I love that the Crystal Palace Iguanadon is getting recognized in a way that isn't making fun of it. It's easy for us modern folk to look at the Crystal Palace reconstructions and call it silly looking, but these reconstructions, and especially this dinner, actually did a great deal to help popularize paleontology. Besides that, it's just so charming that these people celebrated the sciences in such splendor.
Thing about science is that our understanding of things is always adapting. We thought dinosaurs were slow, bulky, and cumbersome, and then slowly came up with more ideas based on evidence that they were capable of pack mentality, maternal care, could be warm-blooded, and even had feathers as a heating mechanism (which pissed off the people who grew up on Jurassic Park). The key thing is our willingness to admit when we are wrong and our ability to process new evidence while accepting how things were back in the day without viewing it in contempt.
@@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 I really don't get the people who say feathered dinosaurs aren't scary. Mf, is a bear not scary because it's fluffy? Personally, I think feathered dinosaurs look even scarier, makes them look even bigger. Just imagine, you're in a jungle, rain's pouring over your tent, and you can't even hear the thing approaching, next thing you know, something sticks its head through the front opening of the tent, two eyes stare back into yours, cold, unfeeling, the only thing behind them being murder and gore. And then, he digs in, doesn't even stop to kill you, it just begins eating, mincing your entrails as you scream into the night.
@@dud3655 I've known a couple of people to say they were saddened to see that a Velociraptor as we now know it looks more like a chicken than the ferocious thing we saw on JP, lame weak and pathetic. Those people have clearly never dealt with chickens before.
"I got this copy at a bookstore recently, they did not know what they had" I'm a librarian and I am absolutely SCREAMING. Thank you for taking it home and (you'd absolutely MUST) taking good care of it.
The Crystal Palace was originally built as a temporary structure in Hyde Park for the Great Exhibition of 1851, but it was so popular that a private consortium purchased it and moved it to Penge, then on the outskirts of London, to function as a theme park. The Dinosaur Dinner happened during this relocation, as the dinosaurs were commissioned for the gardens at the new site, and would have been great publicity. The palace burned down in 1936, but the dinosaurs are still there! You can actually see the anachronistic iguanodon where this happened in what is now Crystal Palace park in London today. You can't eat inside it any more, but you can have a picnic nearby if you want.
@@Phreestyle1 Used to American Disney-type construction with lathe, plastic, and fiberglass, I have nothing but respect for this. It sounds more like a bunker. A dino-shaped bunker.
@@ragnkja 😂 I actually tried that when my kid was little and she freaked out because she loved dinosaurs (I had no idea). Took me like 6 months can convince her I was lying and it was really just chicken. OOPS. 😅
One of my favorite anecdotes about plate tectonics is a story one of my teachers had about when she was in school. A purveyor of jigsaw puzzles, she saw a map of the globe and figured "huh, this right angle by Brazil and this right angle by Africa look like they could fit together," and was told off by her teacher for the ridiculous prospect that entire continents could shatter apart and spread across the ocean.
It was a rough time for an academically-inclined kid (like me), because so much was changing in so many disciplines at the time. And one year you'd get a teacher who was enthusiastic about making sure we got all the new information and that's what we'd learn, but then the next year (or even the next class period of the day) you'd get an older teacher who was like the one in your comment, who had been teaching exactly the same thing for forty years and wasn't about to change their ways for a bunch of newfangled nonsense, and you either parroted the outdated information for her or you failed her class. I was that know-it-all argumentative kid in class, so I usually did the latter along with a lot of detentions lol
I think I had the same conversation and the same result as a kid. I was in elementary school during this period: The International Geophysical Year (IGY; French: Année géophysique internationale) was an international scientific project that lasted from 1 July 1957 to 31 December 1958. It marked the end of a long period during the Cold War when scientific interchange between East and West had been seriously interrupted. (Google). This is when plate tectonics really became widely recognized, unfortunately after Alfred Wegener had passed.
it's wild how things change. i had the same thought as a kid in the 90s, but by that point you'd get teachers who'd then excitedly point you towards dinosaurs and pangea
Fun fact: the town I was born in (Maidstone, England) has an Iguanodon on its official heraldry, added in 1949 in reference to some of the first Iguanodon fossils being found nearby by Gideon Mantell in the 19th Century. It remains one of the only towns in the world that features a dinosaur on its official heraldry.
You've actually answered a question I've had for a long time! Ages ago I learned that the Chernyshevsky District in eastern Russia has the dinosaur Kulindadromeus on their flag and coat of arms, and I've always wondered whether it was the only non-avian dinosaur in that position. It and Iguanodon are both super significant in the history of paleontology, so it's awesome for them both to be honored that way.
"An answer will oblige" is great. Many years ago I worked abroad in a diplomatic post, where my boss received about a dozen dinner invitations a week. He would review each and then send them back to me with 'WMP' or 'MRU' scrawled on them. At the end of my first day I had to ask what those meant. Turned out they were intended to tell me how he wanted to RSVP to the invitation: "With much pleasure", or "Many regrets, unable". That same job saw me being ordered to take on the chef of one of Brussels' fanciest restaurants over a matter of 'insufficiently done' (i.e., raw) pigeon. I think I would have preferred to charge a machinegun nest.
You’re right that Mrs Beeton’s recipes were not tested. She started putting them in The Englishwoman’s Domestic Magazine that she and her husband ran when she was barely 21. She grabbed them from anywhere, plagiarising them, and getting them from readers. Sadly she died at 28. I’d be interested in what you might have to say about the Book of Household Management. That’s a lovely edition you have bought. I enjoy all your content, watching it from across the pond, where I too, have seen the dinosaurs at Crystal Palace.
As someone who has subjected my friends to a "Mrs Beeton Rant", I'm glad you acknowledge the errors in her book, and I'm looking forward to a full video on the book.
Also, Mrs Beeton's lifestory is one of massive tragedy. Subscribers should have a discreet lace hankerchief to hand so they can sob into it at the end of any video.
I grew up near Crystal Palace and the dinosaurs are brilliant - it's great to see the history of palaeontology on display. Also their derpiness is just adorable.
@@angietyndall7337 in Colorado, there’s a town called Dinosaur, Colorado. They have mildly terrifying Dino sculptures sprinkled throughout town. It’s an experience for sure!
