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- The Yamaha R7 has the worst name ever. Here's why.
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0:00 Yamaha R7 Release
0:27 Yamaha Fanboy
1:11 The R7 Was A Big Mistake
1:53 I Don’t Hate The Bike Itself
2:15 Yamahas Naming System
3:01 Big Shoes To Fill
3:46 R7 History
4:34 My R7 Experience
5:07 Confused Friend
5:27 Petition To Change Its Name
6:12 Aprilia Did It Better
6:38 Why Have 'R' In The Name
7:00 My R6 History
7:14 Potential R9 - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Unlike the others? Kawasaki has kept their 600 alive and made it compliant with euro 5 and on top of that they also brought a 400cc inline 4. How is that not keeping up with the segment?
Ninja 650 is technically the same since it came out just electronics and emission norms made any difference.
9k for a 400 I’s the problem
@@noahshields507if you dont think a small 400cc i4 that revs to 16k rpms is not worth 9k, you are not the target audience. The bike is everything the smol bore fans have wanted since the 90’s and they are happy. Ryan F9 himself said it best, the bike is perfect as is, no mods.
@@noahshields507the zx25r and zx4r market audience has always been specific, me personally I love both of them but with that type of price they put out I'd rather get other alternatives that has the same price range as those. Would I like to own one depends, if I have a money that I wanna spend on having a bike that's different compared to other bikes. The zx4r likely has my money
@@noahshields507 the r7 is 9k too and it puts out similar horse power numbers. Your point?
Having an R7 that I daily, I can safely say the R7 was never meant to replace the R6. The R7 is it's own machine that's a great commuter and lots of fun.
Exactly! Great bike, wrong name
Yeah it should be called YZF700R or YZF-R07 something like that.
R07 sounds weird, but it does make more sense
If it was a 700cc ish 4 cyl sure. Go with R7
@@someguy9520 Yeah I suppose it does but it shouldn't be MT-07R either as MTs are naked bikes only. Nothing wrong with YZF700R though. Maybe bring back the Thunderace name with that too.
The R9 however will deserve its name and doesn't ruin the memory of any older models.
@@ChaosCauses I think about the people who buy a expensive bike and know nothing about HP, inline 2 vs inline 4 are retards. Not the name because of tenere 700, tracer 7, MT-07, and xsr700 are mean the same CP2 engine. I owned the 2021 tracer 9, and now a R7 for track and i happy for bout motocykle.
MT-07R is the correct name to use
You’ve ridden one?
@@user-360johnn yup just on test ride days at my local dealer. Great bike just not a track machine like an R7 was.
MT series is for torquey bikes... and...R7 sucks at torque... doesn't suits
@@chandanrajpatil9167 The R7 and the MT-07 literally have the same engine. Your comment makes no sense.
@@mfbfreakit does actually do your research if you know anything about naked vs sport bikes the naked bikes even if they use the same engine have different gearing nakeds have shorter gears for torque
The naming system has been bad the whole time, you are ignoring the R15-R3-R7-R6-R1 which makes no sense at all, with or without the R7 in it
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I absolutely love my r7. And I will likely sell it when the r9 comes out, and get that. Sure, the name isn't the best. And I think mt-07r would have been a fantastic name for it. But also, who buys a bike and doesn't do the most basic of Google searches on it so to not be confused by the name?
upgrade to r6
i highly doubt they will ever make a r9 as long as the r1 is still around
From experience I can tell the R7 is a really fun bike to ride, is lightweight and narrow but power wise leaves to much to desire.
half the cylinders half the power
@@rodneystewart8340 it is what it is
I was going to get R7 from my local dealership around 2 months ago, just few papers away from bringing it home, but then the dealership offer me a test ride on ZX4RR
1 weeks later i got small bore 4 in my garage
I'm not surprised, Ive owned a couple of the original ZXR400s from the 90s and they were great fun. I have a 96 ZRX400 Eddie Lawson Replica now, same motor as the ZXR but with a retro 70s looking style, its great fun.
