explain these drawbacks? I’m about to buy one and like to know. Thank you
Geez in PA Be are starting to have hoodies on and shorts during the day. No more nice weather
I had a accident pulling a trailer since then I learned that you should pull a trailer with the right truck and the right weight.
Always a good idea
I wonder if one could plum in a second electric pump to speed the lift or if a Pto pump off truck or a gas powered pump would be better nice trailer though for sure
#V-BeltandSon . LuvYu Sam . Great trucks and trailers 👍🏾
if you have 2 batteries in your dump bed it could help the hydraulic pump lift the load . if it has 2 batteries from the factory add 1 more . you might see a difference with the load in the proper place.
Nice fancy Trailer and Sweet Tow Rig.
Love it! Looking at starting a land clearing business here in northern Idaho. 👍
Moving up there after the 1st of the year, let me know if you need a hand👍🏼
@@andrewsalazar4955 feel free to follow my TH-cam channel, that way you can know when I start :).
I try to tell the loader operator always load to the back and then to the front of the trailor.
Can move thousands of lbs more per trip with a flatbed (like you said) as long as you have equipment on other end... I'll run straps in two log pile layers, hook straps on forks, pick up pile & then dump front of straps off forks & leave straps on back of forks & pull straps out from under pile.. Never have to get off lift to unload..
put a good charge controller on your solar cell to the lift battery. Then your lift pump will run cooler with a little higher voltage plus could solve your forward 18k lift problem.
If I can afford a 2x7k axle 16ft Dump trailer should I go bumper or gooseneck. I'm watching video with no sound so not sure if you cover that.
You need to build a header board to keep the weight off the front 5 feet of trailer
Great video
Do you need COMMERCIAL insurance for trailer or which kind?
@@Furrygumball71 thank you and technically you insurance coverage if from the truck but you need a cdl to tow this trailer
That stone is deceivingly heavy!!
Awesome setup! Are those 10K axles? 18’ really is a perfect length.
I've rolled off the scale at 28k before in my 04 2500 Cummins. It was a little much for my rig. Thats what happens when you ask for 5 tons and get almost 8.
My 16 foot Walton won’t dump a heavy load have had to scrape it out more than once with the tractor bucket
Looking at this trailer for the excavator. Do you have a link to a vid where you hauled the mini ex?
I don't understand why US trailer axles are always so far back and not located more in the centre of the trailer to reduce nose weight and improve balance?
@@NgNg-p5c because our daily driver trucks we commute in aren’t small. They can handle some weight forward. I really don’t like axles centered on a trailer. Dangerous if loaded wrong
Cool trailer but I noticed you adjusted the gooseneck coupler after switching trucks but diamond c does offer a load leveler coupler but I am sure you knew what you were doing when getting this trailer. Cool video
It was wrong hight from the start had to fix it. All trucks ram that new hight
@@VBELTandSON makes sense super cool trailer though for sure
Finally subscribed, I've watched several. I've been looking at diamond c trailers a lot lately, they have a lot of features they offer that stands out over other manufacturers, my question to you is do you think the scissor lift is better than the telescoping?
cant lift shat
So when is everyone leaving California?
Every time I drive up towards Tahoe I see someone towing all their possessions on a trailer. Couches, deer heads, pots and pans ect. I'm a bit jealous wishing I was financially stable enough to do the same.
@@jacobwrona don’t worry, I’m in NJ and its not much better here. I have 21 years invested in my career, pension, 401k, which is all about to be used as leverage against me if i dont go along with these vaccine mandates - that i dont agree with. Time will tell how that will end.
@@kctyphoon I’m expecting to have to walk away from a 20 year career. (California City Fire Captain). My health is not worth any career. I’ll survive. So will you. Got a CAT 309, Chevy 4500Hd, and trailers on the way. I’ll be hotshot-n and building a business.
@@kctyphoon do not take the poison !
@@IronHideWildfireI would like to thank you for your service and offer my apology on behalf of the state, which I believe has overstepped its authority. Having a feeling this all was coming I bought a Cat 304 and I'm trying to make a living with it while I try to get my CDL. I probably put the cart before the horse buying the 304 first but now my feet are glued to the bicycle pedals so to speak and I have to continue down the road I chose. I'd share drinks with someone infected before I play russian roulette with a medical treatment that was unknown a year ago. Vaccines take years for approval normally and I can't ignore every other commercial saying "if you or a loved one was injured by whatever new pharmaceuticals that were popular 5 years ago please call the law offices of ..." If I survived the last 19 months without medical intervention, I think my immune system is going to manage just fine. Either way, working for myself provides me with job security.
Hey Sam.....shes a beauty. Curious tho....where the wireless remote? Also why not hydraulic discs? I'm thinking of switching to a C from my current setup but I'm not into the chains that hold the barn doors open. My current has a spring latch and it works sweet. Wonder if that's an option on the diamonds.
Nice trailer! I tried to buy one but couldn't afford it, LOL Went with a PJ DE model 22k, 7'x16'x3', tare weight is 7300 lbs. You will use it for everything. They are my go too trailer. I also have a Lamar 18k, 7'x16'x3', tare weight is 6500 lbs. Are your sides 32"? Make some side boards for light bulky loads, such as chips and mulch. I wish the industry would come up with a faster dump system, they are all slow.
