Did Ukraine Sell A Patriot Missile System to China?
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Based on a number of factors, the Twitter/X account "AlternatNews" is not being truthful about the nature of the "Patriot launcher" in the suspected photo.
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Based on:
Dual Wheels.
Lack of a generator.
A different light structure.
Strange cabling.
Flimsy outriggers.
The equipment in this picture is likely a "VISMOD" or visual modification used for a movie or PLA training.
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Based on a number of factors, the Twitter/X account "AlternatNews" is not being truthful about the nature of the "Patriot launcher" in the suspected photo.
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Based on:
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Great commentary on already good live analysis, Ryan! Just what happened to the original upload? Some "Beijing guy" geolocated the footage in the comments there and another one claimed someone on Chinese social media has claimed "responsibility" of his company making this Patriot movie prop. I bet with more efforts someone (ex.g. @SerpentZA) could track him down, but i have enough evidence in the right order to believe this version.
P.S. Kremlimbots, don't bother to pull another one (like in the original) in these comments, this is done.
Dexter had a signature Henley, Dorkster has a signature robe.
For a moment I thought it was an AI generated image, but there would be more mistakes if it was.
When are you going to do a shirt for us Marines???
I thought Russia already destroyed 27 out of 5 or so we sent
This is a ghost of one of the imaginary launchers.
Weak minds believe weak fakes by week Russian and Chinese Trolls
34 not 27 out of 5
ghost of Kiev sold this to Russia, so Russia stops grinding the N A Zi's
Yeah, but that still leaves 6 out of the original 5. Plus the 1 in China...
Next: "Ukraine sells donated Ford-class aircraft carrier to Russia." I mean, why not, it's just about as believable as the typical Russian/Chinese propaganda.
Would be a good idea thought, if they got one thier whole defence budget would go to figure it out and then try to keep it afloat. It would sink within 5 years of them taking it over:D
Just don't forget, US and everyone else for that matter, have propaganda. It's just that in US they call it "public relations" look it up
@@kullenberg83I agree that it is definitely a better idea IDEA THOUGHT than yours.
you're talking about the most corrupt country in the world (ukraine) , considered so pre 2014 anyway if u look at articles... can imagine a lot of shit can slip through the cracks in a losing war with too little manpower
@@sharki9876 No, the most corrupt country in the world is Somalia. Edit: blatant misinformation that's easy to check.
“If something makes you feel emotional, think before you share it.” - everyone needs to listen to that.
That should be on load screen of all social media apps
right, EVERYONE
@@Leah-ju8htYou use an American app to talk down on America pretending to be American and a “patriot” that hates “leftys” when youre from russia
Especially if it comes from russia, china or in this case a very biased "anti-imperialist" or bot.
Facts
What’s sad to me is this is literally too absurd to even consider, no explanation required, and yet many people were undoubtedly convinced by it.
Is it really that absurd to think one of the most corrupt countries in Europe would have corruption in it???
What's sad to me is that even after stories like this are debunked, some people STILL choose to believe it. Smh..
The fact it sounds so absurd may even make the gullible and less intelligent believe it even more.
Ukraine doesn’t have enough for their own defense, they sure are not going to sell one
Corruption $
You never know man, there are corrupt people in every country.
If anything, they'd be buying Chinese anti air. If China was selling. Which they aren't.
@@FoogleBoogle nowhere near what the Russians claim
@@FoogleBoogle we're corrupt, but aid is monitored by both our own officials and Western officials - if a Ukrainian government official was caught stealing from that aid they'd be thrown in jail quicker than you can exhale.
The fact that people still entertain any information as being accurate coming from Russian/Chinese/Iranian sources is hilarious
That is not entirely true. They also fall for North Korean and Saudi propaganda.
The power of wanting to believe it. The confirmation bias is strong in these dimwits.
Most people don’t have a clue where their news is sourced from.