The biggest problem is that here in Europe you have 3 different motorcycle license (125ccm, 35kw and open). Back in the days you can reduce the power of any bike and many young choose the 600ccm supersportbikes, cause they handle perfect even with only 35kw. But few years ago, the rules changed and you can now only reduce the power of a motorcycle with has double the amount (70kw). With this rule changed, the sells of these 600ccm where gone. Thats why there are so many sportbikes with less than 70kw and even some, so called, A2-Varinte of bikes like the MT/FZ09.
When I first heard of this R7, I had the same reaction as you. I remember the original and was annoyed that this one would be powered by a twin. As time passed, I understood the name was just to move units and that most people buying the bike wouldn’t remember or even know about the original.
It’s a fine bike in its own right, but with the advent of the new ZX-4RR, any interest I had in an R7 as an intermediate track bike is gone. What can I say, I much prefer the sound of a four cylinder screamer.
The naming scheme was definetly weird especially when the FZ series was still around.
You had the FZ06, FZ07, FZ09, FZ10 all at once..
With the 7 being slower than the 6.
That's because the marketing department in the US is retarded.
Everywhere else they were called MT from the get go, making the fz6 a completely different row of bike.
And exactly as how the R125 and R3 aren't really super sports, so is the R7. So I don't understand how people can't pull the parallel here, especially since there was never an mt06.
I have an FZ-16. Which by this naming convention should be a 1600cc. But it's actually a 153cc, 14hp motorcycle. 😅 They also have their 150cc bikes as R15 and MT-15.
it was the FZ6, there was never an FZ06. And they stopped making the FZ6 years before the FZ07 came out.
is the aprilia in the back yours? i have one myself tuned, 160 kit and all sorts of stuff its really fast for a small single sylinder
is that an Aprilia rs 125 in the background?
It is indeed!
@@ChaosCausesYou should make a video on it
@@ChaosCauses Are you going to plan a video about this bike?
I have an R7 and agree that it was never meant to replace the R6...but so do Yamaha. Yamaha never marketed it as a the new R6, the community did. People saw the R7 release and started claiming Yamaha were trying to replace the R6. They weren't.
Yamaha just needed a sport bike to help fill the void between the R3 and R1. That's literally all it is. They never claimed it was here to knock the R6 off it's podium.
It's an aggressive, committed riding position not dissimilar to the R6 but slightly more forgiving. More tucked in and track oriented than the RS660 and the CBR650R but with a comparable power output. To Yamaha's credit, they gave the R7 some features that even the latest R6 never got. It's not a replacement for that bike. It's a lateral move by Yamaha into the supersport twin category so they can be more approachable and at least have something punchy and decent between their entry level sports bikes and their superbikes. People need to stop comparing the R7 and R6. They are different bikes for different purposes.
Great video my friend, you're getting better and better.
Keep up the good work 👍 🍻
Love your insights! I've been feeling the same. Whats your thoughts on the cbr600rr? I'd love to see you review that bike and if you ever need one, I'll be willing to let you review mines
Your video was so entertaining and topic was so interesting that i didn't even realise when the video ended. 😂
Really enjoyed this video and format. I feel more educated about the R7 and made me realise that I never looked too much into torque or hp when comparing some models. Shameful!
I totally agree with your view on the R7. The cbr650r you also quickly mentioned in the list is something different though: Honda doesn't have a 600r that is quicker, but a 600rr. The double "r" at the end classifies supersport bikes, the single "r" more comfortable but still sporty sportbikes and no "r" the connected naked bike with the same engine. To more clearly separate the naked bikes they are also only called "CB" and not "CBR".
By using that system in my opinion Honda created easy and clear categories to suit different needs and therefore riders while also having a bike for the European A2 license. (One that actually has four cylinders, which makes it unique in its class)
I have no major issue with it not being fast enough. Like if they'd used insanely aggressive gearing on a inline 4 that would be incredible imo. Lower top speed but twin like acceleration while keeping the revs. Is that feasible ?
I ride an old FZR600 with a larger rear sprocket. Top speed is limited by the rev limiter to 200km/h (haven't tried that out yet but acceleration in any gear is VERY fast - i have no doubt that it'll make it to 200 easily).
As an additional bonus, it's easier to ride in 30km/h zones. It doesn't like spending time below 3000rpm and the bigger sprocket makes it so that at 30km/h it'll rev above that.
