It was dope to see Bone Thugs, Do Or Die, Twista and Crucial Conflict all make hits in the same era. It might not have been a big deal to everyone, but for someone in the Midwest it was nice to see the region prosper
@@midwestdamu483 facts! MC Breed, The Dayton Family, Slum Village, Top Authority, and so many more. I feel like everyone’s Hip-Hop history has been documented to death… except ours
Can't believe you completely ignore Do or Die when talking about Chicago style. Anybody who lived there in the 90s can tell you about Johnny P's singing coming from every second car. Do or Die and PsychoDrama is Chicago sounds. Psychodrama is criminally underrated in my opinion, but they big in the hood back in the day
It was so much great shit out at the time, and great music steadily coming alot of it gets ignored. I don't know how much of a historian u are, but I'd like your opinion on this theory I have. The Sept 11 attacks which happened in 01 combined by the rise of Napster and the internet pretty much killed ALOT of careers. For example. Hot Boy Turk. His album young and thuggin was 🔥🔥, but it came out in 2001 so I don't think it got the attention it should have. By the time music starts to kinda stir again we find ourselves in 2003, the era of 50, Ja, Pretty Ricky, Field Mob, Lil Jon, Ying Yang...then came the era of Lil Wayne which slid us directly into the Drake era and so on til we got here. Pretty interesting to me!
@@christopherrobinson1219 I could see that being a possibility. I was 9 when 9/11 happened and I wasn’t in the position to make music purchasing decisions around then. But I’ll tell you what I think really killed album sales/careers: cd burners and their widespread availability during the 2000s + file sharing. I only owned about 4-5 purchased albums throughout the 2000s and the rest were pirated. Limewire, Napster, megaupload, forums etc. killed the music sales.
Their first 2 albums are classics. These brothers were active VL and making music at the same time. They featured on soundtracks throught the late 90's and were platinum selling artist. Bad contracts messed them up. CC will always be remembered for originality and gritty street tales... Gone but never forgotten.
Chicago has always had a sound, Its levels to the Chi with everything.House music is a Chicago sound and style that started here and went Global & to this day still bumps and has a large fan base they call it EDM music now. Stepping Music and style of dance is another sound Chicago is known for. Chicago had a hip hop scene and sound before Crucial Conflict and after even if those outside our City and Midwest didn't not in the know about it joe. Legendary trackster, EC.illa Da smart, pyscho drama and others. Crucial conflict had more then one hit record bro. We lacked a major record label here to sign the talent. plus the industry did not want any parts of the organized Mob figures that came from our city back then
I do agree they didn't follow up to the level of Hay - but Scummy was definitely a track that had potential. The song that should have pushed for a single should have been Ghetto Queen with R. Kelly. Especially since it came out the same year as Kelly's R album. There aesthetic was unique, but considering Three 6 mafia were basically "demon" driven, and adjusted the style appropriately - I'd argue a great deal of CC's stunted growth boils down to a lack of management, creative assistance in their direction and adjusting.
Their first album had 3 singles and videos. Their second album definitely needed more than scummy and I agree with ghetto queen being a single. I feel like they should’ve had solo albums in 1997
@@twongreen9968 no marketing in the world was going to make them platinum artist, they had a great team they was everywhere in 1996 they was on the belly soundtrack and rhyme of reason soundtrack Their team did what they could and the album went gold. They should’ve just kept doing their thing
"I'm Bout To Explode" is one of my favourite songs I have ever heard in my life!!! Thank you for speaking on Crucial Conflict!!! I randomly met Cold Hard in Manhattan, NY while i was walking down the street...he was really cool...
"Look at your honor my life was full of broken, had to hussle on the corner selling crack to the friends, dope slanger gang banger shit had to be........ "
I met Cold Hard in Hyde park at the African Festival. He took a pic with me and my girl. He a cool ass nigga! CC had their own lane! I’ll always respect them niggas. They are SO UNDERRATED
I used to have the cassette single for "Hay" back in the day. It was a banger, but I never heard any of their other songs because no one I knew bought the album. Not being tied to a bigger artist probably hurt them more than anything. Bone were with Eazy E and Do or Die were on Scarface's label, so they were able to gain more of a foothold outside the midwest. Twista also benefitted from making his appearance on "Po Pimp."
A whole lotta preteen memories with these guys. They came during the time that the Bulls 2nd dynasty. They still dropped heat on the underground circuit for years and enjoy legend status in the city to this day and are still touring. 💯
@@ismoketrack Honestly CC is over in my eyes. Did you also know that Wild style, one of the members (also the producer of all the albums and is the creator of the group) announced last year that he is no longer a member of CC? They haven't released anything in years and haven't made a single attempt to put out another album.
That Hey song with that Funkadelic sample is a massive classic. I recall they were in the movie Belly. They were Rico's Crew in Nebraska (filmed in New Jersey) and one of they're songs was playing in the strip club scene.