I definitely believe whatever comes from the west😅
@@jasonz2736"Russia isn't planning to invade Ukraine, the West is just being hysterical." Or how about Iran's "No, we didn't shoot down Flight 752, it was just mechanical failure?"
FYI, Germany already sent 2 Patriot batteries and is in the process of sending the 3rd Patriot battery! The US just sent 1!
True, but Big Daddy America will most certainly have a close eye on those as well, and won't hesitate the "void the warranty" with the help of little green men, if it seems to fall in the wrong hands.
also note that germanys patriots are mounted on a different vehicle and not on a trailer
Well, Germany is in Europe, and a NATO allied.
It have zero, zip to do with what USA have sent or not.
Logistics however.
TBF Germany is much much closer to the front line of this war.
Patriot batteries are expensive to move. The US is sending different much needed supplies that are easier to transport, AKA Himars missiles, mortor rounds, etc.
And either China would make a big show out of having a patriot, or it would try it's best to keep it a secret. Not moving it around the country during daytime at the back of a trailer with not even a tarp thrown over it. And with little to no escort.
“First off, inert” has to be one of the greatest openings to a debunking of all time.
Yes, it's the training model of the launcher.
@@DIREWOLFx75 It's not a Patriot launcher at all. It's either some foreign MLRS converted to look like a Patriot or just a complete mockup built from ground up.
@@Wallyworld30 Uh, have you taken leave of your senses? Do you actually have any idea of what those "foreign MLRS" LOOKS LIKE?
Well no, you obviously do not or you wouldn't come up with such a mentally challenged idea.
Do you even have a clue how utterly rare trailer-absed MLRS are?
I'm quite wellversed on the subject and i still had to search to find ANY.
The only one i can find is the Jobaria from UAE. And it is basically a truck that has a supergiant oversized absurdly long trailer with 4 launchers mounted one after another and a total of 240 tubes. As a replacement for 6 Grad MLRS to reduce manpower requirements.
And there also isn't any "foreign" SAM systems that looks like Patriot.
Either they're completely different launch packs, or they're NOT mounted on a trailer(again, not normal), because most other makers of SAMs wants them to be NOT taking an hour or two to set up after reaching their location of operation.
"or just a complete mockup built from ground up."
And why would a mockup be made based on the training version of the Patriot launcher?
Why would it do anything that ended up with it being completely unharmed, but still have flat tires?
@@DIREWOLFx75 Take your meds
"Okay, radical"
"tell us more about your radicalisation
and being noble about it."
"I bet you react to any criticism"
"I'm Noble about my claims, but you seek to steal and spread negativity, because you're negative and wrong"
I love how there are open source photos of Patriot, but they still missed so much in their mockup.
They probably didn't create the mockup specifically for disinformation purposes. The Russian disinformation campaigns spend more time finding already existing images and add fake context to it. It obscures their involvement and makes it look more legitimate if it looks like it came from a random person online.
Propaganda is aimed at the unintelligent.
@@BeerLeagueGoalieGodfather That's why it works so well on trump cultists.
I think a lot has to do with budget constraints. If this is a movie or military exercise prop, they're going to find the closest garbage truck or similar ready made platform and just make some cosmetic changes - not hand-make a total replica - which would exceed the cost of the original.
Along the lines of your point, beyond the fake (in the context used) photo, I'm bugged by the use of the word "reengineering" instead of "reverse engineering". At least making a proper (knowable) eqpt replica would cost major coin. What's the excuse for using the wrong word?
Keep in mind the vehicle in question was probably not put together for the purpose talked about in the video. It's more likely to be something a Chinese movie company had fabbed for a prop, or as a prop intended to be used for training purposes. Hence things like the 'Inert' markings.
The fact that "INERT" is painted on the side is also sort of a giveaway.
the amount of people that shared this without stating a single source was scary, bless you for embarrassing these people once again🙏🙏
People are sheep
Best advise I have ever heard on the internet! "If something makes you emotional, think before sharing."