But you can choose that yourself - just ask your maintenance shop to put on a sprocket X sizes larger.
The manufacturer could choose to switch around gearbox ratios so you get a very short 1/2/3/4 for the legal speed range, and then gears with larger gaps betwen them for 5/6. But for track riders that might feel really weird, and cost a lot more than just putting on a different sprocket.
not the first time sth like that happened... have a look at the old fj1100 "racer" -> fj1200 "sportstourer" -> fjr1300 "full on tourer". sometimes the customers request features that transform a model, sometimes it's government, sometimes just some kind of evolution. the naming however... 😅
Yamaha did the same thing with the Wolverine. The original Wolverine was a race looking 4-wheeler. Then when side by sides got hot in the market, they released a new Wolverine, and it was a Side x Side. Very frustrating. Love your content!
Fascinating! I never knew that
I don’t care about the name I never found it confusing.. I’m familiar with all the engines in every class from every manufacturer and I always knew the r7 isn’t replacing the r6.. the r9 will be replacing the r6 if they make it..
Most people are not that knowledgeable. I saw a mom looking for a bike at a dealership pushing a stroller and looking at the Ninja 650 and then saw the ZX-6R and for her brain 636cc is a smaller bike than a 650cc... I suggested she look at the Ninja 400 or the 650 instead of 134HP for a person new to bikes and said something like "bikes are 33.7x more fatal per mile than cars, you've got a young baby, you can get whatever you want but the ZX-6R is made for people like me that have nothing to lose", then when leaving I was smoking tires and drifting out the parking lot with my rotary car while she was walking out with her husband, thankfully I think she went home to do some more research.
Fun fact over a year later I bought a ZX-6R (passed a few cars today going to work at 159 indicated but that's only 149 gps), it is an excellent bike but I would surely get rid of it and settle down if I was married or had someone to be responsible for.
You should go test ride one, I promise you, you won’t be disappointed. It’s more of a bigger R3. Very good on street/freeway/track. A lot of people here in California using as stunt bike
100% agree with you boet. I was looking at the R7 but chose to go with the MT-07 and am so happy with it. Its light, flickable and super light. I've also dreamed of both the R6 and R1 as bikes Ill definitely own one day.
Awesome content as per usual, please keep it up.
Okay, but the r6 wasn't selling. It was failing and wasn't working.
The r7 is better than an r6 in so many ways.
It's just not *faster*.
And yet its still fast enough to shatter every speed limit in every country
While also being more comfortable, easier to ride, friendlier to everyone, etc.
People on a grom have more fun than all of us and their bikes are slow as hell.
yeah the r7 is faster than the r6 in some ways and slower in others. its kinda like the r6's alternative lifestyle brother 😂. The r9 i think will be heaps of fun, really wanna get one, but I bet theyll be hella expensive
@@hisride I'm hoping to pick up the mt09 personally just based on the almost unanimous praise, if they turn that into a sport bike style with the same engine
Triumph triples gonna be going out of business
@@iamcxd9782 yeah same, Im gonna get an mt09 2nd gen soon, amazing bikes by what ive seen
Where is the problem admitting slow bikes can be fun, and marketing them as slow bikes, rather than selling them as something that they are not. Royal Enfield seems to do pretty well on that model. So too does Harley Davidson.
@@AndyViant there isn't, and most people seem to agree since the r7 seems to be selling pretty well
It's just the squid community that wants street missiles crying that the r7 is trash compared to the r6
Don't worry, Kawasaki has you with the 2023 Inline 4 636 engine in the zx6r
I totally agree with you. Bear in mind though that manufacturers have to deal not only with costs going up, restrictions becoming stricter (at least for western markets), but also with the dying supersport trend/culture. 20 years ago the on/off or touring bikes were nowhere near the popularity they have today nor were they as mechanically and electronically advanced as they are today. So to build around them had practically NO meaning in terms of revenue and market share. The biking world is sadly changing, but I think we are just going through a phase like when Suzuki introduced the k5 1000cc engine or when the european manufacturers started improving their R&D and getting up there with the, until then, "Superior" JDMs.