5:24 "So you just have to wing it" The pun was right there! Been watching your videos for a long time now and I'm sure the missed pun will live rent free in your head for a bit. My wife and I thoroughly enjoy every one of your videos.
I remember hearing about this. And as a geologist myself, I can wholeheartedly attest that an invitation to such a beastly and weird dinner would have been accepted faster than you can scorch milk over a high flame! Heck yeah! 🦖 🍽️ 😂
When I was a kid (at roughly the same time as Max) the iguanadon dinner was featured in my big, ancient hardcover book about dinosaurs. I used to repeat facts about it to my parents a LOT. So when I saw this video, believe me I was excited! 🤣
10:25 "Outrageous desserts." Madeira Jelly is gelatin (or agar), and Madeira Wine, with added plain sugar or syrup. Bavaroise is Bavarian Cream, which is made from Creme Anglaise (milk, vanilla, eggs and sugar) thickened in a cold mold with gelatin or isinglass, and served with whipped cream. Charlotte de Russe is a cake that uses ladyfingers as a crust base, and has a filling of Bavaroise or another custard, and whole fruit (usually berries). Nougat de Chantilly are small candies made of pounded sugar and hazelnuts, filled with maraschino or vanilla flavored whipped cream, and strawberries. Boisson de Meringue aux Confitures is milk topped with jam meringue.
Sir, the “Outrageous desserts” that you’ve described sound rather interesting to say the least, thank you for describing them, now I will have to find photos of them for visual references, thank you.
The menu lists a "French Pastry." That's about as specific as going to a military museum that features "a gun." In both cases, there are literally hundreds of varieties, and there's no way to recreate it from the name alone.
As a bio student considering going into paleontology professionally, what an exciting video! You've absolutely nailed capturing the significance of this particular era in paleontology and showing it in a positive light, despite how utterly silly some of the assertions about dinosaurs from back then seem, at least compared to what we know today. Your instinct to cook a gamebird dish was smart, too- of course one should be eating a dinosaur *inside* a dinosaur, though nobody at the time knew that yet, ironically. Will definitely be trying this recipe, and sharing with some of my other friends who are interested in the field. Also, for other potential videos on early paleontology, perhaps we could get a video on the life of Mary Anning? Few people talk about her, but she was a MAJOR influence on the field- you have her to thank for plesiosaurs, ichthyosaurs, ammonites, and a whole lot of other things. And it might be interesting to take a look at the seafood of the era, since she lived on the coasr!
When my kids were young, in the late 90s- early 2000s, we had a dinosaur video that covered Mary Anning and the dinner in an iguanodon. I just asked my daughter if she remembered this; she does not, but I was so excited because I know about this!
I remember first learning about this from an "Eye Witness: Dinosaurs" VHS tape I used to watch over and over again as a small child. The imagery of the first Iguanadon reconstruction and subsequent dinner party inside of it has never left me.
In Louisiana now everyone is into dark rouxs and super thick sauces that are heavy cream based. People don’t realize what a simple light roux and some Beurre Manié can do especially with seafood. Or even taking garlic add some warm stock to it. Add it to a blender or food processor and add olive oil till it thickens. Then fold that into your dish in the last 5-10 minutes. Incredible results!
I love this series! I recently became widowed (June 11, 2023) after 17 years of marriage. One of the first things I bought was the tasting history cookbook and at the memorial service all the dishes will come from that book since the show makes me happy.
Pro-tip - if you want to see some of the Crystal Palace dinosaurs without actually going to Crystal Palace park, they briefly feature in Good Omens S1 Ep1. About 40 minutes in Warlock and his mother go for a walk in a park and you can see the dinosaurs in the background.
"An answer will oblige" could be combined with "Serve it forth" in your RSVP. "I oblige you serve your answer forth!" Maybe toss in a "Scallywag!" at the end for artistic flare and a punctual response Max. 12:44 I wish I could have been at this party. Victorian dinosaur rap needs to make a musical comeback. Thanks for the video, the recipe looks delicious!
When every recipe site wants to tell you a story before ever getting to the recipe, Max does it right, giving you the dish first so you can then listen to the history while you enjoy the meal.
I'm from SE London and grew up going to see the dinosaurs in Crystal Palace park! I was there recently, looks like they got a considerable grant to help preserve the statues :) Thanks for the recipe Max!
As someone who did a history project about the science of paleontology, this makes me so happy. Big thanks to all the early scientists for their contributions!
Its not that Victorian cooking is that unique its that modern cooking has become the same method of making the same 4 flavor profiles ad nauseum. Try to convince someone to eat poached chicken...good luck. Everything is browned to death, over salted, over seasoned and over complicated for no reason. Even the church social dump style recipes have gotten unnecessarily complicated. Sometimes more is just more, not better
I have a facsimile of the first edition of Mrs Beeton’s book, which my mother bought in the Seventies. The recipe that we found most amusing was Collared Pig’s Face, which was identified as a breakfast or luncheon dish. It included an illustration of a whole pig’s head on a platter. My brother’s girlfriend was creeped out by the whole idea, so naturally my mom and I had to point it out to her on more than one occasion. My family had a snarky sense of humor.
I love the shout out to their strategic and inviting way of educating the public. It's such a cause for celebration when people think to -- and then successfully achieve -- this goal. This is how we grow as a culture!
I feel like there are new parents in the audience with children who are Dinosaur Aficionados like Max. I’m picturing taking down notes for the next special dinner.
Dinosaurs were fascinating to me when I was a kid, but even better were oddities at dinner. I would have adored something like eight-legged roast chicken, a specialty of British-Canadian cook James Barber (he used to buy extra drumsticks and sew them onto the uncooked bird before seasoning and roasting it).
As someone who's been here since day 2 of the Garum video I remember when you had like 7k subs and then a week or two later you were getting 7k a day and then a week or two after that and you were getting 7k every few hrs and now you are at 1.77 MILLION subs. You and José have done such an amazing job! Congratulations!
Plate Tectonics has always been a favourite subject. When my mother first came to Canada in 1953, she started working with the Geological Survey of Canada. She got her job from John Tuzo Wilson, the geologist and geophysicist whose study and subsequent theories proved the fact of global movement of plates and the continental shifts that made him the Father of Plate Tectonics. She respected him highly. She later became a geography teacher and taught about Plate Tectonics as well as Glaciation, another favourite subject of mine. I was thrilled to meet Tuzo Wilson in the 1970s, when he was the Director of the Science Centre in Toronto (He remembered me as a baby!)
