🕘 Timestamps: 0:00 Introduction 1:10 Introduction of Guests 2:10 The disagreements laid out❗ 2:40 Humiliation on camera 6:00 The solution to humiliation 10:00 The autonomy of those who join 15:10 Taking advantage 19:20 The state of dating 22:10 Substances on the show 27:00 Discussing the length of the show 30:50 Alcohol on the set 32:20 Accountability for those on the podcast 33:10 Brixan weighs in on the alcohol issue 38:00 Superchats 40:50 Being Respectful 42:30 Cry-bullies and the Pit of Vipers 45:30 Entitlement 47:00 Using religion as a tool 53:40 Was she broken? 58:20 OnlyFans ramifications 1:02:30 Judgement and shaming 1:04:40 Wounded girls asking for validation 1:08:50 Admitting sin 1:14:20 Free will 🔥 1:18:40 When is the right time to shame? 1:21:00 Discipline vs. Shame 1:26:40 Andrew's discipline and shame from love 1:29:40 Acting like a Christian 1:33:50 Retracting the statements❗ 1:40:30 Gripes with the bow 1:47:00 Is the bow meant to punish? 1:48:50 Market place value 1:50:50 Second guesses from a wife 1:54:50 The risk of offense and cognitive dissonance 1:58:30 Superchats 2:00:00 Commanding submission 2:03:20 Judgements from Christians 2:05:30 Taking people at their word 2:10:50 The death penalty 2:13:50 The cost and benefit of spreading God's word 2:20:10 Intent vs Impact 2:27:00 Whatever Chaos Roast 2:31:50 Closing statements❗ 2:54:30 Outro
When you've been a smug prick while you've destroyed their ideology, beliefs etc, you virtually guarantee they won't come to you for any help. I absolutely agree that these women need their views destroyed but a series of gotcha's might not be the best way to do this if you want them to be receptive to your message which should be Christ.
He’s not doing it intentionally, but the idea of trying to get rid of shame is a very feminine ideal. Social shaming is probably the thing women are most afraid of, and the weapon they use against one another when fighting each other. Getting rid of shame is a very feminine value even though it’s an effective motivation to stop an action. Men are concerned about the action, women are concerned with how they feel. This kids got the right idea, he’s just got a feminine value centric perspective of the idea.
Women are masters of shaming, they master it before boys in young age. Shame is problem only to feminists and potentially to young women in more traditional society.
I've been an Andrew Wilson fan since I discovered Whatever and The Crucible about a year ago, and this might be one of my favorite debates of his of all time. It was nice to hear him bring about concrete points without being interrupted or sperged at a bunch of times. Just phenomenal!
Yes! And as a Christian, let me just say- you can read the Bible to yourself and read it to others but just reading scripture without explanation, and understanding of the context does absolutely nothing for anyone 😂😂
I think he likes pretending to be morally superior to others because he carries a bible and knows some verses. This kid is a narcissist claiming to be a follower of Christ.
3 minutes in and this dude's opening argument is essentially that the Brian and/or Andrew refused to concede their position for the adult women who came unprepared to a podcast. In other words, I know she is wrong, but you don't have to tell her.
It shows the maturity in the chat… this Luke guy was able to sit through all these rightful corrections by Andrew without becoming emotional, yeah , we don’t agree on our biblical views totally, but this is how a man should take correction. A wise man takes correction but a fool hates wisdom.
ill just use Steven Crowder "change my mind" to discuss this. when he talks to people, unless specifically asked, Steven NEVER discusses his biblical view on the topic. he talks about stats, science, data, ect. the reason is when people fundamentally disagree with religion, if you try to push back with religion, by quoting bible, they WILL shut down and you wont get anywhere. this is the same. he would read them bible.........every single one of their brains would shut down and he would get know where cause they would instantly stop listening.
Andrew Wilson growing white hair trying to help society in America! We need to appreciate it more and as fathers try to make a difference to our sons and daughters
In my opinion, some of you are giving a hard time to a mustache guy. He is this or that but imho this was one of the best series all around. He does not interrupt, Andrew does not interrupt and the talk is really interesting when you compare it to the really crazy people that usually visit the show. A lot of good stuff from both sides. Nice and fair. Respectful. I enjoyed it.
This went pretty well. The kid figured out what was up pretty quickly and didn't filibuster for a couple of hours unlike that chica from a few days ago.
Feeling shame is your own personal feelings. When Jesus told a woman at the well that she was sleeping around + the guy that she's sleeping with is not her husband. Did Jesus mean to shame her or did she just feel ashamed because he spoke the truth?
Should've brought his girlfriend's other boyfriend, Tyronne, to tag team with This guy stood no chance alone he's just the financial buxxer and servant
@@SOBIESKI_freedom … I mean like what does it mean? Like is it any different than a person not even having a degree? Why is having a communications degree worth it??