You should ride one. Just put a akra exhaust and a tune on it and it rips. Had one and i pulled away from my buddies 100hp bikes 😂
If he's ridden a Yamaha Mt07, or TRX850, a Ducati 695 or Ducati 696, or a Suzuki SV650, A Kawasaki ER6f, or a BMW F800 he effectively already has.
PS Your buddies need to learn how to ride.
You talk about that this is the way we are going with the emissions but I'm not sure about that. Kawasaki launched a new zx-6r with 130hp i4 and their new zx-4rr 77hp i4 it just shows if they want it it's possible. Kawasaki has increased their buyer market by a lot because of that.
By 2030 all manufactures vehicles have to run on clean energy (electric, hybrid, etc) thats in 6 and a bit years, this is the golden years of Internal combustion powered bikes, enjoy them while you can.😟
why do you have a mint Aprilia RS in the background? (I have an rs 125 from the 2000's)
What's that on it's tank. Is it a speaker
True that they had only 500 (original) R7, but let's not forget the YZF-750 (US). I used to own one of them and despite they did not have the all package, it was an Ohlin shock equip bike, same red & white pattern and did have that weird 5 valve engine
Brother I agree. You wouldn’t imagine how many of my friends that now own an R7 want to line up. And then they are upset because I left them
i just love your perspective. yeah, i also thought of that name MT-07 R 😅. or MT-R 07
Try to get and ride a cbr650r. Mine has a full akra system and remap, so I'm getting 95 whp. It's honestly the closest thing you get to a euro 5 middle weight sport bike (besides the Kawi), granted it's more of a sport tourer and a little bit heavier. The sound with the new exhaust system is brutal, people think it's a full on sport bike 🤣
Ooooh can't wait for the RS125 video!
Problem is everyone is attached to "liter" AKA 1/1000/ ect ect, being the benchmark.
And most manufacture naming/labeling/serialization schemes are ignorant to begin with.
The new R7 is known as "Arse Heaven" in these parts (Australia)
"because I was mad at it" 😂😂😂
I get what your saying and I overall agree with it however on that naming scheme you would be naming a bike based on its specific engine and not body/riding style. I feel like the r7 name was based around looking like the r series and having the same riding position normal to sport bikes.
I own a duke 390 right now and it would be like arguing that the rc390 should have been named the duke rc 390 or the rc duke 390. Just some thoughts I had on the topic here for fun discussion.
I always wanted to buy an r6 once im a little bit more experienced (i ride an mt 07 rn with 6 years of experience) but now the prices for an r6 are ridiculous
The OG R7 - OW02 was the bike of lust. Rex Judd's dealership in Edgware had one, along with an RSV Mille SP and would just stare at them on my walk back from school. Both bikes were lost in a fire in the early 00's... Pity.
MT07R - Just like BMW M140i or M240i, not a full blown M car, but enough make up and tarty bits to give a small insight to what a full fat M car would be.
It's sad to see the mid-cylinder sport bike class die… Except at Kawa 👌🏻
Having an R7 that I enjoy, it was never meant to replace the r6 here in the states. We got this thing called Moto America and there's a twins cup class and the R7 stole the championship the first year out so it's a very very successful bike.. mine has weight removed re geared exhaust tune stacks etc . And pulls just as hard as my friends litre bikes up to 115ishmph (r1m) so isnt a slouch by any means!
Brother, seeing an other mint RS 125 second gen just like mine is literally a gift
They Used an Popular Nomenclature to Sell a Tenere/MT07 Parallel Twin with Sport Fairings
To be honest the 1995 Yamaha FZR 600 I owned had a better overall street engine than an R7 or R6.
Longish-stroke 4Cyl redlining at 11,500 with great midrange pull stronger compared to an R6 at anything below 9,000 rpm but still had that 4cyl scream on top make about 15 hp more than the R7 twin.
There has never been more gap between the 1000ccs superbikes and middle weights sportbikes. It's either stick below 100HP or go above and beyond 200HP. Only triumph and ducati have something in the 130-160HP range. That triumph 765 3 cylinder engine is a screamer. Don't know what's stopping yamaha from doing the same.
