@@chasejackson7248 Literally everything is there. It’s by far the best ending to the series. People who don’t like it want their hand to be held by the writers
I dunno man. The breaking bad finale was pretty much done perfectly. I love the sopranos ending also, I just feel like its pretty obvious Tony got smoked and as an audience we didn't need to see it.
@@Sneakycastro69 False. People love him too much to wanna see that. There was shock value and curiosity, but nobody I know ever wanted to see him clipped in the end.
I can see why the final scene pissed people off on the initial viewing, but when you watch the series again knowing how it ends you realise how great it was. Tony's death was planned from the very beginning. The showrunners were happy to continue the show but James Gandolfini was sick of working 16 hour days filming it, which is why season 6 in particular got very dark - they had to show just how much of a piece of shit he really was. There were so many references throughout the show like Bobby Bacala "you probably don't hear anything, everything just goes black," or Patsy "it won't be cinematic," or Christopher when he's in hospital having his dream telling Tony "3 o'clock" (the angle Tony was shot from.) When you know the ending you pick up on all of these clues, and it actually would make no sense if Tony didn't die.
It was perfect even for the first time I watched, which was an year ago I think. Some people just want set up → pay off type of conventional narrative which Sopranos was always an anti thesis to. Surprisingly though all my friends also loved the ending on their first watch and we also collectively agree that this is the only really good ending we have seen. All others fall short in one way or other.
He died, doesn’t take a genius to figure it out.. each time the door opens and you heard the bell, the camera angle changes to a 1st person view of Tony watching each person come in.. meadow enters the diner and it goes black.. means he was shot and died on the spot.. not to mention the rest of his original crew were pretty much dead or on their way out.. just the final page in a mob life
Honestly, I thought about that interpretation as well and I think it's probable (especially with the whole talk with Bobby about how you probably don't even realize you're getting shot...), but it also could be interpreted as Tony's growing (justified) paranoia. ..Multiple characters in that scene look like Tony's potential killer and maybe that's just what it is about, he is surrounded with potential killers, everyone is a threat. It's hard to see how Tony could survive the circumstances that his crew was in at that point, but you never know....However, I think that by not showing us what happened they keep certain possibilities open and these possibilities don't really matter because no matter how you look at it, it's the end of the story we were being told. If Tony's dead, then he's dead. If Tony turns state witness, then it's not the same story anymore and it's not a very interesting one (At least, compared to what the series was about.) . I like Bojack Horseman theory....."Tony marries Doctor Melfi!? Mama mia!!!"
I take the black as that being the end of the story. It doesn’t matter what happens after the fade to black because it’s not part of the story. We start at the beginning of the therapy and end when it finishes
I love the ending, he got shot in the back of the head by the guy in the members only jacket right as Meadow walked in. It seems very obvious and there was much lead up dialog and symbols reinforcing that idea.
Damn the ending of this news report even took inspiration n ended like the show. Crazy cuz im from Orlando too. I just finished the show n i didn't like the episode at all but respect it.
The ending was brilliant, artistic, logical, etc. Life flows on, into the infinite, as it does for us all, and they’ll continue to live their lives the way they always have, and whatever fate or destiny has in store for them, they’ll meet it as they always have. We know that “he who lives by the sword dies by the sword”, so Tony’s demise is inevitable, but this way we all get to imagine on our own just exactly how that plays out. I suspect it was simply a little too “adult” for those who expected or wanted something more concrete, finite, neat & clean(unlike life). Allows us all to individually ponder how they “end up”. Touché, Mr. Chase. As brilliant as the Seinfeld ending, which was also a work of art….🙏🎭
Complete Cop Out Invest that many seasons into a series and the shows creator pulls the rug Horrible It should ended in a blaze of gunfire like The Wild Bunch
@@pellajoe No they didn't. If we are seeing it from Tonys perspective then we should not see his face. The last shot should have been of his family because that is what he was looking at. This "open" to interpretation thing is just lazy writing plain and simple. This series deserved better.
@@captainchinook1138 you can't be more wrong lazy writing would have been to just kill him off or to have him win and get out with consequences, this ending is brilliant, you should read about the hints all over the episode, because this ending is amazing, just not for the common viewer.
