A Very Honest Q&A With Mark

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  • @sofia4586
    @sofia4586 ปีที่แล้ว +2420

    Been watching since 2013 and I honestly think Zoe played a huge role in de-stigmatizing anxiety online. It was one reason I was drawn to her channel because I never saw that relatability or vulnerability in a TH-camr before. It’s great how much the mental health conversation has improved over the last decade.

    • @EllieHawkes
      @EllieHawkes ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I totally agree! She was the only one talking about it! Will forever be grateful for her doing that. ❤

    • @sidsels3072
      @sidsels3072 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Zoella was the reason I found out I have anxiety. I had never heard about it before she talked about it. Forever grateful ❤

    • @maplewolfz7444
      @maplewolfz7444 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes I didn’t even know about anxiety until she made a video about it when I was in middle school

    • @deanna4146
      @deanna4146 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I remember the progress she’s definitely made and how she shared it with us. I know that because of her I was more open to talk about it with a counselor and knowing that it was becoming less of a stigma.

  • @Lil_Deery
    @Lil_Deery ปีที่แล้ว +499

    When Zoe says that she doesn't know what her and Mark would talk about if they did a podcast and then the entire Q&A session is basically perfect podcast content

  • @skeller7474
    @skeller7474 ปีที่แล้ว +807

    I love that Mark greeted the camera when he walked in. It's like we were part of the family greeting!

  • @DarkEnchantments
    @DarkEnchantments ปีที่แล้ว +343

    A Zoe and Mark podcast would truly make my life complete

    • @brittanymaclean99
      @brittanymaclean99 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yesss! 🤩

    • @ecesungur
      @ecesungur ปีที่แล้ว +2

      YES. with the least effort and editing, natural as they are, just like on the phone when they have the time

  • @Kushinaz
    @Kushinaz ปีที่แล้ว +167

    Mark's reaction to ottie saying his name is the cutest thing ever. You guys just made my day. Smiled ear to ear.

  • @Clarabell98
    @Clarabell98 ปีที่แล้ว +662

    I need a Nostalgia podcast from Zoe and Mark!! Bringing guests of different ages on and talking about different nostalgic things each episode. Like Christmas, toys, music. It would be so cool! ❤❤❤

    • @Clarabell98
      @Clarabell98 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Call it ‘Those were the days’ or ‘Remember when’ I need need need this podcast!!!!

    • @ShanMartia
      @ShanMartia ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Clarabell98 such a good idea! Even having fans put in there nostalgic moments and Zoe and Mark speaking about it 🥰🤌🏻

    • @TaraGriffith97
      @TaraGriffith97 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      YES

    • @rachl6752
      @rachl6752 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh I just commented something so similar 😅 sorry I didn’t see your comment! Great minds think alike! Clearly we all want something similar lol

    • @ThisIsElized
      @ThisIsElized ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This would be amazing! ❤ Every time she puts a video up my days automatically become better 🥰☺️

  • @theodora6843
    @theodora6843 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    You guys together are just the purest..✨ Ottie saying "Mark"😭, Mark saying 'Hi' to us as he arrives, I often almost feel like I'm part of the gang and I love it! Your connection is great for my heart!! ❤️😄🥰

  • @TaraGriffith97
    @TaraGriffith97 ปีที่แล้ว +347

    Man I love this new openness from you both. I feel like we’re actually getting in on the friendship and things aren’t like censored. A lot of OG TH-camrs still kinda treat their long time viewers as the pre teens we once were but like I’m 25 now and hearing you guys talk like adults is refreshing 😂 You two remind me of me and my best friend Austin. We’ve been friends for 15 years and he’s JUST like mark! Not gonna lie he’s slid into marks dms a few times too LMAOOO 😂

  • @Anihamela
    @Anihamela ปีที่แล้ว +53

    My favorite moments are when it’s completely silent and all you can hear is Mark’s whispered laugh… it gets me EVERY time!

  • @amelialaird8387
    @amelialaird8387 ปีที่แล้ว +295

    Zoe and Mark are the best duo!! ♥️♥️

  • @frederiqueb1599
    @frederiqueb1599 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Ottie saying “Maaark” is soooo sooo cute ❤️ so full circle ❤️

  • @NaomiElizabeth96
    @NaomiElizabeth96 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    Live by Mark’s words “be delusional” same girl same !! ❤

  • @madelynnails4642
    @madelynnails4642 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Podcast idea for you both: life in your twenties. What you learned, how you changed, the different routes you can take. Going out, staying in. Getting married young or having kids first, etc!!