If you don't, then you are the pawn and others are moving you across the board. Others being foreign countries.
I wish I saw this advice years ago. Thank you for sharing!
They know that this doesn't happen often
Or your own country. The West makes propaganda too.
@Ryan McBeth • Ryan: I'm one of your viewers that doesn't like the time commitment of a live stream. Consequently, I really appreciate your taking the time to make this separate video for those of us who didn't see the stream.
Slava Ukraini. Heroyem Slava.
💪🇺🇦🕊🌻
Agreed. I see the value in following along real-time but I do prefer to watch an edited version so I can crack on with other stuff
As an Aussie, most streams happen at night for me.
@@stupich5868 yes clock difference are a factor
I hate those idiots that lie to us or are stupid and repeat lies. Good job Ryan.
To be fair, it was just a report on a claim/rumor. The post literally says "purports" and "suspected". There's nothing passed off as actual fact.
@@WolfHeathen But someone went to considerable time and effort to convince us about "corruption" I wonder, who would do that?
Are they hoping Ukraine pulls a War Thunder Forums move and goes nah-ah, here are our systems?
No , the suggestion that Ukraine would sell the patriot system to China is absurd,
Nope
It's a success when the oppostion can plant that seed of doubt in one's mind. Some minds are easier to be seeded than others.
Truth doesn't really matter. There's always going to be a ton of people who believe the lie (ie Flat Erf, Moon hoax, Area 51,...) EVEN when the claims have been debunked!
idk walt
Imagine how many workers would be involved at a port to load such a thing onto a ship to China, and you think not one would ring an alarm bell why the systems that are supposed to protect their people are being shipped off?
If the Chinese wanted to study the system, it'd be much easier and more covert to invite some of their specialists to Ukraine rather than having to explain to Western allies how one has become unaccounted for.
@@nikolauz3162 here is your copium pill 💊 .
HLC and Ryan Mcbeth collab? this is the greatest crossover of all time.
Ryan's connected like you wouldn't believe... 😎
Idk....it's certainly great but HLC & The Fat Electrician certainly keep your attention
@@russmarasheski7005 Honestly Fat Electrician and Ryan would be my big for the best team up. Both good at research.
I spoke this into existence on his YT mistake video. 😂 💀
The plot deepens
This is a target dummy made to verify autonomous attack ammunitons to track and engage said systems. You use these in field testing "smart/autonomous" weapons. Nothing unusual.
that makes sense too! i assumed it was a film prop
@@kitsunekaze93film prop won’t have “inert” painted on the side
Chinese lying about stealing stuff?! This is poetic! 😂😂😂
So you're telling me, with a straight face, that "Raw Egg Nationalist" might not be the most truthful poster out there?
Lmfao regarding that tweet, what the fook is a switchback missile
Hahaha.
Not hard to disprove. How would they transport to China. I know are bases I served at, they lock a base down for one missing rifle. No one got dismissed until all was accounted for. We got stuck in Panama for a missing M60.
Not everyone has as a finely tuned BS-meter. Especially when it comes to certain things. Everyone, to some extent, believes some silly thing because it played into some bias we have. Washington with the cherry tree and all that. The important thing is understanding when you are wrong and been fooled and changing your opinion. It's not just the Russians out there shoveling the equine excrement so being critical of every smoking gun scandalous factoid floating around out there and doing at least some homework on it's truthfulness then following up on it later to see if new information emerged that perhaps changed it's meaning is the most sensible way to go about things. Most of this hit-and-run twitter nonsense does not survive that level of basic scrutiny.
"We got stuck in Panama for a missing M60."
Of course you did, it belong in a museum!
Yeah but you're not the second most corrupt country in europe after russia.
as for how, a russian dude literally flew his military helicopter over to ukraine and deserted.