Same here. I got the single cassette from this place called Music land at Evergreen Plaza on the Southside. There was a remix of the single too as I remember.
I grew up listening to these dudes! That first album was a everyday part of my life! I'm from the south but I connected right away to Crucial's country style! I listened to that tape so much it got dull and didn't play clear no more! Damn! I'm old! How many of y'all can still remember when all music was on cassette tapes? The new generation don't know nothing about tapes!
From NYC, and was definitely a big Do or Die fan… The only thing that they had in common was they rapped fast… Other than that, their subject matter was totally different… Always thought they might have been bigger if they were on a different label… Rap a Lot was horrible at promoting anything outside of TX
Now that these dudes have matured, them, Bone, Twista, and Do Or Die can put a tour together and and make a lot of money. If they are all smart, they can make a collaboration together to feed their families. People will still pay to see them perform because they bring back memories for lots of people. Same thing for Mo Thugs
I’m from Chicago I approve this. What makes Chicago unique and different is that it’s like the North meets the South. Northern vibes but with a Southern twang. Different than Detroit and definitely different than New York
@@masterme550 Southside WestSide. Northside is tourism. Black Chicago always has that mix of northern and southern blood. It’s not New York, Philly, but it’s not so Atlanta or Texas. Midwest in general is really mix of both. Large major cities but laidback vibe.
@@kalimol9397 exactly it is. Chicago is such a big city but it’s laidback, it’s not a city that never sleeps like New York. Downtown for a long time was just for work area but now they are changing the landscape of the city. Chicago really and forever will be a blue collar city unlike what they are trying renovate
@@jameshooper1382 *Just an inside tip… Kanye told me this himself.. listen to the drum programming on CC ‘Showdown’ & then listen the the drum programming on ‘Slow Jamz’… LOL… identical. Kanye confessed it.*
I was in high school when this came out. Omg. We took a trip to Atlanta (with a computer club i was in) and went to a party (in a barn converted into a party hall) and they played this song!!! Good times! 🎉🎉🎉
I was signed too Rawdope rec, alittle after Crucial Conflict, I am from the group MFD,(Marked foe death ) We are on the second Album : goodside badside & credited on & appeared on two songs, " raw dope anthem " & the song " back against the wall " & young guns is also a diss to BTNH, I was around with my group in most of the early C.C work, The final tic album & alittle of the Good side badside album in wich the entire Rawdope family was on.. they never took a ten year break, where u getting your info from?
This dude has no credibility at all… I know 1st hand a lot of stuff with The ‘Flict & this video ain’t it… I mean these dudes are a ‘one hit wonder’ yet are playing Lollapalooza right now??? LMAOOOOOOOO.
Brother, across the freakin' nation, ppl lose their minds on that track. That's what they aren't talking about. CC was that camp. Damn platinum status and all that industry BS. CC had mad love across the 🌎. Their record deal is what killed the group. It's what does it all the time. CC should have gone independent. It was a term that was practically unheard of back in the day. However, today, independent is the new FREEDOM!
I cap you not, I was just telling my brother days ago, he being the one to put me on Crucial Conflict, that I haven't seen one video on TH-cam about their career. Thank You
Bone Thugs is what really stunted their growth. They couldn't compete with Bone Thugs when it came to making hits. Bone Thugs are the peak and standard of fast rap mixed with harmony. Shout out to Crucial Conflict for giving it their best tho.
Coming up as an artist from K-town in that era of music. You touched on some great points. Chicago artist fell victim to the cutthroat mentality of the music business and gang culture colliding. This was so new to Chicago, it took many years later for us to get our piece of the pie.
You know what?! When you’re in the hood and you couldn’t afford cable back then, some musicians you had no idea what they looked like. Nowadays, people have access to the internet. They have cell phones. And cable is more affordable than it was back then. So now you can see who that person is
The second album to me was there best work because it had so many hits on it with great features. Don’t believe me, listen to a song from that album called airplanes featuring do or die. It went really hard but due to lack of promotion and no real released singles it went under the radar. I remember when I went to my homeboy crib and saw it sitting on his dresser. I was like “is this a new crucial conflict album?” That is literally the only reason I even found out about it. This was back in the 90’s so if you didn’t have heavy magazine and television promotion you just couldn’t get the word out about your project. But crucial conflict good side bad side album is still on of my top five favorite albums today. Thanks for taking the time to read all this.
You the 3rd chicago person that's said that,something I didn't agree with was ,he was calling crucial conflict, southern acting ,as if they weren't chicago guys,and chicago rap,but I have to agree they're different from others, matter fact common,kayne west,da brat,Twista, I can't think of no one in chicago that reminds me of crucial conflict, that Crunk style, fast rapping ,gangsta rap,they were like bone mixed with memphis style, common sound like new York rap kayne west too,but the new school rap, chicago has its own style now,drill music
I like the way you break down artists on your stunted growth, you use facts, logic, and an intelligent analysis that you can't help but agree with 98% of the time.
