The way Hololive has embraced this game reminds me of the way they've embraced clippers. A lot of companies should be taking notes on how to treat creative fans.
Games Workshop is another repeat offender. Seems to be a wierdly big overlap in the Hololive and Warhammer fandoms, but the way those fans are treated couldn't be more different.
Could be! I'm sure (or at least I hope) that her gimmick will revolve around her ability to endlessly marathon with a smile on her face lol Some kind of scaling passive heal that gets stronger the lower her health is would be interesting.
There's a lot of items that become good given the premise that you won't get hit. Unfortunately pikipikipiiman isn't one of them. You would probably just want to use injection asacoco and/or mask instead.
it is for the most part but for certain crit characters it isn't a bad choice, you're undoubtedly gonna get hit sometime, paired with something like the body pillow or fauna's shield and you get free crit, iris benefits from crits especially. I do hope she gets a character specific buff using that item when the gamers update comes out tho
I've had Piki with Sake leveled up with mumei and if you increase her Crits along with getting her skills upgraded she melts people. Civilization is such a good skill.
Korone noticing all of these references is so cute, not only the JP ones like Noel’s milk but even the Takodaki from EN, and she is so happy to see them all
It has potential to be good for characters like Gura who can get hit without actually taking damage, allowing you to buff your crit chance whenever you want fairly safely. Also IRyS can use it fairly effectively.
Fauna too, whose skills almost entirely revolve around her constantly healing herself. Honestly any character so long as you have the Succubus' Horns item (and you're not playing on one-hit mode obv).
I run it on Kronii too, if my body pillow is high enough level. Kinda risky since it might turn off the Perfection passive but it really keeps the haste from Kroniicopter rolling. (even though sake is probably the better choice)
Honestly, after running this item on Bae, it's not that hard to get hit and survive to activate it. But I still only picked it after every other crit item on Bae. At least the run was successful.
in fairness, situationally picked is the better term because some characters can benefit from crit hits greatly and getting hit like Irys's skill being Half-Angel and Half-Devil. Sadly, its use is limited with the current roster. I hope more crit characters can be released so our doggo will be happy. That or adding crit dependent skills in the future.
@@choco699 I don't think it's for Bae though. If you upgraded all of the Bae skills it almost guarantee crit, which make that item unnecessary. In contrast, IRys need some crit chance buff to trigger her passive skills. Once IRys crit chance is high enough, she's practically immortal from her angel skill. Unless get one-shot quickly in the late game.
I like how Koronesukis just straight out says "Don't need it" lmao. For me they do have a point since you really don't want to get hit, and even if you do get hit accidentally, a 10% crit isn't much.
Yep thats the problem, if its gives 10% permanently instead of having duration thats gonna be broken. Or just increase the rate like 50% for 10s, thats sounds fair
@@guseko938 problem is, Lamy's sake has a better crit buff and relies on you not taking damage, so piman's not as good even for quick healers like Fauna and IRyS.
I made this myself, Imagine Korone having boxing based attacks. Then have a skill 'Fighter' which the more you take damage the stronger you become. *'FALCON PUNCH'*
Maybe Korone can do some extra Crit Damage compared to any other member's Crit Power. Which would make building up crit rate a good approach. Plus, likely to be a tanky close combatant. CRONCH! Right in the yubis.
Can I just say that I love Korone instantly recognized takodachi? A lot of this imagery isn't as well known on the JP side, so it kind of warmed my heart that she recognized them and knew their name. I haven't watched every JP stream of this, but she was the first I've seen do so.
Piki piki piiman is very good when paired with Sake and Body Pillow. You can get 20%+ crit if you get grazed because the Piiman gets triggered and the Sake buff remains.
well, that item actually works tremendously with iris, gura and fauna. iris has a mechanic where she gets stronger and self heals when hit, so that's great synergy (it doesn't really shine with her main attack, but collabing something together will show some good results), fauna self heals and has a shield so "getting hit" rarely hurts her, and with her strong damage output on her skills this works out ok, and gura is basically the hardest character to kill if built right thanks to her small size skill, she'll run right into mob swarms and come out the other side without dying (she also self heals with the shark bite skill, combine that with choco's horns and you've got something going)
Irrc Korone even saved doing any gacha pulls for a "next time". I can't imagine there being anything more validating or motivational for the people that are working on this than so many holomems playing and loving it.