@@nonyabisness6306that helicopter example isn’t the best example you could have used, as the pilot was right next to the border of Ukraine, you know what with him being a Russian in Russia, which is right next to Ukraine, there are several countries between China and Ukraine which makes it far more difficult to smuggle something like a patriot system out of Ukraine to China.
@@nonyabisness6306Fk your disinfo, Ivan. Since the start of the war Ukraine has been rocketing up the accountability stats. It now stands 34 places above Russia. I would trust Ukraine over Armenia 365.25 days of the year.
HLC and Ryans MacBeth was not a combination I was expecting, but is a powerhouse we need to fight disinformation.
You’d have to be pretty incapable of critical thought to believe this.
Love to see the anti-disinformation. Great job helping make the internet a place of knowledge rather than lies!
Commenting for engagement
Not that surprising honestly. The US also has S-300 mockups that it trains with. In fact I think there was a similar incident last year where people thought that a training mock up in the US was a captured unit.
Even better was the column of armoured vehicles with blue and yellow flags spotted outside Moscow that damned near gave Muscovites heart attacks. The average Russian knows the government is lying to them, so the response was "I didn't think it was going that badly."
Unfortunately, the war wasn't actually going *that* badly. Eventually someone explained it was a for a movie about the war.
I remember during Desert Shield they had "half SCUDs" (mock missiles split from nose to tail) on flatbed trailers. they used them to train pilots to look for missiles. someone got a pic of it and tried to pass it off as an "disassembled missile being transported in the US to do a sneak attack!"
as if a missile would be split in half nose to tail, and a sneaky missile would be on a flatbed with no tarp on it or other camoflage...people will believe anything,
anyone else remember "tacomars"? stickers. placed on the back of roadsigns. that supposedly were used to direct an "russian invasion" where hospitals and helicopter landing zones were. because Russians didn't know what a map was. or something.
@@warhorse03826 Considering the Feb/March 2022 blunders they really went to war with no maps, apparently.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD yeah we had idiots peeling stickers off roadsigns all over america through the 90's
"The US also has S-300 mockups that it trains with."
Yeah, but does USA make mockups of the TRAINING models? I can already tell you that no they don't.
The one on the picture is a Patriot TRAINING launcher. You connect it to a command simulator and use to train crews.
Thanks for the vid, I am horrible at catching your live streams and I love the recaps!
Good job doing this. Watching live streams takes way too much of my very limited time. This is excellent. Ive heard this and believed it. Thank you, gr8 job !!!
AFAIK, Ukraine has received four Patriot batteries.
This is the mock-up used at various displays over the past 15 years.
Slava Stepan Bandera
@@reload.8056 While nationalists indeed used this statement, the phrase "Slava Ukraine" is not solely tied to nationalists. Nationalists were just among the people who used the statement, similar to how "Viva la France" is not exclusive to French nationalists. I am more than sure that some nationalists used "Viva la France," but the term is not tied to French nationalists alone.
Stepan Bandera is an extremely controversial figure, even among Ukrainians. He and his group fought against the Polish, USSR, and Nazis towards the end of World War II. However, at the beginning of World War II, he and his group cooperated with Fascist Germany in exchange for the possibility of creating an independent Ukraine. It is now believed that there was no official agreement and that most likely they were deceived. The absence of an official agreement was due to the fact that Fascist Germany had an open and official doctrine known as Generalplan Ost.
The Generalplan Ost (English: Master Plan for the East), abbreviated GPO, was Nazi Germany's blueprint for the genocide, extermination, and large-scale ethnic cleansing of Slavs (Ukrainians, Poles, Russians, etc.), Eastern European Jews, and other indigenous peoples of Eastern Europe categorized as "Untermensch" in Nazi ideology. According to this official German plan, there could not be any Ukrainians or an independent Ukraine. Fascist Germany deceived and used collaborators in every country they occupied or fought. For example, you can read about Polish collaborationism during WWII or Russian collaborationism in WWII. As you can understand, according to Plan Ost, Poles and Russians also had to be removed.