PsychoDrama, Crucial Conflict, Do Or Die, Bennie Franks, Traxster, Twista, Turtle Banxx, High Beam, Ms. Kane, Toya, Common Sense.. Chicago has some thumpers in the game. I love the Chicago sound.
Ok. Now you posting on a group I havent heard in a minute!!! Totally support this channel. I thought the HAY song would be the next sound of Chicago in the 90s but it didnt go that way. That HAY song was big!!!!
Tela would be a good one. Even though he's a Texas/ down south artist, he was always very popular here in the DMV area. Rap-a-lot as a whole was always popular here
@Free State Of Grizzy honestly southern music was always very big here. I think it was a rebellion to New York music. A lot of people here would not listen to artists from NY
I loved their 1st 2 albums … where I’m from people claim to like them but only knew radio songs … I was happy wen they collabed with my favorite group 666 Mafia in 1998 … Good Side Bad Side is classic as well as Final Tic
To whoever made this video, good job on this. Also I’d like to point out that aside from their song Hay, the song Scummy from their second album is worthy of being mentioned. I’m sure alot of people besides me was jammin to it.
I grew up listening to Crucial Conflict, Twista and Do or Die back in the 90's when I was little I'm also from the Westside of Chicago too and back in the day on the Westside we were bumping their music a lot
At the time when "The final tic(96)" came out I was in my late teens. Of course the song "Hay" slaps HARD!! I loved the video and then a few months later I bought the album. I have all of their albums except their compilations! Imo their first 2 are my favorites 👍! Their 93 ep " Crucial times" I actually have. They were on most songs on that consciousness vibe 🪨! It was pretty good for them being so young. Glad that they're still around doing music! If they're planning on doing an album in the future I'm definitely getting it!
I'm from the Land and bone did have a big affect on Crucial Conflict but a lot of us still banged their album. I still play their 1st album. Beginning to End.
Crucial Conflict had a southern country vibe, but understandable seeing they like most folks (in their case, Peoples) from Chicago have Alabama, Mississippi & Tennessee roots.
Man we were proud of cc in cleveland beef was probaly more hype could have put entire region on but it looks like drill will be chi towns claum to fame no one else can take credit for
In the late 80's (88-90) we fought hard to establish a chicago rap scene but at the time most of the local dj's were only doing house music, our radio personalities treated rap like a weekend one hour annoyance, we had a label here called DJ INTERNATIONAL that sponsored battles between house artists and rap artists we won but to no avail house music is still king here and the original members of crucial conflict were very young back then.
*Crucial Conflict* (Coldhard, Never, Q-Ball & Wildstyle), *Ditryboyz/Dirty* (Big Pimp & Mr. Gangsta) and *Field Mob* (Shawn Jay & Smoke) should definitely form a supergroup and make a couple of albums.
He said a lot in that opening scene. He was making lite of something deeper! You see all their demeanors while he was talking. Ain’t no stunted growth, they wanted to keep they cheeks closed 😮
I was born in in November 96. Born and raised in Chicago💚 I was listening the final Tic Before I got here and till this day I still listen to that album while I’m cleaning my home or when I get in my feelings about my father that passed a few years ago . One of my favorite albums 🥰
I don't feel they were one hit wonders. Maybe it was because I was local but "Ride the Rodeo" almost got as much play as "Hay" from what I remember here in Chicago. Maybe it was just me and my friends
I was 11 years old when I came home from school and seen the video for hay on rap city for the first time those where the good ol days and I still listen to them til this day
Chi always had that South twang with a northern swag. Midwest don't get that appreciation in the game like the other 3 regions, but the "middle" always blow hard when it's our turn
Because we in the middle we get exposed to everything ,historically Chicago hip hop has all types of styles from soulful to lyrical to gangster to now drill...the south side and the west are like two different cities in one with 2 similar yet different cultures and our music reflect that ..thats why we can have a common/lupe /chance/ye and also a twista/do or die /psychodrama now rooga,von,duck etc
Did Chicago ever find their "sound"? I'd hate to say drill is Chicago's sound, but... It ain't Kanye West, Common, Chance, or Lupe.
Do or Die, Twista, Psycho Drama. That's Chicago sound.
Jaguar Wright
TLC
@@romanpistryak6070 you right!! I still listen to all that. but why he say can't be lupe?
that dude Payroll
It was dope to see Bone Thugs, Do Or Die, Twista and Crucial Conflict all make hits in the same era. It might not have been a big deal to everyone, but for someone in the Midwest it was nice to see the region prosper
It was everything.