A bit like with Okayu and Elden Ring. I remember her fighting Tree Sentinel for almost 3 hrs (in her first stream from around 4:16:00 until about 7:05:00) , which would be very frustrating for many people. I even went for groceries and she was still at it. And she continues the game after that, showing that she really enjoys the game.
This item has changed, and it is now a LOT better. It bow instead increases max hp, but it also gives a scaling attack bonus based on your total max hp (1% per 4 hp at max level). This makes it now one of the most busted items in the game, espaclly on characters with lots of hp.
It's so good on Noel especially! She already constantly builds her max HP with Gyuodon, so boosting that up further plus giving her the attack boost turns her into an absolute wall.
"weak" enough to be completely remade in future updates. Now used in Special Burst builds, which, I'm sure it's good; especially on those like that Chaos Rat
The ítem works if the character has self-healing, or some serious evade like maxed gura short height, even Kiara with her shield, but yeah, not a must get, yes, now I'm yubiless.
Aw I really hope they give Korone's item a buff when 'Gamers' get released. She'd be soooo happy if it did. Kind of surprised her item doesn't revolve around punching or exploding Koronesuki though.
Korone's item becomes better then sake the second you get deep into endless or how i like to call it 30 minute mode considering the 30 minute mark enemy those 10 really 8 minutes you are constantly getting hit so sake is off edit: it combos well with Injection Type Asacoco since you constantly take damage, all you need is good healing
Funnily enough, when she first saw it with Ame, it could've been a really strong choice lol Since one of Ame's character specific buffs is crit chance, and her main weapon hits multiple times, if you build around crits and weapons that have a lot of hits, you'll have a ton of opportunities for crits and high chance on each opportunity. If you combine the piki piki piman with the sake, whether you've been avoiding hits or just got hit, you'll have a crit bonus.
@@DragN_H3art Oh dang, I was under the assumption that piman didn't activate until the daki was gone and you lost actual HP. That's an even better combo than I thought
NIce to see Piki Piki Piman is not forgotten. But it didn't help her escape the hugs of the united takodachi Can't wait to see her play -with herself- as herself in the future.
This item is amazing for Irys, since she heals on crits, has a chance to heal on getting hit, so you are always trying to take damage so u can heal to increase your damage, adding crits on top of that is crazy
Even on Irys its garbage,because you simply crit anyway every 3 second after 10+ min. Too much hits,too much enemies,you 100% getting crits every 3 sec for skill
watch it become OP af when Gamers update comes and has a synergy with her character just like the Cutting Board does to some characters or when it collabs with "Onigiri" to become "OkaKoro".
I hope this guy adds VShojo content to the game too. Ironmouse is a *HUUUGE* Vampire Survivor addict & I'm sure she'd appreciate being in a game like that.
It is weak if DOT character instead of a crit one but it's a pretty fun item for a Leeroy Jenkins IRyS build. You just descend in the middle of the mobs and they die of hope.
It's pretty decent with Gura's dodge/regen skills to further enhance her damage multipliers, or to max out Bae's crit chance. With most builds you try to avoid getting hit though.
Honestly, I imagine that the item would end up good on Korone herself once the Gamers characters are released, but there's no telling when that's gonna happen, unless I missed a specified date of release.
I think they should talk with Cover and the Vampire survivor's team, and make this whole game into a mod or a dlc for VS, and try to go big with the game. It is amazing what has been done but this could go even beyond!
Piki Piki Piman would fit well into a moveset for Bae in HoloCure, who relies on crit chance. It's not a weak item per-se, but needs an ideal moveset(s) to work. E: Looks like IRyS also benefits from Piki Piki Piman in a skill set as well.
it depends on character and if you managed to get important stuffs first and sustain then pick sake and piki then you get easy crits nearly 1 out of 4.
Hahaha, I absolutely cracked up when she called Yagoo's statue "disgusting" without thinking. Korone's filter was definitely off there 🤣
So I've noticed, after witnessing her talking bluntly about Coco's tail~
The way Hololive has embraced this game reminds me of the way they've embraced clippers. A lot of companies should be taking notes on how to treat creative fans.
