Happy to be of help! :) TH-cam has been lacking a solid knowledgebase on how to collect ancients the right way, and Im working to fill this gap so we all can enjoy this marvellous hobby!
Excellent and practical information. I am currently the proud owner of 15 ancient coins, but expect my collection to grow more rapidly in 2023. Found a velvet-lined glass-topped case on Amazon as well as silica gel packets. I have one inside the case now. I notice you have paper under some of the coins with the coin’s data. Do you use an archival printer paper? What ink do you use? I understand some ink is acidic.
I know this is an old video but i've been looking for albums put cant find any good pvc free ones that will be able to store those flaps. Could you tell me what one you have I would really appreciate it.
I use a combination of non-PVC coin flips and those plastic coin capsules with the styrofoam (or whatever that soft material is) circles that come with them to store my ancients. Still experimenting with what works best for me in that regard, but those two have worked quite well so far for me. Eventually, I do want to get proper coin trays like the ones you showed with the red velvet and whatnot.
Thank you so much for your videos, I am watching all of them carefully. I store my coins inside saflips. They are stored standing one behind an other on a saflip box. As they are touching one an other stored there it drives me a bit crazy, do you think that the coins could be damaged if they touch one another even with the layers of saflip plastic or am I becoming too paranoid. Also I was thinking getting them on trays and inside drawers that I will make, should I be careful for the type of wood I will choose and also are velvet trays of lighthouse good quality or you have an other brand you would propose? Lastly I would like them to be free out of the saflips directly to the trays, but I feel that they are too exposed, should I stop worrying?
Dont worry, a nice storage box where each coin is in its own flip is good enough! No, they wont constantly rub against eachother, and the plastic gives good protection! Lighthouse and Beumer are pretty great. As far as wood goes, try to go for Mahogany, the older, the better. I keep my own coin on trays, inside a case. Just keep a couple of silica gel packs in these close to them if you live in humid climates and you should be all set. Remember to handle them with clean, dry hands
Being new at this, I have some antique wooden letter print trays with pre-divided sections perfectly sized for coins. Any concern with a reaction between wood and ancient coins
Yes. There are some particular woods that are better for the storage of coins, like Mahogany. In any case, its never good for the coins to be in direct contact with wood. It is better to have a small felt pad or some fabric between the coin and the wood.
I know you said that you wouldn't drop any product names, but I was wondering if you would be able to tell me the brand/type of box (black and silver with the removable felt trays) its exactly what I'm looking for but can't find seem to find it.
Im publishing a video about slabs soon. Despite some drawbacks, it is undeniable slabs do offer some good degree of protection. I do not know if the slabs protect against the humidity of the environment, but definitely a couple of packs of silica are very cheap and give you a clear head in regards to humidity :)
Hola Leo, ¿crees que bandejas de PVC cubiertas de terciopelo suponen algun problema, si el plástico no esta en contacto con las monedas? Muchas gracias,
No they do not. Once closed the coin is very nicely tucked in between the plastic sheets, preventing any movement. Also, the plastic is very smooth, so it doesnt offer any risk.
they're not pure like modern silver bullion so likely not a problem, but like he mentioned a nice dry area not a damp basement and they should be completely fine.
If they’re still stored in favorable conditions they’ll be completely fine, although they may still slowly tarnish over time. However, tarnish won’t destroy the coin, and in some cases it can really accentuate the details.
I have been keeping my coins in cheap album like you showed. I am afraid it must contain PVC. I have ordered a replacement as you suggested in your video. Should I be concerned about the coins I stored in this album (for about 1 year)? Let me add that the coins look fine.
Normally the damage is done after a period of years left in such albums. A single year shouldn't damage them, so unless you see visible anomalies on the coin's surface, your coins are fine.
This will depend on the auction house. The best thing, to be sure is to simply send them an email asking. In any case, to be 100% sure, just buy a pack of 100 saflips, these arent expensive, should last you for a long time and you can rest easy that the flips are safe.
@@ClassicalNumismatics Thank you so much. I've only really begun collecting seriously for a few months but I'm definitely making up for lost time. Better late than never. Your videos have been helpful and I'm in Italy so I'll be seeing you for sure this new year.
6:52 Wow a coin from my country, empire of Brasil. Thanks for the Video I collect many coins from the brazilian Empire and I really would like to get into medieval coins but they are very rare here and very expensive, most of the ones you find are from Europe or the US and the shipping is almost twice the value of the coin
Im originally from Brazil and yes, its an absolute hell for Brazilian collectors to get into collecting anything foreign, sadly. Correios will just make your coins disappear.