The Midwest had some of the most underrated talent
@@midwestdamu483 facts! MC Breed, The Dayton Family, Slum Village, Top Authority, and so many more. I feel like everyone’s Hip-Hop history has been documented to death… except ours
Don’t forget about DFC
@@taylormade538 DFC’s “Things In My Hood” remix is a classic!
Can't believe you completely ignore Do or Die when talking about Chicago style. Anybody who lived there in the 90s can tell you about Johnny P's singing coming from every second car. Do or Die and PsychoDrama is Chicago sounds. Psychodrama is criminally underrated in my opinion, but they big in the hood back in the day
In the words of Buk... Too much for the Industry to handle
Po Pimpin!!! That album went hard, I think the fact that they was signed to RapALot made people forget they was from Chi
Psychodrama!!!!!!! Magic, no love, do what you gotta do alllll slap!!!
Can't 4get about the Speed Knot Mobsters, Triple Darkness, Darkside Ballaz and COG
@@twin78 and snypaz
That first album is a classic
YUP!
Love their first album!!
so is the 2nd
@@hsaitoh9790. I don't know about that.
Str8 BANGER
Mega underrated group. Great lyrics by all members and production by Wildstyle was top notch.
It was so much great shit out at the time, and great music steadily coming alot of it gets ignored. I don't know how much of a historian u are, but I'd like your opinion on this theory I have. The Sept 11 attacks which happened in 01 combined by the rise of Napster and the internet pretty much killed ALOT of careers. For example. Hot Boy Turk. His album young and thuggin was 🔥🔥, but it came out in 2001 so I don't think it got the attention it should have. By the time music starts to kinda stir again we find ourselves in 2003, the era of 50, Ja, Pretty Ricky, Field Mob, Lil Jon, Ying Yang...then came the era of Lil Wayne which slid us directly into the Drake era and so on til we got here. Pretty interesting to me!
@@christopherrobinson1219 I could see that being a possibility. I was 9 when 9/11 happened and I wasn’t in the position to make music purchasing decisions around then. But I’ll tell you what I think really killed album sales/careers: cd burners and their widespread availability during the 2000s + file sharing. I only owned about 4-5 purchased albums throughout the 2000s and the rest were pirated. Limewire, Napster, megaupload, forums etc. killed the music sales.
Yes!!! Wildstyle is an incredible producer!!!
Never underrated
Man these guys had us jumpin to their music in the chi. Ride the rodeo was so playa. And these guys were actual vice lords
I still have HAY and RODEO in my playlist the nineties will never fade‼️
That second crucial conflict CD was hard I still be bumping to this day
Good side,Bad side best album..they gangbanged hard asl on that one.lol
Their feature on Ghetto Queen was dope too
Classic song.
I agree I still have that R Kelly double CD and that's the most memorable song on there to me
@Peanut's Playpin Gaming it’s on the R. Album by Kelly featuring CC. m.th-cam.com/video/5yOG5ZfS_XA/w-d-xo.html
Their first 2 albums are classics. These brothers were active VL and making music at the same time. They featured on soundtracks throught the late 90's and were platinum selling artist. Bad contracts messed them up. CC will always be remembered for originality and gritty street tales... Gone but never forgotten.
FACTS!!
Crucial conflict is severely underrated this group should’ve been a mega stars
Bone, twista, do or die, mo thugs, crucial conflict. Great moment in hiphop history that barely gets mentioned in hiphop documentaries.
💯
One hit, that entire first album was 🔥!!!! He has no idea how hot that album was att the time.
Crucial Conflict will always be my most favorite rap group ever..from the begging until now..hands down
Man I still bump both albums to this day
Planet crucon was dope 2
Me too
Backstabbers..was my hit
Yup miss having the cds different feeling 🤣 from looking it up online.
Chicago has always had a sound, Its levels to the Chi with everything.House music is a Chicago sound and style that started here and went Global & to this day still bumps and has a large fan base they call it EDM music now. Stepping Music and style of dance is another sound Chicago is known for. Chicago had a hip hop scene and sound before Crucial Conflict and after even if those outside our City and Midwest didn't not in the know about it joe. Legendary trackster, EC.illa Da smart, pyscho drama and others. Crucial conflict had more then one hit record bro. We lacked a major record label here to sign the talent. plus the industry did not want any parts of the organized Mob figures that came from our city back then
Im from cleveland oh and was always proud of chi town talent repping the region much respect for the info
I do agree they didn't follow up to the level of Hay - but Scummy was definitely a track that had potential. The song that should have pushed for a single should have been Ghetto Queen with R. Kelly. Especially since it came out the same year as Kelly's R album. There aesthetic was unique, but considering Three 6 mafia were basically "demon" driven, and adjusted the style appropriately - I'd argue a great deal of CC's stunted growth boils down to a lack of management, creative assistance in their direction and adjusting.