Yeah. If it was Nintendo the dev would already have a cease and desist thrown at them.
"It's free labor!"
@@jodywiggins1773 Yeah...
@@GigaDawn they're no longer selling or making money from ds era pokemon games, yet they keep whacking fan made roms smh
Games Workshop is another repeat offender. Seems to be a wierdly big overlap in the Hololive and Warhammer fandoms, but the way those fans are treated couldn't be more different.
Watch Korone's character be an edge runner where she gets stronger (and faster?) the lower hp goes - pikipikipiman only works for her lmao
Could be! I'm sure (or at least I hope) that her gimmick will revolve around her ability to endlessly marathon with a smile on her face lol Some kind of scaling passive heal that gets stronger the lower her health is would be interesting.
There's a lot of items that become good given the premise that you won't get hit. Unfortunately pikipikipiiman isn't one of them. You would probably just want to use injection asacoco and/or mask instead.
CHAINSAW WOOOOOOOW
gotta have boxer and yubis somehow
and/or ability to increase CRI rate each time getting hit ...
Poor Yagoo being called disgusting lmao
best part was that was straight from her heart. the truth out of korone without hesitation and realizing she's on stream for a second there
it's comes out naturally for her lol 😭😭😭
oh we need yagoo pillow
Have you seen the smol Yagoo? 😅
Best girl doesn't deserve this...
it is for the most part but for certain crit characters it isn't a bad choice, you're undoubtedly gonna get hit sometime, paired with something like the body pillow or fauna's shield and you get free crit, iris benefits from crits especially. I do hope she gets a character specific buff using that item when the gamers update comes out tho
I maxed that with iris along with the body pillow and the other thing wherein you pop like a bubble. She became extremely OP lol
@@rigsrm my exact thoughts, iris was the first character i succeeded in completing the stage mode and this was an essential item
its also a get out if jail free card.. boosting crit for that extra damage so you can get out of a mob
I've had Piki with Sake leveled up with mumei and if you increase her Crits along with getting her skills upgraded she melts people. Civilization is such a good skill.
@@MitchJustChill what a waste of slot dude 😂 i'd rather pick piki piki piman tho
Korone noticing all of these references is so cute, not only the JP ones like Noel’s milk but even the Takodaki from EN, and she is so happy to see them all
It has potential to be good for characters like Gura who can get hit without actually taking damage, allowing you to buff your crit chance whenever you want fairly safely. Also IRyS can use it fairly effectively.
Fauna too, whose skills almost entirely revolve around her constantly healing herself. Honestly any character so long as you have the Succubus' Horns item (and you're not playing on one-hit mode obv).
It works well with any chars just get a YAGOO pillow also it is better in endless as enemies constantly hit you beyond 25 mins mark.
Same goes for Kiara with Phoenix Shield, or basically anyone with MAX'd Ear Covers.
I run it on Kronii too, if my body pillow is high enough level. Kinda risky since it might turn off the Perfection passive but it really keeps the haste from Kroniicopter rolling. (even though sake is probably the better choice)
Honestly, after running this item on Bae, it's not that hard to get hit and survive to activate it. But I still only picked it after every other crit item on Bae. At least the run was successful.
I love Korone’s laugh. It gives me joy
I really love those "Takodachi-tachi" and "Takodachi-Tomodachi" LOL
It's a chain hug cumming for her.
Thank for the long clip and translation.
4:48 I live for these kinds of Korone burst-laughs
in fairness, situationally picked is the better term because some characters can benefit from crit hits greatly and getting hit like Irys's skill being Half-Angel and Half-Devil. Sadly, its use is limited with the current roster. I hope more crit characters can be released so our doggo will be happy. That or adding crit dependent skills in the future.
Yeah IRyS was my first thought for it because she also has a heal on hit passive making it almost like it's currently designed for her.
Bae is more of an accurate choice. She’s extremely crit heavy.
@@choco699 I don't think it's for Bae though. If you upgraded all of the Bae skills it almost guarantee crit, which make that item unnecessary. In contrast, IRys need some crit chance buff to trigger her passive skills. Once IRys crit chance is high enough, she's practically immortal from her angel skill. Unless get one-shot quickly in the late game.