That talk Bobby and Tony had in the boat means nothing. They were just speculating that you don't hear it coming or feel it when it happen, just to make themselves feel better, that they wont suffer when the get killed. Bobby definitely felt the 20 something bullets he got in his big belly. Chris felt the blood in his lungs. Even Phil felt it too. Why would Tony not feel it too. That last scene with all the dubious-looking characters did not show anything that indicates he got shot.
Bro you don’t understand anything, the amount of parallels between the finale and the episode where bobby and tony talk in the boat go much much deeper
@@skippyjones2291 WTF are you talking about. Are you telling me that Tony and Bobby could predict the future? no, they can't. Just like imagining that one day you could win the lottery, chances are it will not happen, but if it did you can't then say I knew this was going to happen because you didn't know. Any parallels are just writing tools which were put there on purpose to impress and confuse gullible people like you. I agree that the writing was genius and deep, just don't overthink it mate. There are much better things to use your 3 brain cells on.
@@bluceree7312 youre talking about them like theyre real people and youre taking everything at face value, you think when the writers wrote that talk they were referring to every death in the show? And im not even saying they were definitely referring to tony but the line isnt meaningless, and im not gonna go into an analysis on the episode but you can find more parallels to the finale
@@bluceree7312 the sopranos is one of the most well structured shows ever made, there’s lines that you wouldnt think twice ab that are actually layered and connect to other things throughout the show, no song that they play or movie they have on is meaningless theres a reason for most things
Why did you want to see his brains splattered on screen in front of his family? He got shot that's what we assume would happen if you got shot in the face, "it won't be cinematic" + "you won't see it coming" instant fade to black and end to the greatest TV series ever made.
@@yatesy117 the best Tv show ever made , i agree with you .. it's just that i didn't want Tony Soprano to die at the end , for me that ending scene was a shock because i knew Tony got killed in front of his family when everything went black in a sudden
Terrible ending, just like all the choices they made regarding other arcs, plots and storylines they dropped or never concluded. Bruh. The ending to the therapy was one of the biggest cop outs too. Just because some psychiatrists tell you something about your show doesn't mean you wait and shit can an entire arc in the final episode. After plodding along for years. This show got a free pass for doing a lot of b.s. Under the guise of art or whatever. For a show that could have ended with Season 5, they just plodded along with nothing else for 2 seasons only to push more depressing meandering and repeating the same schtick with Tony still being the same even after the accident. Lol.
Y'all missing one detail, this show made money. If they showed Tony getting whack they couldn't bring him back. Fancy artistic filming of the end was to cover up that fact they didn't whack Tony. Come now y'all don't think that they (HBO) didn't think of every scenario. Once Jame died (RIP) then all of sudden chase said yeah Tony got whacked. I heard after he said that, he walked it back. Y'all just be happy that we go a show called the Sopranos. Just Sayn Salute cheers.
“Foreboding characters walk around the restaurant.” (Shows the two black guys who get blamed for everything)
Hands down the greatest finale of all time. People are STILL discussing it and analyzing it 15 years later.
That's because it wasn't a good ending and people had to fill in the holes.
@@chasejackson7248 Literally everything is there. It’s by far the best ending to the series. People who don’t like it want their hand to be held by the writers
@@chasejackson7248 just cuz your a moron doesn’t mean it’s a bad episode
I dunno man. The breaking bad finale was pretty much done perfectly. I love the sopranos ending also, I just feel like its pretty obvious Tony got smoked and as an audience we didn't need to see it.
@@chasejackson7248no it’s just that other people like you are clueless fuckwits who always need to be spoon fed
Were people really looking for Tony to get blown away and drop into the bowl of onion rings?
Yes
@@Sneakycastro69 False. People love him too much to wanna see that. There was shock value and curiosity, but nobody I know ever wanted to see him clipped in the end.
Nah. I wanted to see him get his comeuppance
Watch Joey Gallos hit in The Irishman. It would’ve been exactly like that
you're quoting the creator
1:01 this is only dude who has brains
YESS!!!
The ending was genius. I think it just takes time to like it.
Probably my favourite ending to anything ever.
It's been 15 years I still don't like it.
@@chasejackson7248 cool, but its genius and thats a fact
I have never loved an ending before The Sopranos I probably won't after it.
1:01 this guy gets it
The most reasonable take. You can be disappointed but he saw it coming, that’s dope
I can see why the final scene pissed people off on the initial viewing, but when you watch the series again knowing how it ends you realise how great it was.