I thought " scummy" was just as good as " hay" and the 2nd cd had 18 tracks and was hard hitting 🤔 ,they really had their own style
Their first album had 3 singles and videos. Their second album definitely needed more than scummy and I agree with ghetto queen being a single. I feel like they should’ve had solo albums in 1997
@@sidneywilder2731 I’m bout to explode was my favorite song
That's factz crucial conflict was not marketed right
@@twongreen9968 no marketing in the world was going to make them platinum artist, they had a great team they was everywhere in 1996 they was on the belly soundtrack and rhyme of reason soundtrack
Their team did what they could and the album went gold. They should’ve just kept doing their thing
"I'm Bout To Explode" is one of my favourite songs I have ever heard in my life!!!
Thank you for speaking on Crucial Conflict!!!
I randomly met Cold Hard in Manhattan, NY while i was walking down the street...he was really cool...
My fave song on good side Bad side
@@SURLY_BOO
Oh wow, for real?
@@fedoramcclaren4294 evertime I Play that album, I have 2 let this 1 go maybe 5 or 6 times
@@SURLY_BOO
I can't be mad at that one bit!!!
@@fedoramcclaren4294 Faceless Ones was a cut too.
THESE DUDES SHOULD'VE BLOWN UP!! SO UNDERRATED
Yep, they record label at the time didn't do right by promoting them more
@@martrellnelson7869
That Good Side Bad Side album,maaaan!! Put it on and let it roll!! Every song is a banger,crazy!!
@@grandchamp7783 yep💯🔥
"Tell it to The judge" kilo's verse Always hits me 💯💯🔥🔥
"Look at your honor my life was full of broken, had to hussle on the corner selling crack to the friends, dope slanger gang banger shit had to be........ "
Yup that whole song hit, all the albums were deep.
“My connect was the government they GAVE me the job”
I met Cold Hard in Hyde park at the African Festival. He took a pic with me and my girl. He a cool ass nigga! CC had their own lane! I’ll always respect them niggas. They are SO UNDERRATED
As a Chicagoan i appreciate you doing this 💪🏾
I’m Westside Chi all day jo, but these comments on here ticking me off.
Dial 1-900-I'm off my square
I used to have the cassette single for "Hay" back in the day. It was a banger, but I never heard any of their other songs because no one I knew bought the album. Not being tied to a bigger artist probably hurt them more than anything. Bone were with Eazy E and Do or Die were on Scarface's label, so they were able to gain more of a foothold outside the midwest. Twista also benefitted from making his appearance on "Po Pimp."
A whole lotta preteen memories with these guys. They came during the time that the Bulls 2nd dynasty. They still dropped heat on the underground circuit for years and enjoy legend status in the city to this day and are still touring. 💯
One of my favorite groups that never got the success they deserved. I still occasionally bump them to this day.
Traxster & No I.D. was the sound of Chicago back in the day. Matter fact, go back and listen to Common's Resurrection album!
They sleep on Trax...
@@39Aces Little do they know..
“One day it’ll all make sense”’ had some really good beats
Who
Man what a time.I was like 11 when they came out but by the time 2000s hit they were gone.Bone thugs were almost gone but they kept going.
They actually came back in 2008 with Planet Crucon. The album slaps, unfortunately it didn't get much marketing.
@@ismoketrack Honestly CC is over in my eyes. Did you also know that Wild style, one of the members (also the producer of all the albums and is the creator of the group) announced last year that he is no longer a member of CC? They haven't released anything in years and haven't made a single attempt to put out another album.
@@trayweathersby7490 them niggas don't even looked the same it's just only 2 of them from last I heard the group don't even exist anymore.
Bone fell off hard. Their production from the 2000s and beyond has been average
That Hey song with that Funkadelic sample is a massive classic. I recall they were in the movie Belly. They were Rico's Crew in Nebraska (filmed in New Jersey) and one of they're songs was playing in the strip club scene.
Wow didn't know that was them.yea I remember the song during the strip club scene
That song was called Swell Up. I wish that song would of came out
The first group who sampled that Funkadelic beat were the 5th Ward Boyz.
@@demetriusrousseau7919 Thank you for the information. I just checked out that intro.
@@kincamell exactly🎯
I was rocking with them ever since the first time I saw their video on Rap City! I hurried to Circuit City and bought the single/instrumental 😂😂
Same here. I got the single cassette from this place called Music land at Evergreen Plaza on the Southside. There was a remix of the single too as I remember.
I grew up listening to these dudes! That first album was a everyday part of my life! I'm from the south but I connected right away to Crucial's country style! I listened to that tape so much it got dull and didn't play clear no more! Damn! I'm old! How many of y'all can still remember when all music was on cassette tapes? The new generation don't know nothing about tapes!
I liked getting the tape inserts with the credits, shout outs etc. I don’t miss that tape ribbon getting snapped or tangled though
Im from Illinois and I 🫡 You for this…Thank You….now it’s time for a Do Or Die Stunted Growth!!! Most underrated group ever!!