The dinosaurs are still there! When my daughter was little, you could still get up close and personal to them, but these days they are protected by a lake and fences, and they sit in their own little islands in the lake. Great fun to visit, although my grandsons are getting a bit too old for them now. Meanwhile, gravy here in Britain is very different to that served in the USA - ours is much thinner. And a lump of sugar is a teaspoonful, not a tablespoon!
I remember reading about this dinner as a kid! My favorite bit was the detail about how the nose "horn" on the iguanodon they ate in was actually a thumb spike. Knife hands!
There’s something very tender and heartwarming about hearing of these scientists honoring their fallen fellow researchers on New Year’s Eve, inside an iguanadon. Drinking, writing ballads, giving speeches. It must’ve been a very cathartic night.
As you were talking about how recent some scientific discoveries are I thought “for real, like plate tectonics,” and then that’s exactly what you said, so that was fun and a little strange. Wonderful video, as always!
The Victorian Era has some of the coolest, yet weirdest events/food history lol. I'm glad there's records of it. Thanks for doing this video! Imagine dining in a dinosaur with 8 courses!
Hi Max! I wanted to thank you for all the awesome content you make. I’m watching this before I leave to head to the airport for study abroad in Kazakhstan!
I'm only slightly older than you, and didn't learn about plate tectonics until a "rocks for jocks" geography class in college in the early 90s. The professor couldn't stress enough how this discovery would change the world. We all thought, "yeah, yeah." But he was right! Shows to listen to your professors, even in the "easy" classes. Learn something new everyday.
Thank you so much for this episode! As a tiny child I had memorized the name of every dinosaur that had been discovered up to that point (in the early 70s). When we went to the Field Museum when I was 3 I was over the moon. I cannot believe between MY love of dinosaurs and my kid's love of dinos (and the accompanying trips to the Field for them, and the endless books we'd read together) that I've never heard this story! 💚 PS: I LOVE your shirt, I'd bought a very similar one for my kiddo when they were tiny
When growing up in the early 2000s my mother at the time would do this thing called Pioneer Days and we’d spend a week no electricity ⚡️ we’d cook only using a fire place an old cast iron stove it was great I loved it and homemade stove corn bread was always my favorite
When you think max finally succumbed to a click bait title… Nope, they actually dined inside a dinosaur. Where do you find these topics? Absolutely Brilliant!
No idea how you come up with the topics but they are always brilliant! The Crystal palace dinosaurs are such an interesting bunch, maybe it's time to visit them again.
Locally, our zoo offers a fundraising dinner and a sleepover held in the primate house, it smells amazing. I can't wait to see what direction this dino dinner goes 😬
This reminds me of the story where scientists found and tried eating Woolly Mammoth. They discovered a frozen Mammoth in 1901 Siberia near Beresovca River which was so well preserved, its meat was still pink.
I didn't think that I was possible to top the combination of two of my favorite things (food and history if course), but, you've done it by adding another favorite in the form of dinosaurs!! All that's missing is music and baby animals and you would have covered them all!!
Wow, I'm so stoked to see a video about this! I was very, very, into dinosaurs as a kid, and very into the Victorian era as a teen/young adult, so this event is like the perfect combination of both haha. I remember having the picture of the Iguanadon dinner, as well as a photo of the Crystal Palace dinosaurs, in one or more dinosaur books as a kid. I always longs to go see the Crystal Palace dinosaurs myself, and finally got my wish a few years ago. It's remarkable how they're still standing over 150 years later!
I have long been a fan of this channel and I must say you do an excellent job of describing this sauce. It really is the invention at the core of this dish.
Your comments on science are fabulous. I took an introductory geology course in college in 1964. There was no mention of plate tectonics in the textbook or in the class. I heard about that earth movement over the next few years, and of course it has become well-known even to the general public. Thank you for this great video, and all of the others I have seen.
funny enough we ran this dish as a special at a restaurant that i used to work at, except that we used chicken, and lardon, as you mentioned before. we would make demi glace ahead of time and use that along with some extra butter and sherry for the sauce along with the shallots, mushrooms, etc. Far and Away my favorite dish edit: i dont remember us serving croutons with it. but they would be excellent for soaking up any extra sauce left on the plate, and very tasty. another edit: sorry, it's all coming back to me now. instead of a whole bird like a cornish game hen, we used airline chicken breasts. just in case people felt like trying a variation of the dish in the video.
One of the best videos you've done, and that's saying something because you are BRILLIANT! As a fellow dinosaur lovely, this is so up my alley. And I was recently thinking the same myself, it's incredible how recent so many integral discoveries, concepts and inventions in today's age are. Something about the concept of a dining in a recently discovered group of giant creatures for New Year's Eve is tickling me. The Victorians once again proving why they're one of the most brilliant time periods in history. Thanks for sharing as always ❤
The picture of Edward Forbes made me scream. That man was just wild and wonderful (he referred to Starfish as friends and kept slugs in his pocket...in a tin...) ❤ Amazing video as always!
I loved dinosaurs as a kid and I actually remember having a book with this scene in it. Also want to add that the model they ate inside was incorrect in that they thought one of the toes was a nose horn.
The illustration of them all sitting in the dinosaur brought back an old memory of me and my brother as kids making up stories and he came up with a character called iguanodonatron, so I looked up iguanodon and saw that image and for years that was just what iguanodon meant to me. Great video, loved learning the history behind this.
I was so excited to see this come across my subscription box because I just defended a dissertation with a portion relating to the Crystal Palace at Sydenham, and have delivered a talk that discussed this very dinner! Very cool seeing stuff I've studied and researched (including in the 1850s Birmingham Journal!) featured on this channel. Also, if anyone is interested in reading more about how Victorian scientists like Richard Owen (tried) reconstructed dinosaurs from small bone fossils, I'd highly recommend Show Me the Bone by Gowan Dawson!
I love that you covered this. This party is one of the things I remember first when of learning about the history of paleontology as a kid. Great to get more detail about it.
I love all episodes, but for some reason this one especially strikes my fancy and may be my top favorite yet. Also really hoping the episode on the old cookbook comes to fruition, it sounds absolutely fascinating.