My father in-law has an orig R7 and it is an amazing machine. Sadly it’s getting harder and harder to find parts for, especially when he continually drops it in the shed because he’s so short 🤦🏻♂️
WTF it's a new bike you can still get all the parts new
@@stewart8127 it’s a YZF750 from the 90’s
@@TilyXR6 I know a guy who has one he died his wife has it now. If you have the money it's worth I can probably get her to sell it. It's mint. Let me know it's in palm beach Florida.
@@stewart8127 how much to ship to Western Australia? 😅
@@TilyXR6 I would estimate between 3k to 10k dollars. I don't know .I know a realtive who shipped a bike to Miami from England and it was in that range. In most cross international border vehicle transactions the buyer arranges shipping. It has a title and is street legal. The bike my realtive had shipped was neither and it took months and month of red tape to get it shipped. Anyway it's available if you're serious but it's owned by a 70 year old widow. So tick tock.
It might be a new take on taking the R line and making it the MT. If the MT-10 was a de-tuned R1, then it would make sense that the R7 would be an up-tuned MT-07 in a new attempt to make the MT line match with the R line. We have to MT-03/R3 and the MT-10/R1, why not make the middle of them both the opposite, right?
I feel the same! MT07-R would be a good name. Yamaha should start watching your vids :)
There's a guy in my area that has one. It looks nice. if you're new to bikes and wants something that looks good and not so worried about specs then it's a decent choice.
I wich I had an R7 (OW02). It is a beautiful motorcycle. Would have looked great next to my FRZ750RR (OW01)
the R7 seems to me a learning tool for the track and I'd buy one in a heart beat, but for the price. It competes with the rc390. Maybe it should be called the R4? Closest competitor I think is an sv650? Would love to ride them back to back.
its literally named by engine size
I purchased an R7 a few months ago, it's a beautiful bike that handles well but I still want the factory track aggressiveness that the R6 has which is something that I definitely felt the R7 lacks. The problem is R6 prices have skyrocketed after Yamaha discontinued the bikes and even finding one on the used marketplace seems to be hard even if you have the cash (where I live at least). Shame there will probably never be another R6 but one can hope.
You've completely missed the point of the R7. It's a beginner sport bike that is a step up from the R3. It's for new riders that aren't teenagers and want to start on something a little more than an R3 or Ninja 400. It's not meant to replace the R6. The R6 never needed a replacement because if there was demand for a bike like the R6 they would just keep making it. The R9 will be more of a replacement for the R6 but even that won't really be comparable.
The main reason the R6 was stopped was emissions, each year in Europe they demand tighter and tighter emissions. Its easier to get a twin cylinder engine to pass than an equal displacement 4 cylinder, plus they are cheaper to make. And with the 2030 deadline for all vehicle manufactures to stop making internal combustion powered vehicles approaching, they probably didn't want to spend the money developing a new engine to pass the ever tightening emissions. The R1 will probably go next, just like Suzuki stopped selling the GSX-R1000 in many markets.
@@uhtred7860 I live in Europe. I don't need to be told about the emissions laws.
@@Ellis01234567890 My condolences.
I hope they change up the whole R series to be R03, R07, R09, R10
While that makes more sense the R10 would still not fit in that group. Yet it's the R1's group. They made it.
Rumours are the R9 is going to be announced at the end of the year
because the stricter law in europe, then couple lack of sales, which then got axed. it's all boil down where the market that make more money sense
so i don't give a hoot since now they focus on more ferocious market that is the asia specifically the south east asia as more people upgrading from their underbone to proper big bike (starting from 250cc)
since im from south east asia, this beneficial to us, as we have never being more spoil on motorcycle market compare to 2 decades ago where underbone and scooter were the only option and the quarter liter above are prohibitive expensive
naming convention wise, Yamaha never care, except Honda (which even worse) but pretty they did for the sake of continuity from the 150 (we don't start from 125), 250 and beyond
You know I felt cheated when I found out that Yamaha r7 was a two cylinder motorcycle I'm sad that owing an r6 dream will never be true but my first 650 continental GT is booked and coming home next month so excited for that
agree...i went from riding Red (CBR900RR, VFR800, CBR929RR) to BMW and haven't looked back. I would like to get into a 300-400cc enduro and am leaning towards KTM.