From NYC, and was definitely a big Do or Die fan… The only thing that they had in common was they rapped fast… Other than that, their subject matter was totally different… Always thought they might have been bigger if they were on a different label… Rap a Lot was horrible at promoting anything outside of TX
@@uncommonsense23 Damn lie RAL is the reason Po Pimp blew up!
🗣️East St. Louis 618
My dudes 💪🏾 They gave the best road map to Chicago streets. Especially the west side. Definitely unsung. 👍🏿💪🏾🎩⭐️🌙
Now that these dudes have matured, them, Bone, Twista, and Do Or Die can put a tour together and and make a lot of money. If they are all smart, they can make a collaboration together to feed their families. People will still pay to see them perform because they bring back memories for lots of people. Same thing for Mo Thugs
I would be there, for sure!
They have had the exact concert multiple times in the past few years , look up Midwest legends tour …WRM Productions
I see wild style on the west side of Chicago all the time and he said they just signed a bad contract plan and simple
Yeah I thought Fab Five Freddy had somethin to do with their shady deal
Exactly. Had nothing to do with their aesthetics or music.
Their music was so official 36 mafia and CC was supposed to clicc up to form another group.
There was so much wasted potential back then on the business side.
Exactly everybody from the city knows this
I’m from Chicago I approve this.
What makes Chicago unique and different is that it’s like the North meets the South. Northern vibes but with a Southern twang.
Different than Detroit and definitely different than New York
Facts
Ain't none southern about chi
@@masterme550 Southside WestSide. Northside is tourism. Black Chicago always has that mix of northern and southern blood. It’s not New York, Philly, but it’s not so Atlanta or Texas.
Midwest in general is really mix of both. Large major cities but laidback vibe.
@@terucks I'm from Dallas and i always thought the Midwest was just southern people in a northern environment.
@@kalimol9397 exactly it is. Chicago is such a big city but it’s laidback, it’s not a city that never sleeps like New York. Downtown for a long time was just for work area but now they are changing the landscape of the city. Chicago really and forever will be a blue collar city unlike what they are trying renovate
One classic album (96). One good album (98). I still play CC music. 1996 Final Tic is one of my top 10 albums that year
The 🤔 2nd album was a classic too ,yall got crucial conflict fucked up
Just the production on "desperado" was before its time... 🔥
Ummmmm the second album was better than the first to me. Lots of features, solid production, I still play it regularly.
@@AJGrey-bo1ry I like both of em, but I do like the 2nd a little more ,a lot of that 90s rap is timeless 👌
@@jameshooper1382 *Just an inside tip… Kanye told me this himself.. listen to the drum programming on CC ‘Showdown’ & then listen the the drum programming on ‘Slow Jamz’… LOL… identical. Kanye confessed it.*
I was in high school when this came out. Omg. We took a trip to Atlanta (with a computer club i was in) and went to a party (in a barn converted into a party hall) and they played this song!!! Good times! 🎉🎉🎉
Can you do Petey Pablo next?
I was signed too Rawdope rec, alittle after Crucial Conflict, I am from the group MFD,(Marked foe death ) We are on the second Album : goodside badside & credited on & appeared on two songs, " raw dope anthem " & the song " back against the wall " & young guns is also a diss to BTNH, I was around with my group in most of the early C.C work, The final tic album & alittle of the Good side badside album in wich the entire Rawdope family was on.. they never took a ten year break, where u getting your info from?
That's cool bro. I loved bumpin that Raw Dope Anthem! Nice way to end the Goodside Badside album!
Thank you! Whoever did this DID NOT do their research!
This dude has no credibility at all… I know 1st hand a lot of stuff with The ‘Flict & this video ain’t it… I mean these dudes are a ‘one hit wonder’ yet are playing Lollapalooza right now??? LMAOOOOOOOO.
I damn near lost my mind a couple of months back me and my crew went to the strip club and they play Ride the Rodeo by Crucial Conflict 😂
Definitely not a one hit wonder 💯💪🏾👑🌠
Brother, across the freakin' nation, ppl lose their minds on that track. That's what they aren't talking about. CC was that camp. Damn platinum status and all that industry BS. CC had mad love across the 🌎. Their record deal is what killed the group. It's what does it all the time. CC should have gone independent. It was a term that was practically unheard of back in the day. However, today, independent is the new FREEDOM!
Right... that was a hit
@@jaykaynum5569 This commentary guy is all the way thrown off. 1 hit wonder where?