Please make this a series like you did with the Titanic! It’s so fun to learn about all of this and I always wanted to know what they ate on that dinner!
That looked amazing! And you looked like you thoroughly enjoyed it. Not that I think you've tasted everything, but for you to say that the sauce is unlike anything you've tasted before, is quite interesting. Thank you for bringing us new recipes, even if they do come from antiquity.
What kid doesn't like dinosaurs when they are young? I have noticed I appreciate ocean-bound ancient creatures a bit more as an adult, although that is because I have loved all things related to sea life since a young age, both ancient and modern things. Whew, this was a crazy "weird but true" story, with a delicious meal to prep up alongside. Thanks for the video, Max.
Maybe I'm just too much of a nerd for Victorian morbidity, but this made me wonder how many Victorians sat in a sarcophagus to consume their powdered mummy supplements. It had to happen, right? You could do a whole shorts series on Regency/Victorian Inedibles to cover the many things they ate that it's just not safe for you to recreate. Antimony is one of my favorites to explain to people because it's just so buckwild.
Hey Max, be careful with that book in 1:45 . Sometimes in the 19th century they used arsenic to make green colors for book cover. In fact, the only books I need to wear gloves in the archive are bright colored 19th century books because they can be literal poison. Not saying that book is dangerous, just telling you just in case!! great work anyways
1880 is well past the height of arsenic dyes, but sadly the synthetic dyes that followed weren’t non-toxic either, so it’s probably best to be careful.
Max, I do wish you'd covet the history of gingerbread, and how it evolved from a confection that was basically licorice, to the gingerbread we knew today (likely from Dutch & German influence in the USA) I'd like to see you try your hand at making decorative/molded gingerbread confections ❤
The life of Waterhouse Hawkins goes even beyond that dinner. He tried to recreate his success in New York, but he had a run-in with Boss Tweed. The Crystal Palace dinosaurs remain where they stood, and you can still see them at Crystal Palace Park today.
At 5:27, I agree. Even as just a Home Chef, one of my favorite sayings is "Baking is a Science, Cooking is an Art." I'm okay at both, but I've been baking for longer (Literally I made a Pumpkin Pie when I was 6 years old) but the best non-baking cooking I could do back then was spaghetti or mac-and-cheese. Now, I make chilli that's spicy enough to kill someone.
Long time fan first time caller. How many book reports did you deliver as a kid that were impeccably organized but contained a floor show. Grats as always for the empire you have created.
I love that the Crystal Palace Iguanadon is getting recognized in a way that isn't making fun of it. It's easy for us modern folk to look at the Crystal Palace reconstructions and call it silly looking, but these reconstructions, and especially this dinner, actually did a great deal to help popularize paleontology. Besides that, it's just so charming that these people celebrated the sciences in such splendor.
I think they're now a listed monument.
Thing about science is that our understanding of things is always adapting. We thought dinosaurs were slow, bulky, and cumbersome, and then slowly came up with more ideas based on evidence that they were capable of pack mentality, maternal care, could be warm-blooded, and even had feathers as a heating mechanism (which pissed off the people who grew up on Jurassic Park). The key thing is our willingness to admit when we are wrong and our ability to process new evidence while accepting how things were back in the day without viewing it in contempt.
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@@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 I really don't get the people who say feathered dinosaurs aren't scary. Mf, is a bear not scary because it's fluffy? Personally, I think feathered dinosaurs look even scarier, makes them look even bigger. Just imagine, you're in a jungle, rain's pouring over your tent, and you can't even hear the thing approaching, next thing you know, something sticks its head through the front opening of the tent, two eyes stare back into yours, cold, unfeeling, the only thing behind them being murder and gore. And then, he digs in, doesn't even stop to kill you, it just begins eating, mincing your entrails as you scream into the night.
@@dud3655 I've known a couple of people to say they were saddened to see that a Velociraptor as we now know it looks more like a chicken than the ferocious thing we saw on JP, lame weak and pathetic. Those people have clearly never dealt with chickens before.
"I got this copy at a bookstore recently, they did not know what they had"
I'm a librarian and I am absolutely SCREAMING. Thank you for taking it home and (you'd absolutely MUST) taking good care of it.
Yeah, I'm thinking he scored a good price on it. I am envious.
@Judy Johnson it's such an old copy, it needs protection and preservation! Better the archive or the home caretaker than the bookstore!
"I'm a librarian ..."
Thank you for your service.
@@MsLeenite you are very sweet.
Max happy to find book Book happy Max found it. Love at first sight.
This is officially the weirdest, yet coolest, cooking video title I have ever seen.
I’ll take it!
The atmosphere must have added to the meal significantly 😊
You're not the only one who thought of that LOL
...and I can't resist clicking.
Max has been waiting to create this episode since he was a kid! ❤
The Crystal Palace was originally built as a temporary structure in Hyde Park for the Great Exhibition of 1851, but it was so popular that a private consortium purchased it and moved it to Penge, then on the outskirts of London, to function as a theme park. The Dinosaur Dinner happened during this relocation, as the dinosaurs were commissioned for the gardens at the new site, and would have been great publicity. The palace burned down in 1936, but the dinosaurs are still there! You can actually see the anachronistic iguanodon where this happened in what is now Crystal Palace park in London today. You can't eat inside it any more, but you can have a picnic nearby if you want.
What was it made of, that it survived the fire?!
@MM22966 as you can see in one of the pictures in the video they were well away from the actual building of the crystal palace
@@MM22966 They are made from concrete with brick interiors.
They also built a replica in Porto, Portugal in the later half of 19th century which was also tore down in 1951 to build a new sports ground.
@@Phreestyle1 Used to American Disney-type construction with lathe, plastic, and fiberglass, I have nothing but respect for this. It sounds more like a bunker. A dino-shaped bunker.
From bird inside of a dinosaur to dino nuggets society has really evolved
It’s probably a lot easier to convince children to eat poultry if you drop the fact that it’s actually dinosaur meat.
@@ragnkja indeed and it's technically not lying
@@velazquezarmouries
If it was untrue, it wouldn’t be a fact.