Ayame, Suisei or Iroha could be a great choice for a crit based character in the future, just get some inspiration from Yasuo.
@@_pizzaboy9631
Hopefully Korone herself is a crit based chainsaw character, surely she'll synergize well with her own item.
This is god tier for IRyS. She has so much healing it doesn’t matter if you get hit. So just proc it as much as you want.
I like how Koronesukis just straight out says "Don't need it" lmao. For me they do have a point since you really don't want to get hit, and even if you do get hit accidentally, a 10% crit isn't much.
Yep thats the problem, if its gives 10% permanently instead of having duration thats gonna be broken. Or just increase the rate like 50% for 10s, thats sounds fair
@@ryanyogianto I was thinking of that too. It doesn't stack, right?
It can be leveled up for greater buffs and it stacks with Sake + Bodypillow, I believe.
@@hajime_am1 it doesn't?
@@Smartz118 Oh I see
Sadly it is, cuz generally you don't want to get hit, especially when you have the 1 hp stuff for more score in endless mode, sorry koro-san 😭
I kinda like it together with the Bodypillow, since you can stack it with the Sake bonus if you don't take dmg.
But u can use it with irys cus irys have skill that heal when take damage
I used it along with Sake, so I get the bonus regardless on whether I get hit or not (prolly not the best use for these)
@@guseko938 problem is, Lamy's sake has a better crit buff and relies on you not taking damage, so piman's not as good even for quick healers like Fauna and IRyS.
@@guseko938 True I only use it with IRyS plus dakimakura.
I do wonder if this item is gonna be particularly strong on Korone when she comes to the game
I made this myself,
Imagine Korone having boxing based attacks.
Then have a skill 'Fighter' which the more you take damage the stronger you become.
*'FALCON PUNCH'*
@@Reymax164 I could see something like that. Or the item would have some special effect on her
Or, maybe her ultimate is like a Build-up counter attack where she's invulnerable and once she gets hit enough times she explodes for major damage.
She'll have Eekum Bokum somewhere in her kit.
Maybe Korone can do some extra Crit Damage compared to any other member's Crit Power. Which would make building up crit rate a good approach. Plus, likely to be a tanky close combatant. CRONCH! Right in the yubis.
Can I just say that I love Korone instantly recognized takodachi? A lot of this imagery isn't as well known on the JP side, so it kind of warmed my heart that she recognized them and knew their name. I haven't watched every JP stream of this, but she was the first I've seen do so.
*Yagoo statue*
Korone: "Disgusting"
i love seeing so many talents enjoying the game and the references
Piki piki piiman is very good when paired with Sake and Body Pillow. You can get 20%+ crit if you get grazed because the Piiman gets triggered and the Sake buff remains.
well, that item actually works tremendously with iris, gura and fauna. iris has a mechanic where she gets stronger and self heals when hit, so that's great synergy (it doesn't really shine with her main attack, but collabing something together will show some good results), fauna self heals and has a shield so "getting hit" rarely hurts her, and with her strong damage output on her skills this works out ok, and gura is basically the hardest character to kill if built right thanks to her small size skill, she'll run right into mob swarms and come out the other side without dying (she also self heals with the shark bite skill, combine that with choco's horns and you've got something going)
Imagine saying this whole thing a month ago when the game wasn't released yet. Just funny to think about
@@brokenspacebar9628 Hololive fans speedrunning optimizing the game
@Hagane Gin I wasn't saying there weren't better strats... i was saying there is synergy there if you want it.
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Can’t get enough of how excitedly adorably she delivers that line!
Korone is such a precious puppy 🐶😊😆
Watching HoloCure clips has reminded me how cute Korone is. I wish I had all the time in the day to watch hololive
Piki piki piiman is a pissed-off pepper.
She is so genuinely happy about everything that its warming my heart every god damm time i see her.
Irrc Korone even saved doing any gacha pulls for a "next time". I can't imagine there being anything more validating or motivational for the people that are working on this than so many holomems playing and loving it.
A bit like with Okayu and Elden Ring. I remember her fighting Tree Sentinel for almost 3 hrs (in her first stream from around 4:16:00 until about 7:05:00) , which would be very frustrating for many people. I even went for groceries and she was still at it. And she continues the game after that, showing that she really enjoys the game.