This guy is alright. He seems like a genuine and honest human being. He's brave for coming on the podcast too, no matter how feminized and delusional he might be.
The problem of this "brave and honest" people is that they are causing harm to society by spreading this delusion and enabling more delusion in others.
Looks like a yes man to me. Absolutely no backbone and didnt even push back on one of Andrews points. I think Andrew could if gone up on the table and started pissing in his face and he would of said yes daddy I concede to your point
Is it delusional to simply believe in imaginary friends and fairytale books that have no evidence of them being true besides the mostly plagiarized made up fantasy book most haven't even read?
@@Jaker-904or maybe he’s just saving face if he took his lumps and moved on then sure but he would acknowledge he was wrong then immediately defend his point 😂 that’s not someone who is taking lumps he’s saving face
@@TonyFromFlorida I’d disagree, retracting your accusations and complaints is not “saving face” it’s admitting defeat. He then went on to ask for further resources in regards to scripture, then agreed to visit an Orthodox Church.
Declining testosterone & masculinity is a serious problem in this country. The old pioneers, frontiersmen and cowboys would just laugh at these young dudes today
It's not our fault, we were abandoned by our culture and fathers. Half of us grew up with single mothers, poisons that reduce testosterone, and technology exposed us to p*rn at 9. This generation of men is the most persecuted, attacked, and feminized generation of men in the history of the world. And on top of all of that we are also stuck with modern women.
@@davef.5131 Not as much, as many of us guys that live out in the sticks still often hunt, fish, have gardens, do manual labor, spend time outdoors and aren’t corrupted by liberalism & feminism BS
When dude disavowed shame.. I wanted to ask him... When someone sucker punches an innocent person, is the person who says "you should be ashamed of yourself" wrong? lmao
This episode is like those COD MW2 days where you wrecked someone in a match, and then they are arrogant enough to call you out on a 1v1, only to get wrecked again 😂😂
Shaming isn’t something you can do to another person. Shame is what you feel when you know you were wrong and are being judged by others. Persecution is something you can do to another person.
Definitely nervous. Any one of us would be, honestly. He's not a bad kid. Just probably gone most of this life giving the safe responses like "just trust Jesus" because that's how he was brought up without deeply studying scripture. You can see the wheels turning in his head as the debate went on, and he agreed to go to an Orthodox Church. That's progress.
He grew that mustache to hide his sardonic grin. He is also dating Nicolette and "dating her at the time of the podcast." 😂 One of his points was breaking down non-believers worldview.
I think he enjoys attempting to be morally superior to others by using the Bible and this is the first time anyone told him he's wrong even in his own beliefs.
Yeah, Jesus would be having a field day calling out all of us reprobates warning us of coming Judgement. Jesus loves us all more than anyone in the universe. Jesus is righteous love. I pray Jesus will keep me close even though I’m an undeserving begging lowly sinner.
wouldve been funny but i think he was trying to be nice and convert the guy to more rational thinking and made a deliberate decision to not totally humiliate and destroy him. it sounded like they were gonna continue some discussion in private
@@consumer1073That's exactly what he is doing this guy is too soft hearted to just tell him raw truth. It wouldn't change anything just break him and likely make him worse.
This is why church leadership is so important. Hopefully this confused young man learned a lot from Andrew today. He’s formed his opinions based on our worldly culture not biblical doctrine.
He’s just showing you guys your own worldview, or are u just posing as being Christian? Not this comment section specifically, but most of this dudes fans eat up his justification for enabling people behavior that he doesn’t agree with. People don’t act the way these guys do when actually trying to understand and change someone’s mind. This podcast suffers from the same old ass lie that hundreds of other content creators do/ it’s what they tell themselves to justify whatever can “bring the content” lol
I’m not new to Christianity nor posing as one. I understand worldview is being shown and I understand debate as well. This man opposite Andrew has one healthy factor and that is when he seen the whole of issue was humbled enough to concede to it. Personally there should never be a debate amongst believers in Christ let alone on a podcast of thousands. My opinion thou. Law to proud grace to humble, these females need to break most may say it but as I’ve experienced none that I ever seen on here are willing to break yet
Andrew did an incredible job in this debate. I have never seen someone to be shown wrong on every single point he levied at Andrew and the show. Impressive!
My family has been Baptist all my life. I called myself an atheist for a decade. Only now do i recognize that such a thing doesn't exist. Only a rejection of Christ. I can see now why Andrew is saying all of American Orthodoxy comes from Protestantism. As peoples hearts search for the Holy Spirit, it inevitably leads to the closest thing we have on earth that is the family of God, his church. Hats off to Luke for keeping an open mind and sticking it out til the end. Even agreeing to go to an Orthodox Church with Andrew. I see my past self when i look at Luke, and every day i find myself steadily moving closer to Orthodoxy. Thank you Andrew (and Rachel of course).