> " Yamaha's naming system of R series is easy to figure out "
Some 11 years ago, someone's jaw dropped when I said I have a Yamaha R15 .. In their mind it meant 1500cc. In reality it is a 150 :)
I remember this incident as I found it hella funny back then.
"Supersport" riding position-wise, both R125 & R15 are more aggressive than an R3 or even the R7.
At first I thought it was no big deal. I was assuming that the R7 must be able to compete with 600s from the early 90s. Oooohhh...nope. Almost identical specs to the old XJ600S Seca II though.
When the r9 is announced, I’m trading in my 2020 mt 09 immediately
the problem with the r6 is that it cost alot of money to run looking at the track day boys perspective the r3 ninja 400 are the bang for buck track bike while the r1/panigale the latest and greatest superbike the r6 is just to expensive you could just pay a bit more and get a yourself a superbike or downgrade and pay penuts for bike like the r3 and all its cheap track expendables the r7 fits welll into the 2 group of bikes the r6 is just to close to the superbikes in terms of running cost anyway there dicthing the r6 and will probally replace it with an r9 that is base of the mt09 and that bike is fast enough to keep an r6 humble.
I dont think we need to see it as the r6 replacement but a middle weight to get in to the r line. Also can yamaha advertise it better here in europe because they can restrict it to have 35 kw of power so 18 year olds can get a license on them.
I got name called by a vlogger for highlighting there are inline 4 600's with more power available at 1/3 rd of the price .
Don’t forget the r15, see tons of those little things over here in India
So should I get the R6 instead of the R7? Or go for the mt09? I currently have kawasaki Z400 but want an upgrade. I'm torn between the R7/6 and Mt09.
Get an R6, unless you have any particular reason that a sports bike won’t work.
R7, R6 and MT09 all have different flavoured engines, I personally would recommend the MT-09 as I'm a sucker for triple character and sound but if you are a supersport fan definitely go for that i4 dream, A Kawasaki ZX6R will be a good choice as R6 are not available new. If still confused take a test ride.
The cbr650r (non restricted) does a respectable job at closing the gap as it has an inline 4
what's important when buying an expensive bigbike specially big 4's are the big bike sound and not a 250 cc sound. no matter how they sugar coat the story telling to sell their 2 cylinder only, it is still an inline 2 which should be cheaper. This is all about cutting cost to gain so much profit on a cheap 2 cylinder engine using a brand.
Lekker video 🤘
You vids are just bloody fantastic... !!!!
As a lifetime Yamaha Fan and Rider, it really bothers me how they so often do the "bold new graphics" and "parts bin" type of "new" bikes that really aren't new. The R7 is the greatest example of this. The CP2 engine has SO much potential locked up in it, the head/cam package on those bikes is extremely mild. Yamaha could've bumped it up to 90-100HP without a lot of effort, which would've transformed it.
As an owner of a 2017 R6, I totally agree with you.
those emission and sound regulations is crazy!!! All bikes now simply going up with engine volume and lower revs. Bikes is too small part of polluting anyway to even care. And yes, I hate people with load exhausts, no reason for that.
I’d want to test ride an r9 for sure I do think the mt-07r would of been a better name but if they’re doing an r9 they would also have to make it be mt-09r over r9
The 600 supersport class declined because as they got more and more race focused, not only did the price gap between the once affordable 600s and the 1000s narrow, but the all round ability was lost somewhat. The 600 class was once the biggest selling class, full of great bikes that were sporty and quick, but not full on track weapons like what they became. Sales slowed, then dropped right off, and now the 600 class is all but dead. For me the 600s peaked around 2000/2003.
Idk this sounds stupid but caling it the R-07 doesn't sound like it's trying to pass as the successor to the R6 while also making sense of the CP-02 engine in a sportsbike line
The others are struggling? What about the new ZX6 form Kawa?
Higher CC big power motorcycles don't sell all that well compared to scooters, mopeds or lower cc motorcycles.I believe the Japanese companies make the most profit from their sales in the Asian region. The R7 is a product of that. A super sport looking bike that's easier to maintain and lower in costs.
I would think the R3 fits that perfectly. I think it's to compete with the Ninja 650 (often thought of as a beginner bike in the US), I think for other countries the R3 would be better.