That’s a super nice trailer I would like to see and update on how it’s holding up after two years !! And are those 10k axles ? If so How is it rated for 24k
It’s been great zero issues.
And allowed 25% prorate on. All trailers
That’s how it’s rated at 25,000lbs
@@VBELTandSON would you haul 8 tons regularly on it ? Iam in the market for one but I want to be able to put atleast 8 tons and it lift it no problem
@@angelmartinez-xy1no yes handles it good.
why didn’t you opt out the telescopic lift?
Watch the video I will say;)
Nice trailer! I just bought a Texas Pride Gooseneck 7x18 20k dual ram and got it delivered a few weeks ago and that's what I did first thing. Pulled into my gravel pit and I threw in 9.3 ton of class 5. Dumped it no problem but I loaded it more over the axles. Gonna use it for hauling in rip-rap outta the farmers fields and logs for my sawmill. Was very unimpressed by the fact they talked me into a spreader gate, which sounds like a great feature to have, then sell the trailer with a cord that doesn't reach the drivers window. I asked them if I'm spose to hire someone to walk along side to help dump it ffs...guy had the nerve to tell me I was the 1st person to ever bitch about it and I said ya right lol. Seems like it lacks some welding also but we shall see how it holds up. I did go with heavier gauge steel and 12" centers. Gonna look at the Circle C in the spring for a Gooseneck flatbed trailer. Thanks for your videos ! Keep-em coming !!
A wireless winch remote works for dump trailers for a lot cheaper than a dump remote, because the ol lady got tired of riding in the bed of the truck with the remote 🤣🤣🤣
Lol 😆 🤣 😂
Dump trailer are for brush and lumber scraps I tried a friends thinking of buying one was just not impressed. Four t770 skid steer buckets of dirt and nope wouldn’t dump. That made my decision
Been running a smaller dump trailer for years. 10-12k loads on average. No issues. Perhaps you used a junker dump trailer
@@VBELTandSON I think 80% of new dump trailer users load it wrong. Its one thing hauling lumber and tree debris, its another hauling aggregate and dirt. Like you mentioned, loading just a bit too forward can stop it from dumping, thats easy to do on such a long dump trailer too.. great looking trailer.
Why is the saw mill closed down?
Okay, ... I subscribed (i subscribe to No One). I watched for the super singles. Would've liked to see the axles.. Nice video. I lol'd when the mulcher came down hard, felt that one. Also thought you needed the stabilizers down a little bit more, but seemed to work out👌. Happy you went scissor,... keeping it in the USA 👍. I'd FULLY charge that battery the second it arrived. They sulfate from new, not good. Also, pet theory of mine, but honestly, i would dump that thing a third way up and down multiple times with just low weight in it to smooth and break in all the bearing surfaces in the rear hinges and those in the lift. Then regrease. Consider it as a break in for making it go up. Just a suggestion. As usual, super informative video thanks ☮️ ~
Sweet trailer! Could you do a video on hoss’s splitter? That thing looks sweet!
then 3500 is a nice looking truck
I wonder if the telescoping would have dumped it🤔
They don’t offer the telescoping for anything longer than 16 bed
Yeah, I think that’s the reason why I’m gonna go with her single piston at the very front
They didn’t option the single for a long box like mine
Like the trailer, why not get a tandem dump truck lol?
Dump truck would sit more than it would get used
SICK! 🤠
Yeah I don't think Im ever gonna buy a scissor hoist trailer a telescopic hoist will literally lift anything aslong as your battery is charged watching the scissor struggle with payload not even overloaded kinda reassures me not to even look at them. They got there place for sure in my opinion great for hauling mulch and light stuff. But nice looking trailer for sure.
Awesome
Only thing i don't like is their ramps just hook onto the rub rails.... That means ALL of the machine weight is on just a few welds. Don't like it at all. If one weld breaks, the machine goes down sideways. On my SureTrac (or H&H) dump, the ramps grab the rub rail as well, But they Also have a Thick (1/2") bent plate that extends onto the flat of the deck. The machine is thus supported by the Back of the trailer, not just the rub rails. Nice trailer, heavy. With the wheels so far back (which i like), u prolly could have gotten away with bumper pull. Wouldve saved at least 500#s... But that also would have been risky if mistakenly loaded too tongue heavy ~
Congratulations on the new trailer and like seeing Hoss in the videos with you
I assume you need your CDL to pull that correct?
👍🏻 yes
Congratulations to you
Wish you would have bought the best trailer in America Texas pride
😂😂
@@VBELTandSON
He's a Ford guy, what's he know?
I've got a 18k Texas pride dump trailer and I'd trade it in a heart beat for a Diamond C
Get the rainbow paint job so you can enter it in the Pride parades.
@@gungadinn I can say you are incorrect my family and I have owned every make and model of dump trailer for the family construction company
Texas Pride trailer have held up the best over the last 5 years no structural problems or mechanical issues with the hydraulic pump
That setup is Sexy !!! That trailers bad a$$ !!!
Wicked trailer bud 😎
Electric motor operated landing gears? Sweet!
Hydraulic :)
@@VBELTandSON I'm used to crank them by hand...
Is the pine going for firewood or milling?
Good luck with the new trailer !
Badass trailer Sam, I might need somethin like it in my life!
Cottontop 3 has an orange one