Atheism is a foundation it is not an ideology. Yet the atheism itself is not a rejection of Christ, the same it is not rejection of the macaroni monster. In both cases atheism asks for proof and there is none.
This is the most conclusive and utter deconstruction, the complete destruction, no, absolute obliteration of a singular person I've ever witnessed. Wow!
Andrew is a warrior. You don't have to like the way in which he speaks, but you can't deny he speaks truth. He uses truth as a shield and his wit as his sword. He is consistently the most interesting guest on the podcast.
John the Baptist was the biblical equivalent. Jesus had different disciples and they all delivered the gospel in a different way. We are witnessing a more John the Baptist style. The modern world has people tricked into thinking being "polite" while spewing complete garbage is wisdom.
I remember being a kid, I did not care about shame at all. My generation was raise to resist/ignore peer pressure and I never out grew it. Going against the crowd you need to ignore shame.
This guys doesn’t want to follow up on what he believes all because he wants to be NICE. As a smart man said beware of the nice, meek man, they are the worst.
@@anacc3257this is why women are not in positions of authority in religion because the entire moral value system of women seems to just boil down to be nice to people so that they like you. Just cut the crap because you're niceness is just self-serving because it's just you not wanting to give it straight to people out of a fear that they will be upset and the reason you fear that is because it means they won't like you. You're prioritising your need to be liked over what needs to be done and that's what women are like and that's why everyone is making fun of this guy because he is acting like a woman
This guy would make it very hard for any non-religious person to consider converting. He’s the kind of guy to make any religion he’s a part of seem like a mindless cult
@@anacc3257 giga incorrect. This is how you get women to your side. Men with any amount of conviction or testosterone will immediately smell the weakness on you and keep their distance.
Luke thinks the women are Oliver twist "please sir I'd like to leave I am a weak and defenseless feminist who believes in women's autonomy and strength yet I can't muster the courage to stand and walk out the door without permission. I'm like Dawby from Harry Potter please sir give me a sock and set Dawby free"😂😂😂
Great discourse!!! These types of conversations are absolutely necessary in a time of divisiveness in the culture and in the global church! I love to see believers have tough and real conversations and ultimately unite around the concept of more-of-Him-less-of-us! Great job, dudes 👊🏼
Religion, god, jesus, the bible is disputable. They stole the characters in the bible including god and jesus and tweaked them from older myths, legends and stories.
🕘 Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
1:10 Introduction of Guests
2:10 The disagreements laid out❗
2:40 Humiliation on camera
6:00 The solution to humiliation
10:00 The autonomy of those who join
15:10 Taking advantage
19:20 The state of dating
22:10 Substances on the show
27:00 Discussing the length of the show
30:50 Alcohol on the set
32:20 Accountability for those on the podcast
33:10 Brixan weighs in on the alcohol issue
38:00 Superchats
40:50 Being Respectful
42:30 Cry-bullies and the Pit of Vipers
45:30 Entitlement
47:00 Using religion as a tool
53:40 Was she broken?
58:20 OnlyFans ramifications
1:02:30 Judgement and shaming
1:04:40 Wounded girls asking for validation
1:08:50 Admitting sin
1:14:20 Free will 🔥
1:18:40 When is the right time to shame?
1:21:00 Discipline vs. Shame
1:26:40 Andrew's discipline and shame from love
1:29:40 Acting like a Christian
1:33:50 Retracting the statements❗
1:40:30 Gripes with the bow
1:47:00 Is the bow meant to punish?
1:48:50 Market place value
1:50:50 Second guesses from a wife
1:54:50 The risk of offense and cognitive dissonance
1:58:30 Superchats
2:00:00 Commanding submission
2:03:20 Judgements from Christians
2:05:30 Taking people at their word
2:10:50 The death penalty
2:13:50 The cost and benefit of spreading God's word
2:20:10 Intent vs Impact
2:27:00 Whatever Chaos Roast
2:31:50 Closing statements❗
2:54:30 Outro
How did u get Todd flanders on
Andrew anti death penalty? Wow, that's shocking
😁
I'm embarrassed for this kid
When you've been a smug prick while you've destroyed their ideology, beliefs etc, you virtually guarantee they won't come to you for any help. I absolutely agree that these women need their views destroyed but a series of gotcha's might not be the best way to do this if you want them to be receptive to your message which should be Christ.
it's truly disturbing, how young men today act like women of yesterday and their girlfriends act like teenage boys. everything is so weird these days.