It is the same with everthing else, middle-class is dying out everywhere
That RS125 looking sexy in the back. Can't wait for the video
I feel like youre the same guy in novice geoup who asks the control riders how often youre allowed to pass, then later get passed by an R3 or R7 while youre on an s1krr
What if they'd have called it the R5?
I feel that would have caused way less issue, even if the 5 didn't match the CC in any way, it would fall in line in terms of the power rankings
i had the same idea, if anything r125, r3, *r5*, mt07, mt09, R1 would make more sense as a scale too
I had an 2023 r7, I loved it for about 2 weeks after that I was bored with it an became completely mad that Yamaha done that to me. Everyone on TH-cam blows the bike way out proportions an that's one reason I got one. It left me wanting more on middle an really lacking on top end. I sold the bike after a month of having it an got the new 23 gsxr1000r an love what I have now.
you spent $10k on a bike without understanding the difference between a twin and an inline 4? that's wild to me
Fair gripe! It's a bit like Honda's CBR650 having 26 less HP than the CBR600. It doesn't make sense from a CBR numbers standpoint and causes confusion to the consumer. I agree that the naming for Aprilia bikes is much more logical and sensible... and honest.
At least Honda didn't call the CBR650 the RC-45😆
We need to get rid of the people making these bs emissions laws
I am just going stick with my 1984 RZ350 KR special, not sure if that's still cool but.
they are fecking amazing bikes!!! 😛
@@Drobium77 Mine gets new tires tomorrow.
"just about everything is dissappointing after getting off a R1" ...
R6 is such a beautiful machine man
It's one of the best if not best looking motorcycles from Japan
Hatsoff to Suzuki for selling not only GSXR750 but GSXR600 along side.
The Honda CB750 used to have an inline 4, now it's a twin. Who cares?
The new R7 is a great bike, even on the track and it's not the successor of the R6 - it's way cheaper. Also not the successor of some prehistoric collectible that most of us never saw in the flesh.
Thousands of track day enthousiasts on a budget around the globe are celebrating because they can finally get rid of their 20 years old SV650 track tools and get a sharp looking new contemporary Supersport bike without braking the bank. A bike that features about the performance of a 90s Ducati Supersport 900 SS.
Yeah, that's really a valid reason to get mad, isn't it?
Thank god I can still find mid 2000 litre bikes going for less than half of an R7
how was r7 replacing r6?it is not a i4 supersport,totally different bike
Should have just called it mt07rr similar to what triumph did with the speed triple,rr
Wait… it’s a twin?!? Hahahaha! I really don’t understand bikes these days.
I don't see what the big deal or disappointment is about.
There is no rule that states an R-series Yamaha sportbike has to have a 4-cylinder engine.
The 2015 YZF-R3 showed everyone that, and by now we all know that the 3 in YZF-R3 refers to the displacement class of the bike.
As for the 1999 YZF-R7, most people looking to buy a bike like the current YZF-R7 have never heard of the 1999 bike, and you sure did not see any in the showroom or out on the streets back in the day.
Heck, many riders that did not closely follow racing back then were not aware of it.
It was simply a race homologation special built just to meet the rules - practically speaking, nobody you knew owned or rode one.
My 2 cents about there no longer being a YZF-R6 and it being replaced in the model range by the current YZF-R7:
I have never ridden the current YZF-R7, although I did ride a 2015 FZ-07 for several years, the bike the current YZF-R7 is based upon.
I also rode a 2001 YZF-R6 back in 2001 for one riding season.
In my opinion, the FZ-07 was MUCH better at sport riding on the back roads I rode on.
No contest, actually, because the power delivery makes so much more sense it just isn't funny.
If you like open freeways, Interstates, or an actual road race track to ride on, I can see why you'd like revving a YZF-R6 and thinking that is cool.
But for real back roads?
No contest.
A side benefit is with the Ti Akrapovic I had on the FZ-07, it sounded fantastic - way better than how my YZF-R6 sounded.
Well the naming is IMO ok, if you consider that the old R7 carries the name YZF-R7 and as the new R7 has no 4 cylinder, it may not have the badge YZF.
Is it just me or do people who neither drive nor ride on track like to use racetrack performance as some sort of benchmark?