"evolved" 😂
@@ragnkja 😂 I actually tried that when my kid was little and she freaked out because she loved dinosaurs (I had no idea). Took me like 6 months can convince her I was lying and it was really just chicken. OOPS. 😅
Max has had so many tangents that have to be “a whole other video” that he’s set on content for the next 5 years
One of my favorite anecdotes about plate tectonics is a story one of my teachers had about when she was in school. A purveyor of jigsaw puzzles, she saw a map of the globe and figured "huh, this right angle by Brazil and this right angle by Africa look like they could fit together," and was told off by her teacher for the ridiculous prospect that entire continents could shatter apart and spread across the ocean.
I saw that Brazil/Africa connection when in Grammar school and why they looked like they could fit .I never had the nerve to ask an adult,, though.
They were just beginning to discover it when I was at school, although I gave up geography before it was really known about.
It was a rough time for an academically-inclined kid (like me), because so much was changing in so many disciplines at the time. And one year you'd get a teacher who was enthusiastic about making sure we got all the new information and that's what we'd learn, but then the next year (or even the next class period of the day) you'd get an older teacher who was like the one in your comment, who had been teaching exactly the same thing for forty years and wasn't about to change their ways for a bunch of newfangled nonsense, and you either parroted the outdated information for her or you failed her class. I was that know-it-all argumentative kid in class, so I usually did the latter along with a lot of detentions lol
I think I had the same conversation and the same result as a kid. I was in elementary school during this period: The International Geophysical Year (IGY; French: Année géophysique internationale) was an international scientific project that lasted from 1 July 1957 to 31 December 1958. It marked the end of a long period during the Cold War when scientific interchange between East and West had been seriously interrupted. (Google). This is when plate tectonics really became widely recognized, unfortunately after Alfred Wegener had passed.
it's wild how things change. i had the same thought as a kid in the 90s, but by that point you'd get teachers who'd then excitedly point you towards dinosaurs and pangea
Fun fact: the town I was born in (Maidstone, England) has an Iguanodon on its official heraldry, added in 1949 in reference to some of the first Iguanodon fossils being found nearby by Gideon Mantell in the 19th Century. It remains one of the only towns in the world that features a dinosaur on its official heraldry.
Now that's cool!! Thanks for sharing. :)
Well, technically birds are dinosaurs, so...
But yeah, nonavian dinosaurs are not common.
Hello fellow Maidstonian! I came to comment the exact same thing 😂😂
You've actually answered a question I've had for a long time! Ages ago I learned that the Chernyshevsky District in eastern Russia has the dinosaur Kulindadromeus on their flag and coat of arms, and I've always wondered whether it was the only non-avian dinosaur in that position. It and Iguanodon are both super significant in the history of paleontology, so it's awesome for them both to be honored that way.
@@angela_merkeIhey fellow anarchist food history lover, what's up ❤ 🖤
Dining inside dinosaurs, mummy parties...gosh, the Victorian Era sounds like a wild party time. 😎
They came up with this nonsense cause it was an uptight and boring time.
It was the 80's of Victoria.
Oh those crazy Victorians
It was a dinnersaur, obviously.
Right?? Victorians were curious and morbid AF LOL
"An answer will oblige" is great. Many years ago I worked abroad in a diplomatic post, where my boss received about a dozen dinner invitations a week. He would review each and then send them back to me with 'WMP' or 'MRU' scrawled on them. At the end of my first day I had to ask what those meant. Turned out they were intended to tell me how he wanted to RSVP to the invitation: "With much pleasure", or "Many regrets, unable". That same job saw me being ordered to take on the chef of one of Brussels' fanciest restaurants over a matter of 'insufficiently done' (i.e., raw) pigeon. I think I would have preferred to charge a machinegun nest.
You’re right that Mrs Beeton’s recipes were not tested. She started putting them in The Englishwoman’s Domestic Magazine that she and her husband ran when she was barely 21. She grabbed them from anywhere, plagiarising them, and getting them from readers. Sadly she died at 28. I’d be interested in what you might have to say about the Book of Household Management. That’s a lovely edition you have bought. I enjoy all your content, watching it from across the pond, where I too, have seen the dinosaurs at Crystal Palace.
As someone who has subjected my friends to a "Mrs Beeton Rant", I'm glad you acknowledge the errors in her book, and I'm looking forward to a full video on the book.
Also, Mrs Beeton's lifestory is one of massive tragedy.
Subscribers should have a discreet lace hankerchief to hand so they can sob into it at the end of any video.
So glad to have a Mrs Beeton recipe at last! I’m also looking forward to those Victorian moulded desserts.
@@mahenonz I don't even know what most of those were, so I would love videos on them.
I grew up near Crystal Palace and the dinosaurs are brilliant - it's great to see the history of palaeontology on display. Also their derpiness is just adorable.
O.k. in Utah, U.S.A, there is an actual park called Dinosaur Park. There is a Dinosaur a few years ago, also named the Utah Raptor.
The Leicester Museum and Art Gallery holds the remains of a rather flat plesiosaur known as - appropriately for this vid - the Barrow Kipper.
The Your Dinosaurs Are Wrong channel is good clean fun.
@@angietyndall7337 in Colorado, there’s a town called Dinosaur, Colorado. They have mildly terrifying Dino sculptures sprinkled throughout town. It’s an experience for sure!
5:24 "So you just have to wing it" The pun was right there! Been watching your videos for a long time now and I'm sure the missed pun will live rent free in your head for a bit. My wife and I thoroughly enjoy every one of your videos.
I was thinking the same thing 😂
As a food and dinosaur aficionado, I never thought both could come together so beautifully. this video is heaven
Ditto.
I remember hearing about this. And as a geologist myself, I can wholeheartedly attest that an invitation to such a beastly and weird dinner would have been accepted faster than you can scorch milk over a high flame! Heck yeah! 🦖 🍽️ 😂
When I was a kid (at roughly the same time as Max) the iguanadon dinner was featured in my big, ancient hardcover book about dinosaurs. I used to repeat facts about it to my parents a LOT. So when I saw this video, believe me I was excited! 🤣
"Oh no!!! Here he comes with that bloody dinner again!!" :P
10:25 "Outrageous desserts."
Madeira Jelly is gelatin (or agar), and Madeira Wine, with added plain sugar or syrup.
Bavaroise is Bavarian Cream, which is made from Creme Anglaise (milk, vanilla, eggs and sugar) thickened in a cold mold with gelatin or isinglass, and served with whipped cream.