Social engineering
Weird, is a understatement, these days!
U sir.... summarized perfectly.
They ACT opposite , but women still wants men to addhere to their masculine roles and they want men to do what they say
and yet no one wants to discuss why that is because somehow it leads down some crazy conspiracy theory rabbit hole of being antisemitic.
He’s not doing it intentionally, but the idea of trying to get rid of shame is a very feminine ideal. Social shaming is probably the thing women are most afraid of, and the weapon they use against one another when fighting each other. Getting rid of shame is a very feminine value even though it’s an effective motivation to stop an action. Men are concerned about the action, women are concerned with how they feel. This kids got the right idea, he’s just got a feminine value centric perspective of the idea.
Oh women are absolutely not trying to get rid of shame. They’re trying to turn it into a technology that only serves them.
Women are masters of shaming, they master it before boys in young age.
Shame is problem only to feminists and potentially to young women in more traditional society.
It is intentional. He's a smug religious troll begging for attention to draw people to whatever social media he has to earn some dinero.
"getting rid of shame is a very feminine value" then how come jesus said “let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her”
Andrew: 1
Flanders: 0
Andrew gave him the diddly.
Flanders..... that's why that looks so familiar
You all never cease to put me stitches. Flanders. That's rich.
Don’t EVER compare the manlette to mr Flanders
The internet was created for comments just like this.
I've been an Andrew Wilson fan since I discovered Whatever and The Crucible about a year ago, and this might be one of my favorite debates of his of all time. It was nice to hear him bring about concrete points without being interrupted or sperged at a bunch of times. Just phenomenal!
Masterclass
5 minutes and the guy is back peddling against Andrew. Andrew W.
😁
Dude didn’t back pedal. You’re brainwashed man. Lol
This guy says to read the guests the Bible and is here to defend his OF girlfriend? What kind of liberal hell is going on
Yes! And as a Christian, let me just say- you can read the Bible to yourself and read it to others but just reading scripture without explanation, and understanding of the context does absolutely nothing for anyone 😂😂
So basically, he was completely wrong in all ways in this debate 😊😊
I think he likes pretending to be morally superior to others because he carries a bible and knows some verses. This kid is a narcissist claiming to be a follower of Christ.
I don't think his gf has OF
@@whynot5568 Like a vegan activist who became a vegan to stand out and attract attention by shouting at every corner.
Dudes girl is cheating on him while this plays in the background
Classic
While he is debating 😂
Omg it's sad but true 😂
No man with a mustache that bad should expect fidelity.
Which one was his gf
Angry boyfriend after the debate.... "I was taken advantage of" 😂😂😂
"He doesn't have a girlfriend. HE IS the girlfriend." 😂🤣😂🤣 Shoutout to *Moral Objection* in the chat...that caught me COMPLETELY off guard.
Timestamp sar 😢
I can't recall ever seeing someone literally lose EVERY SINGLE POINT...truly mind blowing...and his smirk never went away...wtf...
What??? It happens everytime Andrew is on the podcast. 😂😂😂 dudes without a doubt undefeated
@@hpprochargedtbssreminds me of little Ben Shapiro roasting …kids in college.
My gf at the time told me.....worst start to a point ever
And no one says “my girlfriend at the time” if they’re still dating them…
We all know why he said that, because it's not his girl, it's just his TURN.
This is a BA in communications... failed school system
😂 he's basically there to get her back
@@paulofaquinbig facts
This is the kind of guy you hear about that gets eaten by cannibals while quoting scripture in the jungle.
Pretty much.
And then say it was gods will if I get eaten.
How so?
@@vonleevl An ash...hole...
Luke's threshold for humiliation is very high...
I mean, just look and listen to him lol.
He must have a wire crossed in his brain. That smile looks genuine 😮
I bet I can guess his kink 😅😉
That's how beta males are taken advantage of.
Its so obvious he has a humiliation fetish.
“Can you use a different scenario” when that’s the literal situation
The funniest part is that guys written attacks of Andrew was an attempt to shame him publicly.
Nah, because he sent it only to Whatever, as criticism of Whatever.
3 minutes in and this dude's opening argument is essentially that the Brian and/or Andrew refused to concede their position for the adult women who came unprepared to a podcast. In other words, I know she is wrong, but you don't have to tell her.
Andrew is looking good and sharp in the crucible Sweat shirt !!
I went to there clothing link but apparently it's down for maintenance. So I will have to wait to get my Crucible merchandise
Finally something other than those stupid flannels
@@jaycichlid not-all-are-affluent-like-you
@@Fr4nkBl4ck well God dang, excuse me for trying a different shirt
Andrew always looks good 😋
It shows the maturity in the chat… this Luke guy was able to sit through all these rightful corrections by Andrew without becoming emotional, yeah , we don’t agree on our biblical views totally, but this is how a man should take correction. A wise man takes correction but a fool hates wisdom.