@@ClassicalNumismatics bah Kkkk que legal ver um brasileiro representando tao bem o conteúdo numismatico no TH-cam, parabens pelo teu canal, eu sou gaucho Kkkk Uma hora poderia fazer um video falando como começou a colecionar e tal, ia ser muito legal
@@ClassicalNumismatics manoooo isso q eu chamo de plot twist kkk vc fala inglês muito bem, parabens! Ainda estou aprendendo. Gosto muito do seu canal, conteúdo de qualidade! Também sou apaixonado por essas moedas antigas, em especial as gregas. Um grande abraço!
@@ClassicalNumismatics Na verdade eu tenho uma dúvida sim, eu queria adicionar um hekte à minha coleção, achei um por uns 6 mil no mercado livre mas como comecei à pouco tempo nas moedas estrangeiras não sei se esse preço está bom, oq o senhor acha ?
Nao acho boa ideia comprar no Mercado Livre, principalmente se vc nao sabe autentificar por vc mesmo. Compra numa numismatica que te ofereca garantia vitalicia ou em uma casa de leiloes no Biddr
There are a wide range of cell sizes available for coin trays, for example 59 mm x 59 mm (15 cells in a tray measuring 33.5 cm x 22.0 cm) which is good for larger medals up to 2.25" in diameter; 49 mm x 49 mm (24 cells per tray) which is good for crowns and silver dollars; 32 mm x 32 mm (54 cells per tray) which is good for US half dollars and larger diameter tetradrachms; 24 mm x 24 mm (77 cells per tray), in which US quarters fit a bit tightly, but denari & antoniniani fit comfortably. These examples are for Abafil coin cases. When ordering these cases, one can often order two half trays in place of any single tray. This costs a bit more, but gives greater flexibilty in the range of sizes and numbers of coins that you can fit in a given coin case.
I would counter that it is totally fine to clean your own coins. Soaking them in Distilled Water or Acetone are pretty much the safest thing you can do to a coin. Obviously, don’t grab a thousand dollar coin and try that to begin with that but the process of learning is easy and quick, and I think the collector is better off with the ability to clean his/her coin when they desire to do so
Acetone is safe on pure silver and gold, but with base metals there are some things of note. It can for example react with copper and light to cause purple toning. You'll also want to know how to bathe the coins to avoid unnecessarily breathing in the fumes and how to dispose of the acetone. The acetone should also be the pure stuff. Simple things, but good to read up on first. Distilled water is generally safe, but again with base metals there are some things to note such as proper drying. The distilled water is also usually combined with other methods such as mechanical cleaning. Incidentally base metal coinage is what a new hobbyist is most likely going to be cleaning. I wouldn't want anyone cleaning their ancient coins without reading up on some very very basics. Practice on cheap uncleaned coins can also be a fun and interesting way to get started.
5:41 The one on the right is a Samanid coin. I have one quite similar.
Nice to see your videos Thanks for your Time and Effort, This Video is Excellent
Happy to be of help! :) TH-cam has been lacking a solid knowledgebase on how to collect ancients the right way, and Im working to fill this gap so we all can enjoy this marvellous hobby!
Excellent and practical information. I am currently the proud owner of 15 ancient coins, but expect my collection to grow more rapidly in 2023. Found a velvet-lined glass-topped case on Amazon as well as silica gel packets. I have one inside the case now.
I notice you have paper under some of the coins with the coin’s data. Do you use an archival printer paper? What ink do you use? I understand some ink is acidic.
VERY INFORMATIVE SIR . THANK YOU FOR SHARING.
Ok got it 👍🏽
Thanks for the great content once again!
In my experience, I think Hartbergers are the best choice for coin storage. It's Cheap and it seals it from oxygen which is good in the long run.
Thats interesting, I'll look into it too. Thanks for the tip :)
I use them for my denarii. Oxygen and silver are a bad combination and I really wouldn't want to clean them.
I know this is an old video but i've been looking for albums put cant find any good pvc free ones that will be able to store those flaps. Could you tell me what one you have I would really appreciate it.
On my video description I generally have some links for suggested products. I like the Lighthouse brand, they make albums and cases.
I use a combination of non-PVC coin flips and those plastic coin capsules with the styrofoam (or whatever that soft material is) circles that come with them to store my ancients. Still experimenting with what works best for me in that regard, but those two have worked quite well so far for me. Eventually, I do want to get proper coin trays like the ones you showed with the red velvet and whatnot.
examples please, i need thing non pvc
Thanks!