HoloMem: * sees anything resembles YAGOO *
Immediate reaction: G R O S S
Sad Doggo!
AWESOME ! I didn't knew there was a game like out out there !!!!
Hopefully her yubi cutters will get added as a strong item.
This item has changed, and it is now a LOT better.
It bow instead increases max hp, but it also gives a scaling attack bonus based on your total max hp (1% per 4 hp at max level).
This makes it now one of the most busted items in the game, espaclly on characters with lots of hp.
It's so good on Noel especially! She already constantly builds her max HP with Gyuodon, so boosting that up further plus giving her the attack boost turns her into an absolute wall.
It's pretty good with Ina AO skill though... Since getting "hit" by harmless takodachi still proc the crit up
It works best in Endless runs and specifically with Irys who benefits off crit and getting hit. She can tank Yagoo for days.
You know Korone is having a good time when she monke laughs
counterpoint: Piki Piki Piman is amazing with Irys since she needs to get hit and heal then get crit chance from both item and skill
"weak" enough to be completely remade in future updates. Now used in Special Burst builds, which, I'm sure it's good; especially on those like that Chaos Rat
1:37 korone ear-raising gasp always gets me
this outro is great lmao
I really didn't care for vampire survivor... but this game really change my mind. It really goes to show that everything is better with anime waifus.
There's is a mod for vampire survivors that makes everything look like from Madoka universe. It's very anime
not just "anime waifus"; a game like this specifically because it's hololive was what got me to start this sort of genre of game
I legitimately think this game is more fun cuz of the new mechanics like specials and strafing
And Waifus
I'm probably among the minority who never considered Vtubers as "waifu" because they're more "real" than scripted anime characters
The ítem works if the character has self-healing, or some serious evade like maxed gura short height, even Kiara with her shield, but yeah, not a must get, yes, now I'm yubiless.
Our endurance doggo surely gets something like that
The item being called useless is making me feel really 🥒
Aw I really hope they give Korone's item a buff when 'Gamers' get released. She'd be soooo happy if it did. Kind of surprised her item doesn't revolve around punching or exploding Koronesuki though.
I love the way they are all enjoying the game made by fans!
3:58 thank god I'm not the only one who was thinking this
1:24. IM DEAD.
and after that the next update, they'll buff piki piki piman
*definitely not because of being threatened by korone
Korone's item becomes better then sake the second you get deep into endless or how i like to call it 30 minute mode considering the 30 minute mark enemy
those 10 really 8 minutes you are constantly getting hit so sake is off
edit: it combos well with Injection Type Asacoco since you constantly take damage, all you need is good healing
doesn't piki piki piiman proc on hit and not at damage?
@@yagoosidol6338 i assume it is on damage, this isn't something i have properly tested
If it makes you feel any better, you're a wonderful character in this game now that you're in it. Haste builds look no further!
ah kimo !!! LOL yagoo sad noise
Funnily enough, when she first saw it with Ame, it could've been a really strong choice lol
Since one of Ame's character specific buffs is crit chance, and her main weapon hits multiple times, if you build around crits and weapons that have a lot of hits, you'll have a ton of opportunities for crits and high chance on each opportunity. If you combine the piki piki piman with the sake, whether you've been avoiding hits or just got hit, you'll have a crit bonus.
if you get the yagoo daki, you can get hit with shield on and you'll have both piman and sake active
@@DragN_H3art Oh dang, I was under the assumption that piman didn't activate until the daki was gone and you lost actual HP. That's an even better combo than I thought
love our little ray of sunshine doggo, so precious
1:25.Preposterous, can't wait for her to get to the ending of the game, it will be hilarious lmao, she shall learn power of best girl 😂
"Aside from 3" That kills me HAHAHAH
1:25 🤣🤣🤣 sudden surprise slander for best girl do be funny. Cute.
"The worst thing she can say is no"
*What she says* : 1:24
Devs after seeing this clip:
Aight peeps it seems we have to make major adjustments
Just watch Korone have some sort of instant kill when she crits ability and suddenly piki piki piman will be a top tier choice
So this is just Hololive flavoured Vampire Survivor?