Charlotte de Russe is a cake that uses ladyfingers as a crust base, and has a filling of Bavaroise or another custard, and whole fruit (usually berries).
Nougat de Chantilly are small candies made of pounded sugar and hazelnuts, filled with maraschino or vanilla flavored whipped cream, and strawberries.
Boisson de Meringue aux Confitures is milk topped with jam meringue.
Sir, the “Outrageous desserts” that you’ve described sound rather interesting to say the least, thank you for describing them, now I will have to find photos of them for visual references, thank you.
The menu lists a "French Pastry." That's about as specific as going to a military museum that features "a gun." In both cases, there are literally hundreds of varieties, and there's no way to recreate it from the name alone.
thank you, now I am hungry
As a bio student considering going into paleontology professionally, what an exciting video! You've absolutely nailed capturing the significance of this particular era in paleontology and showing it in a positive light, despite how utterly silly some of the assertions about dinosaurs from back then seem, at least compared to what we know today. Your instinct to cook a gamebird dish was smart, too- of course one should be eating a dinosaur *inside* a dinosaur, though nobody at the time knew that yet, ironically.
Will definitely be trying this recipe, and sharing with some of my other friends who are interested in the field.
Also, for other potential videos on early paleontology, perhaps we could get a video on the life of Mary Anning? Few people talk about her, but she was a MAJOR influence on the field- you have her to thank for plesiosaurs, ichthyosaurs, ammonites, and a whole lot of other things. And it might be interesting to take a look at the seafood of the era, since she lived on the coasr!
When my kids were young, in the late 90s- early 2000s, we had a dinosaur video that covered Mary Anning and the dinner in an iguanodon. I just asked my daughter if she remembered this; she does not, but I was so excited because I know about this!
TOTALLY support a video of the life of Mary Anning she was a Pioneer and such Inspiration
So interesting! Thanks Max! Gravies are one of the few things Americans don't add sugar to!
I remember first learning about this from an "Eye Witness: Dinosaurs" VHS tape I used to watch over and over again as a small child.
The imagery of the first Iguanadon reconstruction and subsequent dinner party inside of it has never left me.
Early CGI that looked decent. Also the theme music totally slapped!
My kids watched that vhs every week for years!
So cool
In Louisiana now everyone is into dark rouxs and super thick sauces that are heavy cream based. People don’t realize what a simple light roux and some Beurre Manié can do especially with seafood. Or even taking garlic add some warm stock to it. Add it to a blender or food processor and add olive oil till it thickens. Then fold that into your dish in the last 5-10 minutes. Incredible results!
I love this series! I recently became widowed (June 11, 2023) after 17 years of marriage. One of the first things I bought was the tasting history cookbook and at the memorial service all the dishes will come from that book since the show makes me happy.
I'm so sorry for your loss. Sending love your way.
May your beloved spouse's memory be a blessing.
Pro-tip - if you want to see some of the Crystal Palace dinosaurs without actually going to Crystal Palace park, they briefly feature in Good Omens S1 Ep1. About 40 minutes in Warlock and his mother go for a walk in a park and you can see the dinosaurs in the background.
I love good omens !!!
And swing by Norwood Cemetary to see Mrs Beatons grave!
"An answer will oblige" could be combined with "Serve it forth" in your RSVP.
"I oblige you serve your answer forth!" Maybe toss in a "Scallywag!" at the end for artistic flare and a punctual response Max.
12:44 I wish I could have been at this party. Victorian dinosaur rap needs to make a musical comeback.
Thanks for the video, the recipe looks delicious!
If Gilbert and Sullivan had been there, they would have on the spot come up with a patter song like "I am the very model of a diner in Iguanodon"
When every recipe site wants to tell you a story before ever getting to the recipe, Max does it right, giving you the dish first so you can then listen to the history while you enjoy the meal.
A-men!!!!!!
I'm from SE London and grew up going to see the dinosaurs in Crystal Palace park! I was there recently, looks like they got a considerable grant to help preserve the statues :) Thanks for the recipe Max!
I'm so glad to hear they are taking care of the park!
As someone who did a history project about the science of paleontology, this makes me so happy. Big thanks to all the early scientists for their contributions!
This is what real innovation looks like. Always good to see the... uniqueness of Victorian cooking on this channel.
Its not that Victorian cooking is that unique its that modern cooking has become the same method of making the same 4 flavor profiles ad nauseum. Try to convince someone to eat poached chicken...good luck. Everything is browned to death, over salted, over seasoned and over complicated for no reason. Even the church social dump style recipes have gotten unnecessarily complicated. Sometimes more is just more, not better
I have a facsimile of the first edition of Mrs Beeton’s book, which my mother bought in the Seventies. The recipe that we found most amusing was Collared Pig’s Face, which was identified as a breakfast or luncheon dish. It included an illustration of a whole pig’s head on a platter. My brother’s girlfriend was creeped out by the whole idea, so naturally my mom and I had to point it out to her on more than one occasion. My family had a snarky sense of humor.
I actually wrote a ten page research paper on the crystal palace dinosaurs so I could not get here fast enough, fantastic stuff!
I love the shout out to their strategic and inviting way of educating the public. It's such a cause for celebration when people think to -- and then successfully achieve -- this goal. This is how we grow as a culture!
I feel like there are new parents in the audience with children who are Dinosaur Aficionados like Max. I’m picturing taking down notes for the next special dinner.
I knew I was like that when i was little.
Pfft, forget any kids. I'd make this for myself served on my Jurassic Park dining replica set from the film.
Dinosaurs were fascinating to me when I was a kid, but even better were oddities at dinner. I would have adored something like eight-legged roast chicken, a specialty of British-Canadian cook James Barber (he used to buy extra drumsticks and sew them onto the uncooked bird before seasoning and roasting it).
As someone who's been here since day 2 of the Garum video I remember when you had like 7k subs and then a week or two later you were getting 7k a day and then a week or two after that and you were getting 7k every few hrs and now you are at 1.77 MILLION subs. You and José have done such an amazing job! Congratulations!
"i wish to vent my rage for dining" is my new phrase for hangry
Plate Tectonics has always been a favourite subject.
When my mother first came to Canada in 1953, she started working with the Geological Survey of Canada. She got her job from John Tuzo Wilson, the geologist and geophysicist whose study and subsequent theories proved the fact of global movement of plates and the continental shifts that made him the Father of Plate Tectonics. She respected him highly. She later became a geography teacher and taught about Plate Tectonics as well as Glaciation, another favourite subject of mine.