Thank you so much for your videos, I am watching all of them carefully. I store my coins inside saflips. They are stored standing one behind an other on a saflip box. As they are touching one an other stored there it drives me a bit crazy, do you think that the coins could be damaged if they touch one another even with the layers of saflip plastic or am I becoming too paranoid. Also I was thinking getting them on trays and inside drawers that I will make, should I be careful for the type of wood I will choose and also are velvet trays of lighthouse good quality or you have an other brand you would propose? Lastly I would like them to be free out of the saflips directly to the trays, but I feel that they are too exposed, should I stop worrying?
Dont worry, a nice storage box where each coin is in its own flip is good enough! No, they wont constantly rub against eachother, and the plastic gives good protection! Lighthouse and Beumer are pretty great. As far as wood goes, try to go for Mahogany, the older, the better.
I keep my own coin on trays, inside a case. Just keep a couple of silica gel packs in these close to them if you live in humid climates and you should be all set. Remember to handle them with clean, dry hands
Being new at this, I have some antique wooden letter print trays with pre-divided sections perfectly sized for coins.
Any concern with a reaction between wood and ancient coins
Yes. There are some particular woods that are better for the storage of coins, like Mahogany.
In any case, its never good for the coins to be in direct contact with wood. It is better to have a small felt pad or some fabric between the coin and the wood.
I know you said that you wouldn't drop any product names, but I was wondering if you would be able to tell me the brand/type of box (black and silver with the removable felt trays) its exactly what I'm looking for but can't find seem to find it.
Leuchtturm (lighthouse in the US)
@@ClassicalNumismaticsThanks so much!
Good thing I get my coins slabbed so I have less to worry about. I may need to buy silica coin gels though for the humid summertime.
Im publishing a video about slabs soon. Despite some drawbacks, it is undeniable slabs do offer some good degree of protection.
I do not know if the slabs protect against the humidity of the environment, but definitely a couple of packs of silica are very cheap and give you a clear head in regards to humidity :)
Great video. I personally use acid free paper flips for them but I really like your stacked tray. Whats the brand of that one?
Glad you liked it! Its a Lindner coin case.
@@ClassicalNumismatics Thanks! That's where I just ordered some (1000) paper envelopes from! Will have to look at cases for my next order. Thanks!
@@ClassicalNumismatics can u send me the exact link to get it :) btw i love your content
@@mwenvo4292 Its on the video description :)
@@ClassicalNumismatics :) which one and can you please give me link to the coin album and flips :)
Hola Leo, ¿crees que bandejas de PVC cubiertas de terciopelo suponen algun problema, si el plástico no esta en contacto con las monedas? Muchas gracias,
Si, esta bien!
Do 2x2 plastic flips cause rubbing wear to ancients?
No they do not. Once closed the coin is very nicely tucked in between the plastic sheets, preventing any movement. Also, the plastic is very smooth, so it doesnt offer any risk.
Are silver coins exposed to air a problem? I have some Roman silver coins and worried about their exposure to air.
they're not pure like modern silver bullion so likely not a problem, but like he mentioned a nice dry area not a damp basement and they should be completely fine.
If they’re still stored in favorable conditions they’ll be completely fine, although they may still slowly tarnish over time. However, tarnish won’t destroy the coin, and in some cases it can really accentuate the details.
I have been keeping my coins in cheap album like you showed. I am afraid it must contain PVC. I have ordered a replacement as you suggested in your video. Should I be concerned about the coins I stored in this album (for about 1 year)? Let me add that the coins look fine.
Normally the damage is done after a period of years left in such albums.
A single year shouldn't damage them, so unless you see visible anomalies on the coin's surface, your coins are fine.
@@ClassicalNumismatics thank you sincerely for your quick answer. All the best to you sir.
Are the plastic flips my coins arrive in from auctions safe for long term? They don't seem like that soft PVC. Thank you
This will depend on the auction house. The best thing, to be sure is to simply send them an email asking.
In any case, to be 100% sure, just buy a pack of 100 saflips, these arent expensive, should last you for a long time and you can rest easy that the flips are safe.
@@ClassicalNumismatics Thank you so much. I've only really begun collecting seriously for a few months but I'm definitely making up for lost time. Better late than never. Your videos have been helpful and I'm in Italy so I'll be seeing you for sure this new year.
What is the coin at 0:46 ? It's gorgeous!
Its a Byzantine follis of Leo VI, also known as "Leo the Wise". Its a pretty common coin!