Tony's death was planned from the very beginning. The showrunners were happy to continue the show but James Gandolfini was sick of working 16 hour days filming it, which is why season 6 in particular got very dark - they had to show just how much of a piece of shit he really was.
There were so many references throughout the show like Bobby Bacala "you probably don't hear anything, everything just goes black," or Patsy "it won't be cinematic," or Christopher when he's in hospital having his dream telling Tony "3 o'clock" (the angle Tony was shot from.)
When you know the ending you pick up on all of these clues, and it actually would make no sense if Tony didn't die.
You can watch it hundreds of times in any time zone, and on the moon it was still a terrible ending.
It was perfect even for the first time I watched, which was an year ago I think. Some people just want set up → pay off type of conventional narrative which Sopranos was always an anti thesis to.
Surprisingly though all my friends also loved the ending on their first watch and we also collectively agree that this is the only really good ending we have seen. All others fall short in one way or other.
@@chasejackson7248 the ending was brilliant lol you’re trippin
Nobody wanted to see the main character die..
So the ending was brilliant
He died, doesn’t take a genius to figure it out.. each time the door opens and you heard the bell, the camera angle changes to a 1st person view of Tony watching each person come in.. meadow enters the diner and it goes black.. means he was shot and died on the spot.. not to mention the rest of his original crew were pretty much dead or on their way out.. just the final page in a mob life
nope
That's what I got watching it. The guy that walked in the bathroom.
Honestly, I thought about that interpretation as well and I think it's probable (especially with the whole talk with Bobby about how you probably don't even realize you're getting shot...), but it also could be interpreted as Tony's growing (justified) paranoia. ..Multiple characters in that scene look like Tony's potential killer and maybe that's just what it is about, he is surrounded with potential killers, everyone is a threat. It's hard to see how Tony could survive the circumstances that his crew was in at that point, but you never know....However, I think that by not showing us what happened they keep certain possibilities open and these possibilities don't really matter because no matter how you look at it, it's the end of the story we were being told. If Tony's dead, then he's dead. If Tony turns state witness, then it's not the same story anymore and it's not a very interesting one (At least, compared to what the series was about.)
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I like Bojack Horseman theory....."Tony marries Doctor Melfi!? Mama mia!!!"
Then why did the screen go black? we got wacked, not Tony
@@canedewey756 Tony got wacked. Case closed 🔐
The reporter got wacked.
This end was ahead of its time. GREAT.
They got Gus Fring reporting about it lol
What happened with the reporter?!!!
1:20 media literacy level 0
I take the black as that being the end of the story. It doesn’t matter what happens after the fade to black because it’s not part of the story. We start at the beginning of the therapy and end when it finishes
I love the ending, he got shot in the back of the head by the guy in the members only jacket right as Meadow walked in. It seems very obvious and there was much lead up dialog and symbols reinforcing that idea.
Yes, that's one valid way of seeing it.
The writer owns the viewer any explanation at all. Fantastic ending.
Ah the good old mixing engineer's trick....Always pan the narrator's voice completely to the left......
I thought something was wrong with my ears.
"forboding characters"? Said at exactly that moment? Were the reporters that did this story in the Soprano family to?
"FOREBODING CHARACTERS LURKED IN THE DINER!!!"
(shows just two black guys about to order dessert)
uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
It was a genius ending.
well he was right a movie happened 14 years after called the many saints of newark
Damn the ending of this news report even took inspiration n ended like the show. Crazy cuz im from Orlando too. I just finished the show n i didn't like the episode at all but respect it.
after all the theories ive read...the fact that AJ and the jacket dude seem to come together ....mmmmm MMMMMM.....
I love the ending
I was hoping he'd gone easier all through the night 🌙... the king of breadsticks had his revenge.
My ears hated this
The ending was brilliant, artistic, logical, etc. Life flows on, into the infinite, as it does for us all, and they’ll continue to live their lives the way they always have, and whatever fate or destiny has in store for them, they’ll meet it as they always have. We know that “he who lives by the sword dies by the sword”, so Tony’s demise is inevitable, but this way we all get to imagine on our own just exactly how that plays out. I suspect it was simply a little too “adult” for those who expected or wanted something more concrete, finite, neat & clean(unlike life). Allows us all to individually ponder how they “end up”. Touché, Mr. Chase. As brilliant as the Seinfeld ending, which was also a work of art….🙏🎭
I like the ending of the sopranos.