I was thrilled to meet Tuzo Wilson in the 1970s, when he was the Director of the Science Centre in Toronto (He remembered me as a baby!)
The dinosaurs are still there! When my daughter was little, you could still get up close and personal to them, but these days they are protected by a lake and fences, and they sit in their own little islands in the lake. Great fun to visit, although my grandsons are getting a bit too old for them now. Meanwhile, gravy here in Britain is very different to that served in the USA - ours is much thinner. And a lump of sugar is a teaspoonful, not a tablespoon!
We also have thin gravy here, it is just the style and to taste often. It also usually depends upon the region of the USA.
I was wondering about the sugar...naturally, we have sugar lumps here in Australia, too :P Definitely not a tablespoon :P
I remember reading about this dinner as a kid! My favorite bit was the detail about how the nose "horn" on the iguanodon they ate in was actually a thumb spike. Knife hands!
As a writer who features dinosaurs in my works I can say that this episode is very impressive! You never cease to astonish!
Booooooooo shoehorning in self promotion
There’s something very tender and heartwarming about hearing of these scientists honoring their fallen fellow researchers on New Year’s Eve, inside an iguanadon. Drinking, writing ballads, giving speeches. It must’ve been a very cathartic night.
I have never needed any help in loving history, and yet, you persist in helping me! Thanks Max!😊👍
I Love the little invites written on a pterodactyl wing. That’s just so extra and I need that energy in my life!
As you were talking about how recent some scientific discoveries are I thought “for real, like plate tectonics,” and then that’s exactly what you said, so that was fun and a little strange. Wonderful video, as always!
I THINK the coolest thing is how well telled these stories are told by Max and his enthusiasm and passion with humor. Hes GREAT 😉
The Victorian Era has some of the coolest, yet weirdest events/food history lol. I'm glad there's records of it. Thanks for doing this video! Imagine dining in a dinosaur with 8 courses!
I get so much joy from seeing Max’s reaction to tasting the food. When he lights up you know it’s good!
Hi Max! I wanted to thank you for all the awesome content you make. I’m watching this before I leave to head to the airport for study abroad in Kazakhstan!
Have a safe trip.
Indeed
Have a great trip and good luck with your studies!
I'm only slightly older than you, and didn't learn about plate tectonics until a "rocks for jocks" geography class in college in the early 90s. The professor couldn't stress enough how this discovery would change the world. We all thought, "yeah, yeah." But he was right! Shows to listen to your professors, even in the "easy" classes. Learn something new everyday.
Reptile repast is amazing. The food and word play keep me here just as much as the history!
Thank you so much for this episode!
As a tiny child I had memorized the name of every dinosaur that had been discovered up to that point (in the early 70s). When we went to the Field Museum when I was 3 I was over the moon. I cannot believe between MY love of dinosaurs and my kid's love of dinos (and the accompanying trips to the Field for them, and the endless books we'd read together) that I've never heard this story! 💚
PS: I LOVE your shirt, I'd bought a very similar one for my kiddo when they were tiny
I wish they brought back dining inside a dinosaur, because it sounds REALLY awesome.
I have drunk cocktails beneath the Diplodocus at the Natural History Museum at an event back in the day 🦕🍸🤠
When growing up in the early 2000s my mother at the time would do this thing called Pioneer Days and we’d spend a week no electricity ⚡️ we’d cook only using a fire place an old cast iron stove it was great I loved it and homemade stove corn bread was always my favorite
When you think max finally succumbed to a click bait title… Nope, they actually dined inside a dinosaur. Where do you find these topics? Absolutely Brilliant!
I literally screamed aloud when I saw the title! Thank you, Max, for covering one of my favorite stories from science history!
Sherry is probably the key in that sauce. It bumps up a lot of sauces into "restaurant quality" that people cant make at home.
No idea how you come up with the topics but they are always brilliant! The Crystal palace dinosaurs are such an interesting bunch, maybe it's time to visit them again.
Ah, so glad to see more people take part in dinosaur appreciation month!
I didn't know this was a thing! Thank you!
5:24
100% expected "you just kind of have to wing it".
The splendor and poetically described dinner, should be the standard. WELL DONE. MAX
I would *REALLY* love to see that video on the cooking book's many errors and foibles, that is so directly up my alley.
Locally, our zoo offers a fundraising dinner and a sleepover held in the primate house, it smells amazing. I can't wait to see what direction this dino dinner goes 😬
Well where would a primate sleep in a zoo if not in the primate house?
This reminds me of the story where scientists found and tried eating Woolly Mammoth. They discovered a frozen Mammoth in 1901 Siberia near Beresovca River which was so well preserved, its meat was still pink.
Love your vids! Happy dinosaur month Max!
I didn't think that I was possible to top the combination of two of my favorite things (food and history if course), but, you've done it by adding another favorite in the form of dinosaurs!!
All that's missing is music and baby animals and you would have covered them all!!
The synchronicity of this coming out just when I needed it most! Love you, man, I always enjoy the videos
I remember reading about this dino dinner in a kid's book called Mr Fossil's Dinosaur Lessons! Super cool to hear Max discuss it in more detail!
Such a cool story! I totally understand their fascination with dinosaurs. I've never tasted game chicken, but the stew sounds awesome.
I am reminded of Scubes' THINGS YOU WISH WERE MADE UP IN RESTOS where a Customer asked 'Wots a hen?'when waiter introduced "Cornish Hen".
Wow, I'm so stoked to see a video about this! I was very, very, into dinosaurs as a kid, and very into the Victorian era as a teen/young adult, so this event is like the perfect combination of both haha. I remember having the picture of the Iguanadon dinner, as well as a photo of the Crystal Palace dinosaurs, in one or more dinosaur books as a kid. I always longs to go see the Crystal Palace dinosaurs myself, and finally got my wish a few years ago. It's remarkable how they're still standing over 150 years later!
I have long been a fan of this channel and I must say you do an excellent job of describing this sauce. It really is the invention at the core of this dish.
I was at Crystal Palace Park only last week, looking at these very sculptures! Kind of surreal to see them pop up in a cooking video.
I absolute love watching Max geek over dinosaurs. It's so adorable.