Lighten up man they're just trying to be funny
Agreed
Very true
This kid is cooked😂 literally immediately started losing from the first 5 minutes and never recovered
Yeah this guy started losing the debate off rip. Its actually hilarious. I wasnt expecting that.
I comented like 3 minutes in this guys cooked lmao
Andrew even got him to recant most of his arguments and I still have an hour left lmao
😂
😂
Please do more of these Andrew debating male liberal feminists.
So this guys solution is basically, just read them the Bible
ill just use Steven Crowder "change my mind" to discuss this.
when he talks to people, unless specifically asked, Steven NEVER discusses his biblical view on the topic. he talks about stats, science, data, ect. the reason is when people fundamentally disagree with religion, if you try to push back with religion, by quoting bible, they WILL shut down and you wont get anywhere.
this is the same. he would read them bible.........every single one of their brains would shut down and he would get know where cause they would instantly stop listening.
He’s a religious narcissist (or just narcissist) who has exhausted all other arguments against Andrew.
@@IronHaydenstop use false terms as narcissist.. he’s no narcissist, just a brainwashed woke dude.
@@sthlmsSouthdamn, you really gaslighted that strawman as fuck
@@belizetourism1218 wanna take another stab at forming a sentence?
Andrew Wilson growing white hair trying to help society in America! We need to appreciate it more and as fathers try to make a difference to our sons and daughters
if-he-keeps-this-up....by-50-he-will-be-gandalfish....but-with-light-sabber-staff..:)
Just another Andrew Wilson victory.
Took no prisioners
Just another religious zealot
Has he ever lost a debate lol
@@miami444 because he just debates weak people. I want to see him debating someone capable enough to at least push back accordingly.
@@andremonteiro1506 exactly and not only that he's a blatantly obvious narcissist and it's really hard to argue with any narcissist.
In my opinion, some of you are giving a hard time to a mustache guy. He is this or that but imho this was one of the best series all around. He does not interrupt, Andrew does not interrupt and the talk is really interesting when you compare it to the really crazy people that usually visit the show. A lot of good stuff from both sides. Nice and fair. Respectful. I enjoyed it.
He's not a bad guy he's just soft and well naive. I have no doubt that his heart is in the right place and that he has a good moral center.
Substances = apple sauce
Hahahahahahaha! I lost my breath laughing at this.
Oh no, a white claw
I hope it’s the squeezable pouch kind, too.
and spores
Caffeine is Joseph Smith's boi's kryptonite 😂
Emotional people who get humiliated do not typically want to learn from the one who humiliated them.
Bro is getting absolutely cooked 😂
That's what he came for😂
Let him cook
Basically. If guy on the right feels good after the conversation, it was a productive conversation, and vice versa.
"WHEN HELL FREEZES OVER, WE'LL FIGHT THEM ON THE ICE" - RFK JR
It’s annoying that he wouldn’t stop smiling
He thinks a smile can solve all the problems of the world. He’s going to have full mental breakdown in a few years.
Once he starts losing his hair and good looks, he’ll only see the face of a balding soy boy nothing-burger and go into depression 100%.
@christophermilroy5198 it's a nervous tick. It's very common.
It can also be a defense mechanism when being lectured or yelled at.
This went pretty well. The kid figured out what was up pretty quickly and didn't filibuster for a couple of hours unlike that chica from a few days ago.
Feeling shame is your own personal feelings. When Jesus told a woman at the well that she was sleeping around + the guy that she's sleeping with is not her husband. Did Jesus mean to shame her or did she just feel ashamed because he spoke the truth?
Walking out of the house with that mustache proves his "degree" taught him absolutely NOTHING
Even at a glance it seems to hide a crooked smug smile and the fact he talks out of both sides of his mouth.
Should've brought his girlfriend's other boyfriend, Tyronne, to tag team with
This guy stood no chance alone he's just the financial buxxer and servant
What do you even do with a communications degree…????
@@taylor15589Communicate? 😂😂
@@SOBIESKI_freedom …
I mean like what does it mean? Like is it any different than a person not even having a degree? Why is having a communications degree worth it??
This guy is alright. He seems like a genuine and honest human being. He's brave for coming on the podcast too, no matter how feminized and delusional he might be.
The problem of this "brave and honest" people is that they are causing harm to society by spreading this delusion and enabling more delusion in others.
Looks like a yes man to me. Absolutely no backbone and didnt even push back on one of Andrews points. I think Andrew could if gone up on the table and started pissing in his face and he would of said yes daddy I concede to your point
He is not alright, he represents weakness and cowardice. He is everything that all men should aspire *NOT* to be.