However, the Russian government uses a flag that was used by Russian Fascists during WWII. In summary, if I were you, I would not mention this extremely controversial person(Stepan Bendera).
@@reload.8056 Slava Stalin
@@OutsiderLabs 🤡🤡🤡
@@reload.8056 based
I am a visual learner: words confuse, images inform.
1) Why are they are transporting this thing in broad daylight without a tarp on it?
'Secret stuff' gets transported at night, under a tarp.
2) Cables running across the back-end of launch-tubes. @6:13
If either lower tube fires, back-blast would sever the cables going to the upper tubes.
Wait. You stopped and thought? You weren't supposed to do that!
It is chained down by sub standard labor also.
Looks more like a rocket battery than a Patriot Missile Defense System.
That's it... it's being transported openly like that? It's fake.100%
If course, it is good to back this up with more and harder evidence, but yeah...There is NO way that anyone is going to be snapping any pictures of an operation this sensitive.
why would they announce it to the entire world by some shady twitter account? It would be either official or top secret, nothing in between.
Patriot batteries are as close as it gets to priceless for Ukraine. Plus they wouldn't jeopardize future aid from the US to supply something to damn china. This is silly.
They are corrupt to the bones. I cant know if its true or not, but its very possible.
@randomescu the thing is, it's far easier for a corrupt official to steal money than steal equipement (and Ukraine gets a stream of both) and it is FAR easier to divert a lot of low ticket items such as ammo, fuel or small arms, rather than dual digit major items like this which are basically tracked at all times.
I wish you to live long enough to see who the ukraineans are.
I wont argue with you, my point is: they dont deserve to be helped but they must be helped. Im not american, im romanian. My country helped them granting asilum and free pass for their export. Also with some defensive equipment.
Its alot for a small country. If you are american and you are ok with living pretty bad for helping ukraineans, its not my money, so do it. The wife of a minister entered Romania with about 30mil euros and usd in the trunk of her car. A few months ago they stoled the money given for artillery shells. I served in a communist army, i know how commanders steal everything they can.
Thank you sir as well hlc. Haven’t gotten any questions or statements about this but now I’m ready
Thanks for the more polished version I enjoy livestreams as much as the next basement dweller but a polished video has the greatness of time to reflect and focus.
This comment right here. The livestream just concluded this was fishy, but didn't go into specifics and didn't conclusively debunk it. The livestreams are interesting in figuring out the thought process but this refined video is much better for a conclusion.
Ryan is 100% correct about how well the military keeps track of weapons and other high-value items. I was a unit-level armorer for years, and not once was a high-value item, weapon, or weapon component I was responsible for lost, or stolen. I did have damaged and broken components, which happened with wear and tear over time, but the item was accounted for every time.
I had a buddy in another company who had a 1LT drop a pair of NVGs while on a training mission. The whole company walked in a line over the training area until they were found. The LT initially blamed a PFC for "losing" them, but the LTC was having none of that BS. The next time we went to the field, the LT had his NVGs attached to him with a lanyard.
Ahhh, the ole blame the private. That was rampant in my battalion as well.
Ryan might well be correct about how well the US military keeps track of its gear. The Ukrainians? Maybe not so much...
@@user-re2fl3sh2d we had a guy lose a dummy grenade, a dummy grenade. The entire company was on their hands and knees for three days in the field until it was found.
"and not once was a high-value item, weapon, or weapon component I was responsible for lost, or stolen."
While it is questionable exactly where this came from, one of the options are Ukraine.
You know, the place where the military sold both a HIMARS and a Leopard 2 to the Russian military in 2022.
And that's just that we know of.
And Ukraine was already in 2013 the most corrupt nation on Earth.
Being taken over by a USA puppet government and their pet natsiz only made things MUCH WORSE.
All that money to Ukraine? Expect at least 5-10% of it to go right back to the democratic party in USA.