  • @gigiyoo1321
    @gigiyoo1321 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    can't imagine Zoe without Mark being around❤️ best friendship i've ever seen

  • @danufes
    @danufes ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I cannot describe how much I love when you guys film together. It's like a reflection of me and my best friend together and it just warms up my heart. Thank you for such cosy vlogs! ❤

  • @laurabarham338
    @laurabarham338 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    "Pearl necklace? If I'm lucky." Made me burst out laughing!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Love laughing along with you two!

  • @demidreyer6213
    @demidreyer6213 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Zoe and Mark videos are the most comforting thing ❤

  • @rubydiane5109
    @rubydiane5109 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've been watching since I was maybe 11/12, 2013 for sure. I can't even describe the impact seeing someone talk so openly about anxiety. I don't think I'd actually seen it before that. And it's so helpful to so many people - I still go back to all of your videos about anxiety whenever I need to feel less lonely about it. So thank you for that

  • @tanyaturrell3367
    @tanyaturrell3367 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Seeing videos of you two together is just the best. Like if I’m ever feeling down a Zoe and mark vlog will never fail to make me smile.

  • @Ni_kki__
    @Ni_kki__ ปีที่แล้ว +103

    You and Mark together is just the best combo I needed this evening! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @harmonyjoy
    @harmonyjoy ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I feel so privileged that I've been able to see your friendship from the very beginning. My favorite duo! 🥰

  • @PTHelena
    @PTHelena ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That “stop it” with the pointy finger made me actually cry (also a libra babe here)… I love Zoe (and Mark, of course), I’ve been watching all of your videos and content for so many years now that it’s almost like you’re part of my family. That’s priceless. Thank you so much 💛

  • @preperly
    @preperly ปีที่แล้ว +21

    “Don’t worry too much about the future, the future is bright, future is Orange”
    🧡 I need that on a t-shirt or somewhere in my home as a daily reminder. Always love watching Zoe and Mark together

    • @fluffyfour
      @fluffyfour ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That was an advert in the early 2000s for a phone company called Orange. It was taken over by T-Mobile, which has now merged into EE.

  • @abbytorres7443
    @abbytorres7443 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    It was so cute when Ottie learned Mark’s name and kept saying it!😂❤

  • @Fayelin449
    @Fayelin449 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    An idea for a podcast is to talk about friendships. You could have a chat with other best friends and their experiences with friendship. I know that the introvert in me would love something like that.

  • @georgiabrown7891
    @georgiabrown7891 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I love when zoe calls mark 'ferris' it so funny and wholesome ❤️❤️❤️❤️🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

  • @amydeary4085
    @amydeary4085 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Zoe: “Maybe a little pearl necklace?”
    Mark: “woah! If I’m lucky”
    HAHAHAHA DYINGGGGGGG 😂

  • @leonniehowe1512
    @leonniehowe1512 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this wholesomeness, I think it helps that I’m 32 and feel like I’ve grown and gone through all the thoughts and feelings with you both.
    I love the mental health chats, I’m very much a believer that getting your thoughts out of your head and into the atmosphere helps massively. It’s almost like the thoughts are trapping you and making you feel anxious and panicked so talking and getting it out is almost freeing 💕

  • @casey4661
    @casey4661 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Describing panic/anxiety attacks as being a freezing moment is so true. I'm a therapist, and I've found that even over the last three years, talking more about mental health has become more normalized. Hopefully it becomes even more normalized over the coming years.

  • @BrainPleasers
    @BrainPleasers ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Omg please bring out a podcast, when you mentioned putting on ‘comfort shows’ when talking about anxiety… you guys are my comfort show 😢

  • @SnidySenses
    @SnidySenses ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I honestly think "knowing" what I wanted to do at 17, but not being able to fulfill that goal was way worse for my mental health than my friends that had no clue at that point. Literally everything felt like a disappointment (to others which in turn meant to me) after that. So try things, take opportunities, don't force yourself to fit an expectation that really means nothing after we leave high school lol

  • @lilianangel6473
    @lilianangel6473 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Zoe and Mark vlogs are the best!! And oh my god Mark is going to be such an asset to little Ottie as she grows, I wish I had a Mark growing up. Of course she has the best parents too but just knowing her extended family is Mark it melts my heart! ❤❤❤❤

  • @weronika.99.
    @weronika.99. ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Zoe changing her concealer from collection lasting perfection to another one is WILD. What now, you will change your balsamic glaze on tomatoes?! Just kidding, you look amazing and its fun to see you trying new stuff

  • @LBanks-gy6kb
    @LBanks-gy6kb ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love how Ottie’s kitchen is better equipped and cuter than my own!!! 🥰🥹

  • @hopeg02
    @hopeg02 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Zoe I just Want to say I’m so proud of you . I have been watching for about 10 years now. Since before you and Alfie were together. I remember seeing you guys do your first videos, everyone shipping you guys together and now look at you guys. I just can’t believe it at all. Your baby is walking and talking like I just can’t believe it. Thank you so much for the years and years of advice and laughs, and I hope everything is going perfect in your lovely life and family you created.