Basically, but with more directional abilities.
piki piki piman + sake = never ending additional crit
It's quite good for the girls who don't required to be hit, unless you are already crit caped like bae.
NIce to see Piki Piki Piman is not forgotten. But it didn't help her escape the hugs of the united takodachi
Can't wait to see her play -with herself- as herself in the future.
This item is amazing for Irys, since she heals on crits, has a chance to heal on getting hit, so you are always trying to take damage so u can heal to increase your damage, adding crits on top of that is crazy
Even on Irys its garbage,because you simply crit anyway every 3 second after 10+ min. Too much hits,too much enemies,you 100% getting crits every 3 sec for skill
LMAO when she saw Yagoo's statue "ah kimo!" 🤣
watch it become OP af when Gamers update comes and has a synergy with her character just like the Cutting Board does to some characters or when it collabs with "Onigiri" to become "OkaKoro".
It's okay, Korone. You'll be in the game yourself next update.
Korone skill: DOOG MODE!! "Pulls out Chainsaw"
I freakin lost it at the "aside from 3" xD
1:07 I plunged too deep into the goddamn horse girl gacha that I hear something else
I hope this guy adds VShojo content to the game too. Ironmouse is a *HUUUGE* Vampire Survivor addict & I'm sure she'd appreciate being in a game like that.
Piki Piki Piiman is great with IRyS Skill, paired with Asacoco Injection (a bit later on game) IRyS is practically invincible
I like the part where she says Takodachi-tachi
Piki piman is great when combined with Fauna's skills
It is weak if DOT character instead of a crit one but it's a pretty fun item for a Leeroy Jenkins IRyS build. You just descend in the middle of the mobs and they die of hope.
PikiPiki Piiman is pretty build specific and I don't think it benefits you too much unless you start getting health and regen upgrades.
since there's decent recovery / shield options it isn't necessarily bad - it just is situational
I'm not sure why people say piki is a bad item, i run yagoo pillow, with sake and piki on bae and get past the half an hour mark pretty easily.
It is but if you get hit on some kind of a shield you can have it up while not losing your sake.
It's pretty decent with Gura's dodge/regen skills to further enhance her damage multipliers, or to max out Bae's crit chance. With most builds you try to avoid getting hit though.
It's really good for Bae for insane critical hits and Irys that heals from critical hits.
If you fire that plug in type Asacoco at somebody at that speed, it doesn't hurt, it goes right through clean!
PPPiman is actually super good in endless when enemies swarm you so fast you ineveitably get hit anyways
Man, the creator had done an AMAZING job !!! I'm so happy so many holomems played it too !!!!!!!!!!!
Poor doggo
interesting that they are adding Korone Okayu Fubuki and Mio
Korone: is Inugami Korone gonna have to slap a bitch?
inb4 Kay makes Korone's character synergize with her item.
Just hope this game add all members...like all of them
Honestly, I imagine that the item would end up good on Korone herself once the Gamers characters are released, but there's no telling when that's gonna happen, unless I missed a specified date of release.
I hope it will be useful for her, after all, it's "her" item.
piki + body pillow for kronii and bae is like a power stone. just took a shield damage and +10% crit.
I think they should talk with Cover and the Vampire survivor's team, and make this whole game into a mod or a dlc for VS, and try to go big with the game. It is amazing what has been done but this could go even beyond!
Literally back here after the HoloCure update announcement lmao
Ina benefits by getting "hit" by her friendly takodachis from her skill
Takodachi's have come to Tako her life
I feel a lot better about not knowing how to strafe after seeing Korone snap back to attack the same way I did XD
Piki Piki Piman would fit well into a moveset for Bae in HoloCure, who relies on crit chance. It's not a weak item per-se, but needs an ideal moveset(s) to work.
E: Looks like IRyS also benefits from Piki Piki Piman in a skill set as well.
3:52
Monke giggle
I love doggo very much.
i find it fairs pretty well with kiara's shield and body pillow
I think Kiara was the most repeated name here because of the speed of those damn chickens.
it depends on character and if you managed to get important stuffs first and sustain then pick sake and piki then you get easy crits nearly 1 out of 4.