Atleast the kid isn’t completely delusional, he’s taking his lumps when he needs too.
This kids alright, amazing how accountable us men folk are after a bit of logical thrashing.
Is it delusional to simply believe in imaginary friends and fairytale books that have no evidence of them being true besides the mostly plagiarized made up fantasy book most haven't even read?
@@Jaker-904or maybe he’s just saving face if he took his lumps and moved on then sure but he would acknowledge he was wrong then immediately defend his point 😂 that’s not someone who is taking lumps he’s saving face
@@TonyFromFlorida I’d disagree, retracting your accusations and complaints is not “saving face” it’s admitting defeat. He then went on to ask for further resources in regards to scripture, then agreed to visit an Orthodox Church.
Conceding constantly while smirking is a typical postmodernist tactic. They don't actually concede, they just say it and laugh.
Andrew won this debate within the first 10 minutes, Luke got scalped.
Around the 20 minute mark he just concedes the debate pretty much.
Andrew is a brute hahaha. He’s undefeated.
Haz smoked andrew
@@AuburnKidMan😂 nah bro. Nah.
I didn’t think I could like Andrew anymore, and then this gem comes out! This needs to on the debate university course.
Declining testosterone & masculinity is a serious problem in this country. The old pioneers, frontiersmen and cowboys would just laugh at these young dudes today
No kidding. 😂😂😂
It's not our fault, we were abandoned by our culture and fathers. Half of us grew up with single mothers, poisons that reduce testosterone, and technology exposed us to p*rn at 9. This generation of men is the most persecuted, attacked, and feminized generation of men in the history of the world. And on top of all of that we are also stuck with modern women.
They would laugh at you too
@@davef.5131 Not as much, as many of us guys that live out in the sticks still often hunt, fish, have gardens, do manual labor, spend time outdoors and aren’t corrupted by liberalism & feminism BS
I'm not even one of those guys, and I'm not laughing... this is straight up terrifying.
When dude disavowed shame.. I wanted to ask him... When someone sucker punches an innocent person, is the person who says "you should be ashamed of yourself" wrong? lmao
Real life Ned Flanders has been found.
Best comment lol
Dude said he can't judge someone's heart. 5 seconds later he said you shall know them by their fruits. Walking contradiction.
why do some men talk like women? he keeps saying "like" and i "feel" like and i "felt", and its on a rotation...... single mom perhaps?
Do you really have to ask that question? With the all the feminist propaganda for decades and our gynocentric society? Really?
Without a doubt having no male role model in his life enough to make a significant impact in his life. A.k.a single or two mother house hold. Period.
29:14 Apologizes to Andrew and Brian
30:01 Admits to being lost
This went so badly for him
This episode is like those COD MW2 days where you wrecked someone in a match, and then they are arrogant enough to call you out on a 1v1, only to get wrecked again 😂😂
W
W
I've lost many a 1v1 that way... never learned my lesson though. I'm still the king!
Times were so much simpler back then.
That was one of the best games of all time
He keeps saying "week night" like its a "school night" 😂😂😂
His smile after he talks or he thinks he’s say something predominant to his statement give me the ick 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
"Say it in a demonic voice"
it gives me the ick...😂
I think that is because of his moustache
@@scifinerd1911 okay this made me laugh after I did the voice 😂😂
I hope smugness is a sin. Can't stand that smug look on his face after everything he says
Your not 14 use real words, your right but be better.
Shaming isn’t something you can do to another person. Shame is what you feel when you know you were wrong and are being judged by others.
Persecution is something you can do to another person.
this guy was smirking at times & i don’t know if he was nervous or being condescending & sarcastic with his body language.
Definitely nervous. Any one of us would be, honestly. He's not a bad kid. Just probably gone most of this life giving the safe responses like "just trust Jesus" because that's how he was brought up without deeply studying scripture.
You can see the wheels turning in his head as the debate went on, and he agreed to go to an Orthodox Church. That's progress.
anxiety
Nervous, Anxious.
But referring to his name over and over again to belittle him wasn't condescending?
He grew that mustache to hide his sardonic grin. He is also dating Nicolette and "dating her at the time of the podcast." 😂 One of his points was breaking down non-believers worldview.
Respect to this guy for coming on
Guy needs to lose the mustache. Not working for him
I like this show way better when Brian doesn't talk
It's a 100% better without having to hear Brian's corny singing, mood swings, rambling, interrupting etc.
Don’t forget about the shitty sound board.
Absolutely
Brian is the worst part of this podcast.
Flanders is a Nice guy with his heart in the right place…. But DAMN! He got SMOKED!
I think he enjoys attempting to be morally superior to others by using the Bible and this is the first time anyone told him he's wrong even in his own beliefs.