  • @antij3711
    @antij3711 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So much love for you! Watching you and Mark chatting and answering questions, it feels like we're a part of it and just hanging with some good old friends 💗

  • @lauravincent1969
    @lauravincent1969 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m still laughing at mark saying about if Zoe smashed his scream pictures and Zoe saying if Mark punched Ottie in the head!
    The love and respect you have for each other along with the same sense of humour is infectious. Thank you for the belly laughs on a dull Sunday evening!

  • @lexibilton
    @lexibilton ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i love how open you are with anxiety struggles! thankyou for your constant support

  • @TheThegirlsarehere
    @TheThegirlsarehere ปีที่แล้ว +10

    there is nothing that makes me feel better than new zoe and mark vids

  • @elizabethkent1373
    @elizabethkent1373 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Watched you for years , your a great parent, enjoy your daughter as it goes so quick one minute my daughter was born and now starting school in September so don't worry about things to much Just enjoy your life every minute hope you see this 😊 ❤

  • @casey0154
    @casey0154 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Zoe and Mark should have a podcasts discussing old Y2k movies or just movies, sweets, music eras, etc. that we might have forgotten about! You guys love a film

  • @jacqueline2121
    @jacqueline2121 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you zoe and mark for being my comfort duo ❤❤

  • @roede6765
    @roede6765 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you and Mark were talking about what you do when life gets too much and for me its always watching your summer vlogs as they calm me down and I just feel so relaxed xxxx

  • @KierraLife
    @KierraLife ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What about a “best friend therapy” podcast? Like giving advice on questions sent in? I know you did this concept on these videos but I think as a podcast would be amazing! And I haven’t seen anything like it!

  • @graceboxall9497
    @graceboxall9497 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My fave vid is the one where mark was spinning those plates and fell backwards, the laughter was contagious.Love you two

  • @BCHZA
    @BCHZA ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your friendship with mark and it’s so lovely seeing you be a mum 🥰

  • @donttrustthegnomes
    @donttrustthegnomes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved the chat about anxiety. I often remember the videos you made when you first opened up about your anxiety and the things Louise Pentland and your other TH-cam friends at the time did to support you. I miss the Chummy videos, but it was lovely to see you have a similar talk in a new chapter of your life xx

  • @zoedcruz
    @zoedcruz ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Literally nothing I love more than a Zoe and mark vlog ❤️❤️

  • @karencurtis6141
    @karencurtis6141 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ottie when she said Marks name my heart melted, then watching Marks face when he heard her say his name for the first time … tears everywhere and nose tears😳.
    Your friendship is incredible as are both of you , you listen to each other and care deeply which makes this special. You both can say I need you and that enough.
    Brilliant questions loved this video … I also posted a similar message on Alfie’s channel 🤭I have no idea how but when I went to leave him a message I read the message that was for you ….. deleted
    Take care xx x x and Mark x

  • @MM13650
    @MM13650 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    For the first minute of the video I thought the side of the sofa was Mark’s arm. I was legit waiting for him to say something. 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @elizabethdaniel9711
    @elizabethdaniel9711 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been watching you both since you both started TH-cam, and can I just say how happy I get watching your videos together. Genuinely cheers me up EVERY single time & I laugh out loud. The bond you both have is so special & it’s lovely to be able to watch back. I don’t normally comment on videos but if you see this just know you’re both incredible and help so many of us 🤍

  • @darrenq6926
    @darrenq6926 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Honestly a car podcast would be great where you guys just drive and talk, I think it's quite a unique idea. You could have like singing sections. Call it zark car journeys haha

  • @624bea
    @624bea ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The pearl necklace comment has me cackling with laughter 😂 your videos together always feel like I'm having a catch up with friends

  • @sarah8592-t1b
    @sarah8592-t1b ปีที่แล้ว

    No one has a plan in life! I read quote once that was more or less just.. this is everyone's first time at life.. everyone is winging it.. your parents.. your friends.. your children.. noone's done it before and we're all just winging it together

  • @fionasantos6125
    @fionasantos6125 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love you to both ..
    Time flies by so quick
    Ottilie before you know it she will be at school and before you know you will be in your 40s make the most of it, family time is important and have fun

  • @FuriousDinosaur123
    @FuriousDinosaur123 ปีที่แล้ว

    Podcast Idea: different episodes filmed while doing daily activities together and just chatting
    • cooking dinner together
    • cleaning the house
    • doing skincare
    • organizing a pantry
    Just regular, every day activities but together and explaining how you prefer to do it, childhood stories that come to mind with that activity, etc.