Complete Cop Out
Invest that many seasons into a series and the shows creator pulls the rug
Horrible
It should ended in a blaze of gunfire like The Wild Bunch
People who don’t like the ending are small brain
I loved the finale, those who disliked it don't understand the show.
Great ending
Evorybody wanted tony whacked. Thts the simple ending. Glad they didnt do tht
1:24 Why did Gus Fring make this?
It was a dream and Tony died in his sleep
0:57 : I have always hated that approach. The writers get paid to tell the story, it's not up to me to finish writing it for them. LOL
I have always said this when it comes to movies. Hey, if they need me to write an ending I will, just pay me. What a stupid ending.
They told the story perfectly. You don't hear or see it coming. Its just lights out. We the audience got whacked along with Tony
@@pellajoe No they didn't. If we are seeing it from Tonys perspective then we should not see his face. The last shot should have been of his family because that is what he was looking at. This "open" to interpretation thing is just lazy writing plain and simple. This series deserved better.
@@captainchinook1138 you can't be more wrong lazy writing would have been to just kill him off or to have him win and get out with consequences, this ending is brilliant, you should read about the hints all over the episode, because this ending is amazing, just not for the common viewer.
If you thought that the Sopranos was just about giving you clear answers, you didn’t understand the show.
That talk Bobby and Tony had in the boat means nothing. They were just speculating that you don't hear it coming or feel it when it happen, just to make themselves feel better, that they wont suffer when the get killed.
Bobby definitely felt the 20 something bullets he got in his big belly. Chris felt the blood in his lungs. Even Phil felt it too. Why would Tony not feel it too.
That last scene with all the dubious-looking characters did not show anything that indicates he got shot.
Do you know what foreshadowing means lol plus there were more hints than what you listed
Bro you don’t understand anything, the amount of parallels between the finale and the episode where bobby and tony talk in the boat go much much deeper
@@skippyjones2291 WTF are you talking about. Are you telling me that Tony and Bobby could predict the future? no, they can't. Just like imagining that one day you could win the lottery, chances are it will not happen, but if it did you can't then say I knew this was going to happen because you didn't know. Any parallels are just writing tools which were put there on purpose to impress and confuse gullible people like you. I agree that the writing was genius and deep, just don't overthink it mate. There are much better things to use your 3 brain cells on.
@@bluceree7312 youre talking about them like theyre real people and youre taking everything at face value, you think when the writers wrote that talk they were referring to every death in the show? And im not even saying they were definitely referring to tony but the line isnt meaningless, and im not gonna go into an analysis on the episode but you can find more parallels to the finale
@@bluceree7312 the sopranos is one of the most well structured shows ever made, there’s lines that you wouldnt think twice ab that are actually layered and connect to other things throughout the show, no song that they play or movie they have on is meaningless theres a reason for most things
I hated the ending too
Why did you want to see his brains splattered on screen in front of his family? He got shot that's what we assume would happen if you got shot in the face, "it won't be cinematic" + "you won't see it coming" instant fade to black and end to the greatest TV series ever made.
@@yatesy117 the best Tv show ever made , i agree with you .. it's just that i didn't want Tony Soprano to die at the end , for me that ending scene was a shock because i knew Tony got killed in front of his family when everything went black in a sudden
@@yatesy117plus 3 o clock plus members jacket
Terrible ending, just like all the choices they made regarding other arcs, plots and storylines they dropped or never concluded. Bruh. The ending to the therapy was one of the biggest cop outs too. Just because some psychiatrists tell you something about your show doesn't mean you wait and shit can an entire arc in the final episode. After plodding along for years. This show got a free pass for doing a lot of b.s. Under the guise of art or whatever. For a show that could have ended with Season 5, they just plodded along with nothing else for 2 seasons only to push more depressing meandering and repeating the same schtick with Tony still being the same even after the accident. Lol.
Oh poor you
I feel sorry for you
Don't criticize what you can't understand
Truly and simply go fuck your self
its insane how many stupid people like you actually exist
Y'all missing one detail, this show made money. If they showed Tony getting whack they couldn't bring him back. Fancy artistic filming of the end was to cover up that fact they didn't whack Tony. Come now y'all don't think that they (HBO) didn't think of every scenario. Once Jame died (RIP) then all of sudden chase said yeah Tony got whacked. I heard after he said that, he walked it back. Y'all just be happy that we go a show called the Sopranos. Just Sayn Salute cheers.
Great ending