Road to hell is paved with good intentions. I can say I don't know his heart deep down. But something doesn't sit right with me regarding this dude
Luke suffers from Sentimentalism. He thinks he cares more than Jesus.
Yeah, Jesus would be having a field day calling out all of us reprobates warning us of coming Judgement.
Jesus loves us all more than anyone in the universe.
Jesus is righteous love.
I pray Jesus will keep me close even though I’m an undeserving begging lowly sinner.
@@xman666soad Jesus shows his love by redeeming sinners.
@@xman666soad Why do you have 666 in your name?
@@christianriddler5063he’s trolling bro
Andrew should have asked him if he is OK with female ministers and their churches
100%
wouldve been funny but i think he was trying to be nice and convert the guy to more rational thinking and made a deliberate decision to not totally humiliate and destroy him. it sounded like they were gonna continue some discussion in private
@@consumer1073That's exactly what he is doing this guy is too soft hearted to just tell him raw truth. It wouldn't change anything just break him and likely make him worse.
This is why church leadership is so important. Hopefully this confused young man learned a lot from Andrew today. He’s formed his opinions based on our worldly culture not biblical doctrine.
Amen. He's so worldly, but he doesn't realize it. He needs to get deeper into his faith and less into the feelings of the world
This guy is so new to Christianity
Personally, I think he's new to "conversation." 🙄
Very new. A woke Bible thumper. This is not the way my guy.
He’s just showing you guys your own worldview, or are u just posing as being Christian? Not this comment section specifically, but most of this dudes fans eat up his justification for enabling people behavior that he doesn’t agree with. People don’t act the way these guys do when actually trying to understand and change someone’s mind. This podcast suffers from the same old ass lie that hundreds of other content creators do/ it’s what they tell themselves to justify whatever can “bring the content” lol
I’m not new to Christianity nor posing as one. I understand worldview is being shown and I understand debate as well. This man opposite Andrew has one healthy factor and that is when he seen the whole of issue was humbled enough to concede to it. Personally there should never be a debate amongst believers in Christ let alone on a podcast of thousands. My opinion thou. Law to proud grace to humble, these females need to break most may say it but as I’ve experienced none that I ever seen on here are willing to break yet
Really pleased that the moustache guy listened without interrupting and was willing to retract part of his statements etc
Thank you Brian and Andrew for continuing to bring awesome content!
Andrew did an incredible job in this debate. I have never seen someone to be shown wrong on every single point he levied at Andrew and the show. Impressive!
Never been shown? Or never conceded to all points? That's different.
@@Grievance_Studies_Affair_2018 concede. More exactly yes.
The first 30 seconds of him talking I immediately new who he’s voting for 😂
Is that kid's mustache crooked? 😆
1970s Blue Oyster Bar style...
Bent
@@NORTAH85happy Gilmore lol
100%, and his eyes look as dead as his brain has become
Hard to tell with that permanent creepy smile hes got on...
Indeed it is…
The cornstash told me exactly how this was going to go
My family has been Baptist all my life. I called myself an atheist for a decade. Only now do i recognize that such a thing doesn't exist. Only a rejection of Christ.
I can see now why Andrew is saying all of American Orthodoxy comes from Protestantism. As peoples hearts search for the Holy Spirit, it inevitably leads to the closest thing we have on earth that is the family of God, his church.
Hats off to Luke for keeping an open mind and sticking it out til the end. Even agreeing to go to an Orthodox Church with Andrew. I see my past self when i look at Luke, and every day i find myself steadily moving closer to Orthodoxy. Thank you Andrew (and Rachel of course).
Atheism is a foundation it is not an ideology. Yet the atheism itself is not a rejection of Christ, the same it is not rejection of the macaroni monster. In both cases atheism asks for proof and there is none.
This is the most conclusive and utter deconstruction, the complete destruction, no, absolute obliteration of a singular person I've ever witnessed. Wow!
Spongebob with the seaweed mustache lol
"NOW THAT WERE MENNNN!"
Hey Mr. Wiiiiillllsssoooon
😂😂
I couldn’t resist
Andrew is wicked!! Love him🤘🏽
@@NORTAH85 I couldn’t resist 😂
@@KaktusLady watch-out-for-old-karens...they-will-pinch-the-chicks-with-a-passion!...:)))
Andrew is a warrior. You don't have to like the way in which he speaks, but you can't deny he speaks truth. He uses truth as a shield and his wit as his sword. He is consistently the most interesting guest on the podcast.
John the Baptist was the biblical equivalent. Jesus had different disciples and they all delivered the gospel in a different way. We are witnessing a more John the Baptist style.
The modern world has people tricked into thinking being "polite" while spewing complete garbage is wisdom.