  • @chantellelouise2558
    @chantellelouise2558 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please talk more about your postpartum experience/ the fourth trimester I feel like it’s not talked about enough and as someone who is currently going through it I can’t find anything online about this period of time! ❤❤

  • @907_emma
    @907_emma ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “The world of zoey & mark” 🥺❤️ so cute I love you two so much

  • @michelle_mitch_p
    @michelle_mitch_p ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Just what a Sunday evening needs. Always makes me feel good having a zoe vlog xx

  • @chloebarthlow629
    @chloebarthlow629 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love what you guys said about growing older and being more comfortable with who you are

  • @dallayce3304
    @dallayce3304 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly, you 2 are such comfort to me right now and I’m always going to your mark and zoe playlist ❤️❤️

  • @forblueskiescm
    @forblueskiescm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think an idea for your podcast is to have the focal point around you both watching and reviewing recent Netflix series, new movies, documentaries etc chatting about that initially and then going off on to different topics! Just think you guys love a movie night and people love watching reviews of new programmes / movies etc! X

  • @helenamblx
    @helenamblx ปีที่แล้ว

    love how i used to get home from school and watch your videos at 14 and now i’m 21, got home from work, and i’m still watching! :)

  • @abbydiaz5098
    @abbydiaz5098 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Honestly you and Mark in another life would meet in a garden center! 😅

  • @peekatyou3838
    @peekatyou3838 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ”Inappropriate advice with Zoe & Mark” or something of the sort would be really funny coming from you two!

  • @hayleej272
    @hayleej272 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could watch these types of videos with you 2 all day, every day!! Thank you! 💖

  • @lis7742
    @lis7742 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I do not mean anything bad about this, at all! I have ADHD myself, and you and Mark's friendship, seems so much like that magnetic, super real, ultra honest, weirdo relationship two people with ADHD often have! I have never met you guys, but I just love you! 💜

  • @esthercharles4266
    @esthercharles4266 ปีที่แล้ว

    The question about what you go to when struggling with mental health or having a hard day- I literally woke up feeling a bit anxiety-ish and this video and your old vlogs are actually my go to :) ❤

  • @heatherwilson5617
    @heatherwilson5617 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been waiting for the day that ottie said (Mark)! I melted along with him lol. So cute!

  • @leahthompson-ainslie9406
    @leahthompson-ainslie9406 ปีที่แล้ว

    2023 is different because people like you both made the first steps in making talking about mental health normal!!! I hope you see that🥰

  • @katarinag6032
    @katarinag6032 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always have a smile on my face when i watch you two, such a positive energy from both when ur together

  • @donnamercer7037
    @donnamercer7037 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love it when you guys go out for the day to stores and shop and eat lunch! Just a friends day.

  • @NaomiElizabeth96
    @NaomiElizabeth96 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Why is Ottie saying Mark the cutest thing ? 😍

  • @MissMarilynDarling
    @MissMarilynDarling ปีที่แล้ว

    and just remember when it comes to a career its NEVER too late to change your mind and pivot completely in a different direction :)

  • @brynapaige9777
    @brynapaige9777 ปีที่แล้ว

    The creative in me is picturing the intro to your future podcast as, flashback of yours and marks videos and a quick snip of some of your favs then picture the title being classic q&a with mum and funcle lol xxxx

  • @rushkapoly8319
    @rushkapoly8319 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just pure pleasure to see you both laughing and so excited ❤ and Ottie saying “Mak” 😅😂 adorable.
    Ottie saying “daddy” just melt my heart out 🤍 really makes me cry every time 😅

  • @Pollene13
    @Pollene13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Everyone deserves a friendship like you too have ❤

  • @KirstieRose
    @KirstieRose ปีที่แล้ว

    You two have the best friendship. Goals! 🥰❤️ you two are the most genuine people too

  • @catclash8212
    @catclash8212 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I’ve been feeling really awful today - this is just what I need!!!!!