That song go hard I was in 3rd grade when it popped
you got a new sub just for bringing back Crucial Conflict ✊🏾
I cap you not, I was just telling my brother days ago, he being the one to put me on Crucial Conflict, that I haven't seen one video on TH-cam about their career. Thank You
As a Chicagoan we appreciate this video now do The Chief Bump J next✔️
Bone Thugs is what really stunted their growth. They couldn't compete with Bone Thugs when it came to making hits. Bone Thugs are the peak and standard of fast rap mixed with harmony. Shout out to Crucial Conflict for giving it their best tho.
Bone was nothing without Eazy-E. But yeah Crucial just wasn’t it
Nuff said.
They had two slept on albums
Bone was sneak dissin' too.
And people say migos is the best group gtfoh.migos is fucking wack compared to Bone.
Coming up as an artist from K-town in that era of music. You touched on some great points. Chicago artist fell victim to the cutthroat mentality of the music business and gang culture colliding. This was so new to Chicago, it took many years later for us to get our piece of the pie.
All facts!
You know what?! When you’re in the hood and you couldn’t afford cable back then, some musicians you had no idea what they looked like. Nowadays, people have access to the internet. They have cell phones. And cable is more affordable than it was back then. So now you can see who that person is
The song "Showdown" was 🔥
Desperado too
The second album to me was there best work because it had so many hits on it with great features. Don’t believe me, listen to a song from that album called airplanes featuring do or die. It went really hard but due to lack of promotion and no real released singles it went under the radar. I remember when I went to my homeboy crib and saw it sitting on his dresser. I was like “is this a new crucial conflict album?” That is literally the only reason I even found out about it. This was back in the 90’s so if you didn’t have heavy magazine and television promotion you just couldn’t get the word out about your project. But crucial conflict good side bad side album is still on of my top five favorite albums today. Thanks for taking the time to read all this.
I listened to it the other month,I always said it was their best album.
Crucial Conflict was one of my favorite groups from the Chi
One of my favorite Groups growing up big props to you for shedding light on them 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
As a Chicagoan that loves my city I’m happy you did this video
You the 3rd chicago person that's said that,something I didn't agree with was ,he was calling crucial conflict, southern acting ,as if they weren't chicago guys,and chicago rap,but I have to agree they're different from others, matter fact common,kayne west,da brat,Twista, I can't think of no one in chicago that reminds me of crucial conflict, that Crunk style, fast rapping ,gangsta rap,they were like bone mixed with memphis style, common sound like new York rap kayne west too,but the new school rap, chicago has its own style now,drill music
I like the way you break down artists on your stunted growth, you use facts, logic, and an intelligent analysis that you can't help but agree with 98% of the time.
We need one for Do or Die.
And the snypaz
Factssss
From Houston Do or die and the snypaz was on rap a lot we jammed Do or die a lot the snypaz went hard to they was definitely underrated
You’ll see Wildstyle and Coldheart threw the city all the time.
Facts
I used to see Dawreck and Never a lot
Thanks for this one from Chicago
I think they out done themselves on their second album and both album’s 🔥
They song ghetto queen was everything!!
Planet Crucon! “Welcome to world would you like to go!” That Rick James sample still go hard! All about perspective
PsychoDrama, Crucial Conflict, Do Or Die, Bennie Franks, Traxster, Twista, Turtle Banxx, High Beam, Ms. Kane, Toya, Common Sense.. Chicago has some thumpers in the game. I love the Chicago sound.
Ok. Now you posting on a group I havent heard in a minute!!! Totally support this channel. I thought the HAY song would be the next sound of Chicago in the 90s but it didnt go that way. That HAY song was big!!!!
Bro I love you for this one
😂😂 facts
Seriously though!😂🙌🏾
Why just this one? I love him for all he does.
I still bump their music
Tela would be a good one. Even though he's a Texas/ down south artist, he was always very popular here in the DMV area. Rap-a-lot as a whole was always popular here
Tela Is From Memphis, Not Texas.
@Antoine Raymond very true. My bad. Suave House before the Rap a lot days
Damn I never thought Tela would be popular in D.C.
@Free State Of Grizzy honestly southern music was always very big here. I think it was a rebellion to New York music. A lot of people here would not listen to artists from NY
Tela is dat dude!!!! From Suavehouse to Rap a Lot
I'm from Bed-Stuy BK! My block rocked with Crucial heavy!
Still bumping them to this day
Thanks for that link taking advantage for getting new sounds for Beats
That first Album still riding, you had to look pass the image and actually pay attention to what they were saying
Life ain't the same
@@oldheadtv3152 That's the one 🎯
I loved their 1st 2 albums … where I’m from people claim to like them but only knew radio songs … I was happy wen they collabed with my favorite group 666 Mafia in 1998 … Good Side Bad Side is classic as well as Final Tic
To whoever made this video, good job on this. Also I’d like to point out that aside from their song Hay, the song Scummy from their second album is worthy of being mentioned. I’m sure alot of people besides me was jammin to it.