Your comments on science are fabulous. I took an introductory geology course in college in 1964. There was no mention of plate tectonics in the textbook or in the class. I heard about that earth movement over the next few years, and of course it has become well-known even to the general public. Thank you for this great video, and all of the others I have seen.
funny enough we ran this dish as a special at a restaurant that i used to work at, except that we used chicken, and lardon, as you mentioned before. we would make demi glace ahead of time and use that along with some extra butter and sherry for the sauce along with the shallots, mushrooms, etc. Far and Away my favorite dish
edit: i dont remember us serving croutons with it. but they would be excellent for soaking up any extra sauce left on the plate, and very tasty.
another edit: sorry, it's all coming back to me now. instead of a whole bird like a cornish game hen, we used airline chicken breasts. just in case people felt like trying a variation of the dish in the video.
Max's segues to his sponsorships are the smoothest of any youtuber.
One of the best videos you've done, and that's saying something because you are BRILLIANT! As a fellow dinosaur lovely, this is so up my alley. And I was recently thinking the same myself, it's incredible how recent so many integral discoveries, concepts and inventions in today's age are. Something about the concept of a dining in a recently discovered group of giant creatures for New Year's Eve is tickling me. The Victorians once again proving why they're one of the most brilliant time periods in history. Thanks for sharing as always ❤
The picture of Edward Forbes made me scream. That man was just wild and wonderful (he referred to Starfish as friends and kept slugs in his pocket...in a tin...) ❤ Amazing video as always!
I loved dinosaurs as a kid and I actually remember having a book with this scene in it.
Also want to add that the model they ate inside was incorrect in that they thought one of the toes was a nose horn.
The illustration of them all sitting in the dinosaur brought back an old memory of me and my brother as kids making up stories and he came up with a character called iguanodonatron, so I looked up iguanodon and saw that image and for years that was just what iguanodon meant to me. Great video, loved learning the history behind this.
You wouldn't imagine the hunt they had to go on for that snipe.
I was so excited to see this come across my subscription box because I just defended a dissertation with a portion relating to the Crystal Palace at Sydenham, and have delivered a talk that discussed this very dinner! Very cool seeing stuff I've studied and researched (including in the 1850s Birmingham Journal!) featured on this channel. Also, if anyone is interested in reading more about how Victorian scientists like Richard Owen (tried) reconstructed dinosaurs from small bone fossils, I'd highly recommend Show Me the Bone by Gowan Dawson!
This would have made such an awesome birthday party (regardless of age) and it's also very interesting information.
"I wish to vent my rage for dining" is a phrase I will have to use when my friends and I next meet for our monthly potluck! 😆
Nice to see this historic moment in paleontological history get some attention.
I love that you covered this. This party is one of the things I remember first when of learning about the history of paleontology as a kid. Great to get more detail about it.
I was a dino kid too. Just today I was at the museum looking at their T. Rex exhibit. It never gets old.
i'd like to see you make some typically german dishes like schweinsbraten with blaukraut and knödel
I love all episodes, but for some reason this one especially strikes my fancy and may be my top favorite yet. Also really hoping the episode on the old cookbook comes to fruition, it sounds absolutely fascinating.
Please make this a series like you did with the Titanic! It’s so fun to learn about all of this and I always wanted to know what they ate on that dinner!
Finally a recipe for me. Slightly undercooking poultry is something I'm pretty good at.
That looked amazing! And you looked like you thoroughly enjoyed it.
Not that I think you've tasted everything, but for you to say that the sauce is unlike anything you've tasted before, is quite interesting.
Thank you for bringing us new recipes, even if they do come from antiquity.
What kid doesn't like dinosaurs when they are young? I have noticed I appreciate ocean-bound ancient creatures a bit more as an adult, although that is because I have loved all things related to sea life since a young age, both ancient and modern things. Whew, this was a crazy "weird but true" story, with a delicious meal to prep up alongside. Thanks for the video, Max.
Maybe I'm just too much of a nerd for Victorian morbidity, but this made me wonder how many Victorians sat in a sarcophagus to consume their powdered mummy supplements. It had to happen, right? You could do a whole shorts series on Regency/Victorian Inedibles to cover the many things they ate that it's just not safe for you to recreate. Antimony is one of my favorites to explain to people because it's just so buckwild.
1:40 I have a copy of that same book in my living room, given to my English great-grandmother on her 18th birthday in January 1905.
Hey Max, be careful with that book in 1:45 . Sometimes in the 19th century they used arsenic to make green colors for book cover. In fact, the only books I need to wear gloves in the archive are bright colored 19th century books because they can be literal poison. Not saying that book is dangerous, just telling you just in case!! great work anyways
1880 is well past the height of arsenic dyes, but sadly the synthetic dyes that followed weren’t non-toxic either, so it’s probably best to be careful.
He should take his own advise. He talked about bad green dye in one of his videos.
I love your enthusiasm about this dinner! I love watching your videos. I had to chuckle when you said that the food tasted expensive.
Max, I do wish you'd covet the history of gingerbread, and how it evolved from a confection that was basically licorice, to the gingerbread we knew today (likely from Dutch & German influence in the USA) I'd like to see you try your hand at making decorative/molded gingerbread confections ❤
Yes please!🤤
Omg I've always been fascinated with the dinner on the Iguanodon at the Cristal Palace and now you make a video about it!
The life of Waterhouse Hawkins goes even beyond that dinner. He tried to recreate his success in New York, but he had a run-in with Boss Tweed. The Crystal Palace dinosaurs remain where they stood, and you can still see them at Crystal Palace Park today.
At 5:27, I agree.
Even as just a Home Chef, one of my favorite sayings is "Baking is a Science, Cooking is an Art."
I'm okay at both, but I've been baking for longer (Literally I made a Pumpkin Pie when I was 6 years old) but the best non-baking cooking I could do back then was spaghetti or mac-and-cheese.
Now, I make chilli that's spicy enough to kill someone.
Very Victorian, and very whimsical. Perfect!
Long time fan first time caller. How many book reports did you deliver as a kid that were impeccably organized but contained a floor show.
Grats as always for the empire you have created.
That fifteen minutes thing had me imagining Mrs. Beeton one handing a cast iron wok over a jet burner.
I am an Asian in Malaysia n i had read of the famous Mrs Beeton's Cook book