Amazing how that party went from on the brink of bankruptcy in 2016 so that Hillary had to loan it the campaign money she then used up, and then got paid back with interest, to right now doing just fine, plenty of cash available in the last 2 years, fancy that eh?
@@user-re2fl3sh2d don't treat USA as a pinnacle of discipline and security. It just has the biggest amount of guns, not "the best people"
Excellent analysis. Keep up the good work
It doesn't take a dumbass to know that is a mockup. They really need to try harder to fool people
There are a LOT of crazy people on Twitter.
And one brain cell too
Nah that profile isnt one of a crazy person, its just paid enemy propagandist
Alot of Q Anon bots. We need to counter them with trthsaying bots to blunt the influence that they have over gullible people.
Yourself, Habitual Line Crosser and Chris Cappy all at one ball together. Sounds like one hell of a hangover reboot.
Hey Ryan, didnt actually knew you streamed! Definitely gunna check it out next time its on
If you can fool the internet's resident air defender for even five seconds, that's a damn good job all things considered.
Ryan and Line Crosser in the same video? This must be a dream
Not just a national treasure, Ryan McBeth is a Western treasure!
Thanks for the research and hard work. Well done, Sir! 🙏
The crossover event we've been waiting for since the first patriot video.
Two of the best teaming up! Love these guys!
I see Chinese writing and a Patriot battery, my immediate thought is that's probably Taiwan, not China. Though I can't tell from the bit of writing on the sign.
Thats what I thought, Training Mock-up for Taiwan? The background looks like the hilly terrain of Taiwan.
I believe that image was actually taken in China? AFAIK, the license plate on the truck looks like it's from China (it's typical in china to have a Chinese character and then a string of numbers). Also, below the license plate says 长车 (very blurry, assuming I read that correctly), which means 'long vehicle'. That is in simplified Chinese, which is used in China (Taiwan uses traditional Chinese)...
@@captianwinston1850 I don't know shit about reading Chinese. My point was; seeing a patriot, even if it was a real one, around Chinese signs isn't an immediate red flag to me because Taiwan. That's all.
@@captianwinston1850can confirm it's China - the license plate for the trailer is for Tianjin
I am from Taiwan, and I can assure you that the photo was taken in China.
1. There are simplified Chinese characters on the road sign and billboard, while we use traditional Chinese characters in Taiwan.
2. The white writing on the trailer reads "徐州" (Xuzhou), which is a city in northwestern Jiangsu province, China.
3. The electric scooters the two ladies are riding behind the truck are very popular in China but not in Taiwan.
4. Road signs in China use white text with a blue background, while we use green backgrounds.
As a current 14T (patriot launcher operator/maintainer), it's hilarious that they thought no one was gonna catch this. Though i guess to the everyday person it could be convincing, its just funny seeing what they could come up with. Love your videos ryan, I actually used your videos to educate myself on the job before getting it seeing as my recruiter had no idea what the hell my mos did besides showing me the video when i first signed. Fun fact, my class was the one filmed for the new 14T mos video that was put out not long ago.
I love both of you guys, I've subscribe to both channels and a daily watcher!!!
Glad to see you busting this nonesense. Please keep up the good work. May Ukraine prevail!
Дякую вам за роботу і розяснення. Без таких людей як Ви нам українцям було б дуже важко.
Без таких людей никто бы не умер . Ни одна страннее стала счастлива после так называемой помощи сша
Чому росіяни останнім часом досягли таких великих успіхів навколо Харкова?
Росіяни просто увійшли, розповідають ВВС українські військові в Харкові.
Навіть "Українська правда", націоналістична, антиросійська українська газета, повідомляє про те, що, за словами президента Зеленського, багато грошей було вкладено в укріплення.
Однак ці гроші були вкрадені і спрямовані на фіктивні компанії; ніяких укріплень взагалі не існує.
@@philipcoffman4372 stop pretending Russia didn’t exist. Putin himself wanted to join NATO.