Luke's cheeks must be hurting from holding up that fake smile for so long. Ouch.
My thoughts exactly
This was a really good back and forth conversation. Good job guys! 👍🏼
Stinging caterpillar on his lip ...
Is hilarious 😂😆
6 mins in and the debate is already actually over.
It's a lecture. Not a bad one either.
I remember being a kid, I did not care about shame at all. My generation was raise to resist/ignore peer pressure and I never out grew it.
Going against the crowd you need to ignore shame.
Andrew’s impression of Brian’s “Boys, I think it’s bugged!” (Insert Swedish accent) made me laugh 😂
Help *madys voice
Timestamp
@@8YoHoJo it’s towards the end of the stream I think. During the roast session but I’ll find you a timestamp later
Bro's moustache 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This guys doesn’t want to follow up on what he believes all because he wants to be NICE. As a smart man said beware of the nice, meek man, they are the worst.
Better than being a bully. If your worldview involves shaming people for being nice and cordial, maybe consider that you're on the wrong path.
@@anacc3257 Only someone who has led the most sheltered life will say something this stupid. Unfortunately that's a lot of people today.
@@anacc3257this is why women are not in positions of authority in religion because the entire moral value system of women seems to just boil down to be nice to people so that they like you. Just cut the crap because you're niceness is just self-serving because it's just you not wanting to give it straight to people out of a fear that they will be upset and the reason you fear that is because it means they won't like you. You're prioritising your need to be liked over what needs to be done and that's what women are like and that's why everyone is making fun of this guy because he is acting like a woman
He begins to argue then immediately concedes.
I think he just has the wherewithal to admit he's wrong.
That's a good thing.
I just can't comprehend how can there be men like this Flanders guy. I just can't fathom it
Missed opportunity for Andrew to explain that you have to destroy the golden calf before you present the law
This guy would make it very hard for any non-religious person to consider converting. He’s the kind of guy to make any religion he’s a part of seem like a mindless cult
Which guy, Andrew or Luke? I assume you mean Luke.
@@Viruz32 no you (yes luke)
It's literally the opposite. He's not as rude or judgemental as the other guy. That's how you convince people to join your side.
Yup. Makes them look like weak fools. Possibly the last person anyone would follow
@@anacc3257 giga incorrect. This is how you get women to your side. Men with any amount of conviction or testosterone will immediately smell the weakness on you and keep their distance.
Another facts versus feelings conversation.
So exciting to wake up in South Africa to debate from the Whatever Podcast 💖
Me watching from Kurdistan
Me watching from Kaliforniastan
I'm a simple man I see Andrew has a long form debate show I click
13 mins in and Andrew has already destroyed this dude
@@georgerockwellll6143 it was barely 5 mins until he destroyed him
Nope. 3 minutes
The kind of guy who respects his girlfriend’s right to cheat on him 😂
You must respect their right to cheat and they must respect your right to throw them out. There, mutual respect.
This is pretty hilarious to watch
He actually pulled of the Goose Jr. stache more than the Goose Sr. stache 😂
I've been listening to this on a headset for the first quarter. I just saw his stash Ah HAHAHA!
This is the calmest, most reasonable, and rational episode I've ever seen.
The first 5 minutes had me CRYING 🤣
Luke thinks the women are Oliver twist "please sir I'd like to leave I am a weak and defenseless feminist who believes in women's autonomy and strength yet I can't muster the courage to stand and walk out the door without permission. I'm like Dawby from Harry Potter please sir give me a sock and set Dawby free"😂😂😂
Oh soy this is going to be fun.
Thisbis just 3 hours of someone being schooled... fml
this poor guy lol
it's crazy to me that young men like this, who are fresh out of college, think they can debate someone like Andrew. College is a delusion factory.
Great discourse!!! These types of conversations are absolutely necessary in a time of divisiveness in the culture and in the global church! I love to see believers have tough and real conversations and ultimately unite around the concept of more-of-Him-less-of-us! Great job, dudes 👊🏼
Man, Andrew has me going back to christ. It's hard to dispute what he says.
Religion, god, jesus, the bible is disputable. They stole the characters in the bible including god and jesus and tweaked them from older myths, legends and stories.
@@Oliver-Closeofffalse.
@@Oliver-Closeofflol what a wild truth claim.
@@jacklaurentius6130fact lol
@jonathansong855 the Bible is a wild truth claim wtf?
Andrew had already completed the debate half way through lol
“Was that the one I called a gunt?”hahahahahaha
I am still convinced this kid Luke was smiling creepy like this because he was falling in love with Andrew 😂😂😂😂
Doubt it. That's a sh! T eating grin.
He came on the podcast in good faith. Rarely seen on the Whatever podcast.