I grew up listening to Crucial Conflict, Twista and Do or Die back in the 90's when I was little I'm also from the Westside of Chicago too and back in the day on the Westside we were bumping their music a lot
Whoa! You went way back on this one. I always wondered what happened to them. Thanks for the video!
I’m and old head and I still bump crucial, DOD, psycho drama, COD, triple darkness and twista. I mean all the music from that time I still ride to
Thanks for the video! Can we get that "ruff ryders or drag-on or eve video" stunted growth 🤔 🙏
I was waiting for this one!!!!
At the time when "The final tic(96)" came out I was in my late teens. Of course the song "Hay" slaps HARD!! I loved the video and then a few months later I bought the album. I have all of their albums except their compilations! Imo their first 2 are my favorites 👍! Their 93 ep " Crucial times" I actually have. They were on most songs on that consciousness vibe 🪨! It was pretty good for them being so young. Glad that they're still around doing music! If they're planning on doing an album in the future I'm definitely getting it!
I'm from the Land and bone did have a big affect on Crucial Conflict but a lot of us still banged their album. I still play their 1st album. Beginning to End.
That album was a classic
@@blkdank1 man what! Back when you couldn't skip not one song or didn't listen to it just for beats. Classic
Crucial Conflict had a southern country vibe, but understandable seeing they like most folks (in their case, Peoples) from Chicago have Alabama, Mississippi & Tennessee roots.
Not a single mention of Do or Die and they're from Chicago and have the double-time flow.
A CC and BONE collab could’ve been legendary. Imagine if CC could’ve been mentored by the Cleveland boys. That could’ve been magical!
Man we were proud of cc in cleveland beef was probaly more hype could have put entire region on but it looks like drill will be chi towns claum to fame no one else can take credit for
How about a video on the Outlawz?
2pac death stunted their growth.... There done haha
In the late 80's (88-90) we fought hard to establish a chicago rap scene but at the time most of the local dj's were only doing house music, our radio personalities treated rap like a weekend one hour annoyance, we had a label here called DJ INTERNATIONAL that sponsored battles between house artists and rap artists we won but to no avail house music is still king here and the original members of crucial conflict were very young back then.
Crucial Conflict are real ones from the crib and that's facts 💯
I’ve always pefered Psychodrama over everybody from the crib
@@retroessoI love Psychodrama too 💯
@@retroesso Magic is a classic
Great video indeed can you do a video on the spooks and ming xia.
I still listen to tell it to the judge to this day 💯
Loved this group !
*Crucial Conflict* (Coldhard, Never, Q-Ball & Wildstyle), *Ditryboyz/Dirty* (Big Pimp & Mr. Gangsta) and *Field Mob* (Shawn Jay & Smoke) should definitely form a supergroup and make a couple of albums.
He said a lot in that opening scene. He was making lite of something deeper! You see all their demeanors while he was talking. Ain’t no stunted growth, they wanted to keep they cheeks closed 😮
I WAS THE ONLY PERSON WHO REALLY ASKED ABOUT THIS VIDEO…I GUESS I DONT GET LOVE FOR GIVING THIS IDEA TO THIS CHANNEL 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Still attend crucial conflict shows and they real down to earth.. Smoked with them and everything.. They Almighty (Vice Lord)like me as well..
I love that you got two channels stunted growth and stunted growth music and talk about both sports and music. One luv to ya JC
Damn, I just saw them opening for Lil Rell on his comedy special. Always a classic!!!
I was born in in November 96. Born and raised in Chicago💚 I was listening the final Tic Before I got here and till this day I still listen to that album while I’m cleaning my home or when I get in my feelings about my father that passed a few years ago . One of my favorite albums 🥰
I love my city Chicago and we had some underrated rappers at that time
I remember bumping this single back in the day, Hay
I don't feel they were one hit wonders. Maybe it was because I was local but "Ride the Rodeo" almost got as much play as "Hay" from what I remember here in Chicago. Maybe it was just me and my friends
The Flict didn't bite nobody, they all had authentic styles, but the midwest was on fire back then tho
I guess this video won’t ever get ‘em to ever release the song “Swell Up” from shootout scene in Belly.
I was 11 years old when I came home from school and seen the video for hay on rap city for the first time those where the good ol days and I still listen to them til this day
Chi always had that South twang with a northern swag. Midwest don't get that appreciation in the game like the other 3 regions, but the "middle" always blow hard when it's our turn
That's because most of us are from Mississippi roots💯
Chicago got roots to Mississippi and Tennessee bruh.
What happened to Tony Rome from the Almighty RSO?
Because we in the middle we get exposed to everything ,historically Chicago hip hop has all types of styles from soulful to lyrical to gangster to now drill...the south side and the west are like two different cities in one with 2 similar yet different cultures and our music reflect that ..thats why we can have a common/lupe /chance/ye and also a twista/do or die /psychodrama now rooga,von,duck etc