@@SimulacronX (X)
Maybe if ur men stopped hiding from war and just do it ukraine would have won u think the usa would lose to them no because almost every american is gonna fight and not complain
Great channel.. Keep your good work up👍
Ryan McBeth and HLC the team up of the century!
I knew HLC would clear this up real quick. Thanks Ryan!
I'm so glad I met Ryan he's a great dude and so intelligent
Nice vid. Really enjoyed the notes from HLC at the end.
that part about the post making you feel emptions is so true dude. i do that everytime i look at the "news"
Having you and HLC on the same video is like having the Avengers team up.
Both of your stand alone movies are gr8, but getting to watch you team up is so much more fun.
thank you!! i was still trying to talk myself into watching the long version.
Love your content! Much appreciated, Dexter. Haha 🤣
As always, Ryan, thank you for examining this in detail. No way those of us not 'living' with a laucher could ever spot the details.
Those tanks were not Chieftain but Centurions sourced from Australia. But you were close. Keep up the great work!
I enjoyed the more polished video. The live video was a little scrappy. Good work
Just wanted to thank you for your work. It's important. And you present it so damn well. Keep it going!
Greetings from Germany. ✌️
Great analysis and thoughts. Many thanks.
The crossover I didn't know I needed. Thank you for posting.
SURPRISE MOTHERHUGGER.
Great job, and happy to see getting him explaining the system 👍🏼👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Love this video, good breakdown
The propaganda machine is tweaking 🤦♂️
Haha. Good to see the world giving you a taste of your own medicine.
Thanks Ryan, for what you do!
This thumbnail was so ridiculous I had to see where you were coming from! lol. Glad to know we are on the same page! 😅🇺🇦
Bad part is this video is pointing out mistakes which can be a learning experience and believe it or not it definitely is as sad as that sounds.
great stuff as always :)
I don't even need to know anything about the Patriot launcher to have my first reaction be an assumption that it's a Russian propaganda job. They're probably watching your breakdown though, and you can expect their next prop to look more real.
It's a Chinese training fake that they build will small details so that they can educate their recruits on spotting the US patriot missile systems
Ryan you are a real patriot..
Lol your advert cracks me up bloody hilarious 😂😂😂
Hello Ryan. I enjoy your posts and information.
My guess is this is from a Chinese movie.
It’s for AI training. All Recon and attack units like drones can study and analyze hi value targets and prioritize them.
@@babykingkong7010 Certainly possible.
PS. For God's Sakes - this is not a photo of a "Patriot" BATTERY SYSTEM! This MIGHT be just (ONE) of the storage & launch pods for the SAM's. It's just one, tiny component of (ANY) battery - and USELESS without the rest. How people can buy such idiocies?
They want to believe it because it agrees with their Biases.
Nicely analysed as usual!
What fuckin native English speaker says "this is one of the great fears" lmao
The funny thing is they Googled images for a Patriot and even printed 'inert' on the sides not knowing what it means...
"Create an EXACT copy!!!"
"Yes sir!"
Like getting a Chinese tattoo saying "honor" but it's actually "eggroll".
Germany provides most of the Patriot systems and I know that our Patriots are monitored via GPS. We pay attention to whether our systems fall into the wrong hands. So speculation about this is completely pointless
Technically speaking, one can disconnect the GPS module.
ABRAMS HAS GPS AND SOME ARE NOW ON DISPALY IN MOSCOW
@@izauzi2515and the US knew about it the second they crossed the frontline
What's your point?
@@SkywalkerPauland the US would know the second they disconnect it. Good luck transporting it a few hundred km after the US allerted the entire Ukrainian army to stop any Patriot moving
@@sjonnieplayfull5859 how would they know? Even if the signal ceases it might be a malfunction..
Good job on the debunk. I didn't see this particular one come by, but there's a flood of those kinds of videos.
Hi Ryan. Were you able to geolocate that picture to give further context to the picture and where the mockup may have been going?