    • @TheBerrylicious95
      @TheBerrylicious95 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hope you'll feel better soon!! ♡ I also didn't feel that well today, but I hope spring will kick in soon and we will all feel a bit better ☀️🥰

  • @rachl6752
    @rachl6752 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just an thought on the podcast idea. You both love to reminisce, you could do like season 1 as 90’s then each episode could be like movies (marks fave), toys, music, days out, tv shows, outdoor games, holidays etc. you both grew up at similar ages but in different areas and do your comparisons and similarities. If it does well then season 2 moves on to 00s etc…. Just an idea

  • @polinaboyko3830
    @polinaboyko3830 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haven't been watching your videos for a while. Now I regret it❤️
    Such pleasant vibes from seeing you all❤️
    Now I am also waiting for my "Mark." I really hope to find such a friendship again in my life❤️❤️❤️because my bestie is far away😭

  • @Bec_h
    @Bec_h ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I absoLUTELY love yours and Mark’s friendship, I’ve been watching it bloom since 2016 and I am so happy that nothing’s changed between you two since 2015 ❤

  • @erinstclair4897
    @erinstclair4897 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly I love Zoe and Mark videos, i belly laugh every time, I feel like I’m in a little circle with them both just listening to them chatting, you always feel so involved 🥹🤍🤍

  • @Miaplays
    @Miaplays ปีที่แล้ว

    Mark and Zoey Car Talks! I looooove it when you guys talk and sing and laugh in the car I'm always there on the dashboard with you :))

  • @sopp92003
    @sopp92003 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such a pure relationship, thank you for sharing

  • @Lovetodancex12
    @Lovetodancex12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PODCAST IDEA🥰🥰
    “ZOE AND MARK THE AGONY AUNTS”
    You’re both very good at giving advice and different perspectives so think this could be amazing! Xxx

  • @JulieVandenKerchove
    @JulieVandenKerchove ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the light and laughter you bring - the world is a better place with the two of you in it :) I know you opening up about mental health will help so many. Big hug from Belgium xo Julie

  • @gracebaker15
    @gracebaker15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this friendship! Could listen to you guys all day

  • @Brunetteraps00
    @Brunetteraps00 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was a preschool teacher for 3 years and I can confirm that even a year being away from it all, the songs don’t leave your head 😂

  • @laurawilliamss
    @laurawilliamss ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG I would LOVE a Mark and Zoe podcast!! Such a great idea

  • @kirstbecca
    @kirstbecca ปีที่แล้ว +4

    NEEDED THIS Zoe and Mark Chat!!♥️

  • @F1Samantha
    @F1Samantha ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Zoe I've watched your videos since 2014, and they have helped me through some tough times. Just wanted to say, thankyou so much 🙏

  • @s_webs
    @s_webs ปีที่แล้ว

    Your friendship makes me think about mine with 2 closest friends. One of which I think we connected from the moment we met, which also happened to be in an interview of mine (as met through work) but have grown deeper since both leaving that workplace (and ironically both happen to be working at another now!).

  • @kelalife
    @kelalife ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I had a friend 😕 so beautiful to have someone you can be yourself with and trust.

  • @Ambers_Team
    @Ambers_Team ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes!!! One step closer to convincing everyone we need a podcast ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @juna.laguna
    @juna.laguna ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mark!! Listen to Talk it Up by Sammy Rae and The Friends!! Such a jam and makes me feel like I’m performing on the biggest stage

  • @mahreenshahid6950
    @mahreenshahid6950 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm pausing the moment to type this. But I loved the anxiety talk so much. Because hardly 10 minutes before I started watching the video I had a big attack. And it's like 4 am in the morning. And I knew I had to switch my perspective so I went to TH-cam because I knew Zoe uploaded and then I sat down and now listening to this. And knowing I was just anxious and the moment has passed. I'm so grateful, to Zoe and mark for putting it this way. Thanks.
    Also I planned on watching the vid the next day because it was late when I got the notification.
    Thanks for reading. Loves and hugs

  • @Paigerocks961
    @Paigerocks961 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really would love to see a podcast similar to chins and giggles but when you and mark! That podcast is one of my favorites cause I love hearing others stories and experiences! Also, pleaseeeee more of the secrets out 🥹🥹 love you!!!

  • @sophiaM682
    @sophiaM682 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love you both for your honesty and positivity when you are together

  • @charlieo621
    @charlieo621 ปีที่แล้ว

    A podcast where you talk to “successful” people about how nobody has it together 100% of the time could be really interesting!