6:52 Wow a coin from my country, empire of Brasil. Thanks for the Video I collect many coins from the brazilian Empire and I really would like to get into medieval coins but they are very rare here and very expensive, most of the ones you find are from Europe or the US and the shipping is almost twice the value of the coin
Im originally from Brazil and yes, its an absolute hell for Brazilian collectors to get into collecting anything foreign, sadly.
Correios will just make your coins disappear.
@@ClassicalNumismatics were you born in Brazil?
@@vitorb.macarthy348 Carioca da gema :)
@@ClassicalNumismatics bah Kkkk que legal ver um brasileiro representando tao bem o conteúdo numismatico no TH-cam, parabens pelo teu canal, eu sou gaucho Kkkk
Uma hora poderia fazer um video falando como começou a colecionar e tal, ia ser muito legal
I've heard non-plastisized PVC is better than regular PVC or doesn’t harm the coins like regular PVC is that true?
All PVC seems to damage coins, it would be best to avoid all its varieties
6:44 hey bro, nice to see you have a brazilian coin !
Sou brasileiro :)
@@ClassicalNumismatics manoooo isso q eu chamo de plot twist kkk vc fala inglês muito bem, parabens! Ainda estou aprendendo. Gosto muito do seu canal, conteúdo de qualidade! Também sou apaixonado por essas moedas antigas, em especial as gregas. Um grande abraço!
Um grande abraco! :)
Se precisar de ajuda com moedas antigas, so perguntar
@@ClassicalNumismatics Na verdade eu tenho uma dúvida sim, eu queria adicionar um hekte à minha coleção, achei um por uns 6 mil no mercado livre mas como comecei à pouco tempo nas moedas estrangeiras não sei se esse preço está bom, oq o senhor acha ?
Nao acho boa ideia comprar no Mercado Livre, principalmente se vc nao sabe autentificar por vc mesmo. Compra numa numismatica que te ofereca garantia vitalicia ou em uma casa de leiloes no Biddr
I have a coin cabinet from coins and more italy
Its a very good brand, I might consider them in the future for my own cabinet :)
@@ClassicalNumismatics There some for reasonable prices mine was around $500 after shipping. It takes a bit of shipping between Italy and the US.
So the storage box you show at 07:30 ... what is the maximum size of coin ( mm ) that can fit inside the individual squares? Just curious.
There are a wide range of cell sizes available for coin trays, for example 59 mm x 59 mm (15 cells in a tray measuring 33.5 cm x 22.0 cm) which is good for larger medals up to 2.25" in diameter; 49 mm x 49 mm (24 cells per tray) which is good for crowns and silver dollars; 32 mm x 32 mm (54 cells per tray) which is good for US half dollars and larger diameter tetradrachms; 24 mm x 24 mm (77 cells per tray), in which US quarters fit a bit tightly, but denari & antoniniani fit comfortably.
These examples are for Abafil coin cases.
When ordering these cases, one can often order two half trays in place of any single tray. This costs a bit more, but gives greater flexibilty in the range of sizes and numbers of coins that you can fit in a given coin case.
@@charleshash4919 could u send the link or tell me how to find it"
I have an old coin and I don't know what kind it is and how much it is worth so please I need help ?
is that red trays Abafil? Looking fora good quality product, sick of cheap Chinese stuff
These are lighthouse trays, but Abafils are great trays as well, I highly recommend both brands
@@ClassicalNumismatics I've been using lighthouse/lechtrumm products for years and I see those trays are cheaper than abafil.
I would counter that it is totally fine to clean your own coins. Soaking them in Distilled Water or Acetone are pretty much the safest thing you can do to a coin. Obviously, don’t grab a thousand dollar coin and try that to begin with that but the process of learning is easy and quick, and I think the collector is better off with the ability to clean his/her coin when they desire to do so
Acetone is safe on pure silver and gold, but with base metals there are some things of note. It can for example react with copper and light to cause purple toning. You'll also want to know how to bathe the coins to avoid unnecessarily breathing in the fumes and how to dispose of the acetone. The acetone should also be the pure stuff. Simple things, but good to read up on first.
Distilled water is generally safe, but again with base metals there are some things to note such as proper drying. The distilled water is also usually combined with other methods such as mechanical cleaning. Incidentally base metal coinage is what a new hobbyist is most likely going to be cleaning.
I wouldn't want anyone cleaning their ancient coins without reading up on some very very basics. Practice on cheap uncleaned coins can also be a fun and interesting way to get started.
sniff old coins are dangerous?