Dang it... was hoping Grandpa Buff would have given that interview!
I find it hilarious that folks _still_ refer to X as Twitter, and anyone who does call it X almost always remind us it used to be called Twitter haha.
Xitter. X is pronounced as 'sh'.
Except it's twitter, and the website domain is still twitter
Musk names all his crap X. It's stupid. It's Twitter. The domain is twitter. Tweet/tweeting is in general use and has been for years. How do you X?
X is just to imprecise
This is a mock up. Knew it first time I saw this picture. China was probably using it for training purposes.
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Many people just missing the point. Considering the relationship between Russian and the Chinese. If there’s anything Russian captured that the Chinese want a piece of it. They will have it. And could be done in a secret way. People should be worried for the real purpose of it. Because it is too nicely built if it’s just a bomb target. This thing is for AI training. To let all Recon and attack units like drones can study and analyze hi value targets and prioritize them.
Could be AI trained off pictures found on google, hell they could save time just building a 3d render and make the AI look at the CGI footage as if it was real.
hell no, why should they waste money on a prop when they can just google patriot pictures?
Most likely for training, as a bomb target or smth.
@@khnelli4918 lol. You gotta be kidding me. Set up a picture in the field for your satellites and drones to search and scan? And to destroy a nicely made model which cost tens of thousands dollars just for bomb practice?very smart 😂
@@babykingkong7010 Yeah, but they'll make one for AI image training, makes total sense considering how many Images are online anyways.
+ China made an entire AIrcraft carrier model so they could bomb it, why should they not make a Patriot replica for Practice?
That launcher is NO good without its radar and its control system..
Great work, thanks.
Solid ending advertisement. I even liked Ronald in it.
For "re-engineering". Lol. It's "reverse engineering".
It's good you show us how you think, not just the conclusions
No, the aswer is no guys. Don't push eachother on the way out. Hey! No pushing I said...
My question is, do the Russians know how the system operated before you said it? What if their trying to understand the vulnerabilities within the structure...
There is a significant amount of public information about the system already, including hundreds of pictures that show everything which was wrong on this mockup
I can promise you that even if that information werent publicly available, if that were enough to give a real advantage over the system, we wouldnt be running it
First clue - the use of "Drain the Swamp"
What does that mean anyhow?
@matthewcoster5535 in short, it means remove or reduce corruption in government, specifically in DC and was a Trump 2016 slogan.
Longer version: it was a campaign slogan from Trump's 2016 campaign. DC was built in an area with a lot of swampy ground, and so referring to the political and bureaucratic corruption in DC as The Swamp is kinda a double reference. Draining the Swamp was Trump's slogan for his campaign promise to reduce bureaucratic and political corruption in DC.
I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader as to whether he attempted or made any progress in doing so. I'll also leave it to the reader to decide if any use of it is Trump related, or is simply someone latching on to a catchy slogan for a laudable goal.
@@matthewcoster5535current establishment is referred to as the swamp, and white house is filled with it, so it needs to be trained.
Originally an alt-right term, now in usage of grifters across the entire political spektrum.
@@matthewcoster5535 its pretty much "getting rid of people who disagree with us" for MAGAs etc.
@@blowbert9126 Charming.
Habitual line crosser is one of the best funniest military youtubers out there!
Is this nonsense even worth discussing?
Russian information agents rely on you for all the information you provide on how to tell what is fake and what is real. What I cannot get over is how no one is commenting on how poorly it is chained down, multiple problems with how it is chained down. You always need to tie unsprung weight down so it holds the unit, chaining to sprung weight can loose a chain. The tires are close to the bead breaking and the unit could slide around then and then you loose a chain or more, you always chain down the axle with wood or blocks under an axle if you are deflating the tire, you don't want the load to slide sideways on the beads. Obviously sub standard labor chained this down, not a real unit.
Stop all shipments if they did !